DITW 15-17: Now We Know Good & Evil
Added 2024-10-24 21:41:19 +0000 UTCKimmy got over top of him and his hands went inside her open robe and onto her naked waist. Husband and wife alone on a Friday night, their baby with a sitter. Date night. This scenario’s implication was ripe with kink and debauchery. This was marital playtime. And it was only the two of them. It was intimate. A time for two married people to explore some fantasy realms for their own pleasure.
But why did it have to be that way? Why did it have to be so sinister? So kinky; so debauched?
Because he liked it that way.
Scar tissue had grown over the wounds of the past. Maybe the new and thicker tissue strengthened him. How could harm come to him with Devlin so far away?
Kimmy’s mouth slipped apart from his, and she stroked his cheek. She said, “I miss you more than anything. I’ve missed you so much this last year. I miss the times we shared more than any of the times I shared with Devlin.” The hand that stroked his cheek moved to his chest, and Kimmy ran her nails down his stomach, then grabbed his erection through his pants. “And I miss this dick more than I miss his.”
“I don’t think that’s true,” he said.
Kimmy looked at him, unsure, fondling his hardness—then smirked as if she decided he was joking. She said, “I think you miss it more than I do.”
“Miss what?”
She said, “I know you, Josh. I know that time when you thought it was just me and you, and Devlin was this sexual thing lurking outside our perimeter, you were at your happiest. You love the dirty talk. You love the things we did.”
“I know—I’m the one who said those things to you. But you made them true behind my back. Twisted reality with my kink to serve yourself. Not me. You served yourself.”
“You loved the things I did when they were fantasy.”
“You lied. You betrayed me,” he said.
“I did,” she said, studying him, sucking her plump lower lip and running her teeth across before letting the lip pop back out again. “But that’s all gone now, Josh. Washed away; the debris sent down the river. Right here and now is all that matters. I want to give you everything you want. And I know what you want.”
He closed his eyes. “I don’t even know what I want.”
“I’ll show you,” she said. “And you stop me when I’m wrong.” The hand that had stroked his cheek lay flat on his chest, then she dragged her nails down his stomach. She raised up and backed off of his body. She grabbed his belt with two hands, unbuckled it, opened his fly and drew down his zipper. With one strong movement, she pulled his pants down to his knees. His rock hard erection pointed to his chin, throbbing and aching. The fresh air touching the hot skin got him hissing a deep inward breath. Every iota of his being rushed between his legs like that was all that existed.
She lowered her eyes to his erection. His wife seeing it for the first time in a year. Measuring its inadequacy with her eyes, measuring the shortcoming in the task she needed it for. Her pleasure spots were tucked inside her where her husband couldn’t reach.
She said, “You miss Devlin’s cock more than I do, Josh. You love the idea of him fucking me. You love the idea of the pleasure his size would give me.”
He groaned with strange pleasure and a rising anger. No, not anger. Umbrage. A year later and he still had to hear about Devlin Stone. Still had to hear about this other man who’d done things to his wife her husband couldn’t do. Had to hear about it and hear his wife twist it into something for him to enjoy.
She gripped his thighs just above his knees, then ran her nails up to his hips and he almost passed out. He shuddered and his fingers trembled. He could feel her breath against his cock.
“You wish you could do to me what he did.”
Josh groaned again, louder now, hating her words. Her words angered him. But while they did, they also brought something slick and oily that coated his skin and seeped into his pores, nourished parts of him with an indescribable pleasure.
Over her shoulder now he could see on the dresser that Devlin replica. That enormous fleshy cudgel. The effigy of the real over-sized implement that had fucked his wife senseless countless times last summer. The one his wife had come on over and over again. The one that had touched some trigger inside her. He closed his eyes tight and rolled his vision upward. Kimmy’s tongue pressed between his testicles, shoving them to the sides, then running a flat swath up the middle of his shaft and to the tip of his cock. Her hand took the base, two fingers and a thumb, angled it upward and sunk him inside her mouth. The most heavenly feeling he’d ever had. Her mouth was warm and wet, and when it moved against his turgid arousal, his whole body tightened and bright blobs of light danced in the charcoal landscape of his shut-off vision. She drew her mouth up and down, her cheeks hollowing with the exquisite suction.
