Thnx. I just checked it out. It's not bad, but it didn't blow my mind either. Her vocals did though π
crispy chicken
2023-07-01 00:44:17 +0000 UTC
Hwi-seo - "....I wouldn't be surprised if she's even good at rapping"
Check out her Hey Mama cover!!! Girl can rap!
2023-06-30 19:00:35 +0000 UTC
Ah great! Hadn't noticed they uploaded 2 versions. Thnx again π
crispy chicken
2023-06-26 22:25:08 +0000 UTC
Got ya. I don't really expect people to read my novels so I just wanted to make sure :)
You need to watch the "Full Cam" videos. Those are the uncut versions, no reaction shots, all one camera. It's basically what the girls in the studio would have seen.
Marcel Wannieck
2023-06-26 21:46:51 +0000 UTC
Thnx for the info, although I already had read it in your essay π
I had already watched some of the performances on youtube though, in the hopes of it being the uncut (no reaction cuts) full performance, but they still were cut and looked the same as in the show. So I stopped watching them. But since you pointed out some will be longer I might go watch them later π
crispy chicken
2023-06-26 21:43:18 +0000 UTC
The performances that felt really short to you did so because Mnet didn't show them in their entirety. Soojin's cover of 28 Reasons was cut in half for example. She had an entire dance break that Mnet just cut from the episode.
Marcel Wannieck
2023-06-26 18:40:46 +0000 UTC
I won't get into the scores because it's the contestants who voted, so they could easily have different reasons for voting other than quality, therefore I can't really agree or disagree.
Ju-ri
- "what's wrong with her voice?". I think ppl were just surprised about her singing tone being lower than her usual talking voice. Not that it was bad or anything.
- I think she did pretty good. The performance lost a bit of energy towards the end though.
Yeon-hee
- I can see the Dahyun resemblance.
- Mnet still trying to hype up the Rockets π vs the Bullets π« 'rivalry'.
- Now THAT's how you do a new outfit reveal!
- I think all the girls are getting more and more stingy with giving upvotes (probably because they already performed and got some downvotes). The standards are also getting raised.
- She did very well imo. Very professional. Still had some nice sharp moves even with the broken shoe. I really enjoyed her performance.
So-eun
- "Would be nice if they covered Dreamcatcher". I agree, but apart from Lapillus' cover a month ago (and Rolling Quartz) I don't think any idol has officially covered DC in their whole 6.5 years of existence... π
- Her performance was ok for me, but short like you said.
Soo-jin
- Like I expected, it's so nice to see you recognize all these songs now π
- She did great. No critiques here.
- She has a great name too π
Seo-yeon
- (G)I-dle's leader is So-yeon (μμ°). "So" has the sound like in "go".
This girl's name is Seo-yeon (μμ°). "Seo" has the sound like in "or".
- What a refreshing attitude. And attitude is as much part of being an idol as their singing and dancing ability imo.
Mi-ru
- With 13 years of experience I expected just a little bit more. It was still good though.
- The song did get a little bit boring for me though.
Yu-ki
- First part was great. The second part lost all the energy for me and I didn't like the dance and performance that much. Third part was good again.
Sang-ah
- So good to hear CLC
- So good to hear Tomboy π
- Personally I didn't like her rapping voice that much. That's just my opinion. She certainly has the attitude but her rap wasn't as strong imo.
Ye-eun
- All 3 rappers back-to-back? Really Mnet?
- Her performance was one of the best. So confident. I do think she can sing better than this, and I was hoping to hear her rap (not a fan of this song). I guess she keeps that in reserve.
Hae-in
- Her voice is so sweet. I'm melting π«
- The 2nd part was ok for me. Although she is one of the older idols here and therefore could theoretically pull off more mature concepts, but it still isn't her strong suit imo.
- I wonder if this disappointing result, or the competitive nature of this show was the reason of her leaving. Very sad that she left though π’
El-ly
- Very confusing editing where they show both Chaerin's and Elly's intros first.
- That passionate fan is very similar to Joy's (Red Velvet) legendary fan. You should look that up some time cause it's pretty funny π
- I think most of these girls will probably have sung this song in a noraebang/karaoke.
- It was very short. She didn't seem nervous and looked like she was enjoying it. Too bad for that tiny mistake.
Chae-rin
- So, the Rocket Punch girls got low votes and then the last member said she felt she had to do extra well for them. Meanwhile, the Cherry Bullet girls got high votes which made the last member feel like she also had to do very well π . Seems like it doesn't matter what your members do, they will be pressured anyway π
- Yeah, her vocals were ok, but the performance was lacking for me.
