DITW 15-14: A Thousand Voices and an Effigy
Added 2024-09-20 19:35:13 +0000 UTCHe stayed overnight. Then he stayed every night for a week.
On the first Sunday, he’d gone back to his apartment and packed a few things, telling Meyer he didn’t know what he was going to do yet, but he was in love with his baby and he had a lot of lost time to make up for. Meyer’d said and what about Kimmy, and he’d took a deep breath and held it. He didn’t know. He said, “I want to be in that house with my daughter.” If living with his daughter meant living with Kimmy, that’s what he would do. So despite only packing a single bag for the next week, it was kind of unsaid between him and his patient cousin that their roommate love affair would now end. No more late-night movie binges, no more video games to the dawn’s early light, no more cracking beers and shooting the shit. Meyer would be all alone again. It was too bad things hadn’t worked out with that girl Quinn. Josh had really liked her.
Josh bid Meyer farewell, and although they both knew they’d see each other all the time, the last six months with Meyer had preserved Josh’s sanity, and he hoped he’d been good company for Meyer.
He stayed with Kimmy in Kimmy’s house, bought for them. His house. He stayed in Kimmy’s bedroom. His bedroom. They went to work, and they came home and they had dinner with Hyun and Sophie and Colleen. They watched TV together. All of them. Having the larger group in his house made the transition of living with Kimmy once again a little easier. There hadn’t been much pressure on having things to say or working things out anymore. There were chores and there was a baby, and there was always something to do. Then they went to bed together and went to sleep.
They weren’t intimate during the week, though he’d considered it twice.
That changed on Friday.
#
On Friday, Josh went home early from work. The first week back at Swanson had been a wild success. He’d come back home to the gang at Swanson and found them exactly where a guy like himself would want them: missing Josh Waters and needing his return, and the return of his expertise. At lunch on Monday, Harmeet ordered pizza for a lunchtime party, welcoming his return. And the best part of his return was how it felt right. He returned to Swanson healed. It would take some time to figure out how it happened. One thing was for sure, coming home from work every day to a beautiful home in Unionville, and his wife and his incredible baby certainly aligned all the facets of his broken psyche. Nothing about it felt wrong.
Since he’d come home early, it meant he could care for Colleen and Hyun could spend time with Sophie before she delivered her to Meyer for the week. And Hyun had an evening class tonight. Josh had thought about it a lot. Last night trying to sleep and today at work. Tonight would be the first time he and Kimmy had an evening together. Just the three of them.
Hyun took Sophie out for dinner and would head to class after she dropped Sophie at Meyer’s, so Josh said his goodbyes to Sophie and told her to say hi to his dad. Hyun and Sophie left.
Now it was him and his baby.
He fed Colleen in the kitchen, still wearing his suit pants, the jacket and tie off. Putting her on a high chair like his dad had done with him. Breast milk was in the fridge, and he warmed the bottle in a saucepan, bringing it to body heat temperature. After she was fed, he walked around the main floor with his daughter, looking out all the windows with her, telling her how leaves changed color and they fell from the trees but that they would return the next spring, better than ever. Then it was upstairs for a nappy exchange, getting her into clean diapers, and taking her to the crib so he could get in the shower and clean himself up.
In the shower, his mind wandered to the evening ahead. It was him and it was his wife and it was their baby. A real family. It was exciting.
And another thing: they would have sex tonight. He and Kimmy would re-engage in the intimate arts. He could feel it in his bones. One bone in particular, already responding, preparing for the duties ahead.
Only thing was, the more he thought of being with Kimmy, the more frightened he became. Not scared of the Kimmy of old, but scared to reunite with the Kimmy of before. The mild-mannered one. The kind one. The one he married. That Kimmy made him feel uncomfortable now. He wouldn’t know how to act with that one. The Kimmy who’d set him on fire last year and burned him to a crisp...? Now that one excited him. He knew how to behave with that one. That Kimmy took the lead and told him to do what she wanted. Lied to him when they both deep down knew she was lying. That was the Kimmy he wanted to have sex with.
But that was something he knew to keep to himself.
#
Out of the shower, he found Colleen awake and babbling, and he went to her, lifted her and took her downstairs, brought her to the room with the window to the garden. She played for a while, taking things he handed to her and studied them or tossed them aside for some new object for perusal. He could get her to giggle by making the right face. And sometimes when she wouldn’t giggle at a face he made, he could get her to giggle with a tickle. It was cheating, but he liked the sound of her giggle. When he exhausted her, she fell asleep sitting up, then teetered to the side, like a sawn tree. He called out Timber and held her before she toppled. Then he took her to the side room with the main floor crib and set her in for a nap. It was past four, and Kimmy would be home in an hour or two. He could nap as well, sit down in the chair where Kimmy would feed Colleen, and drift off. In his own home. With his baby at his side.
But sleep never came. He dwelled on thoughts of reignited intimacy. It worried him now that the time was closing in. The TV watching would be easy. Making and eating dinner, also easy. But intimacy?
The idea unnerved him. The discomfort intimidated him.
When she’d tried to engage him, seduce him practically, in the garage apartment, he’d almost crawled out of his skin. Was it that Kimmy showed weakness? A weak Kimmy didn’t interest him. Not when he knew it was all an act. Maybe that was it. Dishonesty in intimacy.
Then, before he contemplated it, he was checking to make sure Colleen still napped, then sneaking back upstairs to the master bedroom. He slowed, hesitated, as the truth of his sudden quest dawned on him. But why deny it?
His finger tried along the edge of Kimmy’s dresser, going to the top drawer on the left. The one where she stored her underwear. Her panties.
