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WHEN VICTIMS LIE - PODCAST #23

For a magnitude of reasons, there have been a significant amount of documented cases of alleged victims lying, further complicating the challenges that real victims face.

WHEN VICTIMS LIE - PODCAST #23

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That’s a good idea. I think that when people just hook up for sex like you said, yeah it’s on them

Led

soooo happy to hear that you gonna film dumpster diving videos again because I miss them so much, as well as your bike rides videos

Le Grand Cernibal

also wanted to add that parents of kids tend to lie a lot more about someone abusing their child than a child randomly coming up with abuse allegations on their own. my stepdad made a false police report about my bio dad molesting me when I was a baby and traumatized the whole family. I would be interested for AW to talk about these scenarios as well. it really messed me up as well as my bio dad, who ended up leaving my life and never coming back.

Cherry Daniels

I think we should always listen to people. Take both sides of the story but never chose one over the other without full evidence. Sometimes the victim really isn’t lying and the predator is a good manipulator, in other cases the child lied and the adult had no idea. I wish people didn’t lie because it gives less credibility to true victims. I’ve been lucky enough to not be raped but I’ve dealt with pedos before and it’s so mentally draining. I believe they all deserve the death penalty but you should always have evidence before doing that

Alicia

On the matter of not knowing if a person is underage if they lie and say they are 18 is, do the classic lets go out for a beer for a first date, or by the time you are ready for sex you should know who they are and what their age really is or even ask for an I.D. lol. But people who have sex right off the bat without even knowing a person kind of bring it on themselves I feel.

Christopher

sir I will model for you

10Lauren !

This is also very true and important to take into account. Agree whole-heartedly.

Tara Patten

Thank you for the sticker. I’ll be looking forward to your content and proud to support.

Alana T

Although it is a sensitive topic, it's important to understand that there are people out there who lie about being victims. I think you covered it well and did it in a respectful manner.

JustJakki

hi i got the anxiety war raw sticker in my mail last week and i tacked the envelope on my wall and put the sticker on my mirror. been a fan of you for a really long time so when i’d seen you wrote my name yourself i was like omg he acknowledged me and i had to keep the envelope LOL ❤️❤️

Avrie

Hi Zach! Just got my letter with a sticker! I love it! It's really cool :D Thank you and keep up the great job! Sending hugs from Poland x

Karolina

Got my sticker today, love it, you looking like a real P.I. with that jacket brother

Sumyung Gai

I totally agree with you except for the sex offenders being easy targets for false accusation, even if they are accused I couldn't care less, it sounds more like karma for me especially if they didn't get the sentence they deserve. If the system was just victims wouldn't lie to get their abusers another sentence. Just my opinion

Zineb AM

Touching back on the 'accusative' part of this video: I just wanted to say, I understand some people lie for attention. But, in relation, I have been through some crazy things that do not sound realistic at all. Some I have receipts for, and some I simply do not. Victims occasionally have a hard time disclosing memories like this. Due to the fact these memories have been suppressed or buried for so long that, when they do resurface its been such a long time that those who were their abuser aren't made accountable. The statute of limitations can play a big factor, ptsd, depression can cause brain damage and memory loss. Its proven that a victims memory to be a little fuzzy or unbelievable. Not saying that I don't agree with you, but you could take these factors into account, victims of sexual abuse/grooming/assault never have it easy with opening up in the first place, repression is almost a guarantee in anything causing trauma. Wether it be from denial, acceptance, shame there is usually a reason why. Keep killin' it out here Zach, We love you <3 ;)

Haley Ann

Lookin sharp Zach, Super excited for the new video.

Haley Ann

I agree with your opinions, this topic has always been difficult no matter what. Predators/p*dos definitely deserve the worst possible punishment (esp ☠️). As someone who has been through a multitude of these atrocities, it is firstly difficult to to come forward, and second, you might not have adequate evidence to get justice.. whatever that may be. The scourge of the earth get away with a slap on the wrist basically, and it unfortunately just depends on the law in your state/district. If someone’s being abused in that moment, it’s not always like you have an eye witness or be like, “hey let me record me being r*ped or abused”. It just doesn’t really happen that way. But I understand due process and having as much evidence as you can. Even though it might not be legally dealt with properly (seriously shitty and unfortunate), it’s important to have as much evidence as possible IF possible (ie: chat logs if online, phone records, etc). Sorry for the novel, but I’m even keeping it short. It’s tough and it sucks. But I WILL say, 🖕 people who lie about serious crimes like that.. you make it even harder for true victims/survivors to come forward and be taken seriously.. therefore letting these sickos get away with shit or incriminating an innocent person. False accusations like this are SO damaging all around.

