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DELUSIONAL MOM OF CONVICTED PREDATOR BLAMES ME - PODCAST #26

After appearing on Dr. Phil to proclaim her son's innocence, this online predator's mom is interviewed by my attorney where she talks some smack.

You can find the whole exchange on my attorney's YouTube channel here.

DELUSIONAL MOM OF CONVICTED PREDATOR BLAMES ME - PODCAST #26

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I love how this lady is just sitting here acting like she knows what she is talking about. It is frankly embarrassing. My brain cells are dying as we speak.

Abigail Williams

That lady is a dummy. If my kid went to go fuck a minor I'd beat his ass into oblivion.

Robert Stillman

I grew up in trailers it is common for them to have ac vents on the floor in modular homes we loves putting sheets over them and getting under and it would blow the sheets up lol yea if you were a trailer park kid you know 😁

This lady is all over the place... "my son is super smart, but he's also really young and naïve, a picture says 1000 words and he could tell that he was actually looking at a 24 year old just by looking at this really dark photo. But I just said he misses details easily, but my son could tell she was actually an adult woman because he can see the wrinkles on her forehead that are COVERED BY A HAT. Despite literally just being told the girl is actually 13. And she must have typoed her age yet again when they confirmed they were 13 years old a second time before meeting. And my son assumed this might all be a fantasy of the girl's, but he never bothered to get clarification even though he showed he was fully capable to request clarification with the initial age comment. " This woman really is delusional. Honey your son committed a crime the moment he proceeded to be sexual despite his "doubts" about the girl's age, and then agreed to meet them. "I'll run away if it's a child." What are you gonna do, ask for ID? If you didn't know her age from the photo, why would that change anything in real life? A teen could be 17 and potentially be mistaken for an adult 18 year old. You can't rely just on seeing them in person. I hope police don't ever stop these stings. I DO hope and agree with that they get funding and money so the people working on these stings get rightfully compensated and paid for their efforts. Even a bagger (Courtesy Clerk), gets money in exchange for putting groceries in bags, etc. Human effort is expensive, it's just the way it is. And in my opinion, there should be a ton MORE of these police looking into pedophiles because it's disturbing how many get away with it. Thank you for another great podcast and sharing your thoughts on this subject Zach.

Waifu

Just like her son is trying to mislead the situation, this woman is trying to mislead by making it seem like it was a civilian sting. She probably knows that civilians get a lot of slack , and is trying to garner sympathy. But more than that, I think this is all about her, and how bad this will look on her. She is the one who raised a predator. This bug eyed "mom" is seriously standing up for a child rapist/groomer? And upset at them having to publicly be shamed by having their name on an offender list for life? Maybe instead of making excuses for her basement dwelling 20yr old son, she should stand up for the children that are abused, and hold him accountable. With a mom like this he might continue to think this behavior is ok, and graduate to a rapist/killer.

Sunshine

Definitely fishy. I’m pretty sure the guy has more secrets.

Nash Montana

Delusional is an understatement lmao you are the best I am so glad I joined and side note the be cawtious thing/mr Crowley is so funny omg.

Aubrey

How is he getting charged again for the same crime? He obviously did it again and this is a separate case

Cherry Daniels

This lady got this all wrong. I think there's more to this story, she isn't being 100% transparent.

Kris Mish

Wait so she believes the picture that this person sends her son, but doesn’t believe the message that this person sent her son stating that they’re underage. Yeah that makes absolutely zero sense. Someone online says they’re that age, they’re that age. Done, case closed. Plus old people don’t role play being 13 year olds.

Adam Haugstad

This wench got them crazy eyes. She's so far gone...

I've got an Uncle Bob too! I do feel a bit sorry for Kathleen because it must be so hard to admit to yourself that your son is a perv. But yeah, her argument is BS 💩

Michelle Kemp

You know how many times I have bypassed a restriction like that because I lied 😂😂😂 like does she really think that kids are gonna be like “WHELP, gotta wait another 5 years.”