Sexy things? Lacy stuff? He opened the drawer to find a disappointing array of underwear that looked to be based on comfort over sex appeal. All of Kimmy’s underthings were folded in small, tight rectangles, stuffed in neat piles along the Y-axis so she could index through them and find what she was looking for.
And what are you looking for?
A pair of green satin things. Panties she’d worn to a tryst with one well-hung sexual dynamo named Devlin Stone.
His riffling fingers found no trace of the panties he sought. He pulled the drawer out further. Still no sign of his prize.
And that had to be for the best. Wasn’t it?
There was a box at the back of the drawer and he was pretty sure he’d hit pay dirt. This box would contain her more impressive undergarments. But as he wriggled it out of its nest at the back of the drawer, he could tell it didn’t contain underwear. Too heavy. And by the sound of it, the box contained only one thing sliding around inside. The box was long, like a box sent with flowers. Maybe Keith Stone secretly sent her flowers. Maybe she liked them and kept them preserved as a memento in the back of her underwear drawer.
But again: the box was too heavy.
He placed the box on the dresser’s top and lifted its lid. The item inside shortened his breath. He gasped, horrified. Revulsed.
Inside the box lay dormant an enormous rubbery dildo; flesh colored, molded sack. It had to be ten inches long. A thick, veiny monster that resembled the thing that Devlin had. The thing Kimmy loved. He shoved the box away to the far side of the dresser, then with gritted teeth and angry movements, he covered the disgusting phallic effigy and shoved it in the drawer where he found it.
#
The discovery aroused him. As much as he hated it, sitting by himself in the window room with his arms crossed and muttering to himself, the arousal was real. Now tonight couldn’t get started fast enough. But with heightened arousal came heightened wariness.
Yes, he was aroused—but now had convinced himself Kimmy had left the grotesque dildo there for him to find in order to spark his arousal. When he was aroused, Kimmy was in charge and he couldn’t lift a finger to stop her. And that was his own doing.
There was one piece of his jumbled puzzle to set back in place. A thing he always shooed away or wandered around. There was no denying how it still turned him on. Not the betrayal. No way, not that. The things she did to hide her betrayal. Those fun times he thought there was a game going on, and Josh and Kimmy Waters were the only players. Those times where the things Kimmy told him were tabulations meant for a shared thrill. A husband and a wife figuring out what made each other’s darker parts tick. A thick, veiny cock about a foot long; a cock that would touch a hidden trigger, a place only whispered of in hushed tones among the mere mortals. Most of them not even believing such a place existed. But, oh yes, it existed. It did, at least, within his wife. It existed inside Kimmy. And she needed the thing in the drawer to get that scratch itched. But did she think of Devlin when she used it to make herself come? This last year, when they were apart, why would she masturbate with a huge dildo thinking of her husband? No, she would think of the man who gave her the real thing. Then maybe later, when her heart rate came back down to normal and she wished she had more help with the baby, then she would think of Josh. Her husband.
He heard her car arrive in their driveway.
Comments
Kimmy made a Faustian pact with diabolic bourgeois egocentric conspicuous wealth and merciless exploitation... you could say she sold her soul to it... She may be trying to wiggle her way out of the small print now, but the same pernicious things that caused her to betray her own principals have left her hoist by her own petard. The price she may be paying for her trespasses and transgressions for the rest of her life are not going to dissolve like a dew... her pathetic attempts at confession and mitigation are not mitigating circumstances with Josh, who is far from impotent and gullible. He may be seduced by his innocent daughter who he naively regales with parables of renewal after the Fall with autumnal leaves returning more verdant than ever, but he has developed some immunity to Kimmy's cynicism and calculating corruption. As for Devlin if there is any truth to his fall into dark disgrace the only satisfaction that grants is that of a lawyer lying full fathoms five on the ocean bed... the inspiration of it being a good start. The title of the book has brought us full circle to Virgil's debasement bargain inspiration for Dante's Christian Hell where the monstrous Daddy Devil reigns lugubriously supreme... tenebrous "Avernus" from which the stench of Hell rises to pollute the Earth. Hardly the home of unalloyed happy endings. I hope the plausibility of Kimmy (and those who innocently stand by her) receiving her just deserts are a fitting compensation and consolation for those who need it. I've still got my fingers crossed for a denouement which matches my own experience of 'reality', whatever that might be... and the art for the sake of which it mysteriously exists. I see you're still a dab hand at keeping up the good work, KT. Nil carborundum.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-26 02:58:27 +0000 UTCI’m twisted up, too. This whole book has been twisted, exciting and gut wrenching. I’ve never read something so well written, that makes me feel so many things. The stuff Kimmy did to “win” Josh back, ultimately benefited her, as well. It’s like, yes she went through her own hell (deservedly), but it seems like it was an easy path for her. She said that winning back Josh would mean that she would have everything. Shouldn’t that mean she needs to really work to get that last prize? It’s true that they love each other, and need each other to an unhealthy degree, but did it have to be this easy to get Josh back? And Josh seems accepting that things are back to normal. “He returned to Swanson healed. It would take some time to figure out how it happened.” It hasn’t been that much time, because a week or so before he was downing benzos, shaving his beard and being a nervous wreck. Could it be that Colleen’s new presence in his life gave him peace? I don’t know what it’s like for men, but for me when I had my son, I did not have that experience. It wasn’t peaceful, I was happy, but also nervous and anxious. The first week with a baby was pretty difficult. Granted Colleen isn’t a newborn, but she is still new to Josh. Maybe she’s given him a greater purpose, and he’s stepped up and wants to be a productive person again? Some people can spring into parenthood like that, but it seems like an awful lot being thrown at him in such a short time span. I still have so many questions about the past year and Kimmy, and Hyun. I wonder if KT has any “outtakes” from the last year she can share after the book is finished?
