DITW 15-3: Chargogagogmanchogagogcharbunagunggamog
Added 2024-07-27 14:52:29 +0000 UTCThe benzo sank in and removed his dread on the Unionville Main Street. The Qashqai’s nav screen showed a right turn was imminent.
Fucking Unionville. That’s where she bought a house. Quaint, historical; ancient trees with the yellowed fall leaves. White picket fences, brick Victorian houses, lawns, porches. Like a fuckin’ Lifetime movie set. Unreal. He drove north on Main from 7, leaves fluttering, flashing their bright color on a sunny October day. So many times he and Kimmy had come here to eat lunch, back when they were young, happy, and in love. It was their Gilmore Girls era, when they binged the show and realized Stars Hollow wasn’t really in Connecticut, it was a short drive from Ajax to the historic village in Unionville.
He turned right after passing the United church with it’s tall gray spire, heading down a side street off Main, a quiet cul-de-sac shy of the village. And then, there it was. Kimmy’s house. A farm-style with wraparound porch; a cute Victorian with bay windows and dove-colored siding, cedar shakes up on the gables, the whole plot buffered with yellow maple canopy, gardens, and fat, billowy shrubs only beginning to go bare for the winter.
Two million dollars, easy. More. Ten grand a year in property taxes. One of the nicest main streets in all of the Toronto region. Maybe all of Ontario. The best of schools, the best of restaurants and activities and cafes and little shops. Beautiful. Heart-sinkingly beautiful. If she hadn’t fucked Devlin, if she hadn’t bought those ridiculous clothes and the shoes and that suit for him, if, if, if... This house was better than anything they’d dreamed of.
But then, there was the man in the photo.
A young guy in black pants and white shirt was closing up a Sprinter van in the driveway, the catering company packed up and ready to go. Josh left room for the truck to head out before he drove into the driveway and took the spot. He wondered if Meyer had enjoyed the food. Since he’d set his phone to Airplane, he wouldn’t know. He didn’t want Meyer in his head before he began the hardest moment of his life. Meyer could say the wrong thing and he might take off out of here so fast he’d leave black streaks on Kimmy’s driveway.
It had been too long. Way too long. There was a baby involved and that baby just might be his.
With that, he grabbed the little gift bag from his passenger seat and stretched a leg out of the car. Rose then to stand, but hated the colorful gift bag. He removed the gifts and tucked them inside his motocross jacket instead.
The front door seemed a mile away.
*
Thank god it was Sophie who answered the door.
“Hey, kid. Long time no see.”
“Uncle Josh!” Sophie grabbed his hand. “Come and see my room.” He wasn’t even in the foyer yet and Sophie was amped. He felt a sick jealousy that it was Kimmy who’d provided her with a living space so exciting she acted this way. Usually the little girl was a little more reserved.
“Did you eat all the desserts or something?” he joked, stumbling into the foyer. A vacuum ran somewhere deeper inside the house.
And what a house.
“Wow,” he whispered, mouth tucked in a glum line. The place was sleek despite the historical aspect; minimalist, maple flooring, ochre-painted walls, modern furniture.
“You have to take your boots off, Uncle Josh,” Sophie instructed him, showing him by pointing to an assembly of fine footwear along the wall. Sophie was all dressed up for today’s event. Someone had done her hair up in a pretty style, cute little pigtails. She wore a black dress and white socks and black slippers.
As he leaned on the wall and toed off his boots, Sophie poked him in his fat stomach. “What’s in there?”
Not a fat stomach, it was the gifts he’d brought. He told her, “Gifts, Sophie.”
“For me?”
“I get you gifts all the time,” he said and booped her nose.
“Okay,” she said, grabbing his hand again now that his boots were off. “Come and see my room.”
A far too familiar voice from a side room adjoining the hall beyond the foyer: “Give him a minute, Sophie.” Kimmy Chang, calm and assured; instructive.
Josh looked to the left and saw her. The sight was like a jab in the stomach.
Kimmy stood in the center of a home office; tall and impossibly thin; glamorous yet subdued. Fucking beautiful face with those dark, sly eyes, her hair pulled back. She dressed all in black; black skirt, black turtleneck, long thin legs clad in black leggings.
They stared but didn’t speak. Neither showed an expression.
Kimmy said to Sophie, “Let him sit. After we’re done you can take him to show him your room.”
“Okay,” Sophie said, slump-shouldered and dispirited. But there was another little girl her Uncle Josh was here to see today.
“I can’t wait to see your room,” Josh said, placing a hand on Sophie’s tiny shoulder.
God, she was such a good little girl; all Meyer’s, a human his stupid-ass cousin could live his life for.
Sophie showed him a goofy grin and then she was trotting off deeper into the house, headed toward wherever the vacuum was working.
Then there were two.
And he wished the vacuum would shut the fuck up.
Kimmy crossed her arms over her slender chest, and for the first time ever he felt robbed of seeing her carrying a child; seeing her long frame host another being planted deep inside her, her belly expanding into a taut melon ready to crack its rind as it ripened. When she’d lost their baby in the spring she’d had the smallest paunch. He longed for those days of harrowing failure when everything was so simple because there were only the two of them. Maybe a deep-planted seed had better opportunity to grow.
He stopped the dread. His hands sweated, turned to fists, and his teeth squeaked as he clenched his jaw against betrayal and hurt and the sharpest knife anyone had sunk into him.
Kimmy raised her chin, eyeing him. “I’m so happy you came, Josh.”
He nodded, looked around, not knowing what to do with himself. It would be so fucking easy to toss his gifts for this baby that was supposed to be his onto the desk with the computer, then skedaddle the fuck out of here, get the fuck out of hoity-toity Unionville, blast home and get into sweatpants, play some Xbox with Meyer and order a pizza. Just check the fuck out.
He sighed like a man enduring a hardship. “How was your housewarming?”
Kimmy nodded, appraising her afternoon. “It was good. Thank you.”
“All your renos done on time?”
Kimmy looked around the room, shrugging. “It went well, Josh. And, yes, we got everything done on time.”
“Sophie tells me what’s going on.”
Kimmy smiled and the sight hurt his heart. He didn’t show it. “I know she does.”
But now he stood silent, not wanting to compliment her on her new house, not wanting to give her any satisfaction for moving on so well without him.
Kimmy’s smile faded, and she assumed a more serious expression. “This is a big day.”
“I know,” he said. It had nothing to do with the house, it had everything to do with a tiny human who Kimmy hosted in her belly for a little over nine months. His hand slipped inside his leather jacket and pulled out his present. He waggled it for Kimmy.
The sight of the teddy bear made her smile and her eyes went glossy. She approached him and he fought the urge to run out of the house. She took the teddy bear and looked it over.
“Alpaca,” he said. “It’s made from alpaca fur. He’s wearing a, a charro outfit. A horse rider. I bought it in Baja.”
Kimmy held it to her chest, smiling, eyes looking sad and watery, tucking down her chin to clamp the big teddy bear to her. “It’s perfect, Josh,” she said.
He slipped a hand into his jacket and produced another item: a handmade maraca.
Kimmy took it, the beans shaking inside the shell and producing the familiar sound. Kimmy shook her head, trying to clear the sadness from her eyes. “Great, Josh,” she said, overwhelmed, passing them back to him. “You can give them to her yourself.”
And suddenly it got very hard to breathe. His knees jellied and the room wobbled. Kimmy passed the gifts back to him and he tucked them back into his jacket. Maybe eh wouldn’t even take the jacket off. Maybe he would just do this part and then leave. The knot bloomed in his throat again and he couldn’t swallow. No words came and all he could do was nod.
Kimmy frowned and held his upper arm. “Are you okay?”
His body seized and he was hyper-aware of her hand on him. “Fine,” he said, tight and hard, but it was better than muteness.
“I’m really glad you came,” she said and let her hand fall from his arm.
Josh pinched the bridge of his nose, muttering, “It’s like a dream. I feel... I feel like I’m dreaming.”
“Come to the kitchen. We can get you some water.”
He shook his head and took a deep breath, hating the dread and anxiety robbing him of masculinity in this powerful moment.
“Come with me,” Kimmy said, walking past him, smiling kindly, still hugging herself, padding the hardwood hallway of her home in slipper-feet. The vacuum was off now, and when they entered the kitchen Hyun was there with Sophie. Sophie was sliding the vacuum into a broom closet, Hyun wore yellow rubber gloves, wiping down the counters. Her eyes dashed up to meet his.
And he recognized the look on hyun’s face. It was the expression he’d seen when he looked at his mirror reflection in a hotel room in Rome, wondering what the fuck was wrong with him. Dread, fear, worry. He was no threat to Hyun. Unless...
He and Meyer had joked together late at night playing video games having a few brewskis, saying how Kimmy and Hyun made a good couple. They would keep a good house, they’d joke. Meyer would never say it outright but would always insinuate that Hyun had a crush on Kimmy. They would laugh at their own predicament, saying those two women of ours running an efficient household and here’s you and me—and then they would snicker about the state of their apartment with the beer cans and the pizza boxes and the game controllers and remote controls. But now it was really happening.
And here was the deadbeat dad, come to be the hero; Hyun was the one who stayed with Colleen during the day when Kimmy went to work. In Hyun’s eyes the once valorous young man married to Kimmy had been reduced to a bum. And maybe a threat.
He nodded in recognition, wanly smiling. “Hi, Hyun.”
Hyun smiled like all was well. “Hi, Josh. So glad you made it.”
Kimmy asked Hyun to get him a glass of water, but Sophie interjected. “I’ll get it!” All three watched Sophie get a glass from a cupboard using a chair, then going to the fridge’s water dispenser to fill it. She brought it around the island, saying, “Can I make Uncle Josh my ice cream for dessert?”
Kimmy smiled, watching Sophie, her face downturned, the long tendon in her neck standing out against her tawny skin. He knew what it felt like to kiss her there.
Hyun said, “She has an ice cream maker.”
Josh accepted the glass Sophie handed him, surprised now to feel the dread had eased. He smiled too, saying, “She’s told me all about the ice cream maker.”
Kimmy held Sophie against her side, rubbing her shoulder. “I’ve also told her a hundred times today she can make you ice cream.”
Sophie said, “Maple and coffee and walnut. All your favorites.”
Josh sipped the water, then drank half the glass all at once. He put the glass on the island counter. “I can’t wait, Sophie.”
Kimmy said, “Do you want something else? Something stronger? I think the caterer left some beer.” She looked to Hyun and Hyun made like she was ready to go check if Josh wished it.
“No,” he said, shaking his head, feeling guilty his wife thought he might want alcohol to get him through this monumental moment. “No, I don’t need beer.”
Kimmy looked around, no one else saying anything. “Okay. Come sit in the other room with me, Josh.”
She left Sophie, turned and headed out the other side of the kitchen, to a large family room at the back of the house that looked out over the small backyard. The lawn was mowed, the gardens clipped and trimmed; someone had bundled up the more vulnerable trees with burlap to protect them from the oncoming winter.
Kimmy gestured to a spotless ivory leather couch and he sat down in the corner. Kimmy sat catty corner in a matching padded chair.
Josh’s heart pounded a hundred miles an hour. He rubbed his sweaty palms on his knees. “I should have come before.”
“It’s okay, Josh,” Kimmy said. “You should have. But you’re here now.”
He took a few breaths to steady himself, proud of the strength he conjured to endure this moment.
Kimmy said, “Do you think you’re ready?”
He nodded.
Kimmy reached over and held his hand. Her touch was warm and gentle and he felt his eyes swell with emotion. He looked down to regard their combined hands and noticed for the first time since he arrived that she wore her wedding ring. He thumbed it. Held her hand a little tighter.
Kimmy called out to Hyun over her shoulder. “Hyun, can you bring in Colleen?”