Joo-E
- Taeyeon channeling Siyeon: Yes baby yes
- "24 hours" is a popular Sunmi song
- I expected a little bit more considering she also performed solo in a recent program (The Second World) and did very well there. Here she had to everything herself though.
Hwi-seo
- Great voice. Great performance, I wouldn't be surprised if she's even good at rapping.
Ke-i
- Excellent vocals (as expected of course, but she's also human, so she could've gotten nervous for example) and excellent performance.
I always dislike it when lower ranked contestants don't get to choose. It seemed to work out fine here fortunately.
One thing to remember with these shows is that all girls are used to be told what to do when performing with their respective groups. Their performances are usually made for them. And now in this show they suddenly get (some) artistic freedom.
Just like in previous Queendoms it will be interesting to see how the girls will grow with that artistic freedom. It's one of my favorite things about this show actually. Seeing contestants discover more about who they are as (individual) artists, what they want to perform, and how to perform it.
crispy chicken
2023-06-26 17:06:58 +0000 UTC
Hands Up is hands down my fav Cherry Bullet song π
crispy chicken
2023-06-26 16:10:33 +0000 UTC
Strangely accurate
crispy chicken
2023-06-26 15:49:48 +0000 UTC
yes daniel you're not alone, yeonhee does give dahyun vibes cause she looks a little like dahyun π my rocket punch girls deserve better
bboshaki
2023-06-26 04:35:22 +0000 UTC
And Mnet succeeded at painting Bora and Jiwon as evil, after that episode the girls received so much hate on social media especially Bora itβs crazy
Maureen
2023-06-26 04:14:57 +0000 UTC
Thanks Marcel. I know there is a subtle difference but it was too difficult for me to describe. Iβm just a novice with Korean so thank you for the detailed explanation!
"Seo and So are pronounced the same even though they are spelled differently."
Eh, not really. There is a (very subtle but real) difference. I'm gonna copy a part from my comment that I'm still writing as I haven't finished the episode yet:
There are two different βoβ sounds in Korean, γ and γ . γ is a deeper, more closed off sounding βoβ. This is what (G)I-DLE Soyeon has in her name: μμ°.
γ on the other hand is a more open, ligher and airier βoβ. This one gets transcribed with βeoβ in the Latin alphabet. This is the one that tripleS Seoyeon has: μμ°.
The difference in pronounciations can be subtle if you're not familiar with the language but it does exist.
Marcel Wannieck
2023-06-25 22:29:30 +0000 UTC
Yeah, I never knew there was a military billboard either. Also, my bet for Bora's downvote is Kei. Chaeyeon is a given since she said she gave everyone a down.
I feel bad for most of the 2nd ep performances. Everyone did seem to get more critical as things went and honestly I thought some were better than ones that got higher votes early on. For this episode my fav hands down is Miru. It may not be entirely for the right reasons in terms of competition but the longer it gets since I first got into kpop the more moved I am by acts of kindness (since I see so much of the toxic side in places like Twitter)and there was such a gentle sincerity in Miru that she automatically has me rooting for her. Also hoping Elly does well bc everyone including me sleeps on Weki Meki too much. Am glad those stages are finally done though.
Quick question, are you considering reacting to SWF 2 when it comes out? I think it's sometime late August when it airs. I'm particularly excited about that since Lia Kim is participating
Laura
2023-06-25 20:50:48 +0000 UTC
Chaerin is a very talented girl and even though I'm tired of FNC sending their groups and especially my girls Cherry Bullet on these types of show instead of giving them promotions. At least this give the opportunity to show more of Chaerin outside of her acting skill. I remember watching Cherry Bullet - Hands up MV and being mesmerized by this girl, she had so much charisma in it. And I'm sure that once she gain more confidence she will be insane and blow our mind just like she did in the SNAP performance video.
Maureen
2023-06-25 20:33:29 +0000 UTC
I don't wanna be mean, but the evaluation performances this ep got me thinking they are just a bunch of jealous ****** (insert the word you like), who use the tiniest mistakes to excuse their downvoting.
That's why I usually prefer boygroups; LeSserafim, New Jeans and GFriend the only gg I find somewhat okay.
Beppeli
2023-06-25 20:27:00 +0000 UTC
Seo and So are pronounced the same even though they are spelled differently. The seo in Hwi-Seo and Seo-Yeon are still pronounced like the English word so.
