DITW 15-15: Dim Suffusion Veiled
Added 2024-10-02 00:05:37 +0000 UTCShe arrived home on a Friday night, stomach knotted with dread. There was a chance for a good evening with Josh, but uncertainty gnawed away. Hyun was gone for the night, taking Sophie with her and dropping her off with her father. Then a night class. She and Josh would be alone tonight for the first time. Intimacy would occur.
Should occur.
And what if it didn’t?
Josh rejected her advances. Although they’d been subtle—perhaps Josh required stronger prompting.
Out of the car, crisp evening air nipping at her cheeks, she approached the front door and pushed it open. The house greeted her with warmth and welcome. So many times when she’d done the worst things with Devlin Stone, she’d told herself—and told Josh—that a family home like this was why she worked for Devlin. And that was where they ended up. Where she’d intended all along.
Josh sat in the main floor baby’s room, beside Colleen’s crib. Colleen slept peacefully, her tiny chest rising and falling with each breath. The sight of her husband and their baby, bathed in a soft autumn glow, sent a swell of contentment through her. She leaned on the doorframe, smiling. It had been a good week, having Josh back in her life, yet every moment felt like walking on eggshells. Josh was sensitive, brittle even, and she worried about handling him with the care he needed. She couldn’t bear the thought of breaking him again.
“Hey,” Josh said, voice quiet. “How was your day?”
“Tiring,” she told him. “But I’ve been looking forward to tonight all week.”
Hurt still lingered in Josh’s eyes. It was a familiar sight, one that both pained and determined her. She loved him, and she was willing to do anything to make this work again. It had been so good for so long.
“I’m going to go get out of these work clothes,” she said, pushing off the doorframe. “Put something more comfortable on.” With one last glance at Josh and Colleen, she turned and headed to the stairs. She stopped and called back, “Do you want to order in?”
Josh called back that he did. That encouraged her. This week had been wonderful, but with Hyun here, it wasn’t like the way her and Josh’s life had been like before Devlin Stone re-entered their lives.
Once in the bedroom, she slipped off her suit and hung it up, untied her hair, and removed her shirt and threw it in the laundry hamper. In the bathroom she brushed her teeth and rinsed with Scope, but was too exhausted for a shower. There was a chance nothing would happen between her and Josh tonight. She unhooked her bra, breasts tender and full, a reminder of the life that now depended on her. She’d pump before dinner.
Then she caught sight of herself in the mirror, a stark contrast to the woman she used to be. Stoop-shouldered, eyes heavy with fatigue, hair disheveled—a far cry from the polished, killer woman who would have been stepping out for a night of whiskey and laughter at the Royal York a little over a year ago. But that life, as thrilling as it had been, held no substance. This—the sore back, the aching head, the desperate need for a pumping session—this was real. She wouldn’t trade this for anything. A fresh swipe of deodorant, then she slipped into her silk robe. She tugged open her underwear drawer, looking for a fresh pair, and recognized right away that someone had been through her underthings. Someone looking for a green satin pair, she was sure.
Back in the bathroom, she slipped off the robe and the panties she wore all day and ran the hot water for a quick shower. Tonight would be the night Josh returned to her.
*
Josh was in the kitchen when Kimmy returned about a half an hour later. Obviously showered, wearing that long silk robe. She looked revived; she hadn’t seen so lively when she’d first come home, but now she moved with a renewed fluid grace, swishing into the kitchen and coming right to him. She touched his shoulder as she reached for the fridge, saying, “What did you order?”
He turned to regard her, now no longer touching his shoulder, pulling out a bottle of mineral water. He said, “I didn’t order anything. I don’t know any of the restaurants around here. I don’t know what you like. What’s good?”
Kimmy pulled down a glass from the cupboard and came to the island next to him, setting both items down on the counter with a heavy knock. She sighed and pondered. She said, “Do you want Chinese?”
“Sure,” he said. “Whatever’s good.” His eyes stayed on her, studying her. She hadn’t washed her hair, but she’d brushed it while it was damp. Though it was long and she still sported bangs, the hair at the sides of her head swept around her ears. She had a long, beautiful neck, and he loved her jawline. He reached out and touched it, running his thumb from the edge of her chin to just underneath her ear. Kimmy covered his hand with hers and regarded him. They stared at one another for a long moment without saying anything, and for the first time this week back with her, he felt a little like in those days between the miscarriage and the high school reunion where his wife had messed around with Devlin Stone. That wasn’t a perfect segment of time, but he’d loved her in it; the miscarriage had changed their relationship. It had made them—or at least him—wary of the other. For the first time, he’d felt unsure of their future. He’d forgotten about that because that feeling had become insignificant about eight weeks later when he’d begun suspecting something was going on behind his back.
Kimmy inched closer and closed her eyes, lowering them first and regarding his mouth. He kissed her and held her neck. When their kiss broke, she said, “Get me the phone. I know what to order.”
*
Kimmy ordered from a Chinese restaurant in Unionville. The menu was in Chinese and she spoke the order to the restaurant in Chinese. They ate dinner—amazing jelly fish and shredded turnip, and soy-stewed egg and salted duck—then cleaned up and watched TV. They brought Colleen out to the family room and Kimmy watched while he showed Colleen toys and played with her and got her on her feet by holding her hands.