Kat
2024-09-25 15:45:09 +0000 UTCNo, you're right, Kat. Or at least we share the same POV. It feels like the "Wheel of Endings" was spun and it landed on "Kimmy gets everything she wants with minimal effort and virtually no consequences and Josh gets the scraps" ending. Given just how many books Josh suffered through, I had hoped for something more upbeat, better for him. Even with Geoff and Nia, Geoff basically threw away a lot of good things he had going with his new relationship that he was working on, just so Nia could be made whole. Granted, the ending wasn't nearly as clear on how things turned out as this, but maybe that's part of the frustration. Kimmy *does not* deserve this. She has earned *nothing*. She even backslid into being the same evil Kimmy with her lies about Stone and Josh was written (out of character imo) to give her a pass so that she could "look good" in stopping herself from doing what she never should have done to begin with if she was truly working for redemption. The house is for her to feel better because she can say it's for them, Josh having Colleen is so she can feel better about the cheating and questionable paternity, Hyun is clearly there for her, the apartment was so Kimmy could get what she wanted, she has an amazing job with zero consequences for her theft.... It just goes on and on. And this "can't get it up unless Kimmy is evil" storyline brought up here simply feeds into it. Instead of Kimmy spending months earning his trust, talking through their issues, learning to love each other again, instead we get a tailor made easy button where she fights for nothing and Josh "allows" her to go right back to being the bad person because he can't have sex with anyone (no Karina allowed, remember) but Kimmy, and not just Kimmy, but bad Kimmy. There's no loving reunion where the find each other and then ease into this, it's just straight to Kimmy gets what she wants. The ability to torture him again, but with his permission this time because he "needs" it so it's okay. That's how this path feels. And I hope I am wrong. I SO badly hope I'm getting twisted up over nothing. But the way the last book has gone, it doesn't feel that way. Hopefully when Josh sees Kimmy it firms his resolve to make this more than just about easy capitulation so Kimmy wins, but is about a happy medium where it's about exploration and love and finding what works rather than Josh being put in a box for the rest of his life.
L_S87
2024-09-25 11:10:33 +0000 UTCI agree with you, although I’m new to this genre, it always seems like the wife never has much to answer for. This book is different, though. Kimmy is a cheater. She did many things behind Josh’s back for herself. She only tried to get Josh to like it, so she could keep doing what she was doing because she liked it. She also found that she really liked when Josh was involved somehow. She even said to Josh that there were times she thought she could make something work with Devlin, but she would have needed Josh to suffer to make it work. It bothered me that Josh never said anything about that. In Cherry Blossoms, Nia and Geoff split up, and while she was with Rocco for a time, she wanted to be back with Geoff. We also saw her pine for Geoff and Odie while watching them on TV, feeling left out. Nia paid a price living in her one bedroom apartment in Downsview (Downsview, by the way, looks like the name, a dull, residential part of Toronto, very different from the vibrant neighbourhood she and Geoff used to live in), so in the end when she presented the paternity papers to Geoff, it felt right. They both seemed healed, as well. The Josh that showed up at Kimmy’s a week or so earlier (the time frame is fuzzy for me. Has he been there one week or going on two?) was hooked on benzos and a nervous wreck. What has Kimmy done to remedy any of this? Kimmy went from an apartment in Ajax, to a palatial sounding home in Unionville. I know this is an epilogue book, but after 14 other books there still seem to be too many important details missing. I’m not trying to be nit picky, but I still have questions.
Kat
2024-09-24 17:54:12 +0000 UTCWell said! Both Kat and LS.
Chris K
2024-09-23 23:12:35 +0000 UTCGreat summation, Kat. Like you, I want them together, but only if it makes sense and occurs in the right way. Granted the "right" way is my opinion of what's right, but that's probably been my biggest issue with how this last book was handled. It's not written as Josh being made whole through Kimmy finding redemption, it's the same cookie cutter, lack of consequences and the wife gets everything she wants that you see in most of these books. Is Kimmy doing some things better? Sure, but the whole lying about Stone Sr and how she's set this all up isnt for Josh at all. Hyun can say whatever she wants, but the apartment wasn't for Josh, it was for Kimmy. So she could get what she wanted. Lying and seducing Josh was for her, not him. Letting Stone believe Colleen is Devlin's is for Kimmy, clearly not Josh. It doesn't feel like they're healing towards a healthy relationship, it just feels like some boxes being checked so Kimmy can win and get what she wants. There's no happiness for Josh in finding that dildo, there's only more questions and pain. Josh being pigeon holed into not being able to get it up for anyone but evil Kimmy doesn't make life good for Josh, it only makes life good for Kimmy because she's "right" and suffers no lasting consequences for her betrayal. And she doesn't even have to earn his trust back to get what she wants. It's given to her on a silver platter. I reread a good portion of the series too, and while I still want them to be together, I have to ask... If this woman can be this evil and awful and selfish with so many of her decisions, and literally get out of it with barely a slap on the wrist, what would it actually take for there to be a book or series where the consequences are permanent? Or at least where redemption requires true effort over an extended period of time. Trust is earned, not given. Yet that's what's happening here. Kimmy isn't earning anything, it's just being given to her. And I find that incredibly wrong.
