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YESSSSS MORE FLASHBACKKSS | TVD "Children of the Damned" REACTION!! | 1x13

YESSSSS MORE FLASHBACKKSS | TVD "Children of the Damned" REACTION!! | 1x13

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And Mair bro, it was so obvious that Stefan is the reason that his dad figured out he knew a vampire. Why would his son approach him like that and try to make an argument that some vampires might be good? That's why his dad immediately asked him if he knew a vampire, and that created skepticism. If Stefan never tried to talk to his dad, just like Damon said his dad would NEVER understand, then his dad wouldn't have given Stefan vervain to see. Stefan made it so obvious.

Yules

Damon asked Stefan to promise not to tell their dad about Katherine, or about vampires being good in general, and Stefan broke that promise. Which ended up in Katherine being taken away from Damon. So that's why Damon says that Stefan made sure a long time ago that he couldn't trust him, and that's why it was so important for him to ask Elena if he could trust him now. So Stefan has broke promises to Damon twice now, with the consequence of taking away Katherine.

Yules

Omg don't you guys remember when Damon tried to compel Alaric at the school dance, and Alaric went along with it but then it showed he was holding Vervain in his hand? Like it was confirmed he isn't a vampire so many episodes ago LOL

Yules

Mair& Sophie love yall reaction i finally made it 💓, half theof the time y'all be on point with it.Then the other times be like.Oh my god , y'all gonna trip out lol

Mizzqueenie

I’m 50/50 because yes that could be a indication that Stefan knows a vampire personally, or secondly Stefan is just being contrarian to the townsfolk who commonly believe that vampires are inherently evil and all of them must be killed. Stefan then asks his father how can he be so sure and that Giuseppe taught them to never just believe something at face value. It’s understandable for Mair to believe Stefan didn’t give up the secret with his indirect actions and that Giuseppe was very smart for putting it together that Catherine was a vampire.

Floridaboytonio

Anna’s mother wasn’t able to compel Jonathan Gilbert because all of the townsfolk who know of vampires drink vervain therefore can’t be compelled

saintnicodemus

I come back in the appropriate episode to discuss this about Elena.

Mbelle1864

Conversation between Stefan and his father: Stefan: “I have concerns about your plan for the vampires. We are making the assumption that all vampires are as evil as they’ve been characterized. But if that is not true.” Father (Giuseppe): “Do you have any evidence to the contrary? Do you know of any vampire?” (Later, when Giuseppe enters Stefan’s bedroom and Katherine is on the floor): Giuseppe: “I fed you vervain hoping that it will expose her.” Stefan: “How did you know?” Giuseppe: “Your sympathy for their plight.” Mair, it was Stefan's fault for sure because the way Stefan talked to his father leaves no room for doubt that Stefan didn't know about vampires, because how would he know they are good vampires if he doesn't know of any? The way Stefan expresses his concerns about vampires to his father can only lead his father to conclude that Stefan knows a vampire. It is not that Giuseppe was smart; it is common sense, and Giuseppe confirms it when he told Stefan that he found out because of Stefan's sympathy. Remember that Pearl showed Katherine that the townspeople were using vervain, Giuseppe and his close circle were on high alert about vampires. Let's not forget that Stefan knew the council was after the vampires, and Damon warned him not to talk to their father. Mair, when you notice how Damon responded to Stefan about trust, you are on the right track. You said that there had to be more that Stefan did to Damon because you listened to Damon’s tone when he spoke to Stefan. When you pay attention to these things, TVD becomes more interesting.

Mbelle1864

I’m sayin. You would think they’d do that. I watch Badd Medicine Reacts and they have notebooks on deck for everything they watch so they remember things.

ParkMinJeon

The writers are showing us how manipulation works and how it is applied in the most masterful way, as it would be expected by someone that has lived way much longer than a normal human. Plus they are applying the first rule of writing, "show don't tell" which means they make the character not only deceiving other characters, but involving audience to be part of the deception, making you being deceived, and if you are a kid and you are not yet capable to recognise manipulation, you would believe the deceit, you will take it literally and be dumb-fooled by the manipulator. That is why many kids believe in Stefan character blindly and don't understand how manipulative this character is written. That at the same time doesn't make Stefan bad, it makes him shady and serve the now clear intent of the writers to dismantle the initial black and white narrative "bad brother good brother" to be replaced at least so far with a more complex grey area., where motivation, character psychological profile and it's background,, play a part in his actions and reactions, giving characters a more closer to real humans multi dimension. That is why this show is top of the scale genial and writers goal.