And in that moment, with the sun gone from the sky, leaving just yellow trees against a sky like dark denim, there was sacred beauty. Kimmy sitting and watching him, looking incredible with her hair framed around her face, no makeup; a mother. A working mother. A woman that had done terrible things to him. But a woman that had done hard things to earn him back. And he deserved all of this. He deserved the home; he deserved his baby, and he deserved Kimmy. Kimmy was a product of his own machination. The things he had done made Kimmy who she was. He’d considered Kimmy quite a bit this afternoon, sitting here with their daughter and waiting for her to get home from work. He’d tried last year making her into something he desired. He tried, and she’d played along. But the whole time, the worst things she’d told him in fantasy were true. She’d done them behind his back. They’d played with some of the darkest fantasies he could imagine, and they’d been incredible. Kimmy made them real. And when they were shown to him as real, he’d rejected it. He’d even run away thinking he would never return. And if it weren’t for this baby daughter whose tiny little hands gripped both his index fingers, maybe he never would have come back. What was certain to him was how much the fantasy had played in his mind. How much power those fantasies had. And who was responsible? Josh Waters was. Josh Waters was his own worst enemy. Kimmy had said it many times, and it was true. Kimmy was evil and wicked, and she’d betrayed him—but he’d framed the playground they’d played in. He’d given Kimmy the ingredients, and she’d cooked the meal he’d asked for. The one she’d already been cooking.
He lifted Colleen now and held her. He said to Kimmy, “I’m going to stay. I’m going to stay here in the house with you.”
Kimmy nodded, slow and unemotional at first, then her eyes welled and she moved to the side table and snatched up a tissue to blot them.
He said, “I’d be crazy not to,” then looked down at Colleen, so in love with her. Yes, she had his mother’s eyes, but she had Kimmy’s cheekbones; she had Kimmy’s mouth, had her smile.
When Kimmy spoke, her voice was shaky and unsure. “I want you here, Josh. I want you here with me so badly. I’d do anything to have you here.”
“I know you would,” he said, and thought of the toy she’d set up where she knew he’d look. That was on him. His first reaction was anger at her manipulation, but sitting in the house she’d bought for them with his daughter in his lap, his righteous indignation paled.
Kimmy slipped off the couch and sat on the floor, scooting to close her arms and legs around him, their daughter in his arms. “I love you, Josh. I love you so much. I’ll never betray you again. I’d die before I did it.”
He didn’t know what to say, but he liked hearing the words. His lips slimmed, and he nodded along with her words.
She said, “I’m sorry, Josh. I’m sorry for the lies and all the bad things I did to you. I loved you the whole time I did it, but that changes nothing. You didn’t deserve that. And I don’t deserve you here with me after what I did.”
No, she didn’t, but she’d sacrificed a lot to prove herself to him. It would have been so much easier for her to move on without him. It would have been easier for him, too. But what was easy wasn’t what was best for Colleen. The two of them together, with renewed devotion, was the best thing. As hard as it was, it was worth it. It was the only thing that mattered.
Now he sighed long and hearty, bowing his head until his brow touched Kimmy’s cheek. He kissed her neck; soft and slow at first, then slower, with more lurid implication, sucking hard on her skin, pulling it away from her tendon, suckling. Kimmy moaned. “Let’s wait,” she said, touching his jaw, pulling back so she could look into his eyes. “Wait until Hyun gets home.”
His heart sank, remembering even though he was reunited with his wife, their life wasn’t as simple as it had been. They had a roommate, and they had a baby. At least they could rely on their roommate to watch the baby when they needed time alone.
“Okay,” he said, kissing her cheek one last time before he returned his attention to their daughter, babbling away in his lap.
Kimmy reached in his lap and hefted Colleen up to her bosom, cradling her for a moment before standing, then padding out of the family room and to the room down the hall where they kept Colleen’s crib. He sat on the floor still, weight back on his hands, staring at the space where his wife and daughter had just been. His heart pounded behind his ribs and his temples throbbed. Not hurt, not pain; no, excitement. That woman who’d birthed his daughter had so many dark ways to rip orgasms from him. And now that he’d kissed her, sucked on her neck, told her he wanted her and wanted to stay, that dark part of his mind knew the bad things he loved would soon come his way. Hyun couldn’t get home fast enough.
Kimmy returned without Colleen while he was still on the floor. He looked up and Kimmy unified her robe, showing him she wore nothing underneath. Bare tawny skin. A shaved mound. Her body toned and sleek, her nipples hard enough to catch the weight of the robe’s silk and keep the lapels from closing.
Comments
She must've meant next Thursday lol
Zach
2024-10-08 01:02:06 +0000 UTCWhat happened to the chapter that was almost ready?
Chris K
2024-10-06 22:10:00 +0000 UTCI highly recommend Kurt Vonnegut's lecture on YouTube at Case Western Reserve University culminating in his 'anthropological' analysis of the Shape of Stories... maybe save it to watch when KT puts DITW to bed. Kunning Ole Kurt will tempt you to dismiss him as a rambling old ex alcoholic... but his gasping understated mastery combined with subversive absent mindedness is a gem... a blood diamond...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-06 07:49:44 +0000 UTCThe "really" was my clumsy attempt to draw your attention to the fact that simplifying to convolute is a contradiction in terms.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-05 08:38:41 +0000 UTCLol Something from Cherry Blossoms was how you wrote the group of characters from Woodbridge. I swear I could have known a few of them back in my younger days. Your writing is so spot on. I sometimes went out with a group of girls, and two of them were named Ang. There was a third named Angela. Lol
Kat
2024-10-04 19:46:32 +0000 UTCThanks Steve, I was just mulling over the consequences of road works and good intentions and the lyric popped into my head. Then the very keening song to match the feeling. Or, as you point out, a song that has two versions that gratuitously and mayhap fortuitously resonate so well... giving voice... or rather two!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-04 17:27:24 +0000 UTCLove the quote Bill, can imagine listening to the animals song with Eric Burdon on vocals, or the slower tempo Nina Simone treatment, both hits with me.
Steve McCarty
2024-10-04 15:04:23 +0000 UTCAs you see from general reaction, KT, this seems to be endemic. I believe Skynet is using Ciberdyne to insidiously distract us from its machinations and undermine our trust in our own perceptions in order to facilitate the termination of humanity. It's fucking annoying that we have to ask ourselves who checks the checker... and connive in our own demise. Auto-destruct.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-04 07:37:54 +0000 UTCApropos a question you asked a while ago, Pete, about English accents (and therefore class)... Heard the one about the woman who backed into a bacon slicer? Pause... Dis..assed 'er! Of course, in my childhood when me dad told that 'witty quip', Me Dad had to put on a posh accent and pronounce the punchline, "Diss-arse-ter!" Those were the days! Anyone for tennis?