Why do they fight these cases so hard instead of just taking the plea??? $100,000 fighting this is asinine to me.

She's looks good though.

oh my god they live in my state ew

This lady has more problems than her pedo son.

Geno Perrotti

Yes. The amount of people here defending this woman is really disheartening 🤦🏻‍♀️

I love Pokemon too! Even got some graded cards to resell. At our house. Thats a super cool and not nerdy thing. Id really love to get my theme song cassette tape back. Used to relax after school (4/5th grade) and listen to it on repeat LOL

Raquel

take a shot every time zach says “kathleen”

20, 00

kathleen is high on copium. there is absolutely no way he didnt realize that underage people click the "IM 18" button, hes been doing it himself since he was like 10. we all did it. unless you were 18 before the internet came out, you did it too. but she sticks to this defense like shit to a blanket when its irrelevant.

Mint

to raise a son like that....shes cracked...im sorry but evil isnt created in a vacuum...

Sewer World

I don't like the way you make fun of her and laugh on whatever she says, I see her as a loving mother who cares about her son, she might be wrong but this is not a way to talk about a problem, I couldn't watch this video because of your ridiculous laughs

Marcy Darcy is buggin tf out!!!!!!!

Also, she argues that her son is SOOO young and can’t tell the difference between right and wrong . Does she understand how much younger 13 is than 20?? She might be a little biased here . She gives her son every benefit of every doubt , but not a 13 year old girl ???

This guy cried to his mommy so hard , she’s gonna be telling this story in full detail until he’s 50.

I bet the only reason she's defending him is to save her own embarrassment lol

the little 'common bit-' made this video xD

Really? Do you have a link?

Ashley Montgomery

I never understood the "but they are my familyyyyyyy" and yet you know if something happened to them, they'd be OUTRAGED that the other offender's family would be protecting and giving excuses to that offender. (I hope I explained that well enough) Just how unself-aware and hypocritical so many families are.

Dolly

I’m sorry but she’s in the wrong he knew the person he was talking to was 13, even if it was fake, she is trying to defend predator behavior which makes her a piece of 💩. Idc if “they’re a decoy and were lured by police” if someone tells you they’re underage you leave them tf alone. An adult should never be talking sexually to a child even if the child started talking to them because adults have more influence then children do, they know better. No one said him having adhd makes him retarded, it’s the fact he uses it as an excuse that makes him retarded. My sister has adhd and she doesn’t try to fuck underage boys/girls on the internet

Alicia

I understand he’s your son but he’s a monster, he deserves to be put down like the animal he is

Alicia

Agreed. There's no way to know anyone's age for sure unless it's a site that makes you verify with ID...and even then it's not 100%. When someone tells you they are 13 and don't clearly state that they are RPing some weird fantasy, then it's time to sign off and not talk to that person again.

JustJakki

I feel like she's pulling a Michael Jackson card. I kinda wanna know what Zack thinks of MJ lmao

Yassie

I've been having diarrhea lately

Daddy Cheeseburger

She needs to be shown all the weiner pics that have been sent to lil kids. maybe her tune may change then.

This was the best Podcast I’ve participated in. This woman is absolutely batpoop and I’m a little surprised your lawyer didn’t laugh in her face. Also surprised people are saying she had a good point at ANY point.. If someone tells you they’re underage, THEY ARE UNDERAGE. If you’re into age play, there should be a mature level of conversation and consent before participating in kinks, not after. He’s a sick fecker and the justifications made are why these people don’t get locked up or chemically castrated.

Shelby Carlton

I have an adult son and I can honestly say that if I were in her situation I would not be this delusional

JenLuvsHalloween

mike morse has been accused of being a creep himself in the past.

St4t1c

as someone with adhd and autism and who struggles with social cues, i have never once went after a child and those things should never be an excuse. i hate that she's using those things to try and excuse his behavior.

sunny

Hahaha

Zach Sweers

As a Floor Installer myself, the fact you pointed out there was an air vent in the middle of the floor was driving me insane. I'm now playing a game while I listen, and only doing audio lol.