Comments
Reliable Josh! His own epithet at last!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-08-13 01:04:22 +0000 UTC"The last image of Josh as she left the room would stay with her forever." The conditional...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-30 00:02:31 +0000 UTCJohn, two questions: (1) Red Sox or Yankees? and (2) does the answer depend on which side of the Lake you hail from?
Donkatsu
2024-07-29 17:46:01 +0000 UTCI’ll have to check that out. I have seen a video on that mall in Niagara Falls though.
JL23
2024-07-29 15:33:16 +0000 UTCOmfg, I almost choked on my coffee, JL! 😂
Kat
2024-07-29 15:30:09 +0000 UTCJL, have you ever heard of a website called deadmalls.com? It was the original website for this kind of stuff. It’s something to see all the retail chains from my childhood that are gone now, and that was from years ago. I’ve been inside a couple dead malls. There was one near where “Love Canal” was in Niagara Falls. All that was left there was a Sears and a few random stores. Everything else was closed. We also had one near where I live, a smaller mall that has since been demolished in favour for a big storage facility. It was super creepy going in there before it shut down a few years ago. Barely anything was occupied. Years ago there used to be videos on YouTube of Mike Tyson’s abandoned mansion in Ohio, as well as the old, Jim and Tammy Baker, abandoned amusement park Heritage USA. That one had videos of the hotel, too.
Kat
2024-07-29 15:29:32 +0000 UTCI used to love Marks & Spencer. We had one at our mall, too. We also had a Frontier Fruit & Nut kiosk where my mom would buy me carob covered raisins. They were like Glossettes. Remember those? Lol
Kat
2024-07-29 15:11:42 +0000 UTCIt's a dark ending for Grimey, hopefully this is not in the cards for Josh. KT, leave Josh alone, he just wants to go back to his mansion and eat his lobster! 😀
JL23
2024-07-29 14:50:59 +0000 UTCI didn’t vote for the “bully” option at the start of this and I could never have imagined how obsessed I would become. DITW was such a welcome diversion during Covid lockdown and I spent long hours dwelling on how this was going to go down. Thank you KT for sharing this engrossing story and creating characters that are so real and I have come to care so much about. Like Kat, I’m a little embarrassed. Lol. Like others, I am saddened to see Josh’s state and see that their breakup was so hurtful to them both with so many loose ends, but their communication was always terrible! I have to confess that I have trouble with the realization that Josh has had no contact with Colleen as Kimmy has seemed confident Josh is the father. Despite all that has happened, Josh does not seem like the type to abandon his pregnant wife and baby. Kimmy has obviously landed on her feet, professionally at any rate. I want to believe her success has been at Devlin’s expense. She hinted at a revenge scheme and I hope she turned the tables on him. I was never worried about the embezzlement. The Stone brokerage would never expose itself to the embarrassment over so little money. Perhaps the theft was just an opening round of Kimmy’s revenge. I have one lingering question from the opening of the saga. Did Josh ask Devlin to fuck Kimmy in at Tiffiney’s picnic table? Or, did Devlin just put that into Josh’s drunken head? I never understood why Devlin let that go after “reminding” Josh that Josh asked for it in the early chapters. Why would he not keep that going? Thank you again KT. I have checked your Patreon almost every day for years and now feel a part of my like is almost over. Hard to believe, but looking forward what comes next.
HTO
2024-07-29 14:47:10 +0000 UTCOmg, Frank Grimes….or Josh Grimes. Hilarious reference and totally spot on. 😂
Kat
2024-07-29 14:35:10 +0000 UTCDefinitely. I could caveat the above to "how well Kimmy is SEEMINGLY doing." There's certainly going to be another side to all of this, likely associated with what all these material trappings of wealth have cost in ways other than financially.
Glaucon
2024-07-29 14:25:19 +0000 UTCThere has definitely been that focus in recent books, Glaucon, as well as revelations about Kimmy and resentments she's harbored toward people with money and status since a young child. But it felt like all of these things left her mind the moment she found out Josh fell in the water. It felt like she became laser focused on avenging Josh specifically, but the conversation with Aaron Berg seemed to change her attitude to having to run away from Josh to protect him. If she has indeed achieved some level if success, one would think she'd still want Josh to share in it. She's bought a house that Hyun and Sophie are living in, yet nothing we've seen for Josh, the man she's described as the most important person in her life and the only person who really matters. There has to be a reason for that. Either Josh has proven himself unworthy in her eyes of support, which I really doubt unless he's done something really awful. Even if he's rebuffed attempts by her to have him go see the baby, I can't see how she would take that as a reason to write him off. She knows why her actions would make Josh reticent to see Colleen. So it must be there's a reason why she cannot share this largesse with Josh, we just don't know why yet.
JL23
2024-07-29 14:22:31 +0000 UTCI do! I am! I love Lucy too! If she's ever allowed to grow up she'd probably catch Devlin's ever roving eye! Have they ever done a grown Charlie Brown on the telly! After all nothing's sacred! I'm merely stating what I believe to be a statement of fact!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-29 14:11:14 +0000 UTCFair enough, Glaucon! I withdraw my reservations, you obviously didn't make your comment lightly. As a graduate of the English working class I am ever alert to class even, or especially, in countries where it is less... shall we say, less intrusive. I love your reply. I especially appreciate your conclusion,
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-29 14:01:11 +0000 UTCBill, I kind of know the feeling. I sometimes feel like I need a "Kimmy" vaccination to deal with all the ways she torments poor Josh, either intentionally or unintentionally. Sometimes it feels like Kimmy is Homer Simpson and Josh is Frank Grimes...or "Grimey" as he liked to be called. That's a reference only someone who is a big fan of The Simpsons will probably understand, but it's apt if you do know it. Basically, its Kimmy as Lucy always pulling the football away from Charlie Brown when he's about to kick it, probably a better known reference.
JL23
2024-07-29 13:49:48 +0000 UTCYou’re telling me there’s still a chance!
JL23
2024-07-29 13:25:38 +0000 UTCWe didn’t have either of those where I lived in the States. Marks I know is a pretty famous British store, makes sense you’d have them in Canada since you’ve never fully detached yourself from the chains of British colonialism. 😂 Unrelated to the story, but one of my YouTube “rabbit holes” is watching videos of people walking through “dead malls.” Basically malls that are still open, but where 75% of the stores are closed. It’s amazing how many department stores that were around and thriving 20-30 years ago now no longer exist. We’ve really become an online shopping world. The thing I loved as a kid is a lot of the department stores had a restaurant or cafe in them. My favorite was JCPenney, you could walk through the store then grab a burger and fries in their restaurant. Memories….
JL23
2024-07-29 13:16:08 +0000 UTCWhile it’s always been present to a degree (along with many other themes), I do think it’s become a greater focus in the last few books. Their juxtaposed economic status and Devlin’s posturing about it have been a major character trait of his from book one. But in the last few books Kimmy’s internal monologue has shifted from a general annoyed resentment along the lines of “THIS fuckin guy,” not really any different than her criticisms of other parts of his personality, to a greater fixation on “we/I deserve this, not him,” and her post hoc analysis of her initial pursuit of him seems to tie that a lot to this aspect (which is new information to the reader that imo colours everything that comes after it). This is alongside the more recent revelations of taking the money from the company, detailed descriptions of big house purchases and what that signifies, the background about Kimmy and shoplifting and anxieties around class, and all the machinations of Devlin’s business scheme, who’s signing what and who’s funding what, Kimmy's secret plans, etc. which is not AS MUCH an element of say the first half of the series. Even and especially now the focus on how well Kimmy is doing specifically financially and the emotional effect it has on Josh. I think the class/financial status theme has always been present but has taken centre stage over time in a way that, in a different version of the story, could have instead come to more heavily meditate on say, high school memories and trauma and how formative years shape us, instead.
Glaucon
2024-07-29 13:09:48 +0000 UTCYep, I worked in an Eatons book department when I was in high school. I remember Woolworths too. Not to brag, but my mall had a Marks & Spencer.
KT Morrison
2024-07-29 12:34:30 +0000 UTCThere's always a gag in the middle... the peril of talking when you're eating! The first one is optional!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-29 10:42:15 +0000 UTCThe wee dram... all drams become 'wee' no matter what their size!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-29 10:37:43 +0000 UTCThere is no either or in life! Just eat what you're given... And (to help with you're digestion) think of all the poor children who are worse off than you! This is how Swift (not Taylor) got the felicitous idea for 'A Modest Proposal.'
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-29 10:34:16 +0000 UTCThe last few books, Glaucon! The siren call that is the obscenity that is Devlin was not just his club dick! That just gave home prisoned cute little Kimmy concussion!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-29 10:16:05 +0000 UTCLifestyle! I hate the fucking mirage of affluence! That wavering ripple of light that's the only thing that sustains it!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-29 10:06:18 +0000 UTC'Route 66' was still on TV when my family got our first TV, it seems Kerouac considered suing for 'misappropriation' of the "On The Road" story but did not.
Steve McCarty
2024-07-29 10:03:19 +0000 UTCJack Kerouac a handsome, tortured poet/author was of French-Canadian ancestry whose only child was a daughter, Jan, whom 'he acknowledged as his daughter after a blood test confirmed it nine years later' (re: Wikipedia). I daydream about these people all the time. Let's see Kimmy's POV, will she respond to Jack's .. er, I meant Josh's, suffering artist 'make over ' and will Jack/Josh 'man up' after seeing his beautiful daughter and reject the seemingly destined slow, painful suicide by the 'dram'?
Steve McCarty
2024-07-29 08:32:56 +0000 UTCCorrect spelling… Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg This is your side. That side is your side. And no one’s side in the middle. I still own a farm there.
John
2024-07-29 02:55:42 +0000 UTCOdd - seeing name of my hometown lake in the chapter title…
John
2024-07-29 02:26:02 +0000 UTCLets not forget Kimmy has never, except for during her pregnancy we might guess, a notorious time of hormonal surges and ebbs, been one not to fight her own corner. She seems to be playing the respectable middle class competent professional woman, but what has been her cover story about Josh? Has she brazened it out with a web of innocuous lies and half truths? Or did she throw Josh to the wolves to stop herself from looking bad? That would further complicate matters between her and Josh, if that were possible. Have Josh's parents had any contact with their daughter-in-law about their grandchild? Or are they Canadian racists who think Kimmy is a wily descendant of Fu Manchu and/or Fin Fang Foom? Is Josh the black sheep of the family? Is this going to develop into a multigenerational Saga with Disney, Netflix and Amazon fighting over the TV rights... with plagiarised Sergio Leone in the background? Yawn! 'night!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-29 01:00:28 +0000 UTCUnless...
Glaucon
2024-07-28 23:02:51 +0000 UTC"Maybe eh wouldn’t even take the jacket off. Maybe he would just do this part and then leave". Should be..."Maybe he..."
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 21:00:59 +0000 UTCShe also didn’t seem to be surprised at his semi panic attacks throughout. Concerned that he was OK, but not shocked and asking him all sorts of questions as to what was happening. Yes, we didn’t see much in the way of emotion toward Josh from her. It was more stilted politeness and formality. Seeing the gifts toward the baby was the only time. On the face of it, it was an odd reaction to seeing the man you are married to, and still presumably care about, for the first time in a year. Especially considering how they left off the last time they were together in a room. That’s why I’m convinced there’s more to it. Maybe she has one of her emotional masks on as protection, or maybe there are things we will find out shortly that make that kind of reaction make more sense. Since we are privy to Josh’s thoughts we know his stilted interaction was just carefully concealing his true emotions right under the surface. I have to assume it’s the same for her.
JL23
2024-07-28 20:39:48 +0000 UTCThanks KT for everything. You’re the best. Don’t doubt yourself ever. I’m looking forward to whatever comes. Trepidation because I’m invested is all.