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-04 06:44:37 +0000 UTCTails! No wait a minute, Pete, heads! And wouldn't you know it the coin ends up on its edge leaning near upright against the table leg.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-04 06:43:15 +0000 UTCVery true, Chris! Dignity is a crutch he's never felt the need to lean on with her... or a power construct he's chosen to hide behind in general... The devil is the gentleman (or woman) not the cuckold... it's his (or her) lot to endure the shame... in Josh's case, usually, with stoicism. A philosophical construct. 'Never let the bastards grind you down.' Propaganda.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-04 05:21:09 +0000 UTCPredictions? Feels like we're headed toward an inevitable HEI. Will we arrive, or will there be an 11th hour twist??
Pete
2024-10-04 01:23:39 +0000 UTCTonight? 🤞
Kat
2024-10-03 23:35:42 +0000 UTCWell...shit!
Chris K
2024-10-03 18:41:04 +0000 UTC"Hey, did you hear Sutton got a zoo? Yeah, they put a fence around Keswick." I lived in Keswick for a spell, too, thus the inspiration for the biker bar in Innisfil from Cherry Blossoms.
KT Morrison
2024-10-03 18:22:27 +0000 UTCI'm almost done the next chapter! Probably tonight or tomorrow.
KT Morrison
2024-10-03 18:18:23 +0000 UTC"Hyun couldn’t get home fast enough." I suspect Pavlovian irony conjured in Josh's unwary mind. Or simply double entendre...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-03 13:38:10 +0000 UTC"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." Isaiah. "Morning star, most commonly used as a name for the planet Venus when it appears in the east before sunrise." "Fiat Lux!" Like so many other things, attributed to God.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-03 06:54:15 +0000 UTCCorrect! 😉
Chris K
2024-10-02 23:50:01 +0000 UTCIf he truly loves 'evil' Kimmy, to me it kinda diminishes the near death experience he had. I feel like on a re-read I won't feel anything for it. That's just me though.
Chris K
2024-10-02 23:36:36 +0000 UTCA Josh with a bit of Stockholm Syndrome is an interesting thought. No question, he’s rationalizing a lot of what happened. I don’t personally think he’s doing it solely cause he wants to be with Colleen and to give her a stable two parent family. I do think he loves Kimmy, even if he’s still wary of her. I also think a good part of him loves “dark” Kimmy, so the rationalizations also revolve around him manifesting the version of “dark” Kimmy he can live with, and it seems Kimmy wants to give him that. We’ll see how Hyun plays into it, and whether an introduction to their relationship as someone other than a “roommate” would be something he could rationalize away.
JL23
2024-10-02 23:11:44 +0000 UTCShe did lose the respect of her family. That’s not nothing, but I see where you’re coming from LS. I believe she suffered. We haven’t seen much of how she worked to win Josh back, though. Josh has let us in on what his year was like, and how he suffered. Kimmy hasn’t told us very much at all. Maybe it’s intentional from KT.
Kat
2024-10-02 20:40:01 +0000 UTCI didn't think about it when I initially read that, but is that Kimmy basically saying the ends justify the means? IE: The whole Devlin thing was a fiasco but she ended up getting what she intended out of it anyway, in a roundabout way, and thus it's "okay". I know that's not what she's telling Josh... But is that what she's telling herself on the inside? I mean, if Josh gives her what she wants tonight, has she really lost anything other than a bit of time?
L_S87
2024-10-02 20:36:49 +0000 UTCYou guys are cracking me up! 😂
Kat
2024-10-02 20:22:11 +0000 UTC"So many times when she’d done the worst things with Devlin Stone, she’d told herself—and told Josh—that a family home like this was why she worked for Devlin. And that was where they ended up. Where she’d intended all along." Let's hope it isn't time to pay the piper even if there is little evidence left of infestation about the premises... and the price he is wont to charge is notoriously prohibitive. "I'm just a soul whose intentions are good O Lord please don't let me be misunderstood!"
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 20:17:44 +0000 UTCKT, if your reading this...🙏
Chris K
2024-10-02 20:12:40 +0000 UTCIt's supposed to be a punishment, not a reward!
L_S87
2024-10-02 20:10:07 +0000 UTCOnly if you bring bad Kimmy. I'm talking deep secrets Kimmy! 😈
Chris K
2024-10-02 20:02:29 +0000 UTCNow it's three!!
Chris K
2024-10-02 19:42:38 +0000 UTCIf you just jinxed us and it ends up being two weeks, not just one, I'm finding your Chris. And then I'll have Kimmy show up with that strap on I bet she still has somewhere. (For those with no sense of humor, that was a joke)
L_S87
2024-10-02 19:40:16 +0000 UTCNo! Every two weeks! That's it...
Chris K
2024-10-02 19:32:51 +0000 UTCKT, *please* tell me we won't have to wait until next week for another update. I want to see what Kimmy does with this newfound lease Josh has deeded her now that she realizes she's getting laid.
L_S87
2024-10-02 19:31:30 +0000 UTCBill, so you know, this is what bothered me. And I should have said this instead of being a sarcastic ass about it the way that I was. "To simplify and convolute? Really?" That doesn't come across to me as "modifying" my opinion. It comes across as belittling my opinion as "wrong" where your opinion is "right" and I should see things your way. Sometimes I do. Sometimes you make points and it's like a "Huh, didn't think of that." moment. But sometimes, and maybe I'm just being sensitive, but your posts come across as a self righteous "I'm right, you're wrong" statement. That's probably not your intention. So yes, patience needs to be had. I shouldn't have made that "not an apology, apology."