DMazz

Having ADHD while having problems with social cues does not make it fine go after children by accident lmao. Also how can someone not know at 20 that an 18+ section on Craigslist isn’t guaranteed to only have real adults? Craigslist is known to be shady anyway

Evelyn K

I'm sory, but ADHD doesn't mean retarded. He CAN understand that 13 is underage. It's no shame in looking for a hookup online, as long as it's not a kid. If the mom is telling the truth, she does make sense. She DOES look like an adult, not 13. If you don't want to use a minor as a decoy, at least use one that LOOKS like a minor. The police used the wrong pic. I'd like to see the chat. But from what she said, looks like really bad cop work. I understand that you are upset because she picks on you too, but that's not a good reason to laugh at her and not being objective. I am sure there are some ppl unjustly accused. Not many, but there surely are some. She does have a pretty ok explanation (IF it's true, but to prove that we need to see the chat logg). Ofcourse she is desperate after seeing her son in jail and spending soo much money to clear his name. Most of the things she said make sense. Some are ideas she probably got from getting in touch with other people that are trying to get away from the same type of charges. Those ideas are exaggerated and don't make much sense. Maybe from there she got to "extend" her upsetness to other ppl too, not only the police. She should have stucked with her son's situation and not extend to others. She shouldn't say 9 out of 10 ppl that are accused are inocent. That makes her loose credibility and look "crazy". At the beginning she has a good point, but than she looses credibility because of the exaggerations. I didn't like your attitude towards her. Was childish and subjective. I'm disappointed.

Irina

I’d pay $10 a month for Pokémon 😂

If I was talking to someone on the internet and they brought up that they wanted to kill me 2 times while talking, I wouldn’t brush that off as a fantasy of them. Why in the world would you brush off this stranger stating themselves as underage as just some fantasy they have? Not to mention if you are going along with it doesn’t it become your fantasy as well?? Just a lie he told his mom and she believed her “perfect son” and now will sit on this throne of lies to protect him.

Why is his MOM dealing with this? This guy was a 20 year old adult. Let him deal with the consequences. If someone says they are 13 , it means they are 13! PERIOD.

Diana

She really pulled out the “i was molested too” card. I’m only criticizing that because it’s obvious she’s trying her best to get any kind of support for her cause so she’s trying to make people feel pity for her. So delusional.

Joshua

He probably did it again, that's why he is in trouble again. I can't stand these kind of parents. It's everyone's fault just not his.

Tihana

I did the same I had to shut it off because she was annoying me

Ashley

I can't even listen to this woman make excuses because her son doesn't recognize social cues. I did listen to a lot of it though. Excuses, excuses. Watching your lawyer make faces at what she says is really funny.

Ashley

I love these videos. They help shine a light on important issues. She was sloppy at the beginning with the defense of her sons case and the obvious lack of research about the laws. But towards the end she had a very good point, the media does sensationalize some cases and Not every case is productive, in terms of protecting children. I also think it’s valid that she said if people really care about protecting children, they would focus more of sexual assault cases, rather than cases like these. It’s true that neutrality and objectivity are integral in conducting an investigation and the ideal of due process. The same should be true with the actual court cases. But cultural biases do have an impact, and in Kathleens opinion, jeopardizes the integrity of the due process and puts more people in danger. The whole sentiment for the #MeToo movement is that sexual assault cases go unanswered for so long and action is not being taken against active criminals. You are able to poke wholes in her story but you can’t deny that some of her points are valid, without being bias. The fact that you and Kathleen are on such opposite pages means we have a lot of work to do to find the root of these flimsy investigations. My source: https://www.policechiefmagazine.org/the-effect-of-cultural-bias-on-the-investigation/

Miles Roat

Yup, no wonder her son is a pedo turd perv

Jody Kurt

Haha love the pokemon card collection! Which pokemon is your favourite?

I just love that picture of her. I'd like it framed and hung in my bathroom.

LMNOPISS

I had to quit watching it , honestly. That woman is crazy. The comments in the replies on YouTube were equally disturbing. How in the heck can you justify that kind of behavior?