L_S87
2024-09-23 22:29:30 +0000 UTCWhile we’re waiting for the grand finale, I’ve been re-reading DITW from the beginning. Something has been bothering me for a while. Kimmy, although, I’m rooting for her now, really did a lot of rotten things to her husband. Whether he liked them or not (he didn’t and still doesn’t know the whole truth), she was terrible to him, all while claiming she couldn’t live without him. I don’t see a lot of guilt there in her words to Josh, or in her thoughts to us. I was impressed that she told her dad and sister that she cheated on Josh, but in some ways it still seems like she got handed a life raft which helped her bypass any real penitence. Josh, on the other hand, has been chastised by Hyun, played with by Kimmy, and suffered more than he should have had to. I agree that Josh sometimes causes his own pain. He’s a terrible communicator with low self esteem, but Kimmy walked out on Josh. She left him. I don’t think this has been stressed enough. So, Josh didn’t see Colleen for 6 months (or so). Kimmy cut off contact with him before she gave birth (radio silence). Yes, she emailed him pictures, but never the proof that would have made him show up. She caused him another 6 months of unnecessary pain, and deprived her baby of bonding time with her father. Josh thought that the baby was Devlin’s. Kimmy never tried to prove the paternity to him. She said that she was waiting for him to come see her. Then he thought that Kimmy was sleeping with Stone Sr. Kimmy knew this information via Meyer, and she did nothing to correct it. Instead she pretended to be in a relationship with him. Maybe it’s just me, and how I’m made up, but I’m a stubborn bitch when I want to be, and I wouldn’t have given in either. You hurt me, and you have to come to me with your apology. Kimmy caused all of this, and Josh was still willing to talk to her, but she left him. Shouldn’t she have made a greater effort to reunite with Josh, if that’s what she truly wanted? And what’s going on with Hyun? Hyun is living there with them, like an indentured servant, while they share Kimmy’s bed. Was there an ongoing sexual relationship between her and Kimmy? Did Kimmy just drop her when Josh came back? I want them together, obviously, and this Devlin replica may be something that prevents that. Kimmy’s past year is still shrouded in mystery. She needs to tell the whole story to Josh, or at least to us.
Kat
2024-09-23 20:17:38 +0000 UTCI think it’s rushed because we’re nearing the end and don’t have many chapters left. I don’t mind more chapters, but that’s just me. I love this story, but I understand that many want to see KT move on.
Kat
2024-09-23 13:43:37 +0000 UTCI like the idea of Josh asking where the panties are, and Kimmy telling him that the last time she saw them Devlin was wearing them. 🤭 I’m actually more interested in how the Hyun thing gets settled. Does Hyun know that Kimmy still possesses the Devlin replica?
Kat
2024-09-23 13:40:14 +0000 UTCI kind of feel like that needs to be a later thing. Given how truncated the time table has become and how forced this is, it's definitely a possibility, but I think they would have to be on more even footing for anything involving Devlin to come out without there being serious backsliding and recriminations over Kimmys choices. With maybe the one caveat being the Devlin in panties video. I *could* see a scenario where Josh brings up the dildo, asks her why she has to have that and why he's not good enough, them having an honest conversation about both of their needs and the darkness within them, and then Josh having the bravery because that went so well to ask about the panties and Kimmy telling him she no longer has them because the last time she saw them Devlin was wearing them. I could definitely see that as a possibility. Could be a humourous one too.
L_S87
2024-09-23 11:34:14 +0000 UTCThat's why I say it feels hamfisted, Kat. This is the place that I think they were always meant to be, but I don't think they get there because Josh is forcefully written into a box where he can only get it up if Kimmy is awful. It makes much more sense to me, due to the massive betrayal that Josh is still struggling with, that he would take things slowly and want to learn to love and trust Kimmy again over months, and learn to love having sex with her again, THEN broach this need, rather than take what feels like a weak and easy approach of just saying "well, Josh is broken, Kimmy gets away with everything, no consequences". Because that's how this comes across. Especially after the conversations they had only a chapter ago about how Josh viewed her. For me, making this so forced and quick basically destroys the impact of those conversations and how important they are.
L_S87
2024-09-23 10:58:10 +0000 UTCI thought about that, too, that Kimmy wouldn’t want to show him anything that puts her in a bad light, or showing reverence to his bully. But, the part where he’s in Kimmy’s underpants, might be something she’d show him, provided they’d both been suitably warmed up for it. She could tell him she kept the videos for blackmail. I hope Josh doesn’t tell her what he found in her drawer, but surprise her with it later on. Their relationship has a better chance at working out if they’re both honest with each other, but neither of them has the ability to be honest on purpose, or at first try. They need circumstances to work out so they can be vulnerable with each other.
Kat
2024-09-22 20:45:02 +0000 UTCDefinitely possible, though I really don’t know if he’d react well to those, especially the ones with Devlin taunting him. Even if he knows Colleen is his, I still doubt he’d want to see Devlin in a moment where he thought the truth was different. I also suspect Kimmy probably won’t feel comfortable sharing those yet either…but I guess we’ll see coming up.
JL23
2024-09-21 22:23:26 +0000 UTCNice wrinkle between the sheets...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 21:48:59 +0000 UTCI’m wondering if the reemergence of Josh’s kink will create an opportunity for Kimmy to share her videos of Devlin with him? If she still has the Devlin replica, you know she has the videos of him, especially the one with him wearing her panties.