Tara Patten

Hey Nikki! What the detectives can also do is guide you on talking with your abuser again for the sake of the investigation (unbeknownst to him, obviously) so that maybe he will acknowledge the sexual relationship that took place and whatever he says can be recorded and used as evidence. You see this in a lot of cases where the abuse happened a long time ago -- it is very effective if and when detectives go this far, which they should!

Zach Sweers

Evidence is a necessity. However, there is bias and corruption at the highest level where certain individuals can get away with crime when evidence is clear (ex. Jeffrey Epstein, Hunter Biden, etc.) and in some cases, the media will portray them as the victim rather then the perpetrator.

Matthew

I put my sticker on my fridge! It’s next to a sticker that says fartnite<3

Kittspam

The fact that there are people trying to use victim stories as a way to slide into your DMs (not people who are actually sharing their stories, I mean people who are trying to start something) ..... I just gotta say that's quite embarrassing for them.

Dani F

Gonna put my sticker on my car! Ty the little dog drawing made my night better.

Neru Poof

Just got my sticker in the mail (-: first who I support out of YouTube and I’m happy that’s it’s Anxiety War. Much love to you man <3

Alex

I am going through this issue right now. My evidence is 6 -8 years old. Even if you have pictures together, it is hard to prove they had sex with you. I am hoping the detectives are able to recover old texts and phone calls that were sexually explicit because I think this is the only way the prosecutor will accept my case. If a victim knows what the predator has done but has no evidence, I wonder what we can do. Anyways, Zach brought legitimate points , good video (:

Nikki

Zach, can we get an office and bunker tour?

Richard

Literally you were like ‘I need to find a few things for my apartment’ and I was like pls say girlfriend 🤞 and then you did! Coincidentally, I am a professional cleaner so liiiiiike, where can I submit my application lol

Anna Lundh

I used to work for a GAL a couple years ago and I saw this first hand. This little boys mom was having a hard time with shared custody so she made the little boy lie about his father touching him inappropriately. He immediately lost custody. He lost his job (he was a teacher) and when the little boy got Counseling… they realized he was couched into saying awful things by the mom. I knew the mom and I NEVER thought she would lie about something this serious. She was the sweetest but it comes to show that sometimes unfortunately, people lie about these things and it’s unfortunate for real victims.

Estela Montoya

victims lying and having the accused actually face legal problems is so rare that it isn't as big of an issue as it is made out to be

Cherry Daniels

We will talk about this! I've had predators lie and say this to me too through the legal system after they were charged, which is complete BS and didn't work. That's why it's important to highlight "the chat log doesn't lie!"

Zach Sweers

I just wanted to say BIG THANK YOU I got my chat log doesn’t lie shirt about a week ago VERY VERY high quality totally worth the money and I also got my autograph sticker a big thank you to Zach I ordered one of those stickers and I got 2 thank youuuu keep up the great work you are doing such a great service for the people of Michigan and the people of the internet KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!!

Kingbraeden25

Simply based on the lack of evidence. I’ve been diagnosed with ptsd, but I don’t think that’s enough

Gabe

This makes me nervous to speak up/proceed legally considering my abuse happened years ago.

Gabe

the predator can also lie that the victim said they were 18

madaym

Why not get fans to send you pictures of themselves in your merch? Sounds easier than a girlfriend : D haha

Alexandra Larsen

I received my sticker, Thank you.

Karrie cline

Agreed. There are always going to be bad eggs, but while damaging there are far fewer of them than honest victims. Instinct should be to believe and then do due diligence to confirm, than doubt and cause enormous trauma to a potential victim.

Ladies of Destiny

all jokes aside great podcast tonight zach thank you

jaden

every 10 seconds: "we'll talk more about that in the next podcast :)"

jaden

Ok I must have a lot to say today. Lol. The point where people want revenge those people make it harder for a real victim to be believed.

Liz Miller

Zach don't feel bad about not being able to handle everyone's story. It is a big weight to carry. I also do the same thing trying to help everyone. It is hard. I see a counselor once a week. Which is something that is needed when take some much on.

Liz Miller

As someone who knows a lot on this topic.. My belief is when a victim speaks up she she totally be taken seriously. Now I will agree that not everyone who says they are a victim are. One way is looking at there story and the way they tell it. Most victims that have been abused their story never changes. That is why they ask you to tell the details over and over. The details that we live through are embedded in our mind. Moat the time they don't change.

Liz Miller

I will, thank you!!

Zach Sweers

Was wondering why we got a new background! Zach moving up and getting a new place! Good for you💗

Rachael Pace

Stopped what I was working on just to watch! Got my sticker and sign postcard from you other day Zach, keep up the good work

Alzorion


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