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7th Battle at Sullust Infobox

I don't think there's been one of these since Columex. Had a bit of fun, and frustration, doing this again. Each marker represents 5 ships.

 

7th Battle at Sullust Infobox

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Big sad the RR of this story is down. Right in the middle of my 20th reread. Probably a site error. Nvm It's back up.

Ryan

Usually on Sunday.

EnderScroll

When is the next chapter?

Rainz Pourz

But they seemws to have taken prisoners. "The Republic would not find out about the defeat until three days later, when Anakin Skywalker’s Open Circle Fleet arrived at the Sullust System to find nothing but orbital debris, senderless distress signals, and no sign of either fleet."

windoverwaves

Its because the full recorded name of the battle in the registry is the Seven Skirmishes at Sullust. It can also be the Seven Battles at Sullust, the former has that sweet sweet alliteration going on.

elsicava

Despite what the card says, I feel this was more of a battle than a skirmish. It was clearly planned and premeditated after all. Not to mention it required the commitment of a majority of Rain's forces.

William M.

I am thinking the data cards tied into a ships sensors and activated when certain events happened. For example rain leading the charge out of the death spiral would be easily noticed by the rest of the fleet. He just needed to break out of the loop at the right moment and lead the fleet where his preset orders would have the best effect.

EnderScroll

There was (ostensibly) no communication at all during the battle though - the orders were preset from the data cards. It could be a probabilistic thing? Especially since Rain probably predicted that they would be attempting to maneuver around them, the data cards could execute once the chaotic spiral was in a "correct enough" configuration.

Michael K

Damn my basic math was off, I should really get ample sleep time and stop binging stories like a book addict.

Flash Red

558-550=8 bro/sis. I believe all are taken prisoner to maintain operational security. Given away by last chapter's line about Anakin finding only senderless distress signals and no sign of both fleets. Wonder what happened to all the wrecks. Probably accelerated and thrown into the sun or something, no time to salvage.

syu

No, it says the republic had 558k spacers before the fight and 550k died in combat. So that means 58k managed to survive. I’m guessing we’ll find out next chapter how many were taken prisoner.

Flash Red

8k survived, I'd say most, if not all of them were captured

Dopamine Coma

So an easy way to figure out a semi accurate tonnage is to take its given length and plug it into this formula for its tonnage... new ship tonnage = 40(MIL) * (ship length in meters / 1600m ) ^ 3. Is this accurate? not really but what it will do is keep all your tonnage properly scaled.

Delakar

As per Wikipedia infobox formatting, Engaged means actively participating in battle, and Present means... well, present, but not fighting.

elsicava

At least the ISD has an actual source... which looks to be an obscure comic run. So pretty much par for the course for this story. I'll just roughly scale that up and down. Thanks a bunch.

elsicava

Found another source that said 40Mil T for the twice as large imperial S.D. so per square cube law a normal one would be roughly 10mil T. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Destroyer#Imperial_Star_Destroyer

Delakar

So I did find one source and as there are no official design info like that I'd say these would be good enough. Victory -1 class star destroyer 1.15Mil tons. https://archives.swc-empire.com/view/Victory_Star_Destroyer_I

Delakar

I am pretty sure the entire fleet consist of 350 ships. Of which 200 went out of the asteroid field to battle Alrix's fleet while 150 stayed behind to protect the auxiliaries.

syu

I am going to call the formation the "Death Hydra". One; because it sounds cool. Two; because of the way the formation works when viewed from a distance. And three; to act as a psychological fear factor whenever a commander sees it in the future.

SpaceFan839

It would be funny if Rain snagged Ozzel as a POW. Having a Dinner with scene with the enemy commander would be a power move.

EnderScroll

I assume tuff was devoted fully to tracking the attack group commanders. Aside from attack group 5 all other attack groups would have left the death spiral together and just broke off accordingly. Then again there is Rain’s checklist. He could have just toggled the preset orders remotely when the time was right.