When they’d first reunited last week, Kimmy had seduced him in the apartment above the garage. She’d tried luring him to bed with nefarious conjecture and innuendo. All day today, he’d anticipated tonight’s intimate possibilities, wondering if it would happen. Knowing it probably would. But he hadn’t anticipated how it would happen. The default fantasy would be him and his wife rolling around in the sheets, kissing, and then making love. Instead, it was the same sadistic games they’d played a year ago.
He hadn’t been with anyone in over a year. He’d come close to it with Karina, but nothing ever happened. They’d kissed, he’d handled her breasts; he’d even slipped a hand down her pants. But nothing had progressed. Everything had been stunted. Muffled.
Kimmy’s mouth worked masterful pleasure. She knew exactly how to bring him to the brink of ecstasy and then pull him back, teasing him until he couldn’t take it anymore. Her lips were slick cushions, her tongue nimble. She took his hardness deep, sucking and swirling her tongue around the base, then pulling back slowly, drawing the ring of her lips to the tip, before plunging him into her mouth again.
Josh’s eyes rolled back in his head as he let out a low moan. He couldn’t believe how good it felt, how skilled Kimmy was at this. And . . . how she’d done this kind of thing for another man. Wicked thoughts teased him. She’d been sucking cock for the last year. Sucking other men’s cocks. She’d sucked off everyone at Stone; every lawyer, every client, every foreign businessman. Kimmy landed contract after contract for Keith Stone because no one could suck a cock like her.
His hands went to trembling fists as this awful imagined scenario did the work he liked, got his balls climbing into his body, getting ready to gush their load into his delivery systems. He held his breath tight in his quaking chest, sucking in his stomach, reeling those perverted thoughts back, not wanting to come so soon, not wanting to disappoint his wife and ruin her night of sex with a premature release.
But Kimmy moved her head up and down, picking up the pace. His hips bucked involuntarily, his body responding without his approval. Tension doubled inside him. The pressure mounted as she brought him closer and closer to the edge and seemed willing for him to go over.
Now he rushed to push away the thoughts of her sucking off clients, sucking cocks for financial gain. But it left him thinking of Kimmy sucking Devlin’s cock. Sucking Devlin off in Cayman while her husband waited for her in the hot tub. A chump. A cuck. A man whose wife ran games around his impotent ass.
His breathing went ragged as he rumbled closer and closer to the knife-edge point of no return. He tried to hold back, to make it last as long as possible, but it was no use. Kimmy’s mouth was too good, her skill too perfect.
With one final, deep thrust, this time of his own propulsion, he let go, his body convulsing as he began to ejaculate in Kimmy’s perfect, beautiful mouth. Kimmy pulled away, smiling wide with her wet lips, a satisfied sound in her throat as she watched him come. Her hand stroked his cock as his semen spurted, painting creamy lines on his trembling stomach. The moment was incredible, the release so powerful. But as it receded, he was left with guilt and shame. Kimmy stroked his dick. It looked so unimpressive in her hand. He’d seen her wrap those long and elegant fingers around Devlin’s beefy girth. His head fell back, the crown hanging between his shoulder blades. The happiness and feelings of explosive joy waned to nothing, and his eyes fluttered open to stare at their new bedroom’s ceiling. Kimmy played with his softening penis, but he was too sick to look at it again, see its size in her hand, knowing the size that turned her on, knowing the size she liked.
He sighed, anguished and saddened by the state of things. Kimmy would have kept sucking Devlin’s cock. He bet she let him come in her mouth. Bet she loved the taste of his semen on a Wednesday afternoon lunchtime fuck session behind her husband’s back. The fading of his hardness ceased. These awful thoughts piqued his cock’s interest.
Maybe Kimmy was right. Maybe she knew what he liked and maybe surrendering to her wickedness would bring him satisfaction he couldn’t imagine. As long as she was faithful.