Tracey52
2024-07-28 20:31:20 +0000 UTCThat 2nd to last paragraph of yours is crucial, JL. While they both were tip toeing around each other and being distant/unemotional, at least until the very last bit, which was due to Colleen, not Kimmy/Josh, I found it odd that she didn't mention how he looked or the motocross jacket. (Which, as an aside, isn't really a thing, but I'm not going to nitpick KT anymore than I already have on that) You'd think she'd have had a pretty big issue with him taking up riding given how dangerous it can be. Maybe she didn't because it's obvious he did it because of her? Anyway, she also didn't bring up the beard and new look. Which leads me to believe she's been keeping tabs on him. Which begs the question, if she's moved on, why would she do that? So many questions to be answered!
L_S87
2024-07-28 20:28:48 +0000 UTCFrankly, Donkatsu, I quite possibly pursue such negative conjecture to vaccinate myself against whatever fiendish new bug KT has been cobbling together in the laboratory of her modern sterile, freshy scrubbed wine cellar to bypass my sturdy immune system.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 20:26:35 +0000 UTCAs much as I gripe, I still like what you've done with these 3 chapters, KT. Its the perfect mystery we get to slowly have unwrapped for us. For me, the ending can be together or not and both could make sense. While I'm angry at Kimmy for where she's left Josh (forced or not), which is largely driving my desire for him to pick himself up and find a better partner, I am not against a reconciliation. I've wanted that for a long time until seeing what these last 12 months have done. Really, the only way I'll be disappointed is if it goes down the road that I've already said would irritate me. Kimmy getting back with Josh on easy street, where she doesn't have to put forth any effort to get him back. If she's in trouble and Josh rescues her.... I actually think that would be an awesome storyline. But I don't think that rescue should also equal automatic forgiveness. Any scenario of them getting together means Kimmy having a LOT to prove, and mend. With a lot of time associated with such an endeavor. That's the only place I would dislike it. Simply because it doesn't fit the 14 book story of downfall for such an easy recovery. Otherwise, you pull whatever tricks out of your bag you need. I can't wait to see them unveiled.
L_S87
2024-07-28 20:11:29 +0000 UTCTo forestall your asking... a quote from the Net, First I found. From In Praise of the Preterite - by Aurelien In the end, though, beyond the satire, the parody and the conspiracies, the novel impresses most by an unexpected characteristic: compassion. It appears that a distant ancestor of Slothrop once wrote a tract On Preterition, which didn’t endear him to the local religious authorities in New England. Now Preterition, in the chilly Calvinist theology of the day, was the state of those whom God has elected not to save. They are those who are damned from the beginning of time, just as some are predestined to be saved, because God has decided that way. "Gravity's Rainbow" is, in the end, an ode to the Lost, to the Preterite, to those passed over. Pynchon’s sympathy is with the losers of history: there is seldom a positive word about any important historical figure, or any figure of power.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 19:48:27 +0000 UTCYeah, that’d be great! We’d all get a good laugh over how wrong I was. 😂
JL23
2024-07-28 19:31:48 +0000 UTCMy disapproval of Kimmy, D, is not so much her past behaviour, but judging the book by the cover of what she has become, a glamorous Quasimodo who was groomed by a dilettante with a big dick and left unaware that he broke her into his vapid world good and proper... Through worse and improper! I hope her memories of orgasmic nirvana with that dick keep her warm at night! I fear she might ruin the lives of Hyun, Sophie, Colleen and even the forewarned Josh. I feel sorrow for the painted ship on a painted ocean she has become, Josh catches glimpses of the beauty she once shared with him. Yet now she is like some noble woman all decked out in a luxurious Mardi Gras masquerade the very antithesis of the spirit of the fiesta. Trapped in the luxurious hall of mirrors. It breaks my shrivelled heart to see her brought so low, and to see where her unilateral dismissal of Josh has led to and how she has unmanned him in his own eyes. She is not evil. She is preterite... corrupted.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 19:17:07 +0000 UTCThanks for the additional peek behind the curtain, KT. As always, it doesn’t stop me from running to parse the subtext provided (probably one of my biggest flaws, I like to speculate, hopefully it doesn’t annoy you or others here too much.) But your words caused me to challenge my own pre-conceived notions of where this story “needs” to end, and accept that might not be in the cards. And that an ending where Kimmy and Josh are not together could be an honest read of where they’d end up. I go to their personalities. Kimmy is Type A, ambitious, not satisfied with sitting still. Always looking for the next move to advance her lot in life. Better job, better clothes, better house. Josh is more laid back, not unambitious but comfortable in his lot in life, and not necessarily needing more. Happy to do his job, do it well, and come home at night and relax. Nothing wrong with either, if that is what makes you comfortable and happy, then that’s how you should live. The challenge lies when the person you love doesn’t quite share the same traits. Opposites can work together if each are comfortable with the differences, accept the strengths and weakness of each other, and strive to meld together into a greater whole.. If you’re not comfortable, or grow resentful the other person doesn’t see think more like you, then it doesn’t work. There’s evidence to support the first here, but I can’t deny there is also evidence to support the latter with Kimmy/Josh As much as we’ve focused on Devlin, and all the sex, lies and betrayal that came with it, perhaps in the end it won’t be about any of that at all. Maybe all that was just the inciting incidents that lead them both to confront truths about themselves that make them better off apart. I still don’t think either are there, certainly not Josh but not Kimmy either. I still believe she’s fighting to be with Josh somehow. But if it ultimately ends like that, I can see how that’d be honest and how we got there. My only hope would be it’s a mutual revelation and not one that only Kimmy sees. So long as Josh is accepting of that, and in a place to rebuild, I could accept it even if I’d be sad.
JL23
2024-07-28 19:05:23 +0000 UTCNot in Australia, but definitely in the love to visit Australia category. Just have watched a lot of videos on it and seen where they still have K-Mart’s and Woolworth’s there still.
JL23
2024-07-28 18:06:44 +0000 UTCWe had a Woolworth’s here when I was a kid! My mom would take us to the lunch counter they had. Lol Are you in Australia? That’s so cool. I’d love to visit Australia someday, Australia and the UK, but I don’t get out much past the border with New York State. I got too comfortable with the Covid lockdowns, and they have made my shut in tendencies even more “shut in”. 😂
Kat
2024-07-28 17:44:09 +0000 UTCYes, she was manipulated into this position, but she had ulterior motives way back in Book 9. Remember when Hyun and Kimmy went to karaoke, and Hyun sung the Korean love song to Kimmy? She knew Kimmy was married, and pregnant with questionable paternity, but she was still was an active participant in undermining Josh’s marriage. I think she has dread on her face, because seeing Josh in person scares her. She knows that some of his misery is because of her, and she knows that he has no idea what part she’s played in undermining his relationship. I don’t believe that she’s some naive, innocent who has no clue what she’s doing. She’s raising Josh’s child, a child she’s probably become extremely attached to. She’s probably terrified that Josh being there will mean her role in the baby’s life will be diminished, therefore also making her less useful to Kimmy.
Kat
2024-07-28 17:37:14 +0000 UTCI liked dead in a ditch somewhere…jk. Lol
Kat
2024-07-28 17:29:22 +0000 UTCGreat thoughts, as usual, JL. So far Kimmy has done nothing, that we know of, to redeem herself. Right now, Josh is the one that needs to pick himself up and start living again. He may very well end up in a Meyer-type situation where he and Kimmy share custody. He can’t be having panic attacks every time he sees or thinks of her. Josh should be in therapy.
Kat
2024-07-28 17:27:21 +0000 UTCK-Mart bringing me back to my childhood here in the States. Assuming it was the same store as it was here. They still have K-Mart’s in Australia, but not sure if someone just licensed the brand or something. They also have a store called Woolworth’s” there but I don’t think Woolworth’s have existed here in the US for a couple of decades now,.
JL23
2024-07-28 16:09:15 +0000 UTCAw, thank you, KT. This reply from you made my day! I enjoy this place so much, and especially love when you reply to our comments. They are mean on that app, and not very insightful at all. It’s like they never read the description of what you write about. Lol I’m old enough to remember K-Mart, too. I also loved Eatons. It was the big store at local mall when I grew up in the 70s-80’s.
Kat
2024-07-28 16:03:54 +0000 UTCAppearances are deceptive! I work with what I'm given. Or rather... play.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 15:56:12 +0000 UTCThat is great stuff, JL. We'll bookmark this maybe, and discuss it after the series is over.
KT Morrison
2024-07-28 15:55:06 +0000 UTCYeah, there has to be more here we’re not seeing. If there’s not, and Kimmy really has just moved on and no longer wants or needs Josh, then there really isn’t anything else for her to do this in epilogue. Whether you’ll be satisfied Kimmy has “earned” redemption for her sins in the end, I cannot say. I just think we’ve had 14 books of Josh constantly being on the back foot in the marriage, reacting to things his wife may or may not be doing, and basically thinking he’s taking a step forward when he actually ends up taking 2 steps back. At a certain point, that has to change right? For me, he has to end up flipping the script someway in this epilogue. Where he gets to be proactive and be in charge of his own destiny. Where it’s not just Kimmy doing something on her own and then coming back looking to be with him. It can’t always be Kimmy in charge of what happens to them and when. I’d like to see him push for a resolution, and even try to win her back if that’s what he wants. Even if he doesn’t get the answer he wants, at least he put his cards on the table and then can move on with life and being a father. This constant state where he’s waiting for Kimmy to act, or where he can’t convince her to change course, would be unsatisfying for me. If it’s just Kimmy doing everything to “prove” herself to Josh, then coming back to him and saying “I’ve earned it now, I want you back,” then I’d hope he’d have the guts to tell her no. Kimmy hasn’t really treated him like an equal partner in a long time, maybe not for the entire book. And maybe at times she’s been right to do that. She loves him, but I think deep down she doesn’t really respect him. For me to have a good feeling about a reconciliation, if one is still in the cards, it would have to involve her needing Josh’s help in something. Or in Josh seizing the initiative, not taking her words pushing him away at face value, and figuring out what’s going on and helping somehow. If we got that I’d probably be satisfied.
JL23
2024-07-28 15:37:51 +0000 UTCThe leisure class or rather the idle bastards have to be somewhere busy doin' nothin' workin' the whole day through! Spinning gold out of straw... Pricking sleeping beauties with giant thorns! Maybe, at that new club The Powerhouse of Free Enterprise... I much prefer "Liquid Kitty." Oh, yeah! It's still open and taking on all comers!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 15:32:33 +0000 UTCI love this! This is the way it should be, and thus a wonderful compliment, ha ha.