L_S87
2024-10-02 19:16:49 +0000 UTCYou're right, Bill. On all of that. You probably didn't notice it because you were typing your response while I edited mine, but I removed everything I said because your post is right. It's a piss poor apology that points out why what you did was okay by rationalizating your bad behavior for other past perceived sins.
L_S87
2024-10-02 19:03:26 +0000 UTCI actually implied that the way Kimmy's behaviour was viewed was misogynistic and I still think so... You have no idea how much restraint or reticence I have shown... I admire how you have turned your sincere apology to me into a condemnation of me at the same time as calling me out as a hypocrite... I wasn't dismissive of your opinion... I attempted to modify it. And I will not point out the incongruities of your many posts. Thanks for the backhanded apology... I wasn't aware that I had, unintentionally touched a sore point of more than one individual to the extent that he would want to leave the post. And by the by, "Just because I didn't like how you were dismissing my opinion doesn't mean I should have presumed to judge how you view everything..." so you were presuming to judge how I view everything... At least my apology to that one individual was sincere and I didn't attempt to revindicate myself in it.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 18:50:59 +0000 UTCHer comment about Josh looking for the panties makes me wonder at that, though. Will she really be vanilla? Her walking up to and standing over Josh, partially naked in what would have to feel like a somewhat dominating position makes me wonder. If she did set the dildo box up as a trap, and she does think him looking for the panties means she's getting lucky tonight, then I'm thinking she's feeling like he wants some of that darkness? The question is, how much does she show, if any. Maybe she shows none at first to force Josh to ask for it. Put it in his hands to draw the line so she doesn't step over. Of course, Hyun is still out there, and the haunting specter of what Kimmy did with her.
L_S87
2024-10-02 18:15:46 +0000 UTCAgree 100%, LS. With everything you said. How they respond after sex will indeed be interesting. In these last two chapters, I'm getting very mixed messages from Josh as to how he "wants" her to treat him during sex. If anything, I get the strong impression that he's longing for her to bring out the dark Kimmy in the bedroom. But, Josh hasn't always been the clearest communicator. If anything, in this book, he's clearly voiced his distaste for Dark Kimmy. If he does long for that in the bedroom, his words (so far) have encouraged the opposite. After his reaction to her "teasing" him with Keith, Kimmy is probably terrified of being "dark" with him between the sheets. I expect her to be completely vanilla.
Pete
2024-10-02 18:01:00 +0000 UTCI see this story very differently than many here. I agree Josh had set the stage for all that happened. Like so many cuck stories, it’s the cuck and the cuck’s fantasy that is ultimately in control. Yes, Josh experienced the cuck angst. Yes, there was no formal agreement between Josh and Kimmy for the game. Yet, it was all Josh’s game and everyone including Kimmy realized it except Josh…until the end. Both Kimmy and Josh paid huge prices for the way they played the game. Without formal consent up front, the game became more dangerous and could have easily ended the relationship. However, Colleen became the corner stone that held the couple together and pulled Josh back to Kimmy. Once united they begin, in this last chapter, to rebuild. The prospect of “love again” is there and left to the reader to aspire to. And, that’s what keeps me engaged with every book KT writes. She plays on my angst, my desire for the happy ending. Perhaps the rest of us too. As for me, it’s another masterful job of KT working my lust and my heart to keep me entertained and coming back for another episode. Way to go!
Randy
2024-10-02 17:45:46 +0000 UTCBoth Pete? You're right, Kimmy loves him, but she's also not above bullying and abusing him because she enjoys it. Even this book, with the whole Keith Stone thing, showed that. She simply backed off because she realized the truth would burn her if she didn't correct the lies she was telling until later. When I said one sided, I was meaning more they Kimmy loves him but he doesn't love her, only Colleen. Josh deserves a relationship where he can love them both. Not be afraid to love his wife because it will make him vulnerable to another betrayal. Likewise, awful as she's been, I don't really want Kimmy to spend the next 20 years loving someone who doesn't reciprocate. That would be awful. For her and Colleen. Because it would show at some point. Maybe that's Kimmy's penance? She got Josh back in the house. And she's gonna get to have sex with him. But earning his love and trust will take a lot longer. And will probably be filled with moments where it's painfully obvious Josh doesn't feel the way she does. Not sure. How they respond after they have sex will be key. How Kimmy treats him during it will also be key.
L_S87
2024-10-02 17:43:52 +0000 UTCI’m still wondering what Hyun’s motivation for staying there is, other than financial. She must feel like a third wheel. Kimmy seems to be treating her like a hired nanny. I’m dying to know what’s going through her mind watching Josh take her place in Colleen and Kimmy’s lives, especially if Josh is there mainly for Colleen.
Kat
2024-10-02 17:37:57 +0000 UTCWell, I don't think it's Josh in the one-sided relationship. Kimmy does love him. Although I guess you could argue it's always one-sided if they don't both love one another. It suggests to me the question of whether it's more important to love your partner or be loved by your partner.
Pete
2024-10-02 17:37:37 +0000 UTCYou know, just read what I posted and realized, no matter how "right" I may feel on the subject, it simply comes across as a Kimmy-esque rationalization and was bullshit. I didn't like how you quoted me Bill, and I let it get under my skin when I responded. Shouldn't have done it and I apologize. Show some more patience, please. That way we can keep discussing.
L_S87
2024-10-02 17:29:26 +0000 UTCHmmmm. Maybe. There's other lines, where he talks about being reunited with his wife, about his heart sinking when she said they had to wait for Hyun, that makes me think that's not true. That he does still love her. However. Your points are very astute. At no point did Josh accept Kimmys apologies or say it was okay, nor did he say he loved her back when she said it to him, multiple times. Instead he didn't know what to say. He just said he was staying and the implication that the major reason is Colleen is plain as day. So you could be right. They could spend years exploring their sexual darkness while Kimmy strives to prove herself, but never getting back to that spot where Josh loves and trusts her implicitly. I don't know. Kinda sucks if that's how it ends. Josh says Kimmy doesn't deserve what she's getting, but Josh doesn't deserve being in a one sided relationship, Colleen or not. We'll see. Maybe Hyun can spice things up!
