SHHG! Episode 11: Island Builder City Simulator Game
Added 2023-07-28 14:00:10 +0000 UTCThe Hunger Games chapters 23-25
How did both of us manage to go 15 years without learning what the big twist of this book was?
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this ep is an all timer for sure.
mouse girl extraordinaire
2023-08-04 00:29:49 +0000 UTCWhen I heard Xeecee say "iblis trigger" I knew what was up.
Seanald McDoodle
2023-08-01 19:39:47 +0000 UTCThe most interesting thing for me, as someone who has NO idea what the fandom consensus on anything in this series is, is hearing Liz and Xeecee converge on Peeta being an asshole. Maybe it was a mix of me being gullible as a teen and Josh Hutcherson smoothing over the character's edges (and Woody Harrelson probably played a part too) but I was surprised that that was the podcast's take. Another weird thing: I haaaaaaated the romance when I was a teen, but was weirdly more receptive to it reading it as an adult? I might've overcorrected and graded it on a curve.
Lambda
2023-07-31 06:35:56 +0000 UTCI’m smiling ear to ear waiting for the next episode. You’re not out of the woods on insane stuff yet…
Zachary Coleman
2023-07-30 17:07:28 +0000 UTC"Iblis Trigger" fully shut down my computer. just absolutely crashed it .
Faith Meyers
2023-07-30 15:55:46 +0000 UTCThe combo of Werewolves, Crank Palace and the Iblis Trigger really gave this one a powerful kick
Spaghetto!!!
2023-07-30 05:49:13 +0000 UTCi was a little distracted at that point of the episode and just sort of figured that’s what happened honestly, as i tried to fill in the gaps (instead of simply, say, rewinding a little to re-listen or pausing or things of this nature,) and now i’m like, damn it. it’s weird that’s not it.
superboo
2023-07-29 23:09:11 +0000 UTCsmdh the book's been hinting at the werewolves since the start! Katniss is the Girl On Fire! and what color fire is represented as? RED! That's Right! This has been a Red Riding Hood Modern Retelling this entire goddamn time—
Mona
2023-07-29 17:18:21 +0000 UTC'CRANK PALACE is REAL' -The Shriekcast, 2023
J G
2023-07-29 16:09:38 +0000 UTCI don’t think it does, just because I don’t think the wolves actually matter beyond their one scene. Another reason I don’t think of it as “the big twist”.
Ryan
2023-07-29 15:50:46 +0000 UTCThe werewolves bit, I always assumed was that they had these animals (made up animals? like how they started raining fire down upon her earlier), which had been changed so that they looked like dead tributes. Just as a way of really fucking with the people left. And the book makes a lot more sense when you think that at every turn, the Capital wants Katniss to turn blood hungry and kill Peeta and she hasn't.
Joshua Smith
2023-07-29 15:35:11 +0000 UTCohhhh okay i understand now. it was all a big misunderstanding, the bonus interview was MEANT to be titled "Writing about Warwolves" shame the editor didn't catch that mistake
Femmoo
2023-07-29 12:56:39 +0000 UTCCrank Palace is the new common room
A sudden absence of bees
2023-07-29 09:55:57 +0000 UTCIt's a very different type of podcast
A sudden absence of bees
2023-07-29 09:53:27 +0000 UTCThe difficult thing here--sort of a running question we've had about the book--is what is really meant, in Katniss's narration, to truly be an open question and what is exposition framed as a question, kinda like all the Peeta motivation speculation stuff. We'll see! Still got some chapters left though so there's still a chance this could get clarified
The Shrieking Shack
2023-07-29 08:49:22 +0000 UTCI've read this whole series twice and while I did remember there being some sort of canines in this part I didn't remember them being Annihilation monsters at all. wtf. I thought they were just strong dogs.
GloomLoom
2023-07-29 08:26:53 +0000 UTCI never thought of the wolves as “the big twist” or even really a twist at all. It was just one more gonzo thing that happened, which is probably it never got spoiled. It doesn’t really elucidate anything about earlier events that would make them read differently, which I think a twist needs. This might be because my read (I don’t know if this is stated in the books or just how I read them at the time) was that the tributes were not literally resurrected, just that wolves were spliced with their DNA to give them certain physical features. Edit: found a totally legal copy of the book, and it looks like when Peeta and Katniss are looking at them they speculate them might Frankenstein type creatures using parts of the dead tributes, the line about them having memories is Katniss speculating that they might have used parts of their brains. But this is phrased as a question, so I don’t know if that’s meant to be taken as true.
Ryan
2023-07-29 06:04:05 +0000 UTCOh, I really like that. They black out at the end of the chapter and wake up victors
The Shrieking Shack
2023-07-29 01:49:48 +0000 UTCI think what might have made the final take back from the Capital work better is if they let Katniss and Peeta eat the berries because they didn't think they'd both do it, and then were forced to use some advanced capital healing stuff to hastily salvage any winners at all
Genesis
2023-07-29 00:29:10 +0000 UTCI think this is a Shriekcast first for me, but I had to stop the podcast and take some time to recover upon hearing "it's all the dead tributes brought back as werewolves"
BuoyantTrain37
2023-07-29 00:26:07 +0000 UTCI did a double take and immediately paused and looked it up cuz I was like I’m 99% sure that’s a fucking Sonic thing. Incredible
Mikkorama ASMR
2023-07-29 00:23:41 +0000 UTCActually god Sonic 06 with Elise as the protagonist is peak YA trash. You could probably throw in like ship wars with which hedgehog she ends up with too
Kzinssie
2023-07-28 23:31:25 +0000 UTCWARNING: There are spoilers for later in the series that absolutely won't be nonsense, but idk if they're the type of thing people talk about the way they talk about eg Snape killing Dumbledore
Lambda
2023-07-28 22:22:17 +0000 UTCThe thing about the first hunger games novel is that it's like 80% set up. In the second book Suzanne Colins goes 'well we all know why we're here' and dials things up to 100. It means the movie has an advantage because it can pull from other books and smooth out the 'showing but not telling' bits that the author stumbled over in the book. With that being said, you'll have a different viewing experience reading all the books first then watching the movies.