KT Morrison
2024-07-28 15:29:41 +0000 UTCHowever the story ends up and whether its received well, my only defense would be: but you see how it came to this, right? Then I can blame the characters if you don't like it (sarcasm, of course). Anyway, enough said, before I leave subtext that reveals the paths the story will take. -end
KT Morrison
2024-07-28 15:22:51 +0000 UTCThe big problem was getting the story to where it is now. That was the hardest thing I've ever written. Now I'm free. I'm on steady ground and I can open 'er up. I'm loving the hell out of this ending. What was key was getting into the character's truths and just making them behave as honestly as I can make them. As long as I make the characters honest, then the ending will be sound. 2/
KT Morrison
2024-07-28 15:19:54 +0000 UTCNervousness?: No. I'm really not. I'm actually excited. I've thought about this ending for almost a year. I've had a tough go over the last few years, and there were times that I thought I'd lost my charm. I doubted for a while I had any ending. But I persevered and over a few weeks the ending came to me (usually in the early morning hours upon waking but still held in the comfort of sleep). I've been working hard to reclaim what I know I had. 1/
KT Morrison
2024-07-28 15:17:46 +0000 UTCNo, far from it I am using an old old ploy to exorcise the pain of practising patience, putting myself in Josh's unenviable shoes, bleeding the bad humours out of my godlike trim young body. They are the agnostics. I eschew the banal agnosticism of romantic evil, I offer up my daily fealty to Kimberly, the regal stronghold. Language is based on lies but from that foundation truth can be wrought. Everything is relative... and the unexamined life is not worth living. The way that is the way is not the way. There's nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so. I like a good hard think. Life is too too short not to take the odd walk on the wild side, especially in youuuur head, in yoouuuuur hhhead! Walkin' the dog,,, And when the Melancholy fit is onnya, bursting Joy's grape on the good ole pallet, then shade to shade, hanging out with the other cloudy trophies at Kimmy's sovereign shrine. "Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know." Who needs god when we have Watchtowers and deserts of vast eternity? Nothing will come of nothing! A timorous knock on the bathroom door... "Have you finished venting your spleen yet, Bill?" "No, I fucking haven't!" a growling voice devoid of any humanity utters the cursory response. I live alone.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 14:58:16 +0000 UTCThank you, Kat. I love having you here! The other app is kind of mean, ha ha. I also lolled hard at the Zellers reference; I totally get that. I'm old enough to remember the K-Mart days where they even had cafeterias in them too.
KT Morrison
2024-07-28 14:34:23 +0000 UTCSo, Bill, do I understand that you have backed off your previous agnosticism wrt Kimmy's evil nature to something more in line with many of the other learned commentators here?
Donkatsu
2024-07-28 14:14:58 +0000 UTCAs a reader this is the first time I find myself more ignorant of Kimmy's 'life and leisure' than Josh... It is sobering yet unsettling. There is a lack of agency and an existential angst comparable to the emptiness of his prospects. Kimmy's life has become one of glittering celebrity upon a screen curated by unseen powers and handsome well-known (only by sight) strangers... And worst of all, Colleen, the girl, if she really is the fruit of 'his' loins, though that hardly matters, can easily be imagined as a true hostage of an unknown fate which he may have no legal right to attempt to protect her from... ostensibly a life of cosseted privilege which is due to the impotent role he must, foolishly, feel he chose of his own free will, or inadequacy. HE stands on the threshold of his nightmare of a dream house like a hawker, a beggar or a penniless bum waiting for a few crumbs or a slender handful of paltry coins in alms from the unapproachable lady of the house. And I find myself across the tracks halfway up a hill in Tartarus coughing my lungs up, drenched in stale stinky sweat unable to budge a large odious weighty lump of stone, to gain one more measly inch of progress... my body aching... What's it called... catching a breath... or is it giving up the ghost? And what if she, just like her mother, is not his? PS So another tragic antihero it is... Gutted again. Se hace un puto calvario!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 14:10:36 +0000 UTCI agree, its hard to be mad at Hyun given her involvement in this is predicated on so many bald faced lies from Kimmy to make it happen. She was heavily manipulated into this position. That said, I do feel she is far from blameless and does deserve recognition of the fact that she knows Kimmy was awful enough that she drove Josh to almost kill himself and has also seen their year long separation, yet has no compunction against using said events to her advantage to get her dream scenario of playing house with Kimmy. I don't think that makes Hyun awful, it does make her a shit friend to Josh, and a suspect person who isn't anywhere near as nice as she's been portrayed in the past. She may not be Kimmy levels of selfish, but she's got plenty of it in her. Hopefully next chapter reveals why Hyun was so full of dread.
L_S87
2024-07-28 12:00:57 +0000 UTCThe Man in Black from Lost! That’s a show I haven’t thought about in a while. The finale of that show was quite disappointing. I hope it’s just a coincidence referencing it here with Kimmy and the DITW finale. Lol
Kat
2024-07-28 07:33:22 +0000 UTCI thought I was out, but you pulled me back in!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 06:58:37 +0000 UTCOh, and as many others have mentioned Kimmy got over her actions having provoked "his suicide attempt" pretty sharpish. In fact shortly after her formalizing her guilt she dropped Josh like a hot coal despite his many protests. Also in spite of his attempts to reach out she has maintained her splendid isolation. She has maintained the primacy of her problems without ever giving him even the slightest explanation. She has yet to fulfil a single promise she has made. Surely Gabrielle, Meyer, or Karina made sure she knew why he was unable to attend the baby's birth. Did she enquire after his health? This is not the action of a loved one but rather someone who resents being indebted to another. When did she last profess her love for him or think of him as her lover. She openly revelled in her ecstatic enjoyment of fucking a man, under Josh's nose, she knew had despised and had bullied Josh, but then balked at his not accepting the word of a self-confessed long term lying cheat that the baby in her womb might not be his... On top of which SHE knew all the terrible thoughts, deeds and calumnies she had heaped on her 'cuckold' behind his back... She even shamed 'their' victim by implying he was not enough of a man . Yet now she had the bare faced effrontery to play the cool, calm and collected housewife armoured in politeness flaunting her composed sufferance of a wayward husband and father... What is wrong with the situation... or what is wrong with her? Why didn't she explain the things 'she' was ashamed of... She twisted 'his' shame to her deviant devices, then left him to his own!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 06:53:40 +0000 UTCIf I could throw out one more thing: is there symbolism behind Kimmy being dressed in all black? Black for mourning the death of her marriage (or her own impending doom as her chickens come home to roost), black like her heart as she’s about to break Josh’s? Is she dumping Josh for the ghost of Johnny Cash, or the Man in Black from Lost?
JL23
2024-07-28 05:59:53 +0000 UTCHaha very funny. 😆
Kat
2024-07-28 05:15:32 +0000 UTCIt’s either all we’ve said that there has to be more here, or Josh is a stand-in for someone who did KT wrong in real life and she’s taking all her anger out on this person through Josh. 😂
JL23
2024-07-28 05:07:49 +0000 UTCI suppose dead in a ditch is too much to hope for...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 05:00:16 +0000 UTCNot knowing anything about Devlin is a nuisance.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 04:58:34 +0000 UTCIt's a bit too much Richardson's suffocating pursuit of Pamela or Fielding's parody Shamela. KT would tend towards something that is recognisable as ad hoc reality, although that doesn't count him out as another kind of less heavy handed melodramatic but more coercive overbearing suitor. I would think it must reach Josh's ears, if Kimmy had been disbarred. Bad news travels fast! This might be one of those mysteries KT likes to draw out!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 04:55:03 +0000 UTCIt’s hard to have it be Glenn without also having Devlin and Amy close by as well. But perhaps she shared the tape with Glenn, to spite them both. Perhaps Glenn pulled his money from Devlin’s venture but knowing Kimmy was the true brains behind it, offered her the chance to run it. Perhaps he offered to pay the money back to Stone Sr as well. Even if she was disbarred, she could still run their new company. But perhaps, she’s finding out now she traded one Devlin for another, and can’t find a way out of whatever Glenn has her mixed up in. Perhaps….perhaps…perhaps. I like your thought on Hyun as well. Perhaps (there it is again), she is not fearful of Josh usurping her role, but is fearful of him getting hurt by what Kimmy is facing. I find it hard to believe she’d put her daughter in a situation where she’s in danger, but hear me out on this late night (for me) speculation: 1) Perhaps Kimmy’s made some kind of deal with Glenn to be the face of his company and his “arm candy” in exchange for paying off her debts. Perhaps he wants a more permanent relationship now, and is threatening her with exposure in some way, or coming after people she cares about, like Hyun and Josh. 2) Perhaps she’s agreed, with conditions. He agrees to finance a house for Hyun and Sophie in a nice neighborhood to live in. So the house we now think is for all 4 of them is really just for Hyun and Sophie. In exchange for her ending things with Josh, he also agrees to set him up monetarily in some way, maybe through a divorce settlement, and to not interfere with him being a father to Colleen. 3) Perhaps Hyun is aware of all of this, and knows what’s coming now that Josh is here and bonding with Colleen. Kimmy is going to ask for a divorce, claiming she’s moving on with Glenn, but in reality she’s really a prisoner. And Kimmy is adamant she deserves this fate and promises Hyun not to reveal anything. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps. It’s after midnight where I am and I should probably go to bed cause this outlandish thriller scenario makes plausible sense to me. You could also substitute Devlin for Glenn here and have it make sense. Or the idea that maybe Devlin and Amy were behind Glenn’s offer of largesse from the start, and are now enacting revenge for Kimmy ruining their plans.
JL23
2024-07-28 04:26:03 +0000 UTCI incline to Glenn because he would be an object of jealousy for Josh without inciting horror or loathing, also JL offered a few convincing arguments. Also if he let it be known he was Amy's friend it would avert suspicion he was schtupping his colleague or whatever... the alluring Kimmy. Naturally we must await the blessed moment when KT deems it opportune to put us out of our misery... or alternatively to tighten the thumb screws.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 03:59:28 +0000 UTCI want to know where Kimmy is still working? Because the mystery man must be related in someway to her job and her financial wellbeing. Those are some questions I have.
Andrew Mellein
2024-07-28 03:52:24 +0000 UTCI'm always wrong and probably am here. So maybe Kimmy/Hyun are a thing, Kimmy has extricated herself from any legal troubles over stealing $75k and/or having to pay it back, and now in less than a year has a great job, the ability to buy her and Hyun a multi million home and also has given up on being with Josh or trying to help him at all. I just keep coming back to a few things that tell me the picture we are seeing can't possible be the true reality. 1) Kimmy going from being distraught, rebuffing Josh's entreaties to help, and begging him to stay away until she earned the right to be with him, to actually putting her life back in order and achieving success...only to also decide she didn't want Josh anymore strikes me as totally implausible unless Josh rebuffed her own efforts to reconcile and we haven't seen it, or whatever she's done to get where she is now has caused to still feel unworthy of him. Is it because she's accidentally fallen in love with Hyun and doesn't want to hurt him more with that news? Maybe, but I don't see it as likely. Kimmy has a lot of faults and is selfish at times, but she is not heartless. In a lot of ways, the only 3 people she cared about (before Colleen) were Josh, Hyun and Sophie. After all she's done, I can't believe she'd put herself into a position where she has to hurt and permanently lose one or more of those people. Getting involved with Hyun romantically pretty much guarantees that. After everything else that's happened, I just don't think she'd do that. 2) The alacrity with which she seems to have turned everything around personally does not strike me as possible unless she's been forced into sacrifices she isn't proud of. Maybe she has a magic fairy on her shoulder granting her wishes, or a magic benefactor came out of nowhere to solve all her problems. We known that couldn't have been Hyun. Even if everything happened totally above board though, I also don't find it plausible that she would achieve all that and just decide Josh wasn't worth the fight. I also can't believe she doesn't have any idea how Josh has been doing, they share the same "spy" after all, and wouldn't be trying to do something to help him if she could. I really hope the next chapter clears a lot of this up, cause it's kind of driving me crazy already. But I kind of fear it's going to be awhile before we really know for sure what situation Kimmy is actually in, and what her true motivations are. She may say one thing to people, but be cryptic with her own thoughts to keep us in the dark for a while longer.
JL23
2024-07-28 03:22:20 +0000 UTCKimmy is great at facades. Its part of her gift as a consummate and professional liar. I think we all agree there's a healthy dose of illusion going on here. Colleen and her importance aside, too much doesn't add up. The question is, how disastrous will the answers be? I do know, as bad as I will feel for Kimmy, if the answer is that Josh needs to provide blanket forgiveness and bail her out of something so they can be "together" I'm not really interested. I don't want Kimmy to suffer, I DO, however, want her to show a concerted effort at rebuilding what she broke. And it can't be easy. Teaming up to vanquish a final foe is a good way to do that. But only if Kimmy tries to make things right afterwards, not use it as an excuse to get a quick and easy reconciliation.