He sighed again, but the post-orgasm ennui had settled, and he didn’t feel so bad anymore. He raised his face to see Kimmy standing now, letting that silky robe fall off her smooth shoulders and show him her body. His wife was a mother now, but she looked much like she had during last summer’s horror. Her lean body and long limbs; the perky little breasts, the tawny skin. He smiled, seeing something in her eyes that he liked. For the first time, maybe not so ashamed of his own desire.
He didn’t have to ask her for this. He didn’t have to skirt around the ways to frame this kink he’d developed. It was out in the open. It was fair game, and shame was observed at a different scale than it had before. The details of his bizarre arousal were known to all. She knew what he liked and she could deliver.
He could lament how now when they’re united in intimacy, they’re not making love and writhing in the sheets, they’re playing games and toying with the darkness that separated them in the first place—but he could also accept the state of his being and move on.
Pearly islands scattered on the flat plain of his stomach.
Kimmy, totally naked now and fully aware of how good she looked, said, “It didn’t take very long, did it?”
The answer was obvious. He would say, Did Devlin last longer? And then Kimmy would tell him about the marathon fuck sessions she and Devlin used to embark upon. His cock hardened further. He kept the question from his tongue, still wary of embarrassing himself.
Kimmy turned to the dresser, and he thought for a second she would bring over that Devlin replica and compare it to his own erection, so they could both see the dimensional difference between her husband and her accomplished lover. The way she’d done with the actual flesh and blood cock monstrosity in that Yorkville hotel room. But Kimmy returned with a pair of pale yellow cotton undies from her drawer. She hip-sat beside him on the bed, smiling an honestly happy smile, and patted up the splatter, wiping his evidence away before tossing the underwear toward the bathroom door. She said, “You’re still hard.”
“I took a year off,” he said, like an explanation for his immediate arousal in case she knew the perverted thoughts that has quickened his pulse and flooded his erectile tissue.
“We have a lot to catch up on,” she said, slinking along beside his body and beginning to remove his shirt and sweater. He assisted her, and they got him as naked as she was, both of them on top of the sheets and bedding. She began kissing him again, and though he still felt stiff and awkward with her, he could feel his joints warming up and his heart beating faster, wanting more and more from her. Kimmy rolled so she was on top of him, straddling his hips, the point of his erection touching an ass cheek. Her long, silky black hair fell around his face as she lowered her mouth to his, kissing him lovingly and touching his face.
Then they worked the bedding out from under them, getting themselves under the sheets and cozying against each other. There was an indescribable joy and homeliness to feeling her naked against his nakedness. The places where she was cool; the places where she was warm; the places where she was hot and wet and sticky. His hands went all over her body, finding their way to the top of her thighs, just below the crease of her buttocks, the place that used to get her excited. She squirmed and sighed and moaned and she kissed him some more. Her hand found his genitals, and she caressed and coddled his sack and stroked his hardening cock.
She asked him, “You came so fast—you’re ready to go again?”
He nodded, looking into her eyes, seeking courage to ask what he suspected she wanted him to ask. He said, “You didn’t want me to come in your mouth?”
“I wanted to see you come, baby,” she said, and kissed his chin, stroking his cock underhanded.
He said, “Did he come . . . Did he ever come in your mouth?”
Once the question was out, his cock went to steel. She hadn’t even answered him yet.
Kimmy chuckled an appreciative sound, feeling his cock swell in her hand. She said, “Yeah, he did, Josh. He came in my mouth.”
His knees squeezed together, and his cock spewed slippery excitement into Kimmy’s grip. She stroked him faster.
She whispered, “Devlin came in my mouth and you tasted it.”
He groaned with the most awful, exciting joy. His heart pounded and disgust flooded his mind. He said, “What? What do you mean?”
She said, “I’d suck off that huge cock and then I’d come home and kiss you on the mouth.” Her grip tightened on his cock, electric pleasure thrumming from his pleasure point and throughout his body. He coughed and groaned and writhed while she jerked his cock and followed his twisting head, whispering some more wickedness in his frightened ears. “And he’d fuck me, too, Josh, and blow his thick load so deep inside me. . . . And I’d come home and let you eat my pussy.”