Kat
2024-09-21 19:35:54 +0000 UTCJosh did not actually say the Devlin's name out loud... Yet 'we' heard it loudly and clearly enough! And... "He heard her car arrive in 'their' driveway."... comes off as anodyne... oddly enough!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 14:33:49 +0000 UTCStill waiting for the return of Devlin. It is hard to believe that KT would let all this end without the Biggus Dickus making a final curtain call. Maybe, Kimmy will make him wear a condom this time. Also, how can the Cambodia trip be brushed by so easily? That would certainly have been an opportunity to meet up with Devlin. There are still enough loose ends or discordant events that having Josh, Hyun, and Kimmy singing "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" while up on the cross on Calvary Hill does not seem entirely feasible just yet.
Donkatsu
2024-09-21 13:46:13 +0000 UTCJosh did not enjoy the lying Kimmy used to deceive him, but ironically he enjoyed the fantasy she used to hide the truth behind. Precisely because it shielded him, as well as temporarily allowing his wife to continue getting the big brain melting dick she desperately craved. On the other hand it enabled Kimmy to assuage her conscience, because it is partially true that in questions of emotion what you don't know doesn't hurt you immediately... and, figuratively only, ignorance is bliss! It is worth noting that what Josh had most difficulty dealing with was other people knowing his wife cuckolded him... " Reputation, reputation! O what a thing is reputation!" Although another most difficult thing for him was his bully pleasuring Kimmy in his presence... so it's swings and roundabouts...Some games are co-operative, some are competitive, some are an admixture, some are quicksand...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 12:53:54 +0000 UTC"When he exhausted her, she fell asleep sitting up, then teetered to the side, like a sawn tree." Ad hoc realism... escueto, succinct, pithy! Mundane beauty! The polar opposite of Hector's horsehair crest frightening his son, Astyanax, as he bids his wife, Andromache, what will be a final farewell! Colleen no more than 'a girl', Astyanax named 'lord of the city' in honour of his renowned father!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 08:43:17 +0000 UTCDoes it take Ole Nick Scratch to scratch Kimmy's itch? Or is she Josh's Nicole Scratch?
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 08:27:56 +0000 UTC"And she needed the thing in the drawer to get that scratch itched. But did she think of Devlin when she used it to make herself come? This last year, when they were apart, why would she masturbate with a huge dildo thinking of her husband? No, she would think of the man who gave her the real thing. Then maybe later, when her heart rate came back down to normal and she wished she had more help with the baby, then she would think of Josh. Her husband." Further proof that the Waters' are well matched... but also in the limitations they are both heir to... Of which ignorance is not the least! Irony, ey! The omniscient narrator gives birth to the omniscient reader! Thanks for the divine intervention, KT!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 07:47:14 +0000 UTC"The things she did to hide her betrayal. Those fun times he thought there was a game going on, and Josh and Kimmy Waters were the only players." Proof, if proof were needed, that Josh is Kimmy's match...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 07:36:11 +0000 UTC"When he was aroused, Kimmy was in charge and he couldn’t lift a finger to stop her. AND THAT WAS 'HIS OWN DOING'!"
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 07:29:32 +0000 UTCAs far as I understand the text Josh has 'chosen' not to have sex with Kimmy... and not to be 'intimate' with Kimmy in its non-euphemistic sense. The lack of dialogue, or the connectivity of direct speech intensifies that impression. KT knows what she is doing, as what we have received amply demonstrates! She certainly knows how to get people's imaginations running away with them!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 07:25:00 +0000 UTCAny lack of respect she may have for Josh has Kimmy's self-serving mendacity as a root cause! All we know is Kimmy wanted...needed Josh back... why think that the judgement of a Solomon is called for?
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 07:11:14 +0000 UTC"Inside the box lay dormant an enormous rubbery dildo; flesh colored, molded sack. It had to be ten inches long. A thick, veiny monster that resembled the thing that Devlin had. The thing Kimmy loved." A fetish enshrined like Leviathan in the Dark Deep of the primordial Waters? Or just a tool?
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 06:43:59 +0000 UTC"But that was something he knew to keep to himself." Needs must, even when the Devil is evidently not in the driving seat...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 06:24:12 +0000 UTCThough a trophy like the one Josh, the quiet shade, found should probably be kept in the 50's Bat Cave amongst the giant props there (between a full scale T-Rex and an outrageously large yankee penny)... rather than vying with the bulbous transparent end of bottled Kandor. After all the preceding drama, the solitude not loneliness that is domestic routine is all the more jarring...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 06:10:27 +0000 UTCJust two questions "A Thousand Voices and an Effigy" and "The Quiet Shade of Verdant Groves" ?
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 05:50:17 +0000 UTCJosh in his fortress of solitude... a cautious gentle autopsy denied... No grasping at scalpels for me...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-09-21 05:36:26 +0000 UTCMaybe I'm the only one, but I have a different perspective: 1. The fact that Josh can't get it up for 'Good' Kimmy makes a lot of sense to me. We spent several books digging into how deeply his fetishes consumed and drove Josh and his sexuality. It makes a lot of sense to me that nothing less will now get him up. It's the saturation effect, dulling one's senses. The alcoholic no longer gets tipsy on 2 drinks, the drug addict needs more and more to feel the same high, and the fetishist has gone far beyond being aroused by a nice set of legs, or a shapely bosom. It makes sense to me that Josh now needs an intense stimulus (his fetish) to perform. In fact, the last time they did have sex, I was honestly shocked that he "could" perform without his kink. 2. I also don't think we can ever generalize about how the male (or female) sex drive works. "Josh is a man" therefore X or Y, doesn't mean anything conclusively to me. For example, just because he's gone without sex for a long time doesn't mean that any chance at sex will get his dick hard. I think arousal for both men and women starts in the brain (and maybe somewhat stays there). Josh gets hard 'thinking' about how Kimmy loves big dicks, how she's bad, and how Devlin (or other potential lovers for Kimmy) are somehow "better" than him. He may have realized that he can't handle that in his real life, but that won't change how he's sexually wired, IMHO. That's too deep-seated. In my own life, I can recall two women I dated who couldn't get wet at all (or orgasm) without their kink being entertained. One woman needed to be spanked and verbally degraded. The other needed to be belted intensely. With the latter, as it turned out, I was too gentle for her, and although I know she liked me and we hit it off fabulously, she refused to date me further for that very reason.