L_S87
2024-07-28 03:12:14 +0000 UTCLots of interesting thoughts in those bits and pieces, Bill. I like the idea of Hyun's dread not being because of Josh, but because his showing up represents a pivotal point that ends the current status quo, in a way detrimental to her and Josh. We'll see the truth of that. I do wonder if Mr. Mystery Man from the photos was at the house warming party. It seems like it would be odd for him not to be if Kimmy is close enough to be going to an event where they're photographed together, with her maiden name and no ring. And perhaps that's related to Hyun's fear.
L_S87
2024-07-28 03:00:57 +0000 UTCHas Kimmy sold her soul not to the devil... but the status quo?
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 02:57:18 +0000 UTCYes, and maybe Colleen is the perfect way to do that, seeing her, focusing on her, ignoring his problems, ignoring Kimmy, simply taking joy in one thing that is actually right, maybe that will help fix things. Perhaps that's Kimmy's angle to get back into his good graces. We'll see. Maybe that's Hyun's fear and dread. Them bonding again over the one shared thing they have that Kimmy didn't fuck up. Colleen is Josh's and they will always share this beautiful miracle. It won't, and shouldn't, be that easy, but its a foot in the door. One Hyun doesn't have, and she knows it. Grrr. Need the next chapter already!!! (Sorry, KT, don't rush, I'm just antsy)
L_S87
2024-07-28 02:55:01 +0000 UTCShe is hiding behind a perfectly clipped hedge of politeness... middle class cordiality, It's a wonder Josh even recognises her! She restrains even her moments of affection. 'One may smile, and smile, and be a villain'. The guerrilla warfare of the classes...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 02:50:59 +0000 UTCI know it seems unlikely but the above is my idea of reticence.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 02:37:38 +0000 UTCA series of disconnected conjectures. Life would be easier for Kimmy with her family if Colleen were not the illegitimate child of an adulterous affair with her boss. Kimmy wore her wedding ring to the house warming to muddy the waters of speculation amongst family and friends. Kimmy knows Josh well enough to know he would fall for a beautiful child who he has been merely promised is his... Bad habits die hard... Devlin remains an insurmountable problem for Josh. Kimmy remains contemptuous of Josh. Kimmy has convinced herself she is bad for Josh, and must make a sacrifice of her love to Josh in order to wipe out her betrayal of Josh, so each of them has a blank slate to go their separate ways. A bit self-serving in my view. Kimmy has surrounded herself with all the consumerism, and conspicuous display that Josh and Meyer eschew. Kimmy sees herself as having burnt her bridges and after so long she feels she has nothing left to lose. Kimmy is lost in a world of appearances, vanity and ambition. Where Josh does not fit in. By refusing to accept her limitations and failings she is alienating Josh and Hyun. And will confuse and change Sophie with her largesse. Hyun is more worried by Kimmy's dishonesty with every day. The more she learns about the truth the more guilty and sympathetic she feels towards Josh. Hyun also worries what other people must think of her living in beautiful Kimmy's beautiful house while her girl friend passes herself off as Kimmy Chang and teeters on her excessively high heels. Meanwhile trying to merge estrangement from her husband with the independence of a modern woman. Hyun has been forced by her friendship and affection to cover up and even lie for Kimmy... Ironically, Josh is probably the only person she could safely confide in. A person she is obliged to deceive. It may be her who is trying to cajole her daughter into not accidently revealing information that could hurt him deeply. Recently Hyun has felt she is being treated more like an unpaid domestic than a 'special' friend. I could go on all night but will end on a depressing note... Kimmy has fallen back on lying to herself and everybody else!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 02:34:22 +0000 UTCI'm right there with you, JL. There are tons of possibilities, but none of them really feel right unless its that ending. There has to be meaning behind Kimmy's statements and reactions in the last two chapters of the last book, otherwise all of this is meaningless. We know Kimmy's a habitual liar, and followed that same path by living with Hyun when she said she wouldn't, but there's reasons, we know there are, we just don't know those reasons. And any result that ends with Kimmy just HEA-ing, sans Josh, feels incredibly wrong, given past events. Yes, the real world can work that way, but it doesn't feel right here. Its why I said in another post I'd like to see something a little different here. We've never seen a series this dark and awful, but we've seen plenty of endings with "weak" guys who accept their wives bad behaviors and take them back with no real effort on the wives part to earn such benevolence, only time and simple forgiveness. Given how different the main story was, I'd like to see a significantly different ending as well. If that means Josh stepping up to be part of Colleens life but not being in Kimmy's (similar to Hyun and Meyer) so be it. A part of me would prefer that. If only because the level of Kimmy's mistakes (her choices almost led to him being killed for gods sake, lets not forget that) are *not* something that should be easily dismissed or forgiven over a few chapters. Regardless of the situation she's in that leads to Sophie saying she's cried sometimes, she earned that. I'm not opposed to Josh helping her fix it, but that help must come with a healthy dose of contrition and multiple chapters of actions on Kimmy's part to show she gets it, and Josh's health and well being are just as important as Colleens. (I know some will argue this, but marriages fail all the time when partners don't understand that dumping everything into the children and treating your spouse poorly is just as toxic as ignoring the children. There must be balance so everyone feels loved equally. ) Right now, Kimmy has done the opposite by ignoring Josh, shutting him out and buying a house without Josh that she previously had said was *their* dream. I acknowledge there could be all sorts of extenuating circumstances for this, but again, they all stem from her mistakes. And none of it addresses her trying to help make Josh whole after ruining him. So we'll see. There's a smidgen of me that is still rooting for her, but its tempered by a desire that it only works with extensive effort and explanation. I don't want a get out of jail free card ending where Kimmy gets easy acceptance or forgiveness from Josh. That's not befitting of 14 books of pain and anguish.
L_S87
2024-07-28 02:32:33 +0000 UTCPerhaps that’s his reticence. I think it’s more he’s just broken, and paralyzed by his fears and anxiety. And his greatest weakness has always been that he’s way too obsessed on how others perceive him and that they will judge him over everything that has happened between him and Kimmy. Seeing Colleen means he has to face all of this in a couple of ways: 1) To see Colleen, he has to see Kimmy, and face the fear she’s moving on without him. And for her and everyone to see how great she seems to be doing, and how badly he is. 2) He also may have to face the fear he is not the father, and the reaction of others to knowing not only did his wife have an affair, it resulted in her being pregnant by another man. It’s easier for him to run from these things, than to put himself in a position to face them. At least he is still there, and hopefully not running from it anymore. Whatever the ultimate truth is with all this, his marriage, whether he’s the father, he needs to figure out a way to pick up the pieces of his life.
JL23
2024-07-28 02:30:34 +0000 UTCKat, maybe he doesn't want an emotional connection with the child before knowing the 50/50 that she's his. I wouldn't.
Chris K
2024-07-28 02:13:24 +0000 UTCThis chapter has consumed my thoughts all day. I’m sad and unsettled, too. Nothing makes sense at face value here. I’m clinging to hope that there’s more to the story that will help this make sense in a satisfying way.
Kat
2024-07-28 02:09:16 +0000 UTCFormally known as Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg and commonly referred to as Webster Lake, this beautiful attraction offers visitors a relaxing and tranquil natural asset for swimming, boating, kayaking and more! From Wikipedia: Lake Chaubunagungamaug Webster Lake The lake's name comes from the Algonquian language of the Nipmuc, and is often said to mean, "Fishing Place at the Boundaries—Neutral Meeting Grounds".[1] A more fitting translation is "lake divided by islands", according to anthropologist Ives Goddard.[2] Early town records show the name as "Chabunagungamaug Pond", which was also the name of the local Nipmuc town (recorded in 1668 and 1674 with somewhat different spellings). This has been translated as "boundary fishing place",[5] but something close to "fishing place at the boundary" or "that which is a divided island lake" may be more accurate.[6] The humorous translation works just as well, Bill.
Donkatsu
2024-07-28 01:43:04 +0000 UTCSorry, should be lame description!
Wayne
2024-07-28 01:17:33 +0000 UTCI have just reread this for the third time, while sitting in my office getting ready for Monday clients. Called my boss told him I needed a mental health break, and now I am sitting in a downtown bar, sipping expensive bourbon and pining with my friend Josh! Your writings are so wonderful, and that is a lame definition, because I can't even describe how good KT is at this, this needs a trigger warning!!!
Wayne
2024-07-28 01:16:31 +0000 UTCI couldn't take it anymore! You're killing me, KT!
Wayne
2024-07-28 01:13:04 +0000 UTCOK!OK!OK!
Wayne
2024-07-28 01:12:22 +0000 UTCYeah, hopefully he realizes what perhaps Kimmy already has. That it’s not really about the 2 of them and everything done to their marriage, it’s about their little girl. And that can give Josh strength to pull himself back from his fears and into a good place, regardless of what the fate of his marriage is. But there’s still the thorny issue of paternity, and how it impacts how Josh feels about Colleen. When Kimmy is so adamant Josh is the father, I wonder how much of that certainty is from her belief that Josh would take one look at Colleen and accept her as his child, no matter the paternity. So his reaction may be the test of that. However, I would not blame him if he asked for a paternity test, and if he ultimately couldn’t accept raising Devlin’s child. So Kimmy’s reaction if he does ask will also be interesting. Has she had it done already somehow, and was waiting for this moment to let him know. Does she react badly to him asking? Does he ask at all, or does he just fall in love at first sight with Colleen? Or, does he not want to ask for fear of the truth, and having others know as well if he doesn’t get the answer he’d want?
JL23
2024-07-28 01:11:37 +0000 UTCIn Massachusetts we were told the translation was "You fish on your side, I fish on mine, nobody fishes in the middle". Wonderful ambiguity, KT.
Donkatsu
2024-07-28 01:05:00 +0000 UTCI’m hoping Josh has an instant bond with her. It happens when you hold your child for the first time. I hope it motivates him to get out of his slump and help raise his daughter.
Kat
2024-07-28 00:45:44 +0000 UTCYup, the Dad!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-28 00:31:36 +0000 UTCOne small thing I’m hoping for the next chapter is that Colleen has a good reaction when being placed in Josh’s arms. Babies don’t always react well when interacting with a stranger, and sadly, that’s what Josh will be to her. A scenario where she starts wailing and Kimmy or Hyun have to take her from him to calm her down will probably only exacerbate his sense he doesn’t belong here, and to activate his instinct to flee. Hopefully, by some magic grace, Colleen realizes this stranger with the beard is someone she’s connected to, and reacts to him with curiosity and a smile rather than a wail. It feels like a little thing, but I think it’s actually kind of a big thing to keep Josh calm. And keep him there so we can hopefully get more answers on what’s happening.
JL23
2024-07-28 00:26:50 +0000 UTCYeah Kat, I can't stop talking about this chapter today because it left me so sad and unsettled. It's been on my mind since I read it this morning. I almost need Josh to have done something to actually push Kimmy away. That would be preferable to me than the thought Kimmy just decided Josh wasn't worth fighting for anymore. Really, I'd be angry at her. You broke Josh, claimed you were seeking redemption for that, and just moved on instead? Pretty much immediately? Not to mention she made all those bad decisions that should have serious consequences but in really just about 7 months, have turned your life around where you have a nice house, nice job, and perhaps a new relationship with someone, with zero sense she's paid any price beyond no longer being with Josh, which seems like it no longer means much to her anyway? So much of the face value here doesn't make sense to me so that's why I fervently believe there has to be more to all this. Honestly, it will be a really tough read moving forward if there isn't more to all this.