The order that mnet shows us the performances isn't the actual order that they performed in but it does seem that contestants were less likely to upvote someone later on in the round. My opinion is that once you already performed and got your score it's easier to make the choice to downvote someone else to keep your spot. Take Hwiseo for example, besides Chaeyeon I can think of 3 people who had the most to gain by downvoting her. The current 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place. If any of them upvoted her they would likely be conceding their place. Now we don't know who actually downvoted who except Chaeyeon :) but this is a competition and ranking high in this does have rewards associated with it.
Juri - I thought she did well but she didn't do anything to differentiate her version from the original so I think that may be why she got so few up votes.
Yeonhee - I was really impressed with her performance. I think she at least deserved more up votes than down votes. I would have expected in the 18-20 range.
Soeun - I was disappointed in myself for not recognizing her outfit earlier. I'm going to blame it on lack of screen time in the first episode. Mnet only showed half of her performance in the show and in my opinion the second half was more interesting.
Soojin - I liked it. Again Mnet cut out like half of the performance. I enjoyed how you clowned yourself into thinking she was performing somebody else's kpop song called Flower :)
Seoyeon - I can't believe Mnet showed us the results before the performance! When I watched this later with my friend I warned her to look away until the performance actually started. If Seoyeon can barely walk in those damn heels how do they expect her to dance in them? I liked her personality and the performance was cute but I agree with her expecting to get 0 votes. My expectation of Queendom Puzzle is that it's different from Produce and Girls Planet because those shows are for trainees and amateurs to improve their base skills and Queendom Puzzle is for experienced contestants whose groups have either disbanded or are lacking popularity to get a second chance. Anyways I'm sure she'll improve during the show and I look forward to seeing more of her.
Miru - thank god Miru is here to balance out Chaeyeon. Just remove 1 up and down vote from everyone to see the real score :) I enjoyed Miru's performance. Her vocals were better than I expected but I think she got most of the downvotes for the choreography. I don't think the choreo was up to current kpop standards but her stage presence was excellent.
I loved how Taeyeon was like I know Miru doesn't know Korean well so let's have her friend Juri say something to her. Then Juri started speaking to Miru in Korean and when she switched back to Japanese Suyun had to help her finish her sentence :)
Yuki - She performed her solo song Who Cares from her debut trailer. All 7 Purple Kiss members had short MVs for original solo songs to announce the members pre-debut.(hint hint). Since the original song is only like a minute and a half and Mnet told them they were allowed 2 minutes she added a dance break. Despite the small mistake at the end I think she did a good job and got a fair score. I feel like most of her down votes came during the dance break section because most of the other contestants can't claim to be a better rapper than Yuki but many of them are main dancers and can easily justify a downvote when comparing their dancing to hers.
Sangah - I'm not sure if she knew Yeeun was in the show when she picked her songs but I don't think the song choices worked out for her. Also I would have liked her to promote some of Lightsum's music instead of just doing a Cube medley as Yeoreum put it. I liked her in the snap performance more.
Yeeun - Loved the helicopter reference at the start. I really liked her performance but I'm still not a big fan of Cherry Coke as a song. I'm just hoping for more screen time as she got almost nothing in the first episode.
Chaerin - Bicycle was too difficult of a song for her I think and the performance was a bit of a mess. Again she was good in Snap so I'm looking forward to seeing more from her.
Elly - it also reminded me of road to kingdom. Both Golden Child's performance and the Boyz Shangri-La performance as that also incorporated the moonlight sonata. I thought her performance was fine. I'd maybe give her 7 or 8 upvotes.
JooE - She impressed me on Second World so I know she can sing. I don't think Sunmi's 24 hours was the right song for her. She could have shown off the super sexy concept better with a different song. I respect her for doing this alone and I love her personality but I didn't like this performance.
Hwiseo - My favorite performance of the episode by far. Her live vocals and stage presence and dancing were all great. My only disappointment was that she took off that cool leather jacket with the spikes :) As I mentioned at the start of this essay I think she deserved more than 23 upvotes but it's a competition and I think she couldn't have gotten any more even if she somehow managed to do even better.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank Mnet for the first time ever for introducing me to her cover of Hey Mama! I know you don't take requests so maybe something to enjoy on your own time but damn this girl is incredible. I didn't check out H1-Key before this show but now I have a bias!