Pete
2024-09-21 01:12:04 +0000 UTCI agree, Hyun must be miserable knowing that Kimmy is with Josh behind closed doors. I don’t see how this ends happily for both of them. I don’t see Josh being okay with sharing Kimmy with Hyun. And we still don’t have enough information on their relationship. Were Kimmy and Hyun a couple this past year, or just good friends?
Kat
2024-09-21 00:19:28 +0000 UTCI agree with you, LS. Josh was scared of lying Kimmy. Lying Kimmy kept him away for a year. Lying Kimmy forced him off a long dock into freezing cold water, where he almost met his death. Lying Kimmy caused him so much anxiety. Lying Kimmy hurt him deeply. Dominant Kimmy is what turns him on. Kimmy who is in control of him and her own sexuality, that’s who he wants, what turns him on. He wants that for them. He wants to be submissive to her in the privacy of their bedroom. But lying, backstabbing Kimmy is not something I think Josh would be able to deal with again. I agree, too, that it seems too soon for Josh to want this kind of thing again. He’s only been back with her a week.
Kat
2024-09-21 00:16:54 +0000 UTCAfter pondering on this some more, I think I figured out what's bothering me so much about this chapter. It's the paragraph where Josh says he likes lying Kimmy. That's patently untrue. If he hates betraying Kimmy, which he says he does, then it's a complete and utter contradiction to say he likes lying Kimmy. Kimmy only lied because she betrayed. With no betrayal, there is no lying. So he's either saying he doesn't like lying Kimmy (and him saying he does is poorly phrased) or he does like lying Kimmy which means he also likes betraying Kimmy. Which we know he doesn't because he spent a year having panic attacks and addicted to meds because of her betrayal. (As an aside, that's another plot hole needing fixing, where has Josh's addiction and panic attacks gone during the past week?) Josh doesn't actually like lying Kimmy. He likes, and is turned on by, the exact opposite. Truthful Kimmy. Kimmy who is a seductress and devilish. Who is truthful about her darkness and her wanton desires. Truthful about wanting a big dick to fill her up because Josh isn't good enough when it comes to that department. Truthful about loving manipulating and twisting him up. Beguiling him. All because it revs her motor sexually. He wants *that* Kimmy. Because that Kimmy can also turn that off once they're no longer in bed and still be nurturing and loving Kimmy who supports and takes care of his heart and his health. That Kimmy has been missing for the past year and he needs her too. That's not something lying and betraying Kimmy can provide. So he doesn't like or want that version of her. That's part of why I find it odd that he's just sitting on the couch accepting Hyun while knowing she and Kimmy have *something* going on. It's weird that he would know Kimmy was supporting Hyun and not him for months, know how Hyun feels, and yet suddenly act blind to it. Hopefully the next couple of chapters straighten this out, because while this one issue has me twisted, I *like* where this is going because it was where I think they should have always ended up. They just both need to be more truthful with each other. Love their darkness and their light. Love their truth, not the lies.
L_S87
2024-09-20 23:29:51 +0000 UTCI don't think you're wrong, I just hate the thought of them being rivals because that kinda only ends one way, and I don't want that for any of them. So much pain, hate and heartache. I'd like to see all of them end up happy in some way, alright to your point, unless something changes that's very unlikely for Hyun. Him sleeping in the same bed as Kimmy can't be beneficial to Hyun's temperament.
L_S87
2024-09-20 23:16:45 +0000 UTCIt's simple LS. KT wants this done. It's all sunshine and rainbows from here on out. Josh accepts all of Kimmys wrongs, the Hyun relationship is no big deal, one big happy family. It's all tied up in a way that doesn't make a whole lot of sense from the rest of the series. But, it needs to end in the happiest way possible...
Chris K
2024-09-20 22:35:41 +0000 UTCIt would certainly be interesting. Lol I just think Hyun probably wishes Josh would go away. She had a good thing going there with Kimmy before Josh came back. Who knows? Hyun and Kimmy may be purely platonic now. I’m dying to know how it plays out.
Kat
2024-09-20 22:10:43 +0000 UTCMaybe Hyun walks in on them? Could you imagine her horror? Something’s going to happen with Sophie gone all weekend, and if Josh and Kimmy reunite sexually, Hyun’s going feel like a third wheel. Maybe her resentment comes out then? I don’t see Hyun as someone who likes confrontation, but then again, she was pretty direct with Josh a few chapters ago. Hyun is quiet, and seems meek, but I don’t think she is at all. In re-reading the books, I’ve come to appreciate her a bit more. She’s biased, of course, because she loves Kimmy, but without her where would Kimmy be right now? She’s seems to have helped her pick up the pieces of her life. I also think there’s a good chance that Kimmy has told her everything that happened with Josh, not just the version she made up in Book 11. If Kimmy was honest with her dad and sister, chances are that she was also honest with Hyun. Hyun is in love with Kimmy, and told her that she would stay by her side no matter what. Her sort of disdain for Josh probably comes from her loyalty to Kimmy, like if Josh really loved Kimmy he’d accept her the way she is, and forgive her for everything she’s done no matter what. One way or another Josh is a rival to her now.