cem
2023-07-28 21:10:18 +0000 UTCHearing you namedrop the Iblis Trigger like it's nothing made me fucking cough up my dinner as the #1 Sonic the Hedgehog garbage eater Honestly should have just filed the serial numbers off Sonic 06's plot it would have fit right in
Kzinssie
2023-07-28 20:50:07 +0000 UTCThe better way to introduce the take backsies would be for the rule change to get dropped while Cato has Peeta dangling above the werewolves, right? Like have it be a split second thing where she has this golden opportunity but can't take it
Kzinssie
2023-07-28 20:38:10 +0000 UTCi know that mf tribute ate a cheese
Shift
2023-07-28 20:31:36 +0000 UTCfoxface was standing there going Oogh. Ugh. Agh. Ugh. Oogh. Agh. until her HP ran out
The Shrieking Shack
2023-07-28 20:13:25 +0000 UTCYeah, the Underland Chronicles has def been on my radar ever since I read about it--would love to know what the lesser-known Collins book is and how different/similar it is!
The Shrieking Shack
2023-07-28 20:12:15 +0000 UTCthis dog is fucked up bruh
Kzinssie
2023-07-28 20:12:00 +0000 UTChee hee hee that's right
The Shrieking Shack
2023-07-28 20:10:25 +0000 UTCI also thought you were describing This dog https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/430/494/e05
kyssimmee
2023-07-28 18:47:15 +0000 UTCi also have been shielded from this plot twist so when i wrote up that whole thing last week about this book's problem with its conception of violence and how that relates to tone i could not have imagined that the followup to that would be foxface dying a tom and jerry death and then the plot immediately transitioning to being Dog Soldiers
Shift
2023-07-28 18:41:34 +0000 UTCI mouthed "What?" "What?" "What?" when Liz read the summary, I promise it's not just you guys I think all of society has conspired to hide this plot point from the world
kyssimmee
2023-07-28 18:34:55 +0000 UTCI only guessed right in the final segment cause I vaguely remembered "Iblis Trigger" being a villain from Sonic '06
Archie
2023-07-28 18:26:45 +0000 UTCCommenting from my crank palace
Marisa
2023-07-28 17:10:56 +0000 UTCI'm wondering what you guys would think about the Underland Chronicles, the series that Suzanne Collins wrote before the Hunger Games. It's been a while since I read them but I remember it being really fucking nasty and like, Actually About War. People burst open when they fall to their deaths, giant talking rats get decapited, a squadron of soldiers mounted on giant bats are allowed to be ambushed because the "good guys" don't want to reveal that they cracked the enemies encoded messages, and iirc theres a scene where a bunch of talking mice get forced up an active volcano and burned alive in some possible Holocaust imagery? I can't help but wonder if Hunger Games was written The Way It Was because Collins got feedback on the Underland Chronicles to the effect of: "Jeezus fucking Christ this is a YA series Suzannne, can you maybe tone it down next time?"
Archie
2023-07-28 17:05:08 +0000 UTCthis graphic design. immaculate also. thank you for articulating how lazy the "banality of death" defense of some of the deaths in these books is because rewatching the last movie and reading reddit posts in that vein was driving me to madness edit: was about to make a "not enough people talking about how alex garland stole annihilation bear (2018) from the hunger games" joke only to discover with some googling that the muttations are more likely inspired by hound of the baskervilles OR by gene wolfe's urth of the new sun. fake genre fan moments
sam
2023-07-28 16:40:54 +0000 UTCtbh my hottest take is perhaps that these books were always meant to be consumed in the medium of film LOL, Collins' barebones prose just screams screenplay to me. only book 3 was beyond salvaging imo
sam
2023-07-28 16:40:07 +0000 UTCIt’s been so long since I read the books but I think at least for this first book the movie is actually a much better version of this story
Marisa
2023-07-28 16:19:23 +0000 UTCMaze Runner was big when I was in high school and I remember even then, as someone who at the time fairly regularly grabbed YA books off the library shelves and read them, I thought it just sounded completely incomprehensible, and every back-of-the-book summary and description by an acquaintance made me even more confused as to what it's actually about
spectre-ship
2023-07-28 16:14:00 +0000 UTC"X is like the Hunger Games" has big "X is like 1984" energy
Dawnbreak
2023-07-28 16:08:52 +0000 UTCYou should edit the whole Mutant Werewolves Section into a "Fake YA Description"
ZiggyWSB .
2023-07-28 15:43:44 +0000 UTCOkay so first we're gonna invest our 4 million in a John Legend endorsement and bowling alley animations where 10 Chias are crushed by a bowling ball and then there's gonna be so much hype that people will invest 4 million more dollars--
Cutey! Candy!! Cataclysm!!!
2023-07-28 15:06:22 +0000 UTCNeopia 2.0: This Is (Not) A Rug Pull
Cutey! Candy!! Cataclysm!!!
2023-07-28 14:57:18 +0000 UTCDog moment
Vivid Ripley Moofahdrome
2023-07-28 14:16:55 +0000 UTCI'm so excited for your reaction to the Mutant Werewolves
ZiggyWSB .
2023-07-28 14:05:32 +0000 UTCI've forgotten the big twist so this description excites me
Kzinssie
2023-07-28 14:01:47 +0000 UTC