“What?” He gasped, horrified. “You did?”
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"Josh studied her, his soft eyes roaming her naked body, wondering if she told him the truth. And what would he think of her if he deemed her truthful? That she was good? That she was noble? Maybe he would hear this confession as sin. As a promise of her powerful malice. It could frighten him
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-30 03:50:26 +0000 UTCIn a lucid dream Colin Farrell dressed in a full body suit and prosthetic face wearing, as was his wont, only an unbuttoned shirt and swinging a sturdy cudgel between his legs played the part of Devlin Stone. Chris Evans CGI-ed as scant Steve Rogers BEFORE he was super soldiered stood in for Josh... and the real Kimmy... Mari Yamamoto teased them unashamedly with her nakedness as the trailer for season one of DITW was filmed. All the actors looked much younger than they should have...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-29 11:26:54 +0000 UTCRe "But it's very typical? Expected? The way this is going I can't tell it apart from any other ACHE author." Yet it's still not exactly the hotwife sanctity of matrimony is it? Where they kiss the boo boo and 'Amor vincit omnia is all they wrote,' is it Chris? I'm still intrigued about DITW... how about you? Long live the half life of 50's US TV... It still has virtual reality in its clutches... offering insubstantial means of escape. Wish fulfilment... Paah! I fart in eets general direcceeon! Although maybe if I made an 'educated wish' it would re-establish 'the sacred timeline!"
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-27 04:00:33 +0000 UTCA man who honours his principles. I still fondly remember " Kolchack: The Night Stalker"...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-26 20:48:28 +0000 UTCWhen I said Amazon I was being tactful... the big A is a polite denomination...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-26 01:51:10 +0000 UTCStill waters run deep... because we receive more small snippets of Josh's thoughts than anyone else, doesn't mean he is shallow... as you observe, Pete, his eccentric actions speak much louder than words. Though Kimmy seems all tough exterior I think that Josh could slide an unintentional revelatory verbal stiletto between the edges of her cynical carapace and wound her heart irreparably. Then for once the thick trickle down her thigh would be more vital to her than Devlin's hurtful spunk. Josh is no longer safely tucked away inside Kimmy's stylish pocket.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 21:22:07 +0000 UTCYeah, as much as I love the ease of access for all the Kindle Unlimited books I read or simply buy outright, Amazon's policies regarding "acceptability" of subjects or books is cloudy at best, and downright bigoted at times at the worst. Especially given there rarely is any recourse if they make a decision on anything from posting a review to uploading a book. They make arbitrary decisions and getting ahold of someone that actually has a clue or power to change something may as well be impossible with how difficult it is. I stopped reviewing anything on Amazon after a particular experience and I can only imagine how awful it is for someone like KT to navigate the red tape.
L_S87
2024-10-25 20:54:22 +0000 UTCAmazon...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 20:42:37 +0000 UTCI think maybe he means the author?
Kat
2024-10-25 20:16:36 +0000 UTCThe big "A" Bill? Could you elaborate?
Pete
2024-10-25 18:13:50 +0000 UTCGreat points by all. One thing I'm still struggling to sort is all the instances where Josh's words and behavior hasn't made sense. For example, I never expected Josh to jerk off into Kimmy's panties, or not confront Kimmy once he found her panties, or wear those panties for Devlin, or show that he was wearing those panties to Devlin, even though Devlin never asked, or demand that his bully fuck his wife right in front of him, or let his wife position his bully's cock on top of his, directly illustrating for his own wife (and all 3 of them) just how inferior his cock is to Devlins, or, or, or. I end that way, because I'm sure you all have several other situations or reactions that didn't make sense for you, and I think some of you have mentioned them in the past. What if all that IS consistent with who Josh is. I guess I'm suggesting that maybe Josh should be looked at as an addict (of his kink). Bear with me. Think about Josh. Skilled in denial and avoidance. Tells rational lies to himself and others. Acts irrationally (see examples above). And shame and fear are his most common bedmates. Aren't those traits of an addict? I guess I'm just thinking that this lens of addict may help us more holistically understand ALL of Josh's actions.