Kat
2024-09-20 22:07:21 +0000 UTCWell, from one standpoint I get it. He hasn't had sex in a year. He's dying for some action. I just feel like if that's the case, then it wouldn't really matter what Kimmy showed up. Josh is a guy. Being being without this long? Yeah, he isn't going to give a damn how Kimmy approaches him. He just wants to get laid, passive Kimmy or not. Now afterward ... Yep, I can see that conversation happening. Like I can also see why he'd be starving enough for sex to want it with her this quickly. But the rest of it feels a bit off. Not trying to be mean to KT. I love her writing, and the emotions here are awesome. I just feel like the cart is going before the horse on some of this.
L_S87
2024-09-20 21:26:11 +0000 UTCI hope so, Kat. Her post for the other book seemed to indicate she intended for there to be more conversations between them. Maybe even the 3 of them? Given some of the revelations, I feel it's necessary. I think it would have made sense to occur before Kimmy and Josh had sex, given the nature of what was revealed and discussed, so the only thing I can come up with is it's intended to be wrapped up in however this night goes between Josh and Kimmy.
L_S87
2024-09-20 21:16:37 +0000 UTCI don't disagree with you, Kat, about Hyun not seemingly being interested in Josh, then again, it's not something that's ever come up, so we don't really know. I was just pondering because it would be an interesting way to wrap things up. It would make me sad if Hyun was left on the outside not being able to have Kimmy anymore, yet the flip side is them continuing to have sex behind Josh's back, which would never be sustainable. He'd find out eventually and it would grenade everything. Likewise, I don't think he'd ever go for letting Kimmy have sex with Hyun on the side. The betrayal is too fresh and since he knows Hyun loves Kimmy, he'd be perennially worried about another betrayal. Not quite sure how this gets remedied. I mean other than the obvious that Hyun eventually moved out and has to move on.
L_S87
2024-09-20 21:07:47 +0000 UTCI agree on the trust thing. He can’t possibly trust her, I mean, he’s going through her stuff! I like your idea, though, of Josh just being straight with Kimmy about everything and what he wants, but this is Josh and that kind of stuff is not easy for him. I still can’t get past the breakdown, the almost dying, the benzos and being out of work for 8 months, to this suddenly wanting to dive back into his kink with a woman he doesn’t really trust yet. But, I’m looking forward to seeing how this all plays out. I was having withdrawals from no updates. lol 😂
Kat
2024-09-20 21:03:38 +0000 UTCI agree on how soon this is happening. That's why I say it feels a bit forced. He doesn't like weak and mild mannered Kimmy yet he just spent a week with her and enjoyed it?? I think it's more of a lost in translation thing. I think what Josh means to say is he wants old Kimmy who loves him and cares for his heart, that's why he pushed back in the apartment and that's why this week was so smooth, but when it comes to sex, he doesn't want vanilla Kimmy because he knows that's not her, not anymore. So it would feel like having sex with a charlatan if Kimmy were to be quiet and humble. Kimmy discovered she likes taking charge in bed and Josh discovered he likes that. He just doesn't want the lies and betrayal that went with it last time. If he was smart, he'd put the dildo on the bed and then say "We need to talk about that, about us and what I want." Then lay out what he needs from her for this to work. That said, I agree, given his level of pain and betrayal, this is realistically a conversation that should be happening months in the future, not now. He can't be honest with Kimmy without trust. Trust doesn't get built in one week. Especially not after finding the dildo.
L_S87
2024-09-20 20:58:09 +0000 UTCHyun didn’t like the replica, and thoughts of Kimmy with the real Devlin upset her. I’m a little surprised that Josh is going back to bad Kimmy so soon after reuniting. Bad Kimmy made him lose his mind, and almost his life. I would have thought he’d need a bit of time to want that again. I could see him wanting bad Kimmy in the privacy of their own room, as a game between them. That’s what he thought he was getting the first time around.
Kat
2024-09-20 20:47:15 +0000 UTCI just re-read the chapter. Hyun will be on her own this week. Sophie will be at Meyer’s. Maybe there will be some more revelations upcoming. I’m convinced that KT isn’t done with Hyun yet.
Kat
2024-09-20 20:44:13 +0000 UTCI know, the revelation at the end of the chapter had my head spinning. No cliffhangers for too long, please! I hope we get another chapter soon.
Kat
2024-09-20 20:37:59 +0000 UTCTo be honest, Josh not being able to have sex with "nice" Kimmy feels a bit forced to me. A bit of a ham fisted plot device to "force" Josh into having dark sex with Kimmy to push the ending away from something idyllic as playing house together. That's not to say Josh doesn't like that part of her, the series shows that he clearly does. But it feels a bit off to say that he can't get it up unless he's having sex with "The Betrayer" when he also clearly states he hates that betrayal. They're one in the same person. Hopefully part of their conversation and sexual episode includes Josh and Kimmy parsing those feelings so they both can come to the realization of what Josh needs. Because I think the real intention here is to point out that Josh loves bad Kimmy, he just wants her to show enough moderation to keep it as a game between them, not as an excuse to push boundaries that hurt Josh. As to Hyun... I'm not sure. If the strap on had been in there... Well the answer would have been obvious. But. Hyun could have that in her room. Plus, they used that dildo together multiple times, so I don't know that it's a clear indicator that Kimmy has moved on. Hopefully if Josh unloads his truth on Kimmy about what he likes, but also what he doesn't and where his lines are, then she'll open up too.