L_S87
2024-10-02 17:19:29 +0000 UTCI just read the text as though it's KT's story not mine... Her past work has taught me never to underestimate where she may, can or will take a story. You are egregiously presumptuous in your knowledge of what I may or may not think... and you have a peculiar way of dealing with 'my' intransigence and lack of conversation. But, of course, whatever pleases you, and doesn't disturb your own opinion. A little patience goes a long way I have found. Something you have been benefiting from. Up to now. That and my respect for KT whose Patreon this is... Oh, and your assertion that for me KT can do no wrong has been proven wrong this very day.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 16:39:59 +0000 UTCI like when you talk about local stuff in this book, KT. It’s what’s made this story feel so real to me…that and your incredible writing. And Sutton is near Keswick, and Keswick is major boonies, or at least it was when I was growing up. Lol
Kat
2024-10-02 16:33:49 +0000 UTCI think you may be right, Pete. What you wrote makes a lot of sense. Josh is staying for his daughter, there’s no doubt about that. Kimmy’s getting him back, but not purely because he loves her. It’s kind of sad if you think about it.
Kat
2024-10-02 16:13:36 +0000 UTCI think a sad part of this is that Josh no longer loves Kimmy. He said, “I’d be crazy not to,” [stay here in the house] then looked down at Colleen, so in love with her. His heart is full of love for his daughter. And his primary thoughts of Kimmy aren't that he loves her (if at all) but how well she can (and likely will) cater to his dark fantasies. For those hungering for more punishment for Kimmy, this is it. It may be feel subtle, but it's pretty terrible. Josh is staying because because he loves his daughter, who he met days ago. Not because he loves Kimmy. Kimmy may "get Josh," but her love is not now and may never again be reciprocated. Perhaps she's earned that. Maybe that's justice.
Pete
2024-10-02 16:02:06 +0000 UTCI don't care what happened before the books. It's irrelevant. Josh has no dignity, and this is just the easy win for the wife. There is no sin if the dick is hard. Same ol', same ol'
Chris K
2024-10-02 14:59:45 +0000 UTCNot true, Chris. Or at least, based on our understanding of events before the books, not true. We've just never seen it 1st hand because the entire series has basically been Kimmy robbing him of it to catch a thrill. I won't say make her happy, because I think she's realized that she wasnt happy with much of what she did. She is happy with this this version of Josh who will forgive her awfulness while leaving the door open for her to abuse him again, so she can enjoy the things she figured out with Devlin that she likes. Just with some moderation so that Josh never gets pushed so far that he leaves again. Or so I hope. Sorta. Josh doesn't deserve what is about to be heaped on him. Hopefully Kimmy is actually telling the truth, for once, when she says she's sorry and she'll never betray him again.
L_S87
2024-10-02 14:47:05 +0000 UTCJosh has never had dignity with Kimmy.
Chris K
2024-10-02 14:36:41 +0000 UTCI get it, Bill. But I'll continue being foolish because I feel like some things are binary, and for me, this is one of them. After KTs post, I get that I lost trace of the "actual truth" of what happened doesn't necessarily correlate to Josh's version he describes in that paragraph. Some of it is true, some of it isn't. It just irks me that the parts that aren't give Kimmy a free pass. But if that is Joshs way of accepting the current circumstances so he can get a modicum of love and joy out of Kimmy's own joy of abusing him, then I get it. I hate that Colleen coming first means Josh will spend the rest of his life in a pseudo relationship where he bounces from love to hate depending on how Kimmy chooses to torture him that day. Given how dark the series has been, I guess that makes sense. But I hate it. I can't wait to get this done so I can get back to Summer Swap where there's pain, and there's problems, but even Chey's stubborn selfish whining can be resolved with some happiness.
L_S87
2024-10-02 14:22:50 +0000 UTCThe auto correct on my iPad has been wonky lately, too. Sometimes it auto corrects words that are spelled correctly and replaces it with gibberish. Drives me nuts.
Kat
2024-10-02 14:18:33 +0000 UTCThan you, KT. I was starting to see that, which is why I made that last post. I was viewing things from the lens of Josh deserving to be happy and things being "right", or my version of them being such. Which is why I was struggling so much. Further reflection and your post have helped me understand. So I get it now. But does it make sense that I hate it? I get where you're going, it's a dark revelation that Josh is accepting Kimmy's version of who he is and why things happened because it makes it easier to live with her, in this house, because he wants to be a part of Colleen's life. And be loved, however toxic that love may be, rather than an empty shell who does his duty yet hates it. Rationalization is a power tool. I still dislike it. It ruins the story for me. Not your writing, I just don't like this. I wanted Josh to have legitimate happiness and a healthy love, whether that was because Kimmy actually repented and truly changed herself for him or Josh found it with Karina or someone else. Probably naive, but I felt like 14 books of pain earned him a reprieve. Not more suffering as Kimmy starts down the path of seeing how badly she can twist him to get her rocks off now that he's capitulated to her desires. I wonder at Hyun's role in this sordid affair. Did she verbally abuse Josh as part of a plan by both of them, or was that happenstance? I still want to find out. When viewed through this new perspective, I see what you've done. It's great writing. I just abhor it. Is that okay?