Pete
2024-10-25 18:11:09 +0000 UTCIt could be Hyun. She seemed really upset in the kitchen. Josh is referring to her as their babysitter and their roommate. I think finding out the truth could do something. Maybe Hyun will turn on Kimmy? She may not know the whole story, too. She says Kimmy told her everything, but as we know, Kimmy tends to leave out the parts which are really bad for her. Who knows? There’s not much time left for a big twist. :(
Kat
2024-10-25 17:34:55 +0000 UTCL_S, I will reluctantly succumb to boredom and stop buying them... there are plenty of brilliant books left to read and life grows shorter daily. Why hide my head in a hole in the ground when the funeral pyre awaits... No rest for the wicked till the 'fade to black' slams silently shut like a backdoor marked exit. All stories are the same (according to the 'experts'), like jokes, it's the way ya tellum!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 17:25:38 +0000 UTCWhen, in the Heart of Darkness, Kurtz looks on the Hell he has created in the Congo he says, "The horror, the horror!" it's difficult to know if in extremis he is referring to the savagery roiling beneath the Colonial veneer... or the 'woman' he fled from in his European 'home'. Then there is the image of Brando broken by 'the sorrows of empire' clasping his sweat and filth streaked bald camouflaged head... In anguish, despair or resignation? Cryptic colouration...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 16:52:01 +0000 UTCYou’ve all made good points. It slipped my mind about the lack of trust that’s still there between Josh and Kimmy. Kimmy is walking on eggshells, because she fears losing Josh again, and Josh hasn’t been back with her long enough to trust her. She did so many terrible things to him, betrayed him in unforgivable ways, it’s easy to understand why he can’t trust her. My point was that he loved the fantasy. He still loves the fantasy. In the hotel, he asked her to make his dreams true, and she did. He nearly killed himself afterwards, because the truth in living colour was a horror for him, a horror that still turned him on. Still, a year later, he’s going back to those fantasies made true by Kimmy. He still wants them, but without the betrayal. He asked Kimmy to tell him the truth. Granted, she could have started off with the truth a little more gently, but Josh now needs this stuff to get off. He loves it and hates it. He also loves Kimmy, but doesn’t trust her. She’s only doing what she thinks he wants. It turns her on, too. It’s probably also freeing for her to confess in a way that (she thinks) works for both of them. They can’t go back. This is who they are now.
Kat
2024-10-25 14:54:57 +0000 UTCYeah, thinking something could be real, and then finding out it actually all was real, are 2 very different things. I guess I read a lot of this chapter as Josh putting his faith in Kimmy, to tell him the truth but also to know where the lines are better than him moving forward. As I said, the hurt, shame, betrayal, humiliation, etc is always going to be mixed in there for Josh. If they can get to a place where everything is laid out, there are no more secrets, then perhaps they can put all this in a lockbox where only they have the keys, and they both choose when to lock and unlock it. Assuming they can get there, the other challenge, as it generally is with the cuckold in these stories, will be whether this is enough, or if there is going to be constant temptation to ramp things up more and more, and how they both handle that and still maintain a "partnership" in this. That is probably not an answer we are going to get in this story, but one I'd speculate about. Eventually, I don't think this "safer" game will be enough for either of them.
JL23
2024-10-25 14:28:38 +0000 UTCTo be fair to Josh, or at least from my POV, his struggles have to do with a lack of trust in Kimmy (because they haven't had nearly enough time together for that to be earned and to truly be where they're at) and a struggle with melding fantasy with reality. While Kimmy is still a lying bitch about many things, in this book regarding Keith and Hyun, she *is* being very truthful here. She's giving him the truth he asked for. No lies and no evasions. So far. And I think Josh is struggling because it was "fun" when he could tell himself it was fake, a fantasy. Now he knows all these things are true. She did all of them for real. And while it turns him on, it also hurts, a lot. Because he can't just enjoy the dark playfulness she's offering, it also makes him have to ponder that if he wasn't good enough before, then how can he possibly believe her when she says he's good enough now? She did all those things for herself, because she was getting something Josh couldn't give. Yet he's supposed to trust she no longer needs to scratch that itch that she happily ruined her marriage for? He's probably also struggling with the fact that this is his doing. He asked for this. So she's giving it to him. Well before they're actually emotionally stable enough for it to not cause a catastrophe.