L_S87
2024-09-20 20:37:24 +0000 UTCLike what is going on with Hyun, right? It’s nagging at me. She mentioned something so private and shameful to Josh, but yet they’re all living there together, watching TV, etc. Kimmy may have chosen Josh, but I don’t think that would have been Hyun’s choice for her. As for a threesome thing, I don’t see Hyun going for this at all. She’s not attracted to Josh, there’s Meyer and Sophie to consider, and I don’t think she respects Josh all that much.
Kat
2024-09-20 20:36:44 +0000 UTCIt's interesting when you read a chapter that has zero conversation, so you're kind of seeing it as a downer to wait almost 3 weeks for *this* simple of a chapter only to realize near the end that it might be one of the biggest chapters of the series because Josh finally admits that in some ways, Kimmy was right with her declarations of what Josh likes. It was merely the betrayal and setting that soured him to it so badly. And maybe now, just maybe, he can admit enjoying certain parts of this, certain parts of her that are rather dark and awful, but only in a controlled setting. I will say it kind of bothers me that Hyun mentioned something so deeply humiliating and difficult for Josh that is at the core of the revelation in this chapter and yet it basically goes by completely unnoticed nor mentioned when Josh and Kimmy talk, or in this week of domestication where, given the subject, it would clearly be in his mind wondering what Hyun knows and what she thinks of him. The only thing I can grasp on to is that Josh means to confront Kimmy with it tonight while they're alone. Because it's definitely not something he would forgive or forget, Kimmy spilling such dark secrets. Feels like a big plot hole needing to be filled. It would be interesting if the outcome of this was one big family dynamic with a threesome between Kimmy, Hyun and Josh. And maybe Hyun could find a nice boyfriend so the dildo can get thrown out?
L_S87
2024-09-20 20:23:19 +0000 UTCIf I can take over for Bill a bit and point out a few typos/inconsistencies: 1) Josh says he tells Sophie to say hi to "his dad." Should be her or otherwise changed to "his cousin." 2) Seems like we are 6 days from that fateful Saturday. Josh told Kimmy he was going back to work on Wednesday in an earlier chapter, but here it seems like he went back on Monday. Small thing, but an inconsistency in the timeline.
JL23
2024-09-20 20:16:48 +0000 UTCI'm in the same place Kat. It feels kind of weird for Josh to acknowledge their closeness, to ask a question that clearly points to there being more between Hyun and Kimmy than just friends... Then suddenly for a week there's nothing there and he acts like he never said that and it doesn't exist. Kinda feels like that part is "conveniently" ignored for the bigger picture item, maybe to be brought up afterwards? After they get through the dark sex and exploration, which probably includes Josh finally admitting that this side of Kimmy turns him on... With limitations, then we might have him asking about Hyun.
L_S87
2024-09-20 20:15:21 +0000 UTCMaybe she'd be mad to start, but I think she'd actually find it exciting too, especially if Josh takes the lead (at first) and makes it clear he's giving her the green light to be "bad" again. Kimmy wants to play these fantasies out with Josh too, she's just terrified of how he'll respond. If they walk into it together, and he clearly shows her what he wants, and where the lines are, they could make it work. Of course with these two, it can certainly still all go pear shaped.
JL23
2024-09-20 20:13:20 +0000 UTCI don’t think Kimmy and Hyun have been “together” in the past year. I really think Josh’s near death, and Kimmy’s messed up life kept her from indulging with Hyun, hence the need for the Devlin replica. Kimmy might be angry when she finds out that Josh was snooping through her stuff, but she’ll definitely want to play with Josh and the replica. I really wish we got more about what’s been going on with Hyun living there with them. Is it awkward? Hyun can’t be happy.
Kat
2024-09-20 20:02:38 +0000 UTCIf Kimmy still has the Devlin replica, I doubt she’s been with Hyun in the past year. I’ve been re-reading the whole series while waiting for a new chapter. Kimmy changed after Josh’s near death. The Kimmy that walked out on him was different, stripped of her femme fatale persona. Sophie told Josh that she spent time in their apartment bedroom alone and crying. I wonder what’s going to happen now? Kimmy is going to be angry that Josh went through her stuff. And it’s interesting that Josh can’t have sex with “nice” Kimmy. He needs scary Kimmy for that.
Kat
2024-09-20 19:56:56 +0000 UTCA lot in that chapter, definitely worth the wait. First, sad it didn't work our with Meyer and Quinn. But kind of figured that considering she hadn't been mentioned in this book at all. As always, my conspiracy addled brain wonders if that was just a passing reference just so we could close the book on her, so to speak. Or would there be a reason we need to know Meyer is now single. Definitely enjoyed Josh playing out in his mind what drew him to the fantasies. He seems in a good place, and is actually coming to terms with what turns him on. And perhaps he can be in a place to relay that to Kimmy. I think it's a big acknowledgement in Josh's own mind that he is turned on by "bad" Kimmy. That he doesn't want to go back to the way things were before Devlin, at least as far as their sex life goes. Maybe Josh will put that big thing to use tonight, and they can finally play the game they both are driven wild by on equal footing for the first time. We still have the Hyun stuff of course, no mention of that, and no mention Josh might suspect something. He talks about being turned on by the idea Kimmy is hiding things...maybe he files all that away in his brain and never asks for the truth? Can't wait to see how Kimmy responds when we get to it.
JL23
2024-09-20 19:53:10 +0000 UTCIt's a page turner! 😉
Chris K
2024-09-20 19:52:47 +0000 UTCOmg, KT! So glad DITW is back (I’ve been dying here lol), but don’t leave us with a cliffhanger like this! Please! Lol
Kat
2024-09-20 19:38:55 +0000 UTC