Patpet

👏👏👏

Patpet

Guys yall need like a notebook for this show take notes to remember things because in this show you will need too and be careful reading comments I don’t want any spoilers for you guys and not saying yall are doing that but be careful what you say (talking about the people commenting)

Ashaad Morgan

Bonnie and Elena's conversation happened in episode 4. I agree that it is important because if we changed one of the names in that conversation, it would make it clear that it is foreshadowing.

Mbelle1864

I get why you guys think Alaric is a vampire they made hints he could be with his ring and Jena not inviting him inside but he’s just wants to be a vampire hunter vigilante lol they will explain his ring

Callysta Cobb

Elena is a very compassionate person and she’s very good at reading people emotionally and psychologically and that allowed her to see beyond the surface and the mask that Damon was wearing, so when everyone else sees anger and rage, Elena sees hurt in Damon’s eyes, people sees evil, Elena sees a wounded soul so she might not agree with what Damon was doing and the methods he’s using but she could understand where he’s coming from that everything he’s doing is coming from the place of love and it’s for love so the moment Stefan saw that Elena was starting to understand Damon a little more, he immediately bad mouthed his brother and essentially told Elena “don’t have any compassion for my brother”. Listen carefully to this line: “every time I let my guard down and let Damon back in my life, he’s done something that made me regret it”, what’s happening between Damon and Elena right now? Elena is slowly letting her guard down and let Damon have a space in her life. By saying that, Stefan is telling Elena “don’t ever trust Damon, he’ll make you regret it” Did Damon ever say anything bad about Stefan to Elena since the beginning of the show? Have we heard Damon side of the story too? How can we trust Stefan and what he says about his brother when all we saw in this episode was betrayal from Stefan both in the past and in the president, the past one was coming from place of immaturity and naivety but the present one was absolutely calculated and planned out. Is it really that shocking to see that Damon has trust issues? Also Emily didn’t save the vampires because of Pearl, we saw in E9 that Emily only saved them because Damon went to her and asked her personally to save Katherine and in return Damon was gonna save her children which he did and he was silently protecting the entire Bennet line until now but what he got in return? Emily’s betrayal and she just decided to destroy the Crystal that could open the tomb, she used him for her advantage and when it served her and after she got what she wanted from him, she refused to hold up her end of the bargain and betrayed Damon and broke his trust, another reason for Damon having trust issues. Here in this episode Damon didn’t ask for Stefan’s help, it was Stefan who sought him out and went as far as letting him believe that he could trust him only to stab him in the back in the worst possible way. It’s Damon who’s letting his guard down and starting to trust again and it’s him who’s now regretting it. Can we believe what Stefan is saying to Elena about past? because this episode is showing the contrary. Stefan was not just manipulating Elena in this episode, he was even manipulating the audience but we need to be smarter and use our decrement correctly because we as audience have an advantage over the characters in the show, we have a whole picture and this should allow us to see things more clearly and that’s why I absolutely love that you guys ask questions about why Damon has this animosity towards Stefan so without spoiling everything I just want to tell you that just be patient, you will get answers to all of your questions eventually.

Mnewmoon

There was a scene between Bonnie and Elena in E5 that was perfectly planed by the writers to give us the first glance and warning about the shady nature of the character that Stefan is. It’s like they were talking to the viewers who so blindly sided with Stefan from the very beginning and believed him as the only “good” guy and Damon as definitely the “evil” one. “Stefan’s past relationship is not my business” “Unless he’s a calculating manipulative liar, that’s your business” “Stefan is none of those things” “Well how do you know?” The writers are like ”what if he’s a calculating manipulative liar?” And the audience would be like ”Stefan is none of those things” And then the writers would be like”how do you know? Do you know his past? Do you have any idea of who he is?” The fact that this scene was foreshadowing what’s gonna happen next between them. After Episode 11, Elena and Damon started to from a newly friendship bond between them and it’s so obvious that Stefan felt so threatened by this bond, it was evident in the last episode when Elena agreed to Damon’s plan and didn’t listen to Stefan’s concerns about the plan, if you pay attention to his facial expression, you can see that he immediately felt a thaw between them and he didn’t like that at all, especially after Elena said”I’ll be with the TWO of you, I’ll be safe” she made it clear that she felt safe next to Damon as well. That’s why Stefan started to come up with the plan so he could completely destroy this newly bond and ruin the trust they have in one another. In this episode we saw how Stefan badmouthed Damon in-front of Elena in any chance he got to twist a narrative in Elena’s mind to make Elena only look at Damon the way he wanted her to see and not the way she’s perceiving herself. Stefan’s plan was calculated because on one hand he was manipulating Elena in to lying and betraying Damon and on the other hand, he knew he could destroy Damon’s trust in her as well knowing that Damon has trust issues and if he could just make Elena betray him after Damon putting his trust in her (something he would rarely do) this will make Damon not wanna put his trust in anybody else like ever again. He was definitely a calculating manipulative liar in this episode. The writers of this show are geniuses.