JL23
2024-07-28 00:05:09 +0000 UTCThis post made me even happier, JS. I know the chances don’t look good for a traditional HEA (as if anything about this book has been traditional. Lol), but it’s driving me nuts trying to accept that Kimmy has moved on so fast and so well, and has turned the page on Josh. What could have happened for this to be the result of the past 12 months? I’m still clinging to hope that there’s an explanation for everything.
Kat
2024-07-27 23:32:53 +0000 UTCI can’t personally hate Hyun. I really don’t perceive her as doing anything wrong. She hasn’t forced or manipulated Kimmy into anything that we’ve seen. In the worse case, she’s just been there for Kimmy in a way that Josh couldn’t or wouldn’t be, or in a way that Kimmy let Josh be. If over time, that caused Kimmy to develop true romantic feelings for her, I can fault Hyun for “stealing” her from under Josh. If that is where we’re going, it would just be sad for me. Also, any kind of storyline where Josh is competing for Kimmy with Hyun just feels like a tragedy where someone important to the story, and someone we like, is going to be truly hurt. Maybe more than anything else, that’s why I’m hoping this is not what it looks like from this chapter.
JL23
2024-07-27 23:31:05 +0000 UTCI have to agree with you Chris, about Kimmy treating Josh like a child. Maybe not treating, but she sounded patronizing to him in this chapter. Talking to him like he’s a kid.
Kat
2024-07-27 23:27:05 +0000 UTCI could be totally wrong about my read, and Kimmy has just moved on with Hyun or the mystery guy, not because she doesn’t love Josh anymore, or because something else is forcing her to move on, but simply because that’s how life works. What you need and want over time changes, and maybe Kimmy has just found she had to move on from a Josh who couldn’t get his life together, and maybe from a Josh who couldn’t accept who she was. It would just be a sad ending, and I don’t see where we go from there to wrap it up. Kimmy would almost seem superfluous to any interesting parts of a story if she settled and happy in her new life. Are we just following Josh as he tries to rebuild, starting a new life and getting to know his daughter? I don’t personally want a Hyun/Kimmy/Josh triangle storyline either. No one wins in that scenario. Either Kimmy chooses Josh and alienates Hyun and Sophie from her life, or she chooses Hyun and then Josh is left on the outside. Not a satisfying ending either way. Similarly, Josh battling some unknown rich guy for Kimmy feels forced and different from the remainder of the story. We’ve had 14 chapters of a bully cuckold thriller, it just feels like the final outcome of this opus has to involve Kimmy, Josh and Devlin in some fashion.
JL23
2024-07-27 23:26:11 +0000 UTCI like your first paragraph, L_S. It made me happy. Lol
Kat
2024-07-27 23:25:30 +0000 UTCI’m finding it hard to believe that Kimmy could have moved on with her life so quickly. She walked out on Josh two days after he nearly died because of her. Somehow she got out of money trouble without being arrested or disbarred, and miraculously earned enough money to buy herself a 2 mil home, and be the breadwinner for Hyun, Sophia and Colleen. All of this in 12 months, along with having a baby. It seems so unrealistic. It’s also hard to believe that Kimmy has gotten over Josh like he meant nothing to her, and the terrible things she did that destroyed him meant nothing. I just can’t believe she’s now with Hyun living in joy, while Josh is living with panic attacks and hooked on pills. This story is really getting to me. Lol
Kat
2024-07-27 23:22:01 +0000 UTCGreat insights. Sad, but really thoughtful.
Kat
2024-07-27 23:11:40 +0000 UTCAlso worth noting that the neighborhood is one that Kimmy and Josh used to visit and dream about buying a house together. It may not be a coincidence then she picked that particular neighborhood to buy it. And as other said, it appears they are still married legally, so technically it is Josh’s house as well, even if he doesn’t want to look at it that way. Really hoping not to learn about the specifics of Ontario divorce law though. BTW it’s this passage that makes me think Josh has reason to believe Kimmy is involved with some guy and not Hyun. When he’s pulling up to the house and reminisces about him and Kimmy dreaming about buying a house in this area, he says this house is more they could have possibly dreamed of and then immediately after….”But then there’s the man in the photo.” I’m still going with who that man is, and why Kimmy is involved with him, is more important to the final 12 (or 27) chapters than Kimmy’s relationship with Hyun. If it’s a Stone, I think it’s probably related to a plan for Kimmy to get revenge for her or Josh. It might actually be more disconcerting if it’s someone completely new, a guy who Kimmy met who has resources and maybe helped resolve her problems. And has the notoriety to take her to fancy galas that end up in the Lifestyle section.
JL23
2024-07-27 22:54:48 +0000 UTCTrue!
Andrew Mellein
2024-07-27 21:52:25 +0000 UTCWe also know, Kimmy has a need to steal. Maybe she "stole" clients from Devlin. It is obvious she made a lot of his deals for him, so she is knowledgeable about the details of his business.
Wayne
2024-07-27 21:32:54 +0000 UTCKimmy has a home office. Maybe she has been pouring herself into building her on business, advancing her precious career. The gala was an event she attended in a professional capacity. We know she maintained her maiden name when doing business.
Wayne
2024-07-27 21:26:51 +0000 UTCAnother chapter and nothing really answered. KT is such a tease. Lovingly it but it’s killing me. It would still seem to be plan B. Kimmy has moved on in a relationship with Hyun. In fairness, she may have believed Josh had moved on too. Went to Rome, no contact for one year. I don’t know that we’ll find out whose baby Colleen is genetically. I think Kimmy is happy to live in the fantasy that it’s Josh and doesn’t want to risk finding out Colleen is Devlin’s. It’s Kimmy and Hyun’s baby now. I think Kimmy is open to Josh being part of their life to what ever degree he wants but it won’t be like before. She previously told us that. She is with Hyun, but you know Kimmy, she will occasionally need a big dick, not Devlin, but someone. Kimmy doesn’t seem to be contrite, even chastising Josh for not coming earlier. He should have, of course, if he wanted a relationship with Colleen. You can’t come in after 9 months and say I’ll be dad now. I think there will be a reconciliation of sorts and an acceptance of what happened and what life will look like going forward for them all. It’s almost inconceivable that Kimmy would now betray Hyun and go back to Josh, or if she did that Josh would take her back. Polygamous relationship, maybe, fwb maybe. I could never see a btb scenario. KT doesn’t do that. Kimmy is who Kimmy is. I’m hoping at the very least Josh sees things for what they are and can find peace. Like Maggie, Kimmy is too much women for Josh, and Josh not enough for Kimmy. He needs Kimmy as part of his life, but not the central part anymore. To much Water under this bridge. It will be sad but real. Satisfying, not sure. Nothing short of Kimmy burning at the stake will satisfy us. Not happening. Maybe though Devlin got burnt and Kimmy got her revenge on him. The guy in the picture? Certainly, dragging that out KT . Not fair, but you know, after what we have just read, it probably doesn’t matter. Josh will never let his guard down with Kimmy, and Kimmy, while seeming empathetic to Josh’s feelings finally, she seems above it all and detached. Definitely, moved on. May be remorseful, but there was never anyway Kimmy was going back to making baskets. Colleen is priority one now, not Josh for sure or even herself. We’ll see what KT has planned. Btw, thanks for interacting so much and so fast after this chapter KT. Is there some nervousness about how we might react to the epilogue you have planned?
Tracey52
2024-07-27 21:11:32 +0000 UTCThat's why Josh should leave Kimmy. Anyway we look at it he's humiliated. The summer long affair with two people, the theft he doesn't know about, the year long separation, the house he had no decision in that will be provided to him. The man has no say in his own life and marriage. He either goes along or gets left behind. Regardless of she had to go through to stay out of jail. She treats him like a kid she is babysitting rather than a partner.
Chris K
2024-07-27 20:42:37 +0000 UTCStone Sr? But wouldn't Josh know him from the picture?
Andrew Mellein
2024-07-27 20:33:11 +0000 UTCI'll be the one holdout, but to me we're jumping to conclusions that Kimmy is with Hyun romantically. We know Hyun is there, and that she takes care of the baby, it could simply be she's there to support Kimmy as a friend. And Kimmy likely feels she owes Hyun and Sophie for being there for her, and wants them to enjoy being able to live in a nice house with nice schools for Sophie. Call me dumb or naive (I probably am), but I think its entirely possible nothing romantic is going on between them at this point. I keep going back to the house, and the timeline. How did Kimmy in about 8 months, while also having a baby and seemingly in a lot of trouble, get the resources to buy this house? A million, two million, that's still an expensive mortgage, and one you have to financially qualify for. Plus Josh asked about her renovations which meant more money spent (that was probably not just slipped in there as an idle aside either). I don't believe Kimmy had the (legitimate) resources before to make this happen, how did she acquire them now, in like a couple months? Even if she magically kept her law license, another high powered job in a big firm wouldn't give her that financial clout in that short a time. The fancy gala with the mystery guy. The fact this "housewarming" party appeared to be a big catered event. All these things, to me, point to something more than Kimmy finding a nice job, deciding to be with Hyun, and building a life together with her. She is involved in something else, with someone who is high powered and influential. Whether she's involved willingly, or for some kind of ulterior motive to me, that is the only way she could be in this position and life security she appears to be in this short a time. Since I don't believe there's a epilogue if Josh and Kimmy are going down separate paths, whatever else she is involved in must be related to Josh ultimately. No offense to Hyun, but the conclusion to this epic can't be Josh and Hyun fighting for Kimmy.
JL23
2024-07-27 20:27:02 +0000 UTCKT makes a good point for me while considering this chapter and final book. I get the feeling that the path is known, but the length, number of ascents and descents, is still in flux. All the fine details that will make this special still need to be defined and defined. That's not easy to see, and sometimes a decision for one point shifts others and how they are portrayed. I'm still ambivalent on wanting Kimmy to be with Josh because all her decisions to this point, forced against her will or not, are still based on her poor decisions for 14 books and I'm not sure I want to see her in this house, fucking Hyun on a daily or weekly basis, and somehow getting Josh too as if her mistakes were rewarded. Josh deserves better. But we know Kimmy has been crying, so the perfect house may be a facade. We'll see. KT will show us. And it will be nothing like what we thought. Because she's so damn good at that.
L_S87
2024-07-27 20:26:53 +0000 UTCStop trifling with me, KT!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-27 20:15:19 +0000 UTCDon't forget JL23, that in all the books so far usually when Josh makes an assumption, he is usually correct. Regardless of the state he is in, he's always had a knack for the knowing the truth. Accepting it has always been where he falters.
Chris K
2024-07-27 19:58:08 +0000 UTCWell, it doesn't have to be that way. After all, Hyun's dread here could be because she knows Kimmy has a plan, starting now with Colleen and the ring, to work her way back into Josh's good graces. Since we've had no POV from Kimmy, we just don't know. Maybe they had a conversation where Kimmy said their 6 months of "play" are almost over because she needs to move on with working towards reconciliation with Josh. Her actions to this point look like they're moving in completely the opposite direction, but again, a lack of insight from her POV means we have a big blind spot. We only see Josh suffering, more and more, with Kimmy's silence and house purchase being salt in the wound. But Hyun's fear means something is going on. We kinda figured that, but we just don't know. What's going on could be anything. Josh focusing on Colleen here means we also don't get a good feel for how he plans to treat Kimmy once the anxiety of meeting Colleen is over. Lots still to learn.