I hope someone lets her know that Bora didn't pick her because she was too good and didn't want to have to share the spotlight/main vocal position with her.
Kei - I've loved Kei since the matchmaking episode with Hwasa on Queendom 1. So I expected more from this performance than what we got. With Mnet showing us the first 30 seconds of the performance at the end of the last episode I got it into my head for some that after the opening she was going to switch songs and do something shocking. I love Destiny but I always associate it with Oh My Girl because that's the first time I heard it. I thought Kei did a good job but I wasn't sure why she choose to not sing parts of the song. I complained about Wooyeon not singing half of Taeyeon's song so I'm not going to pretend like I wasn't a little disappointed that Kei didn't sing several parts of her own song. I don't think the dancing was too intense to need to lip sync but what do I know. Part of me wonders if Kei chose to not give it her 100% to be able to show improvement and growth during the show. With Bora I'm worried that she'll struggle to top her first performance since I assume most of the songs Mnet picks for the rounds won't be as vocally challenging as My Sea.
With Snap I think Kei picked it knowing that she would be directly competing against Bora as the main vocalist of each group and I prefer Kei's version of Snap to Boras. I'm rooting for both Bora and Kei because I prefer groups with multiple main vocalists.
The Puzzle Studio Segment - I'm glad you were able to trick yourself into forgetting the lineup :) Watching while already having memorized the lineups from watching both Snap and Charismatic so many times definitely drained any suspense out of it for me. I enjoyed seeing the reasoning behind why they picked who they did. I loved how Bora heard Snap and was like oh it's a rap heavy song so I'm going to take all 3 main rappers so the other team can't have any.
I appreciated Dohwa's attitude when picked since it's just a different team. Calling it the Drop team doesn't actually mean anything. It's just team 2. Also with Bora not choosing Kei and Hwiseo the drop team still has a good chance at winning. As a plory I appreciated Bora recognizing Yuki's talent.
Overall with the teams I'm very happy the ranks didn't play too much into it. All 4 teams have someone from tier 4 and 3 teams have someone from tier 1 so there was a good mix. It makes me feel like Bora and Jiwon were thinking this through instead of just taking all the 1's and 2's and calling it a day.
Top 7: Yeeun, Yeoreum, Yuki, Nana, Kei, Bora, and Jiwon
Hopefully with the individual performances over I'll be able to stop writing an essay on every episode :)
Thank you so much for the reaction as always and I look forward to next week!
Jared Mathews
2023-06-25 20:03:54 +0000 UTC
These point system are about as useful as DBZ / DB GT power levels.
KyrainMcLeod
2023-06-25 19:18:08 +0000 UTC
I loved how both strategic Bora and Jiwon were when thinking about their picks and drops.
For Bora it was more of who do I need to help complete this song and if I choose this person we may clash since we have similar skills.
For Jiwon it was more who were the charismatic (bold or confident) performers that catched her eye and vocals.
Justin Beasley
2023-06-25 18:49:49 +0000 UTC
Thank you for still getting the reaction done today despite the neighbors construction! I appreciate that you had to adjust your schedule to make time for us.
Jared Mathews
2023-06-25 18:48:30 +0000 UTC
What a fun reaction. Thanks! Lol you forgetting you already knew the lineup was great. It's easy to get so into the tension that the show builds up.
If some performances feel short, it's probably because mnet cut them short. The full cam videos have the whole thing, so for example, there's a whole minute more of 28 Reasons by Soeun (the girl who covered Seulgi)
Hwiseo also took me by surprise. Both of the H1-KEY girls did, actually. I'd never checked out their music until now, so I'm glad they're in the show
Miru is so incredible. She's the unexpected contestant that has me falling for her
Mnet also released a ten minute video of the first groups getting to the Puzzle Studio building and hanging out. It's cute and sweet
Thank you for uploading the episode today despite having difficulties. I'd been looking forward to watching your reaction for it all week, so thank you so much for your hard work :D
Aegiey
2023-06-25 18:30:54 +0000 UTC
Tier one was almost what i predicted i just hope than next time Kei will move up again and i want to see Miru and Juri at least on a Tier 2
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 18:29:50 +0000 UTC
Kei great as expected deserve many up vote but still less good than Bora .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 18:14:29 +0000 UTC
Hwiseo great surprise nobody i'am sure predicted a resulte that good . nothing to said she great let's see where how she can grow .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 18:08:24 +0000 UTC
Wow I cant imagine the pressure some of them have, as a fan I'd much rather have a fun showcase of their talents and mixing into new teams, like Girl's Re-verse.