L_S87
2024-10-25 11:08:14 +0000 UTCPete, big twist probably makes more sense, although it could be both. There's always the possibility of something showing up that Kimmy has lied by ommission about that she then shares. Like Hyun (not saying that should be the reveal, only that Josh has been lied to about that, so there could be other things)
L_S87
2024-10-25 09:44:53 +0000 UTCBill, to be fair to those people, many read something because they like the story the author is telling. If the author constantly ends the story in a way the person doesn't like, they'll simply stop reading. As I'm sure any author can attest, no readers equals no money, so catering to your audience makes sense. Although I do get your point that if it feels like your favorite authors are changing their story to something you specifically don't like to appease others, now you're in the position of having to dislike the story and choose whether to keep reading or not.
L_S87
2024-10-25 09:41:52 +0000 UTC"Instead, it was the same sadistic games they’d played a year ago."
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 08:40:50 +0000 UTC"Kimmy landed contract after contract for Keith Stone because no one could suck a cock like her." Whose wishful thoughts?
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 08:30:10 +0000 UTC"Measuring its inadequacy with her eyes, measuring the shortcoming in the task she needed it for."
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 08:26:24 +0000 UTCI do find it super confusing what Josh wants. Josh's mind is so muddled. In this scene, I believe he even outright says that he doesn't know what he wants. I feel like shaking the bloke, "Dude, make a damn decision. Stop expecting your wife to read your effin mind, and see some boundary that you yourself can't even see." I swear, if she accidentally crosses this clearly obscure line, and he slut shames her for it yet again... I.... I just don't have words.
Pete
2024-10-25 03:41:25 +0000 UTCAlso Kat as I have always believed manipulation is a language skill we all use... it's hardly surprising he's learnt from a mistress... Despite popular belief 'you' do play a player. If you don't you ought to...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 03:38:59 +0000 UTCA big reveal? Or a big twist?
Pete
2024-10-25 03:16:14 +0000 UTCHey, Andrew, have you been watching "Grotesquerie"? So Josh is neither normal nor a cuckold but he does love Colleen. Pride oft comes before a fall. Or is it once a cuckold always a cuckold, or is there just a high incidence of recidivism?
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 03:07:44 +0000 UTCSo I've noticed Chris, and not just her, it's a general noxious trend... Readers who have prejudices about writers tailoring stories to their needs are ruining my favourite authors. Of course, its the big A that twists the thumb screws.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 03:00:35 +0000 UTCI vote for one more big reveal. :)
Kat
2024-10-25 02:57:58 +0000 UTCAlso as Pete suggested it wouldn't be impossible for him to have his daughter and, as I think would be delicious irony, and take his cynical wife for all the exotic eroticism he can get... even get his cold dish served. Not that I condone it, but there's them that would. Honesty among thieves?
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 02:31:36 +0000 UTCThe showrunner, David Chase, just had a two episode special on the making of the Sopranos. Just as he was explaining the ending, that show also cut to black.
Donkatsu
2024-10-25 02:27:04 +0000 UTCFun fact. I had an exchange with Kirsten McCurran about HEAs. She does not like them for some of her stories! Lol. But, because of fans demands (and her husband), she writes them, while cringing!!
Chris K
2024-10-25 02:25:55 +0000 UTCI certainly hope so. And I'm certainly ready for it!
Chris K
2024-10-25 02:22:41 +0000 UTCHave watched the Series twice and stand by the strength of the ending too. The cut to black was eloquent as fuck... like Tony didn't know what hit him! But we know when...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 02:10:13 +0000 UTCI almost wrote the same thing, but pulled back because it felt like I was passing judgement instead of waiting like I said I would. While we're almost done, there's still a number of unresolved issues, so it will be interesting to see if they stay that way or are addressed in some form or fashion. Like you, if things continue this way, it will feel somewhat disappointing that this series, which was so far outside of the norm for a lot of it, and how dark and daring it was, to basically end in a ho-hum fashion. If it does. I'm hoping KT has one more big reveal to drop on us. She's great at those.