L_S87
2024-07-27 19:57:12 +0000 UTC"I can tell by your eyes That you've probably been cryin' forever And the stars in the sky Don't mean nothin' to you, they're a mirror" "If I stand all alone Will the shadow hide the color of my heart? Blue for the tears, black for the night's Fears the stars in the sky Don't mean nothin' to you, they're a mirror." by Danny Whitten 'Crazy Horse' NOT Rod Stewart Neil Young's 'The Needle and the Damage Done' was inspired by the memory of him. I forget the title, but could be Josh or Hyun knows it. I shouldn't bother asking Kimmy anything... with her it's like trying to get blood out of a stone.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-27 19:54:19 +0000 UTCHer relationship with Hyun was a whole other level of betrayal of Josh that has never been resolved, so it could be this is what the epilogue is for. You bring up a good point, Kat. It could just be as simple as Hyun was there for Kimmy at a point in her life where Josh couldn't be, and they've bonded closer over that. That they're living together seems to indicate a relationship, but the fact that neither Meyer or Josh seem to be all that worked about it would indicate they're not publicly together. All we really know is that Hyun is there and taking care of the baby during the day. They may not be romantically linked at this point. Or it's like before where the sex with Hyun is Kimmy's emotional blanket without Josh. Just feels like Kimmy making a conscious decision to move on with Hyun would be another awful betrayal of Josh that she wouldn't do unless something else occurred to have her believe being with Josh was no longer attainable for her. As to the number of chapters left, we know that's often a rough estimate. 12 seems like not enough to wrap up an involved epilogue, but it also feels to me like more that you need if the truth is Kimmy is no longer in any predicament with the money, has found happiness and success in her life and has given up on being with Josh.
JL23
2024-07-27 19:46:00 +0000 UTCI was thinking about the Kimmy Chang thing and her not wearing the ring in the picture. She had been going by Kimmy Chang since she went back to work for Devlin. Her business cards read Kimmy Chang. The ring thing may just be part of that. She’s rebuilding her career and doesn’t need any questions about wedding rings, but no husband by her side. Why else would she wear it again for Josh’s benefit? To lead him on some more? I’m still having issues understanding how they haven’t seen each in a year. The last time Kimmy saw him was when she walked out on him, a mere two days after he nearly died. And Josh has a daughter that’s almost a year old, and he’s never seen her, even a picture? Josh’s near death really seemed to be a pivotal point in their relationship, in Kimmy’s love and devotion for him. Now she’s living with Hyun in a 2 million dollar house? Something’s definitely missing.
Kat
2024-07-27 19:44:58 +0000 UTCTotally. I’m surprised he didn’t develop a thicker skin after everything he was put through.
Kat
2024-07-27 19:37:40 +0000 UTCI’m preparing to be disappointed, no offence, KT! 12 chapters could be enough if they are long enough for a HEA, but there’s still so much we don’t now. How did Kimmy pull off this amazing magic trick of no jail, maybe no disbarment and now a beautiful 2 million dollar house? Also, where is Devlin and the video of him? There seems to be too much left for HEA in 12 chapters. 😞
Kat
2024-07-27 19:36:33 +0000 UTCHyun is probably scared of losing everything she’s attained through Kimmy, as well, she’s probably become very attached to the baby. She was underhanded, especially because she had to know everything that Josh was going through. And what has Josh ever done to her? Hyun has a conscience. That’s why she probably isn’t public with Kimmy. She feels too guilty, as she should. I don’t like Hyun. I think she’s a usurper.
Kat
2024-07-27 19:31:45 +0000 UTCMaybe I'm just a stubborn broken record (or I just don't want the truth to be what it appears to be from what we've seen so far), but I can't believe the reality is that Kimmy is moving on with Hyun (or a Stone, or another guy) and has given up wanting to win Josh back. If that is reality, there is a reason or event(s) that brought her there, it's not as simple as her deciding she was better off without him. I think you hit on the key point, everything we've seen in Book 15 has been from Josh's POV, and we know Josh is in a bad place where he perceives everything turning against him and the world maybe leaving him behind. We see Kimmy and Hyun here, but everything is colored through Josh's mindset. He perceived Hyun as reacting to him with fear and a threat to her status with Kimmy. Maybe that was it, and maybe Kimmy and Hyun are in a burgeoning relationship, living together in a nice house and raising their daughters together. But maybe that look meant something else. We have to remember Hyun knew about Kimmy's predicament with the money, and likely also is aware of whatever was done to get her out of it. Maybe there's something she's still being forced to do. Maybe the fearful look in Hyun's eyes has nothing to do with Josh and him threatening to come back and ruin her happy life with Kimmy. I think there is an important line of demarcation in the story, that we don't know yet and probably provides the pieces we need. We know from Josh that he was in semi regular contact via text with Kimmy for several months after they separated, and she came off as despondent, scared and unworthy of Josh. Sophie provides further proof that this was not a skewed perspective by Josh of Kimmy's mindset. Then, she went "radio silent" and Sophie tells us she moved to her own apartment. Now, in the preceding 7 or 8 months, she seems to have found success and happiness, while Josh is paralyzed by anxiety and fear and going backwards. Are those two things separate, or is there some reason why both are happening? My thought is something has happened in this time frame that has led us here. Either something happened between Kimmy and Josh we aren't yet privy to, or Kimmy had to do something (or is still involved in something) that led her to feel she could no longer pursue a relationship with Josh. I just still have a hard time believing Kimmy was able to resolve all her troubles, have her baby, find a great job and great house, and is deciding to move on with Hyun or someone else rather that Josh. If this is the reality, something else happened to get her to this place. She didn't just decide to give up on being with Josh. And we just won't know until we hear from Kimmy.
JL23
2024-07-27 19:31:24 +0000 UTCIf Kimmy and Hyun are a couple they seem to be still living in secret. Sophie doesn’t seem to know, and Meyer doesn’t seem to have any feelings about it. I have a feeling that Hyun was there for her during her pregnancy and delivery, and they’ve bonded throughout that, along with their attraction to each other from before. There’s no way that they aren’t sleeping together, at least when Sophie isn’t there.
Kat
2024-07-27 19:28:24 +0000 UTCI have faith in you KT to give us a proper ending. Now George RR Martin that's another story. It's been 4760 days since Dance of the Dragons was published. (LOL!)
Andrew Mellein
2024-07-27 19:26:25 +0000 UTCI agree, JL, on your last thoughts. If Kimmy was truly that over Josh, she wouldn't wear the ring. Now, she may be in a Maggie position where she's made a decision, or was forced to make one, that isn't in Josh's favor, but her actions here don't come across as uncaring. They come across as reserved, perhaps afraid. Either because she wants something she can no longer have, or is worried about what she wants being unattainable. Whether thats because of Josh's distance, being forced into a bad deal that leaves Josh on the outside, or because she's made decisions with Hyun that make reconciliation impossible. We don't know. Or that she's made decisions with Hyun to keep herself sane that will ruin Hyun when she and Josh get back together. We just don't know. Its my struggle with the potential shortness of having so few chapters. And the setup. Kimmy and Hyun are clearly a thing, with them being in the same house like this, so how does Josh ever fit into that? The radio silence makes it feel like he doesn't. Yet she wore the ring. Past Kimmy would have no compunction with doing that for overt manipulation even if her goals aligned elsewhere. So is the ring just another lie in a long line of such? Yet, as I stated in another post, bifurcation of the storyline and Josh finding love elsewhere feels like it would take a 30 chapter book, not half that. Ultimately, we'll find out. What I'm not sure I want to see is Josh rescuing Kimmy. She doesn't deserve it, there's no "earning him back" there. It just comes across as an easy out. So we'll see what Kimmy has planned. The house feels like a slap in Josh's face, so I've got to believe there's a reason for it beyond the obvious.
L_S87
2024-07-27 19:25:14 +0000 UTCI definitely experienced this first hand. We had to move to the suburbs in 2011 when we needed to buy a house. There was nowhere in Toronto even back then that we could have afforded, except maybe a 2 bedroom condo. Now, young people can barely afford to rent a 1 bedroom in Toronto. Most places are well over 2,000 a month, if not closer to 3,000. Houses on my street in the suburbs (which are nothing special) were selling for 1.3 million during Covid. Craziness! ETA: Kimmy’s house sounds lovely, though. I think some of my feelings are jealous for her quality of life. Lol 😆
Kat
2024-07-27 19:23:04 +0000 UTCThanks, Andrew. I just feel so sad about what’s become of them. I know they’re just fictional people, but they feel so real. I’m way too invested on what’s going to be with them. Even where they live, nearby me, and the places they go to, Kingston, Toronto, etc. In Book 2, Kimmy even shops in the plaza that I frequent, and they get take out from best Chinese place in the area, Good Taste, Fine Taste in real life. Lol BTW, KT, that Walmart where she buys the condoms is the WORST Walmart ever. It looks like it hasn’t been renovated since the early’90’s, and it’s always a mess. Sort of like an old Zellers. Lol Kimmy Chang Esq. would never step foot in there. Hahaha 😆 Cherry Blossoms was the first KT book that really got me invested in her writing. I was reading it chapter by chapter on a book app. It got to the point where I couldn’t wait for the next chapter, looked her up and bought the book! That’s not to say that it wasn’t a harrowing read for me. I had to stop at times and go back, because some of it was so difficult to get through. I’d never read anyone that brought out that much emotion from me. Sex aside, the emotions, the characters are what really drew me in. I joined the Patreon, because I wanted to discuss the writing, the characters, and support KT. Sometimes if I think too hard it seems weird to be the only female commentator (aside from the awesome KT) here. I enjoy the intelligent, thoughtful banter here. There’s none of that on the book app. My favourite parts of DITW are the relationships, the conversations between Josh and Kimmy and the thoughts inside Kimmy’s head. KT does dialogue so well. However this book ends, I’ll still support KT. It’s a testament to her talents as an author, and artist that we can feel so much joy and so much pain from reading her creations. And I still have hope (although that’s dwindling) that Kimmy, Josh and Colleen get a HEA.
Kat
2024-07-27 19:12:19 +0000 UTCOh my gosh, that's so great!
KT Morrison
2024-07-27 19:11:53 +0000 UTC12 chapters converted to KT is something like 27. I'm finally where I envisaged I could be in the story about three books ago. Don't trust anything I say when it comes to how much longer, ha ha. I really thought I could do this book and the last two in just 50k words. It'll probably come out to triple that.
KT Morrison
2024-07-27 19:11:09 +0000 UTCOh wow, I just realized you wrote contemporary Cherokee. That's really interesting.
KT Morrison
2024-07-27 19:06:30 +0000 UTCWait, the guy from Lost Boys. right? I haven't actually watched GG beyond the first season, and that was a long time ago.
KT Morrison
2024-07-27 19:05:37 +0000 UTCYes, young people with a half million for down payment can't even get a mortgage.
KT Morrison
2024-07-27 19:04:30 +0000 UTCThe humorous translation is: "You fish on your side, I'll fish on my side, and no one shall fish in the middle". Its humorous translation was perhaps invented by Laurence J. Daly, editor of The Webster Times.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-27 18:57:48 +0000 UTCJosh seemed totally neutered in this chapter (LOL!)
Andrew Mellein
2024-07-27 18:28:13 +0000 UTCAgree JL on the distance. There's clearly a wall there. Kimmy wearing the ring seemed to thaw Josh slightly, but only in so much as she was providing support for a momentous time for him. It only really addresses mistakes and fixing them in regards to Colleen, and not making her pay for Kimmy's mistakes. It will be interesting to see how Josh reacts to Kimmy once this thing with Colleen is completed and the fear and angst are replaced with thoughts of Kimmy herself.
L_S87
2024-07-27 18:24:37 +0000 UTCKat. I pray and this chapter somewhat reassures me that Colleen is Josh's. Even though Josh doesn't know for sure. However I don't think we will get a Cherry Blossoms ending if Colleen is Devlin's. Compare this to Learning Lessons with Jess having Tyler's kid. Pete acknowledged he pushed Jess to Tyler so he was somewhat responsible for Jess getting pregnant. So he stepped up and raised that kid. Nobody pushed Kimmy to Devlin. She had an affair with his High School bully. So if she did have Devlin's kid I pray that Josh has the good sense to hand the kid back to Kimmy and walk the fuck out of there for good.