Mnewmoon

Mair, just to clarify, vampire blood doesn't stay in your system forever. Only like 24-48 hours. Think of it like if you take drugs, they only stay in your system for a certain period of time. Then it passes through and it's like you never even had it. Elena would have to die within that window of time to turn into a vampire. If she died after the vampire blood was out of her system, she would just die like normal. It's not a one and done thing. It doesn't stay in your body forever.

thank u next

Mair is right. Elena is NOT a Gilbert. Remember, she found out she was adopted. Jeremy is a Gilbert. They never mentioned her actual family line after that discovery because that isn't known yet at this point. Remember, Jenna described the story she was told of how Elena was dropped off on their doorstep. We know that Elena's birth mother's name was Isabelle. And we know that Alaric's wife name was Isabelle. That's all we have. Beyond that, all we know that at this point is that since she's not a Gilbert, it leaves open the possibility that she's related to Katherine in some way (who is a Pierce). But yes, Gilbert is one of the founding families alongside Salvatore, Fell, Lockwood, etc. One of the men Stefan's dad was talking to in that scene was actually Jonathan Gilbert (the ancestor whose journal Jeremy was reading that he ended up giving to Alaric and the one that Ana was trying to get her hands on).

thank u next

FINALLYYYYYY

ilona

Again when Damon ever betray any of them? The meaning of betrayal is violating someone trust by acting deceitfully , revealing a confidence or a secret to the enemy, laying, and acting disloyally. None of that apply to Damon, he never lied, he never expose his brother or badmouth him to anybody especially to Elena, ep 3 kitchen scene, Elena: " which one of you dated her first?" Damon:" nicely deduce. Ask Stefan I am sure his answer is different from mine" he could have give her his version, he didn't., that is a gentleman like behaviour towards Elena and his brother. it is not Damon telling lies at every turn, is not Damon badmouthing his brother with Elena at any given occasion like Stefan does. We have information about Damon from Stefan's mouth and he is a liar: and manipulate things to his advantage: " Damon has no regard for human life (what an assumption coming from Stefan!!) every time he came back in my life he did something to make me regret it.."(????) That was his reaction to Elena expressing compassion for Damon saying that he things that everything he does is for love, it's twisted but sad, she expressed compassion an to destroy to drive a wedge between Damon and Elena friendship he his badmouthing Damon. The sole badmouthing your own brother thing, it's very bad in it'self, adding to the fact that he is a liar ,can he be trusted with telling the truth?

Patpet

I know you guys have that whiteboard lol.. but I think for your TV shows you should each have a little notebook on the side so that you can write down notes so that you won’t forget certain things in episodes when you don’t watch episodes back to back or when you have your breaks.

ParkMinJeon

Yes he did, because Damon told him not to and he did it anyway, what woul be the point of that conversation if not advocate for Katherine?. Also I quote you "carrying that anger for over 100 years is crazy" Damon hasn't carried anger for 100 year for that, and you know it's NOT true, why do you give the reactors wrong information? Damon just acknowledged that Stefan cannot be trusted, he gave his brother a second chance and he reinforce the fact that his mistrust of Stefan is legittimate, Stefan is a scheming lair that cannot be trusted, he told Damon "no more lies and deceits", and that is exactly what he did, again, and manipulated Elena into it.

Patpet

Exactly lmaoo it’s not hard for him to put 2 & 2 which is what he did AFTER Stefan talked to him so it is in fact Stefan’s fault

Ashley Cruz

Alaric isn't a vampire!

Caroline

Elena’s last name IS Gilbert since she was adopted into the family, she’s just not of their bloodline. Stefan’s theory is that Elena is related to Katherine who was a Pierce. We know Elena’s biological mother was a woman called Isobel, that’s all the information we know at this point.

Halima

LMFAOOO I was cracking up 🤣🤣🤣

Halima

I get both sides on the whole Giuseppe situations cause on one hand Stefan didn’t tell their father & couldn’t have known he’d figure it out from one convo, but on the other hand Damon DID warn him not to trust their dad and Stefan yapping got Katherine caught. It’s a sticky one but I do think Damon’s anger in the moment is valid, carrying that anger for over 100 years is crazy though since Stefan didn’t intentionally snake him.

