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WHAT SHOULD THE PUNISHMENT BE FOR FALSE ALLEGATION OF SEXUAL ABUSE? - PODCAST #41

It's a touchy subject, or is it actually not?

WHAT SHOULD THE PUNISHMENT BE FOR FALSE ALLEGATION OF SEXUAL ABUSE? - PODCAST #41

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OMG, that happened to my BFF. It was hell. The "dad" (Sperm donor) coached the girls to say my BFF's boyfriend touched them. It took at least 2 years to get it all settled. He never touched the girls.

Christine White

In the wake of the Johnny Depp case I think there should be, absolutely. Its not just a case of ruining a career, it ruins the lives of the kids attached to the parent and does so much psychological harm. My brother was married for 25 years in a similar DV relationship with his wife (same personality disorders as Amber) and after divorce the wife still turned the kids against him at various times with incorrect allegations - thankfully not as bad as Amber said but still, she could have. Problem is, there aren't enough resources for actual victims and male victims like Johnny still aren't being recognised... so we need education that DV isnt gender based, and recognise how female perpetrators of violence (including child predators) are treated differently in society and seen as less of a threat. Then maybe if the disparity in sexual predators is fixed in the legal system, false accusations against men in particular is harder to weaponise?

Caroline Haf

When my daughter was 4 my ex husband and his girlfriend coached my daughter to accuse my then boyfriend of S/A. It took months of therapy appointments and cps meeting to clear it up. The school thought I was a monster for saying I didn't think anything happened which I understand to a degree but like I told them I've never and would never leave her alone with anyone so it was impossible that anything happened. Understandably that relationship was over then but he could have had his life ruined because my ex-husband didn't like him.

KRISTY

i just bought zach patreon :))

shreya tiwari

Fortunately laws aren't based around the ten commandments.

Sierra Leone

Let the punishment fit the crime, or in this case, the allegation. If the accused would've been imprisoned, the false accuser should be, no matter the age. It's one of "The 10 Commandments", for Pete's sake. "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

Lorraine Pozniak

really liked this podcast. also got my envelope, thanks zach!!

liv

It's really upsetting. There's some psychological reason why these girls think that false accusations are okay. Even if they don't get juvie, they need to get some sort of inpatient/outpatient psychiatric evaluations and also supportive programs and therapy. Sticking them in juvie might just give them more "manipulation skill" rather than true rehabilitation from their destructive lying. But they need something like house arrest and they only go out/have contact with specific people and therapeutic services. Edit: aaand i can say that the girl in the dr. phil clip was suffering what sounded like maybe narcissistic abuse from her mom, and her dad was an enabler? I could just be projecting but my family is basically just like that, except i would never accuse my dad of touching me! He never did, no matter what he did do, he never touched me so why would you even lie about that? Maybe she just focused on the impact that would have on her mother, not her dad or possible whole family. After all, if you have narcissistic parents it can only go two ways. Youre either narcissistic like them, or you get help and become everything they weren't.

Ironicbanana

Yep! It is unusual but it does happen occasionally. I talk about this more toward the end of the recent "Therapist Predator Confrontation Commentary + Bonus Footage" video.

Zach Sweers

After you confront a predator have they ever contacted the “girl” afterwards?

Ashley Burgos

Yes PLEASE. First question: WHOSE PENIS IS THIS???

Slow Loris

Thats actually a really sick Gameboy t-shirt

Slow Loris

Accusing someone of sexual assault that is a lie is about the worst thing you can do to someone. Thank God the kid heard the conversation. Those two girls are in a world of hurt behaving like that. I hope justice will be served.

Theresa Ohman

Zach will you do a q&a?

Melissa lynn

Let’s start being consistent to what “lying to a police officer” means. If you make a false accusation it should be charge of conspiracy and obstruction. Among many other things but yeah….great podcast Zach thank you!

Andy Hancher

I remember years back there was a girl named Nikki Yovino that claimed she was taped by 2 guys at Sacred Heart university, I think she got a year in prison and 3 years probation and the two guys that were accused of rape lost the Athletic scholarships that they had to the college. False rape claims are very scary

Wyatt

My dad and brother have actually had this same debate about sentencing false accusers. We came to the conclusion that the person doing the false accusing should receive whatever sentence the person they accused would have gotten

Michelle

Yes! You can search by month as well. Unfortunately Patreon's GUI is limited now and I'd love to customize how the content is presented/organized, but I've been in contact with them and they have some good plans for the future. Also, if an adult is talking with who he thinks to be an adult, everything is fine. The line is drawn when the person thinks a minor is on the other end...

Zach Sweers

Hi Zach. I'm a really new member on patreon, although I have been following your YouTube channel for years now. I'm a little irritated because the patreon kinda lacks a good overview about the contents. I find myself scrolling down forever and I was wondering if there is no better way of organising it :) I also have a question about predators and predatory behaviour on the internet. Because I can't help to notice that some of the techniques the predators use are also very common when adults are being flirty (like making the conversation sexual for example). Where do you think the line should be drawn on this? (I hope this is an okay place to reach you haha 😅)

Jonas Köllinger

You really couldn't have vocalized my opinion more perfectly. I was was groomed and taken advantage of by an adult at such a young age I also agree that the healing is so grueling and takes a toll. I wish I was lying whenever I told people the trauma I deal with at the hands of my abuser but its sadly something I'll always deal with. It brings more stigma to actual victims/survivors of such crimes.

Shannon Maldonado

I think those who falsely accuse someone of sexual assault should most certainly be prosecuted and receive serious consequences. Jail time, maybe? As someone who has been sexually abused as a child, I know what the effects of sexual violence are. It permanently affects you and shapes who you become. Healing takes a long time. Learning to trust takes a long time. Feeling connected to yourself takes a long time. Healing your nervous system takes a long time. It takes a HUGE mental and physical toll. And those who lie about these things happening to them are sick. Not only can their lies ruin an innocent person’s life, but their lies minimize, mock, and downplay the experiences real survivors go through.

Abigail Milam

An adult that makes those kinds of false accusations should be prosecuted. This is a serious crime.

Truffles

i really think that people who falsely accuse others of rape or any type of harassment should face some time in jail. Their audacity to accuse reminds me of the people who hurt others since they all shamelessly act the way they do.

Shannon Maldonado

a very interesting topic, as always! I would love to see some guests on your podcast. thanks zach

Lexi

It takes a special kind of mentally sick person to do this sort of thing.

Melissa lynn

yay first time catching a video relatively recently posted

Shannon Maldonado

Gosh, I love random podcast drops 🥰

Meggolas

Ohh late night video 😙

Melissa lynn


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