L_S87
2024-10-25 02:04:47 +0000 UTCI haven't even finished Infinite Jest yet, he's a clever witty writer but the displacement and ballast of his themes make it easier for me to be titillated and drawn off after the prizes of flightier or more informative vessels. I never give an opinion on a promising work until I've read it all the way through... So, sorry...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 02:04:15 +0000 UTCDon’t do it, KT, please! Lol
Kat
2024-10-25 01:55:29 +0000 UTCIt is well written. No doubt about that. But it's very typical? Expected? The way this is going I can't tell it apart from any other ACHE author.
Chris K
2024-10-25 01:38:44 +0000 UTCThat line struck me too, Bill. Mostly because it's bullshit. Not the sentiment, only it working for them at this point. That path only works with trust and truth. Something they don't have at all. Just a few chapters ago Kimmy was lying up a storm to him. Josh was barely able to stop her the first time with Devlin, and only after she completely destroyed them with lies and betrayal. Him stopping her only works if he can trust her to tell him everything so he can say no when it's too much. But that's never how she plays the game. So it's a false premise to assume Josh has any sort of power to stop her if she goes to far. It's purely reliant on her to sacrifice her wants for his well being. I have my doubts on that ever working out.
L_S87
2024-10-25 01:33:46 +0000 UTCMm, I watched every Sopranos episode and loved the series ending...
KT Morrison
2024-10-25 01:32:25 +0000 UTCYou know: I've never read DFW yet! I think I would like him, but I've never given him a go...
KT Morrison
2024-10-25 01:28:42 +0000 UTCI'm going to wait for the next chapter before I fully formulate an opinion on this. It's insanely well written from the standpoint of how quickly and deeply Josh is once again allowing himself to fall into the depravity Kimmy so happily provides. From that standpoint it's spectacular. I have serious misgivings from a broader viewpoint in how easily this is happening as it feels less about Josh embracing his darkness and Kimmy lovingly helping him and more that this is simply the most expedient path for Kimmy to "win". Given this current path, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Devlin does make another appearance. I don't know if I see it as a guarantee, but the ease with which so much else has been laid at Kimmy's feet with minimal effort, it almost feels fitting. I don't know if it would make sense given her "I only love you and only want what's right for you" story she's telling, but so much else about this last book has been haphazard at times that it feels almost inevitable for something like that to happen. I can't wait to see how it ends. Wonder what the epilogue will look like.
L_S87
2024-10-25 01:26:57 +0000 UTCI agree with you that this is something they both can’t give up. It’s one of the things that binds them together. Kimmy has taken it too far before, but I doubt anything she’s said here will make Josh leave. He wanted the fantasy made true, with faithfulness. That’s what she’s now offering him. Well, faithfulness if you don’t count Hyun. Lol
Kat
2024-10-25 01:13:38 +0000 UTCUh huh
Chris K
2024-10-25 00:41:32 +0000 UTCWell worth waiting for and I have a gut feeling the 'best' is yet to come...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 00:30:44 +0000 UTCI don't think he's really changed Kat. All of these feelings are mixed up into one murky and explosive substance coursing through his veins. It just needs to be mixed properly to avoid blowing him up, in a metaphorical sense. To take a positive view, in a way he's putting a level of trust in Kimmy to know where the line is, that maybe she does know better than him. But in a negative spin, does she? We've seen her think she does before, only to step over that line. That could still happen here. I personally would find it exhausting, but I think it drives both their engines to a point they can't give it up.