bravemoomoo
2023-06-25 18:06:48 +0000 UTC
JOEE first so much respect for her to continue her career without any manager or staf since the disband of Momoland . but i thin k she got lot of downvote because despite the fact than many girls said than Joee is sexy ( because of her very short outfit ) in fact Joee is well know and popular for being bubbly , fun and Cute with her pigtail and her baby face . seeing her like that look like a dissonence in a matrix . not every body can kill a sexy concept even some very popular idols . that why i thin got a manager could be necessary for this kind of reason . it's good to be free to do what you want but she's not free she seems unleash .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 18:01:51 +0000 UTC
after that they became carzy harsh the festival of review bombing Elly ,Chaerin got to many undeserve downvote .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 17:57:06 +0000 UTC
DG if you want react on LABOUM and made a spotlight episode i think you will enjoy they're last songs at the end of the career Laboum got mature or dark songs . like BETWEEN US ,TURN IT ON
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 17:50:06 +0000 UTC
yes we got that every year on military some GG who struggle to be on top made they're career performing in various base in a country some groups became very popular thanks to the support of the soldiers . usualy the GG who perfomre are the most "sexy" Girls day , Sistar ,Brave girls ,Fiestar ,Besties ,9muses ,EXID but sometime a cute group make an huge impact on soldier . during they're era Laboum and Lovelyz got a same concept so they end as a rival .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 17:46:53 +0000 UTC
HAEIN first i use to love laboum i was in military during they're era i see groups like Girls day ,Laboum , Exid a lot on military. Haein is cool i 'am sad than she left the show after that . she didn't deserve that low vote her song was quit good and Journey to atlantis was a very popular songs back in a day like "Rollin " for Brave Girls .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 17:42:39 +0000 UTC
Yeeun will be for sure in a final line up . mostly because i think she's the most versatile girls on a show she can nailed any kind of concept the girl crush concept fit her but she can be also very cute and shy , or very feminine with her song Barbie deserve all upvote .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 17:35:40 +0000 UTC
Yuki she forgot one line of her lyrics but she did a great job , she as a great stage presence and her song is great . to me she deserve 15 upvotes . DG purple kiss cameback with a new performance video call LOVE IS DIE if you got time to react on it one day that will be cool .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 17:26:29 +0000 UTC
Miru got a great song and voice but she look a little be nervous and her dance look like she as a bug . again i know but i will said that for all of them it's not an amzing performance but that don't deserve less than 10 up votes .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 17:18:14 +0000 UTC
yop that why i love Miru so much i loved her in produce 48 in a blink of eyes . Bora is super nice but Miru this girl is an angel in leather jacket .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 17:14:14 +0000 UTC
nop DG her name is Seoyeon not like our girl from (g)idle . but don't worry i'am horrible with name to . and many people are like us . she did great despite the fact than she never had a peirod of training . she didn't deserve less than 10 up vote . they're way to harsh .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 17:07:08 +0000 UTC
Soojin deserve to me maybe 16 up votes her version of Flower was so cool.
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 17:04:18 +0000 UTC
no DG i think we don't need to find a reason for why this girl down vote another one . sometime they got legit reason but most of the time they just downvote an potential rival or threat for them .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 17:00:21 +0000 UTC
I agree with you DG i want a see somebody cover a Dreamcatcher songs i never see that in any survival show or show since they're debut and i watch pretty much all show .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 16:56:18 +0000 UTC
Yeonhee performance was lit she deserve more up vote she did a great job ,choose a great song and can manage her shoes malfunction .
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 16:50:43 +0000 UTC
I have often defended MNET for their "editing" but what I hate with them is the fact of setting up rules that can create tensions. when Bora and Jiwon went to select their team it was not necessary to mark Pick and DROP they don't want to drop anyone they just choose a team. the same it is not necessary that the girls are the list of people who have downvoted them. it doesn't change anything in the end because the girls know what they're getting into.
the girls completely lost all objectivity after the first 12/13 performances / I think a lot of girls downvote girls who could be threats to them. even Bora got tougher. I think the girls realize it too but despite the fact that they are idols they are the least legitimate to vote because they cannot do it in a completely objective way. since they are in competition
fabrice maire
2023-06-25 16:35:08 +0000 UTC
Yuri is a mood maker like many japanese idols i think that could be great if she end in a final line up .