Lynn Bickle

Not trying to plug but do you watch AbsolBlogsPokemon by any chance? He's one of my best friends and is a pretty successful pokemon YouTuber so I couldn't help but wonder.

Plot twist: Anxiety War's next catch: Kathleen's son 🤣 That would be epic!

K

I just love you!

Marsha Teeling

Since when did you have 8K patrons?? Happy for you Zach!!!

It is SO FUN seeing your Patrons subscription number go up every day!!! Very happy for you bro!

BarkBark

OMG YOUR CARDS ARE SICK AF 😍 I used to have one Charizard one but lost it somewhat recently 😔 RIP

ck mora

Ughhh you still using Mike Morse? That's the only thing you have ever done that is questionable to me.

Cherry Daniels

I think she’s confused with helping her son and speed-running his prison sentence.

I CARE ABOUT THE POKE'MON CARDS DAMNIT. I only have one single card anymore, a foil Alakazam from the first base set release. I keep him in my car as a good luck charm.

Auzie

she's so annoying what the heck

Additionally, the "you have to be 18 or older to enter" thing only shows up one time than its cached so an adult could agree to it then a kid could use it no problem so "kathleen's" argument that its for adults so only adults should be in there won't ever hold up..

Brian McElligott

When Chris Hansen and Mike Morse were blowing up when the Onision thing was big... I heard that Mike Morse had his own sexual assault accusations. Is that true? If so, does that affect your use of him as your attorney?

i_hate_predators

Dolly Parton would have a field day with this woman. 🎶 Kathleen, Kathleen, Kathleen KATHLEEEEEN! I'm begging of you, don't let Jayce touch kiiiiiids 🎵 😂

Slow Loris

Why does she look and act almost exactly like Olivia Baker from 13 Reasons Why? (Some normie trash show lol)

Slow Loris

The "casting couch" comment made me laugh out loud

i_hate_predators

I respect the Pokemon cards, I still play the games every now and then!

Cody Rausch

Main point of the mother: Don't face and deal with reality, instead try to delude yourself and try bending facts so it justifies your wrongdoings and eases your ANXIETY... Yuck. One more addition that made me angry, according to Kathleen a crime MUST be committed and proven to be true before any legal steps are made. (in this case a child should have sex with an adult, until then it's no crime) OMG. Mother of the year.

Attila Balogh

Kathleen’s son could’ve gone onto Craig’s list to try and pick up Pokémon cards but instead he tried to pick up an underage girl. Not cool.

shaunnad

She made a complete fool of herself

lol

Zach Sweers

that ninetales card is perfection (along with the others)

Nikki LeMaire

This is why there are predators, parents don’t teach accountability to their children and when shit hits the fan they go on a a delusional tirade proclaiming that THEY are the victim. This is cringe worthy. Ugh

Andy Hancher

You should of been a second guest host on the show, would of loved to see you guys go back and forth lol! Her arguments made absolutely no sense.

This is rediculous even at 18 years old me and my friends would give people shit for trying to date 17 year olds. Even if I think someone is joking about being underage I just ignore them. There are plenty more fish in the sea to go around trying to mess with underage people is craziness

Dewwche

oh god

It amazes me how parents can be so delusional. Keep up the good work

The audacity! Unbelievable Love watching your videos while sipping tea and eating cookies ❤️

Mayvi

So that's where that guy gets his amazing personality from.

hertzler92

where the rainbow charizard at foo

halee

Gotta catch 'em all. :D

Zach Sweers

Doing better?? I feel lonely without Mr. Crowley.

Zach Sweers

I miss Skelly and the basement, but I’m sure the light makes you feel better. Glad to see you’re doing better Zach

Randy

Show your Pokémon cards more often, I’ve been collecting Pokémon and yugioh for as long as I could remember

John

Woo hoo! Happy Monday and thank you!

Jody Kurt

🍿🤭

Rainier A

She should know better than to victim blame in current year. LMAO!

DispleasedDog


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