JL23
2024-10-25 00:20:22 +0000 UTC“I’ll show you,” she said. “And you stop me when I’m wrong.” "Eaten up with guilt, shame, fears and insecurities and obtaining, if he’s lucky, a barely perceptible physical feeling, the male is, nonetheless, obsessed with screwing; he’ll swim through a river of snot, wade nostril-deep through a mile of vomit, if he thinks there’ll be a friendly pussy awaiting him." Solanas, Valerie. SCUM Manifesto
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 00:12:58 +0000 UTC"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." David Foster Wallace, Infinite Jest
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-25 00:09:49 +0000 UTCPerhaps the "page turner" will earn Kimmy a hands free spontaneous miniature volcanic eruption science projection prize!
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-24 23:59:37 +0000 UTCI guess she had to start by reminding Josh where he stands on the sexual totem pole. What's in it for her sexually if she does not take this taunting show on the road? She has told Josh he can give her psychic sexual income (plus a good muff dive every now and then). But psychic income does not spin the orgasm machine. Her previous psychic income came at the end of the real thing, delivered by Devlin. We're rewatching the Sopranos right now and I wonder if this series, like that one, will end with a sudden cut to black, just as we maybe, kinda, sorta, saw Devlin reenter the scene.
Donkatsu
2024-10-24 23:52:44 +0000 UTCInstalment jam packed with womanly indecency to incite all the outrage and umbrage that Kimmy's unpardonably wicked transgressions so richly deserve... flagellation is too good for her...
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-24 23:41:49 +0000 UTCYet knowing good and evil do we know everything?
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-24 23:29:18 +0000 UTCI have a feeling everybody is getting what they want... going to feel justified in one way or another. I am going to probably kind of have to apologise to CSH without resorting to any mealy mouthed qualifications or glib disqualifications. 'I' apparently am easily pleased by you... but we'll see what we shall see without my having to unsee anything I've gleefully read written by you in the stagnant and tide waxed or waned waters up to now... and maybe even speculatively gaze on Kimmy's vainglorious wake nostalgically. People frequently boast they can read others like a book.
Bill F Protagoras
2024-10-24 23:27:03 +0000 UTCAny normal man who doesn't want to be a cuckold would totally split after Kimmy's revelation. And immediately file for divorce. I bet he stays there.
Andrew Mellein
2024-10-24 23:16:30 +0000 UTCWhat I don’t get is how Josh was itching for this kind of stuff in the earlier chapters, but now that he’s getting it he’s unsure, uncomfortable with it. This is what he wanted, the fantasy without the cheating. He asked her to talk about Devlin. She didn’t bring it up first. In Chapter 14, “(he was) scared to reunite with the Kimmy of before. The mild-mannered one. The kind one. The one he married. That Kimmy made him feel uncomfortable now. He wouldn’t know how to act with that one. The Kimmy who’d set him on fire last year and burned him to a crisp...? Now that one excited him.” In Chapter 15, “And now that he’d kissed her, sucked on her neck, told her he wanted her and wanted to stay, that dark part of his mind knew the bad things he loved would soon come his way.” He wanted just what Kimmy gave him. He asked her to be honest with him, too. He has to find a way to get his shame under control or he’s going to wreck this reunion. Kimmy wants him, only him. We saw her break it off with Hyun. She burned Devlin, and took his job. I’m kind of siding with Kimmy here. Josh needs to figure out what he wants. Kimmy is trying to give him what he’s been wanting all night. How should she act? He said he didn’t want the Kimmy from before. As for the big reveal at the end, he had to have figured that out already on his own. Hearing it come from Kimmy’s mouth is another story. I’m now more curious about Hyun. What went on with them in the last year, and will Josh ever find out?
Kat
2024-10-24 23:13:01 +0000 UTCYay! I can’t wait to read this.
Kat
2024-10-24 22:00:15 +0000 UTCWell, there's another revelation I know some people were waiting for. Appears we're settling all business. I guess this is where I can't get myself totally in the mind of a cuckold. Josh loves this, hates this, loves that he hates it, and hates that he loves it...all at the same time. It seems exhausting lol. Again, I'm not Josh but I'm really not totally sure to be happy or sad for him. Maybe it's both? Anyway, feels like the last the big secret left is Hyun. We'll see if that's coming next.
JL23
2024-10-24 21:58:12 +0000 UTC