L_S87
2024-10-02 14:13:00 +0000 UTC“Kimmy was a product of his own machination. The things he had done made Kimmy who she was. This is not true. Period.” I 100% agree with you here , LS. Josh is gaslighting himself, in an attempt to find a way to be with his daughter and be with the woman he still loves. Nothing he did made Kimmy sleep with Devlin. Nothing. And she may have gotten turned on doing stuff that tormented and turned him on, but she did those things way before she knew what they would do to Josh. What kind of darkness does Josh think he needs back in his life? He’s conveniently forgetting how much the darkness repulsed him when he saw it was real with his own eyes. I’m all for them doing whatever turns them on, provided they both like it and have given consent, but it just seems too easy and too fast for Josh to just capitulate to this again. Just the week before Josh was lamenting having to sit in the garage apartment, imprisoned, watching Kimmy with her “lover” from the window. Also, Hyun sounds more like a live in housekeeper/nanny more than an ex-lover of Kimmy’s. Does Hyun really want to take care of their baby when she knows they’re fucking in Kimmy’s room upstairs? It’s kind of weird, and really weird to tell Josh to wait until Hyun gets home. Kimmy and Hyun can’t possibly be in a romantic relationship anymore.
Kat
2024-10-02 14:03:59 +0000 UTCDon't worry, KT. I think we all get it. My phone that I'm typing on drives me bonkers with what it will auto replace even when I'm several words past that in the sentence. Yet other things it leaves wrong. End up spending 5 minutes after posting rereading my comment and editing to get it right. It's a great tool, but it can drive me batty.
L_S87
2024-10-02 14:03:29 +0000 UTC"And Madonna, she still has not showed We see this empty cage now corrode Where her cape of the stage once had flowed The fiddler, he now steps to the road He writes everything's been returned which was owed On the back of the fish truck that loads While my conscience explodes The harmonicas play the skeleton keys and the rain And these visions of Johanna are now all that remain.... Awwwww... Aaaawwwwwwwwlllllllllllllllllll !"
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 13:40:49 +0000 UTC"You don't know what you've got till it's gone..." Once more with greater frivolity!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 13:32:20 +0000 UTCJosh is submitting against his will and rationalizing the process to preserve his perceived dignity.
KT Morrison
2024-10-02 13:25:01 +0000 UTCI grew up in the Unionville area a long, long time ago. It used to be you would get the popular Polynesian-style Chinese food (your sweet and sours, your chicken balls, etc.), then before Hong Kong reverted to Chinese domain, Unionville area had a massive influx of wary Chinese people and our Chinese cuisine went through the roof. The influx began in the 80s, but wow, I remember being in Sutton one time (which is an hour north of Unionville) around 1998 or so, and getting hands-down the best Chinese meal of my life. Sutton is like the boonies and here I was getting incredible food I've never had before.
KT Morrison
2024-10-02 13:23:03 +0000 UTCJosh isn't a saint no matter what Kimmy said, nor is he less of a manipulator or victim of language than she is, but it is foolish to exaggerate the personal responsibility of either of them. Judgement is a not always attractive aspect of self awareness... often 'self' serving. The heart wants what the heart wants, which can mean what one feels the lack, the absence of... something that appears to make Waters want to cleave together not be cleft in twain... but what the fuck do I know that isn't frangible? I find binary discrimination not to be a fit with my experience. Everything is relative and all I expect is a sense of an ending at some point that can pass itself off as not being random. Instilling frigid probability with emotive power...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 13:15:51 +0000 UTCI swear an AI spellcheck has taken over my Scrivener—I have so many of these little mixups now, and Scrivener keeps second guessing my words while I'm typing. I might have to leave Scrivener. I have my spell check turned off for this reason! If the word stays misspelled, I'll notice it on a re-read (or my editing software will). But if it changes the word to a sound-alike, then I don't see it on a re-read!
KT Morrison
2024-10-02 13:14:20 +0000 UTCReading it I thought it said “untied” but it does say “unified.” But I also assume that was a typo and it’s supposed to be “untied” meaning as L_S87 said, she’s beginning her seduction of him. Does Hyun play a role in that? We’ll find out in the next few chapters. Since we likely only have a few left, I’m assuming this is the concluding scene: Josh and Kimmy reconciling sexually. But that reconciliation could take many forms.
JL23
2024-10-02 11:29:01 +0000 UTCThere's so much I like about what was said here, but I keep getting twisted up with this. "Kimmy was a product of his own machination. The things he had done made Kimmy who she was." This is not true. Period. That's not how things went down, and it bugs me a lot that this is stated as fact when it's not. Now, maybe the intent is that Josh is finding excuses in his own mind to forgive Kimmy, to let her off the hook, so he can get what he "wants". I can see that, but it's at odds with everything he's fought for, even in this book. It's a simple explanation and acceptance for a situation so convoluted and difficult that it would take scholars a decade to parse through it and form a conclusion. Perhaps it's because I see other ways for them to get there that makes more sense to me, and I dislike this "easy" route that Josh is forced through because it cuts Kimmy so much slack and makes her "redemption" trivial due to the ease with which it's given. Not earned, but given, unjustly. All my complaints aside, I want to see how Kimmy handles giving Josh his darkness, if she she makes it all about her, which is what led to why this was such a betrayal (something Josh basically glosses over to ease this along) or if she makes this about balance and giving Josh what he wants while also taking what she needs, but leaving it at the bedroom door. How she deals with the Hyun thing will make or break this for me. She has a chance to make things right, but will she?
L_S87
2024-10-02 11:26:57 +0000 UTCI think this was intended to point to them having a meal that would have been a "treat" for them to have before this whole fiasco started. This feels like something they've done before, many times, having something authentic that Kimmy enjoys and Josh learned to love being with her. It's a bit of normalcy for them amidst all these weighty issues they're navigating through.
L_S87
2024-10-02 11:09:49 +0000 UTCI think that's a typo, Bill. I think KT meant "untied" there. So she's partially disrobed? Enough to show Josh the goods and him focused on her and what's to come. It is kinda weird that she would say let's wait for Hyun then return like this. There's a reason for that, just not sure what it is.