Andrew Mellein
2024-07-27 18:19:50 +0000 UTCBoth. We watched the Gilmore Girls together! She studied History, and in her final year she wrote about the contemporary Cherokee with special emphasis on government, religion and education. I strongly suspect her tutor/professor/whatever was taking advantage of her research because she is bilingual, far too hardworking, and intelligent. One of the greatest initial attractions of GG being one of our all time favourite vampires being in the main cast.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-27 18:06:09 +0000 UTCWell, next chapter is for all the marbles, or most of them. If she clearly has features like Josh, well, that then leads into him putting that fear aside, enjoying time with her but later talking to Kimmy about the picture, the house, moving on without him and seeing how that goes. I do find Josh's reaction to Hyun potentially being with Kimmy interesting. Maybe its his fear and anxiety over Colleen covering it up, but after such a massive betrayal, you'd think the second potential betrayal with Hyun would mean more. Like he would focus on that more given he would immediately go to how close Hyun and Kimmy were near the end and obviously wonder if Kimmy was double cheating. Yet nothing. Maybe he doesn't care? Seems like an odd non reaction. Then again, maybe he just added a mental note to bring it up after discussing the picture. I will say that 3 chapters from Josh's POV is starting to disappoint me. We need something from Kimmy to balance this. The next chapter might be the perfect moment to switch so we can assess Kimmy's internal thoughts to Josh's reaction to seeing Colleen for the first time. Also thoughts on how he looks, how he's reacting around her... and best, if he starts asking questions about Hyun and the picture. I really want to see her emotions as Josh starts asking these questions.
L_S87
2024-07-27 18:01:33 +0000 UTCGood point Glaucon on Hyun. While there's a lot here, that was the biggest thing for me. Hyun sees Josh as a threat. There's probably also a good bit of guilt there, knowing what Josh went through and then stealing Kimmy from him, where she gets to enjoy Kimmy and this house while Josh so obviously struggles? Yeah, I could see a lot of dread in wondering how Josh will treat her, Kimmy wearing the ring again, and knowing she might lose what she's attained. Also knowing she attained it through very underhanded means at Josh's expense. Although I did have the thought that the baby might clearly look like Devlin, not be his, and Hyun is worried about how he'll react. I think that's unlikely, though. Much more likely she's just scared of Josh showing up, Kimmy wearing the ring, and worried Josh may upset her bliss.
L_S87
2024-07-27 17:50:44 +0000 UTCThe prices for homes in Ontario, especially the GTA are insane. 2 million is a typical price for something like what Kimmy bought. Houses in Ajax are selling for over a million, easy. Everything here is expensive. It’s very hard to be a first time home buyer in this area, in the city of Toronto itself it’s impossible. That’s why I’m wondering what Kimmy had to do to be able to afford her house, and be the basic breadwinner for Hyun, Sophie and Colleen, when Hyun is essentially a stay at home mom. On an unrelated note, Unionville is right next door to Kimmy’s dad in Markham.
Kat
2024-07-27 17:38:00 +0000 UTCEither way Kimmy looks bad. It's either bye Hyun and Sophie after everything you've done, I've got Josh back. Or, well Josh if you want me you will just have to now accept that I'm in a committed relationship with Hyun, so take it or leave it. It is after all, all about Kimmy
Chris K
2024-07-27 17:34:19 +0000 UTCI just feel sad after reading this. I think you’re right about life moving on. Kimmy has certainly moved on. Josh needs to, as well. While we’re still missing a lot of info, it seems she’s moved on quite nicely, with all her dreams coming true. I was hoping for a Cherry Blossoms type of ending, even if Colleen ended up being Devlin’s. It just feels like this whole book has been a slow walk to Josh’s destruction, and he doesn’t even know everything yet. Kimmy’s actions have only had consequences for Josh. I hope he can pick himself, be a dad and move on. I don’t see how much more story there is here, or much more that I can take emotionally. I know it sounds selfish, but this epilogue is killing me. 🙁
Kat
2024-07-27 17:15:06 +0000 UTCAlso interesting to me how much this chapter and the last few books have focused on class and financial status, especially regarding Kimmy's motives.
Glaucon
2024-07-27 17:09:20 +0000 UTCIs she a GG fan, or fan of native studies?
KT Morrison
2024-07-27 17:06:36 +0000 UTCStill waiting on the payoff of the last few books' repeated insistence by Kimmy that her big scheme is all "for Josh." Could the house and all this ultimately be for him as some sort of grand gesture atonement? Foreshadowing in the narrative to me resonates with her trying to do something big for Josh, whether or not it's received that way. Like "I've sold my soul for your benefit because I'm so irredeemable." But maybe that leads to him taking her back anyway. Would make sense that now Hyun is the one terrified about being used and left by Kimmy, in one way or another.
Glaucon
2024-07-27 17:06:10 +0000 UTCI think maybe 12 more chapters. it's hard to say. I'm glad I added one more book—I can take my time with this and really tighten the tension by making the epilog it's own story.
KT Morrison
2024-07-27 17:05:04 +0000 UTCKT when can we expect to see the next chapter? I want more. It's so good. By the way how many chapters left do you have planned?
Andrew Mellein
2024-07-27 17:02:39 +0000 UTCWhile the house is 2mil, I just want to point out that Canadian currency is valueless in the face of scarcity, forcing crazy prices right now. Technically, this chapter should take place in 2021 and the world would be locked down—but in a fictional 2021 with no pandemic, the same house would be maybe 1mil...? I used current prices to make sense for the present. And it's all location-location-location. The house itself wouldn't be some wild piece of architecture with all the amenities; just a real nice part of the world and close to the city.
KT Morrison
2024-07-27 17:02:25 +0000 UTCI'll tell my daughter about the title.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-27 17:02:22 +0000 UTCWhere does Kimmy work? Is it still with Devlin's company that he was setting up to breakaway from his father? I kind of of think Colleen is Josh's after reading this chapter. That's unless KT goes dark and does a switcheroo. Because why would Josh be invited to come, bring gifts, and see is supposed daughter in a moment like this. That is unless Kimmy was reverting back to being a sadist. Also caught that Josh knows about the expensive clothes Kimmy bought him! So something happened to Kimmy but she got off scott (supposedly) free. And last Meyer and Josh have some sort of joke and inkling that Hyun and Kimmy are lovers. But Josh doesn't seem to shook up or worried about it. Maybe he is worried about something else like the paternity of Colleen?
Andrew Mellein
2024-07-27 16:59:35 +0000 UTCBeautifully written, terrifyingly described. Tell Kimmy from me she looks divine... everything looks divine it seems... except for Hyun who oddly looks and feels like Josh. Please tell Kimmy's family I'm sorry I missed them. I'm intruding. I must leave... this is a special family occasion. I'm so sorry, I'm just a friend of Josh's... please excuse me... it was insensitive of me.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-07-27 16:53:19 +0000 UTCYeah, it’s kind of left me sitting here trying to parse the chapter and figure out what was revealed here that might have needed to be different.
JL23
2024-07-27 16:40:34 +0000 UTCThis story has taken a really weird swing. Why is Kimmy sitting so smug in a 2 mil house after discarding Josh like a piece of trash, living a life with Hyun, and then want him to see a daughter he hasn't seen any DNA results for? Why doesn't she just give him divorce papers? How much hurt and humiliation does she think Josh needs? Because this scene is the most humiliating thing she's done so far! "Look at this great life your not apart of, haha."
Chris K
2024-07-27 16:31:35 +0000 UTCI know the meaning of life is somewhere in that title!
Chris K
2024-07-27 16:03:20 +0000 UTCThink it was spelled Sookie, and character was played by Melissa McCarthy. Big fan of Gilmore Girls. I don’t remember the title reference, but definitely is fitting for the vibe in this chapter. Never have Kimmy and Josh seemed further apart than in his chapter, despite being in the same room together.
JL23
2024-07-27 15:56:18 +0000 UTCWhen all is said and done I hope you share some of these could-have-beens, if you're open to it.
Glaucon
2024-07-27 15:22:49 +0000 UTCHmm…glad for the chapter, but as always, more questions, and honestly I’m back to being unsettled. It’s back to appearing Josh has been the one keeping himself from seeing Colleen. He’s not sure the kid is his, but Kimmy appears to have wanted him to see her. Kimmy seems sad, but not a wreck seeing Josh. Sad maybe for what they have lost, and concerned for him, but with her guard up. Not like someone overwhelmed with joy at seeing him, but more like a loved one who’s disappointed her. But she’s wearing her wedding ring again. Genuine, or a show for Josh, to give him comfort so he doesn’t flee before seeing the baby? She’s living with Hyun and Sophie, perhaps her and Hyun are a couple. It seems like Kimmy has turned her life around and has a good job, good enough to buy a $2 mil house. No sign she’s under duress. And no sign she bought this house as an offering to Josh, of proving her worthiness to be his again. “But then, there was that man in the photo.” Devlin, someone else? Still don’t know, but the line would indicate Josh believes that’s who Kimmy is moving on with. That “man” doesn’t seem to be there now, but was he in the afternoon, with his arm around Kimmy while she showed her brand new house off? Is that why Josh didn’t want to come earlier? There was so much here, but I feel like it didn’t answer a single question as to what exactly is going on lol. Probably going to have to read it a few more times, but back to feeling like the first chapter. Kimmy, seemingly, is moving on, and whether she originally wanted to or not, she’s moving on from Josh. Still need to see Kimmy’s POV. Perhaps something else happened in her interactions with Josh around the time of her having the baby and now. Maybe she wanted Josh to return, and he just wasn’t in a mental state to do so, to be there for her and Colleen. Maybe, she met someone else, or bonded closely to Hyun, and since Josh was absent, well…life goes on. Again, there doesn’t feel much story left then. Josh meets the baby, hopefully it’s his and he can learn to be a father and move on. A chapter or two at best. I keep saying this, but hopefully the next chapter, Kimmy and Josh are alone for longer and can talk, or we can see all of this from Kimmy’s POV. Right now this doesn’t seem a HEA, or a dark ending, just a sad one. Maybe that’s more real life though. As much as we might love someone and want to be with them, sometimes the stars don’t align and we live happily ever after in Stars Hollow. If anyone has watched the Netflix sequel to Gilmore Girls, even the girls from Stars Hollow don’t really live a HEA. Our actions and mistakes have consequences, even ones we didn’t originally want. Maybe that is going to be the lesson to this epilogue.
JL23
2024-07-27 15:15:20 +0000 UTCI came across it reading about Stars Hollow and there was so much symbolism I had to name the chapter this. It’s roughly Algonquin dialect, meaning “you stay on your side, I stay on mine.” I love that. And it involves an ever-changing street name; the street historically hosted exiles (lepers and those with boils and sores); also, the episode where the street names are revealed is called “Welcome to the Doll House,” which reminds me of some of the symbolism of the doll house in Cherry Blossoms. Later in the series, the main character opens an inn on this street with a woman named Sookie (Sukie, anyone?). Plus, for fans of the occult, this episode is the 6th episode of the 6th season.
KT Morrison
2024-07-27 15:05:33 +0000 UTCIt has too much of gag in it to be a stubbed toe. Lmao
Abhinav Rai
2024-07-27 15:00:01 +0000 UTCHa ha ha. I stubbed my toe while dictating!
KT Morrison
2024-07-27 14:54:20 +0000 UTCSorry for the delay! I had a few second thoughts on the progress here and wanted to be sure about something before I would have to backtrack.
KT Morrison
2024-07-27 14:53:26 +0000 UTCLmao. I don’t know what to think of the title
Abhinav Rai
2024-07-27 14:53:15 +0000 UTC