Halima

Damon is soooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I feel bad for him cause all he wants is to be reunited with the woman he loves but you can’t terrorise them for months then act shocked and hurt when they betray you back

Halima

Yayyyyyy

Nana_44

Mair was on fire this episode 😭😭

Devante Singleton

Don't have to try and make excuses? meanwhile that's all people do for damon. Trusting katherine and vampires so they could destroy humans is bad.

Femke

stefan does not kill nor hurt for fun with his humanity on. That alone should tell you the type of person he is compared to majority of other vampires

Femke

Guys, Damon told Stefan NOT to talk to their dad, they are his sons, he knows them, he can read them, plus he is on alert, and what Stefan does? He goes to his father to advocate for vampires, the father isn't stupid, why would he say something like that if wasn't because he knows a vampire? Who does he know that is out of the trusted circle? Katherine, obvious. Plus when the father discover Katherine in Stefan's room, he told Stefan to go to the sheriff, so he did. So, in Damon's mind Katherine got taken because his brother didn't do what he promise to him, he wouldn't do, and he did exactly the opposite. Plus , in present time, he told him : "No more lies and deceptions....I help you to get Katherine out of the tomb" and again he lie to Damon and deceive him again and in the deception he got Elena involved, that is not a liar, but because of Stefan manipulation, forced her lie to Damon's face. A huge differenze between the brothers, Damon NEVER ever badmouthed his brother to Elena even when he had the chance to tell his side of the story, he didn't., he never lie about anything, Damon doesn't lie there is a specific reasons to that. Every time Stefan talk to Elena of his brother he badmouth him, why? because Elena and Damon bonded , she trust him, and Stefan doesn't like that, not one bit. So to drive a wedge between Damon and Elena friendship funding a way for Elena to betray Damon's trust. We know that Stefan is a master manipulator and a liar, so can we trust a liar to give us the truth? Since episode 6 when he promise to Elena not to hide from her anything anymore, how many piece of information he hided from her not to appear bad, while working on making Damon looking bad?

Patpet

W post❤️ Now they can chill out‼️🤣

𝑲𝑼𝑻𝑻𝑯𝑹𝑶𝑨𝑻 🎀

& its not the ONLY reason but it is ONE of the reasons

Ashley Cruz

Not Stefan fault ? It 100 percent absolutely is , it’s not hard for they dad to put 2 & 2 together , he DEFINITELY indirectly told his dad & he figured out it was Katherine cause WHO else would it be

Ashley Cruz

OH SOPHIE YOU ATEEEEEE ! “Now I see why Damon acts the way he acts clearly Stefan was the favorite” they put this angel narrative on Stefan a lot & they’ve BOTH done HORRIBLE things

Ashley Cruz

IT was made clear that Alaric is not a vampire, because he can be in the sun without his ring, the episode when he was looking in the car for his ring because he took it off to go to the gym and couldn't find it, that scene clarify that he is NOT a vampire. He saw his wife with Damon biting her neck, but then they disappear. Obviously he got compelled to forget, so again not a vampire. Plus when he was walking around the school corridors and Damon went to check if he was connected with the vampire that attacked Elena, Alaric had vervain in is hand to fight compulsion, so again not a vampire otherwise the vervain would have burn him. Please pay attention to the lore and most of all don't talk over any conversation, press pause , talk and then carry on, because in this show EVERY conversation is a piece of the puzzle, there is not non crucially important dialogue, A) to understand the lore, B) to understand the characters, where they come from, why they act the way they do, their specific characteristics, C) to understand how vampire behave, how they operate etc. This show is not like any other show, it is giving you little tiny piece of information that YOU have to put together like in a puzzle, the audience is not supposed to sit and watch passively having a chat here and there and nothing happens, here you are suppose to actively put the pieces together, therefore it requires your undivided attention, no talking over it, or you get lost because the amount of information linked to other episodes given is huge, it requires multiple time of re-watch to capture all the details that are put in this show, the connections, between season 6 and season 5 , or season 5 and 8 to season 1 etc. there are continuous connections to something you think is unimportant that is expanded in another season and become very important. That is why this show needs to be reacted differently, no talking over it, but pause, talk, continue.

Patpet

Damon was hilarious this episode lmao😭"if I see something I haven't seen before I'll throw a dollar at it"

ashley kuate

a nice treat for after work 🙂‍↕️

Isaiah

Lets goooo

Kamo Da Great

MY SHOW IS ONNNNN😛

lanixxm

We backkk!!!

Malik Samuels

WE UPPPP

Halima


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