L_S87
2024-10-02 11:05:28 +0000 UTCPondered this some more, and maybe the intent is that Josh is acting like he has Stockholm Syndrome. He's heard enough lies that he now simply repeats them because things are easier that way. Of course, that makes it even worse because Josh is the victim of abuse who now finds ways to normalize it. You can even see Josh saying he was angry at Kimmy once again manipulating him with that big dildo, but then decides, with no reason given, that said manipulation is okay and doesn't matter. If that's the intent, wow, it's even more awful than I thought. Probably more fitting with how dark the series has been, but makes me like it even less because I wanted Josh to find actual happiness, not this false facsimile where he's the pretzel, twisted as many times as necessary for Kimmy to be happy.
L_S87
2024-10-02 11:01:51 +0000 UTCI know KT can do no wrong for you, Bill, so there's no real conversation to be had here. Josh is accepting Kimmys prior assertions as truth, while revising what really happened and ignoring other things he's pointed out many times. It's an amelioration of guilt on Kimmy's part by accepting guilt of his own, this balancing the scales so they're both equally at fault for what happened, thus lessening the severity of Kimmy's crimes. Add in Josh aping back all that Kimmy has "done" to earn him back and it no longer feels like truth, just an easy excuse to move things forward so they can get what Kimmy wants and she "wins". Ultimately, my issues aren't what is happening but how they are happening. You can like it. I don't. That's how things work sometimes.
L_S87
2024-10-02 09:40:51 +0000 UTCPS Love the extended 'Chinese' food metaphor/ conceit...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 09:32:40 +0000 UTC"Or Dim Suffusion Veiled"... There's none so blind as those who will not see!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 09:20:52 +0000 UTCPS Kimmy thinks she broke Josh and fears that she might do it again. Oh, boy! She really immerses herself in a role! What chops! And the twins that play Colleen... I can't tell them apart!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 09:06:55 +0000 UTCIt seems the book has conditioned the reader to think that all the times Kimmy went to 'work' she was sniggering hypocritically spasming adoringly (and adorably) on her boss's irresistable dick. So the life she now has is an extension of their perverted expectations. Home free with a rewarding job in every sense... but really she spends most of her maritally free time finger frigging herself to completion then swooning to her exclusive video collection. 'Not' in a stone walled iron barred cage but gloating that she got away with it all scot free... feigning conscience and love... Phew! I almost didn't make it! Now only a few finishing touches and I'll be mistress of all I behold. What a tangled web! And it's all mine. Mine! And I also get to be the disappointing son my father never had!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 08:49:29 +0000 UTCYou say disrobe but the text says 'unified', which I took to mean readjusted, thus granting Josh his hot teasing flash... have I misunderstood? Is Kimmy preparing a tableau to greet Hyun on her return?
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 08:03:17 +0000 UTCMaybe what caused everything to collapse before was honesty, if you view the situation dispassionately. Maybe lies are not intrinsically bad. The truth is just as much a slippery protean concept as a lie... "We hold these truths to be self-evident..." Really, thank you slave owning squirarchy... and the "all men" given the state of suffrage in the brave new world certainly further supports a smug 'cock and balls' story... or shall I mercifully amend it to just 'bull.' To simplify and convolute? Really? "Instead it feels like a cringy way for Kimmy to "win" by Josh accepting "responsibility" for things." Not what I got from the text... Win what? Responsibility for what? He is re-examining specific past occurrences... not with unalloyed joy either... He doesn't know he is a character in a story approaching its 'ending'... He's just "another day older and deeper in debt"... he just wants a nostalgic uncomplicated love and lust entangled session that only exists in his mind. Or generously their minds. But, even whilst wilfully maintaining my own suspension of disbelief, it seems things are gonna be a bit more complicated than he, or any of us, expect. More ad hoc at any rate...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 07:09:37 +0000 UTC"And if it weren’t for this baby daughter whose tiny little hands gripped both his index fingers, maybe he never would have come back." Respect, KT. I understand why this book is so epic, you have the ear of the Muse... and the gift of her invocation.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 06:22:43 +0000 UTC"That wasn’t a perfect segment of time, but he’d loved her in it; the miscarriage had changed their relationship. It had made them—or at least him—wary of the other. For the first time, he’d felt unsure of their future. He’d forgotten about that because that feeling had become insignificant about eight weeks later when he’d begun suspecting something was going on behind his back." Just in case I'm reading a different book... one that is as superbly written and as subtly engaging as ever, which doesn't stretch my credulity, or the author's credibility.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 06:18:01 +0000 UTC"But what was easy wasn’t what was best for Colleen. The two of them together, with renewed devotion, was the best thing. 'As hard as it was,' it was worth it. 'It was the only thing that mattered'." It's rather telling that focus is being drawn by readers to the superficial affluence that the Waters are now cosseted by and ignoring the stress and anguish which bought it. Clearly cultural promises are more valuable than the slavery that was and remains the price paid to achieve them. The veil of illusion and the 'pursuit' of happiness are 'proof' that all the anguish and suffering undergone is now gone for good. The Puritan work ethic is mere evidence that despite the hellish world in which we live the 'good' have inherited the earth by the toil and sweat and tears the Almighty CONDEMNED them to. Catch 22 which despite Heller's (or his editor's) enumeration is the one and only catch. Encapsulating all other catches... And the preterite predeterminate villainess can never earn, or deserve, the Redeemer's sacrifice. Fuckin' ironic, innit! At least, I don't need to feel guilty about all the ludic lewdness she gifted me... Huh! So guilt is not a double edged sword... and Josh's lucubrations (or is it elucubrations) are gospel! And Kimmy's regrets are brothel stew...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 05:12:06 +0000 UTC"she hadn’t seen so lively when she’d first come home," Error... but should it be... she hadn’t 'seemed' so lively when she’d first come home, OR, she hadn’t been so lively when she’d first come home, OR something else?