EnderScroll

Uh probably very few lol

Quentin Johnson

The 200 ships are all the ships of Rain's 28th Mobile Fleet combined and the remnants of the CIS forces from before Operation Storm Door, after the losses during the first 6 skirmishes in Sullust. The 150 ships are all those that sallied forth from the asteroid belt to engage Task Force Conciliator, because Rain left Jorm's auxiliaries behind in the belt and Krett's slow carriers with them as a defensive force (and because slow, fat Lucrehulks likely don't do well in the Hydra Spiral or whatever the formation is called)

FuschiaKnight

Momentum and thruster direction one assumes, she would have to flip the ships whilst being attacked to be able to escape at fast enough of a pace.

Basil Harpham

I wanted to ask, how did Rain ensure that each division CO's flagship was in the correct place to intercept their targets when they received their orders? I assume the orders had a heft does of conditionals and such, but were they dependent on Kronprinz being part of the mass that followed Dark Rival, and only a handful of ships following Havoc, and how did they ensure that Kronprinz was being followed by Tionese warships that could keep up with its charge?

FuschiaKnight

50 stayed with the auxiliaries and it was a decisive victory

Basil Harpham

Wonder how many of those 58k republic spacers were captured

Flash Red

Question: is there a reason alrix couldn't withdraw above or below the plane of the ecliptic? It's a 3 dimensional space, not 2. Don't get me wrong, I love the battles, just curious why Rain seems to be the only one with an understanding that up and down are options.

Trevor Perry

Can someone tell me what the difference in the ships involved on Rain's side means. It starts with 200 ships and then mentions 150 present. But only 17 are shown as casualties

Mad Max

Anakin and everyone else will have not a single clue where rain went

Yod

Wow so Alarix is dead and Ozzel is MIA presumably a POW and Rain only lost 17 ships total. Well another excellent battle for him to add to his reputation I suppose and this was before Anakin could reinforce Alrix. I wonder now if Anakin will be busy chasing Rain around the core while Kenobi is busting chasing the other fleet around the core.

Confused

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elsicava

Alrix confirmed KIA but Kendal Ozzel MIA? 👀 I wonder if this telegraphing that Ozzel survived and is now Rain’s prisoner, and we’ll see his POV for the upcoming operation.

Vancouver

What tools did you use to make this? I didn't notice until I re-read the chapter that Rain literally lead from the front, being aboard the Chimeratica the whole time.

Cosimo Yap

Probably scattered across escape pods. I doubt the Confederate fleet had the time or desire or comb throw the debris to take POWs. Not when Starlance is a go. Besides, there's gotta be *some* survivors Anakin can pick up so we can get a Loyalist response POV.

Viv15

yeah i would, but Star Wars (even the cross-sections) isn't exactly forthcoming with the tonnage of its ships. And honestly I don't know the ballpark tonnage figure of an interstellar battleship either. If you got ideas or references from other sci-fi series, hit me up.

elsicava

Sweet space jebus, I'd forgotten how badly the republic was outnumbered. You might want to make up numbers for total fleet tonage and causality tonnage. But from the Pic alone 200 v 79 it would be really easy to be confused why anyone would pick that fight. Infact that could be something the politicians, sith, and civilians could get really upset about. "If you only had 79 ships why the hell would you engage a fleet of over 200."

Delakar

No, it's just that Separatist warships are hilariously automated. Providences only need 900 crew, and Lucrehulks 350, and Munificents 200 crew. The 180,000 figure is actually the original amount, but that looked really weird when compared to the massive Republic crews, so I added some droids to make it more even. Venators on the other hand need 7,400 crew. The droids I added only include battle droids acting in capacity as spacers, which the Republic has none. Also keep in mind that the 28th Mobile has a lot more small ships, with Taskforce Conciliator is almost all capital ships.

elsicava

The spacer disparity is pretty stark when divided out over the ships. Especially since the Republic ships would also have droids that aren't listed in the casualties.

Michael K

Quick Question: Wouldn't some of the Republic losses be clone legions and not spacers?

Aaron V.

nope. I don't know how that got in there. Edit: fixed it

elsicava

Thanks so much for the visual aide! Though your description for the battle was actually incredible good and easy to imagine 👍 just something minor, did you mean to have „Battle of Lützen“ in the Card?

Sekander

You mother mirth I thought the new super supportive dropped. Very nice work on the battle write up though love to see them

LurkerFrontCenter

Maybe.

Ambrose

Some spacers survived!

Ambrose


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