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-02 04:52:49 +0000 UTCThere's all sorts of intrigue in here i love. And KT is always awesome with dialogue, but I could have done without a full paragraph of revisionist history from Josh when it's sole purpose isn't to add to the story but to convolute and simplify it so that Josh's acceptance and capitulation "makes sense" and becomes "easy to accept". I kind of feel like we're not even reading about Josh anymore. Instead he's a doppelganger put in his place that doesn't quite know who he's emulating, so we get all these weird decisions and contradictory statements. That all happen to benefit Kimmy and her redemption. That's probably what bothers me the most. None of this feels written as a rebirth and rejuvenation of Josh. Him finding a reward for the hell he was put through. It feels solely focused on a redemption of Kimmy. A redemption where she's allowed to lie, manipulate and betray, while saying she won't do any of those things, and Josh is twisted like a pretzel until it makes sense to accept it. After all, isn't it a betrayal to tell Josh she's with Keith Stone, simply to manipulate him into sex, when she knows how much that would hurt him? Yet, no punishment for that. No consequences. It will be interesting to see how the Hyun issue is resolved. Based on how every other chapter has gone, I'm sure that will be in Kimmy's favor too.
L_S87
2024-10-02 02:12:31 +0000 UTCYou two aren't the only ones. While I greatly dislike how KT has framed Josh here, way too much revisionist history to make this Josh's fault when it's not, I immediately wondered why Kimmy wanted to wait for Hyun. It's not like they have to wait for her to look after Colleen. Of course, Kimmy showing up naked, maybe that was just a distraction to lull him into thinking nothing was going to happen, so she could spring her naked surprise on him. I will say I find it hard to believe Kimmy saying she'll never betray him again when her Hyun secret is a betrayal in and of itself. Depending on how things have been going between them, it may be a past betrayal that she never intends to commit again, but it's still a lie of ommission and betrayal none the less. Which is why I kinda wonder about the waiting for Hyun bit. A confession after dark fantasy sex? Something more? A request for permission? I don't know. I would say before this chapter and most of this book, such a thing would be ridiculous because Josh would never accept it, but he's surrendering faster than a Frenchman circa 1940. I wanted them together, I just didn't want it to feel this forced and artificial.
L_S87
2024-10-02 01:47:00 +0000 UTCI was going to say the same thing. The food they’re eating is authentic Chinese food, the real stuff. Unionville, where they live now, has a large Chinese population with many authentic restaurants. I’ve been to a couple of them in Markham, which is nearby. It was interesting. Dim sum in Chinatown was another experience.
Kat
2024-10-02 01:34:48 +0000 UTCNail on the head as well LS. At this point, it's so frustrating I just want to see Kimmy fall on her ass out of spite.
Chris K
2024-10-02 01:34:29 +0000 UTCHit the nail on the head, Chris. This chapter feels like a direct response to some of us who don't understand why this has been so "easy" or why Josh would so easily capitulate after one week instead of several months of Kimmy *actually* working hard and sacrificing to prove to him the things she states here. Unfortunately, just because something is stated as fact, doesn't make it actually so. There's a reason Josh doesn't list what she's sacrificed, or the hard things she's done to earn him back. Because there really aren't any. Those are statements made so that Josh's ease of slipping back into letting Kimmy abuse him and be evil can "make sense". Just like why Josh's statements of acceptance of guilt, of this being his fault, are made. It provides cover for Kimmy, makes her actions less egregious, instead makes Josh look like the bad guy for rejecting Kimmy when it was "his fault" all this happened. Of course, if you go back and read the book, you know Josh didn't start dropping hints to Kimmy until well after she had cheated, multiple times. His statements of being at fault completely contradicts the "she twisted him with fantasies to cover her guilt" line of the story. Which she did. This comes across more as an easy excuse to push things a certain direction rather than actually corroborating some of the storylines from 14 past books. For me, this doesn't feel like Josh discovering something about himself and then he and Kimmy exploring it. Instead it feels like a cringy way for Kimmy to "win" by Josh accepting "responsibility" for things. I will say that I wonder about Kimmy wanting to wait for Hyun and if that has any significance beyond taking care of Colleen. After all, we still have the rather large plot hole to fill of how their relationship is working and the lies of ommission that she hasn't told Josh. "I will never betray you again. Oh, but I'm already doing it by hiding this truth from you." Because lying about stuff that big cetainly isn't what caused everything to collapse before.
L_S87
2024-10-02 01:29:52 +0000 UTCThey can keep it! I'll stick with the Lo Mein and orange chicken! Lol
Chris K
2024-10-02 01:29:38 +0000 UTCThat’s actual Chinese food. Not what you normally get on a menu at a Chinese take out place. Don’t get me wrong, that’s also Chinese food, but it’s definitely made for a more American (or in this case, Canadian, palate.) There are a lot of places around where I live that if you know what to order (and speak Chinese), you can get all sorts of other things besides Beef with Broccoli or Lo Mein, and that aren’t on the regular menu.
JL23
2024-10-02 01:28:00 +0000 UTCI just realized I've never really delved into Chinese food before. That order is gonna give me nightmares...
Chris K
2024-10-02 01:04:43 +0000 UTCI know JL. I was thinking the exact same thing. It was a weird thing to say, and then show up naked.
Kat
2024-10-02 01:04:43 +0000 UTC“Wait until Hyun gets home.” I know rationally that probably just meant wait until she was home and didn’t potentially walk in on them. But what if it didn’t? And…Kimmy then comes back and disrobes to end the chapter. Just a thought.
JL23
2024-10-02 00:40:24 +0000 UTCI don't understand what these 'hard things she's done to earn him back' is. She took a year off of marriage, has a great job, bought a house, and has given him no real honesty whatsoever. What exactly has she done to earn him back? Say I'm sorry?
Chris K
2024-10-02 00:22:29 +0000 UTCGreat a new DITW chapter!
Andrew Mellein
2024-10-02 00:06:38 +0000 UTC