Ep. 801 - Wicked
Added 2024-12-03 23:46:50 +0000 UTC
David, Devindra, and Jeff dive into the world of Moana 2, sleuth around with A Man on the Inside, and walk a mile in someone else’s shoes with Nickel Boys. Then they take to the skies with the blockbuster musical Wicked.
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Weekly Plugs
David - Decoding Everything: Why We’re Stuck in an Endless Hell of Live Action Remake
Devindra - Engadget Podcast on the changing social media landscape + TWiT 1008
Jeff - Jeff’s Cameo Page
Shownotes (All timestamps are approximate only)
What we've been watching (~00:05:46)
Jeff - Moana 2, A Man on the Inside, Nightbitch, Didi
David - A Man on the Inside, Nickel Boys, The Franchise
Devindra - A Man on the Inside, Nickel Boys, Nosferatu, Conclave
Featured Review (~00:57:21)
Wicked
SPOILERS (~01:18:19)
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1:03:28 Devindra with the “What?” regarding Turkey Trott🤣
Greyson Flax
2025-03-22 16:14:44 +0000 UTC
This is a legit take, IMO…🙂
CDMatthew
2024-12-29 20:37:12 +0000 UTC
The Clint Eastwood riff at the end of this episode had me gasping for air I laughed so hard!
Sean Fitzpatrick
2024-12-09 18:34:07 +0000 UTC
“REMEMBER when a candy bar cost $.25”? You guys really are getting old ;)
Mark Griffith
2024-12-09 15:26:18 +0000 UTC
The Wizard Of Oz is superior to Wicked.
Cameron Stewart
2024-12-09 10:27:18 +0000 UTC
I didn’t think it was boring - in fact for a near 3 hour movie I was shocked at how briskly it moved, I didn’t feel the length at all - but I really think it was very mediocre. I don’t think even one of the songs is as good or as memorable as any from the 1939 Wizard Of Oz, I thought most of the direction was pretty aimless, the musical choreography pretty incoherent, the cinematography pretty bad. I’m surprised by the trio of rave reviews here. But I will agree that Grande and Erivo are both really great.
Cameron Stewart
2024-12-09 10:25:58 +0000 UTC
I don’t know what Kool-aid everyone else is drinking, I would love some in order to enjoy this more. I found it terribly boring.
toeknee
2024-12-09 00:45:23 +0000 UTC
Yeah but it is explicitly anti Nazi so gains all the points back 💪🏻
Reynaldo K. Cruz
2024-12-06 00:26:42 +0000 UTC
You seem to be forgetting that the Sound of Music was not directed by the director of Crazy Rich Asians like Wicked was, so it's gonna lose points for that 😂
Stranger2Reality
2024-12-06 00:25:35 +0000 UTC
Do you think they would first make an animated version of Hamilton (with anthropomorphized foxes or something as the characters), and then two years later do a live action adaptation of that animated feature? 😂
Stranger2Reality
2024-12-06 00:23:00 +0000 UTC
It's back now! 😁
Armando Ferrari
2024-12-05 13:50:35 +0000 UTC
I LOVED Wicked, but I feel like I’m the only person who thinks they botched Defying Gravity. Chu decided to pause the songs momentum over and over again to insert dialog and plot, thus causing the impact of the songs crescendo to completely fall flat in comparison to the stage version. The original song builds and builds into this incredible climactic moment, and Chu’s decision to draw it out and slow it down to show more of what’s going on made it way less impactful in the film version.
Steven Kennick
2024-12-05 13:41:32 +0000 UTC
I thought Ariana was great and had big Miss Piggy energy, whipping her hair around and being dramatic.
Also, isn’t “everyone” waiting to watch Juror #2 on MAX the one to watch for HBO on the 20th? I would wait a week for that review if you could.
Seth Offenberger
2024-12-05 12:53:15 +0000 UTC
I would take one Julie Andrew’s over one hundred Ariana grandes. Absurd.
Reynaldo K. Cruz
2024-12-05 02:02:00 +0000 UTC
Dave sound of music clears wicked are you out of your mind?
Reynaldo K. Cruz
2024-12-05 01:59:54 +0000 UTC
I like convenience of Podcasts and music all in one place. I've had the Patreom feed on Spotify for a long time, but it disappeared this week.
Armando Ferrari
2024-12-05 00:57:00 +0000 UTC
I recommend the Overcost app for podcasts, though I do use Spotify for music…
CDMatthew
2024-12-05 00:17:09 +0000 UTC
How long do you think before Disney makes a film adaptation of Hamilton?
Mathew
2024-12-04 23:22:48 +0000 UTC
Anyone else use Spotify for podcasts and getting the "not available in your area" error when trying to import the Patreom feed?
Armando Ferrari
2024-12-04 23:11:26 +0000 UTC
Or was it Every WITCH Way But Loose??
CDMatthew
2024-12-04 20:58:05 +0000 UTC
The last 4 minutes 💀💀🤣🤣
Pete Ek
2024-12-04 19:17:35 +0000 UTC
It will always baffle me that Jeff of all people doesn’t care for musicals.
Reynaldo K. Cruz
2024-12-04 18:57:42 +0000 UTC
Guys, obviously the sequel is called Wiicked. Thankfully Nintendo is not known to be a litigious company.
Matt Rockman
2024-12-04 17:07:40 +0000 UTC
Unrelated to this week's episode, but I know Evil Does Not Exist has come up before. I just watched a funnier and somehow even more relentless movie. It's a 2024 US release on Mubi called Do Not Expect Too Much from the End of the World.
Mark Harper
2024-12-04 15:23:41 +0000 UTC
@cardassian… Just going to interject that your trollish, condescending comments in this thread, especially to a fellow Filmcast supporter, are really jarring, and do not come across as coming from “an adult.” Please show some respect and treat members of this community with dignity and basic courtesy. One can disagree with someone else’s opinion without being nasty about it. That is all. Peace…
CDMatthew
2024-12-04 12:42:41 +0000 UTC
Setting aside your review of WICKED, I’m just super-grateful that I got a bunch of giggles this morning from you guys riffing on JUROR NO. 2 and Eastwood movie titles…THIS is truly the content that I’m here for!! (It must have been “The Rookie” at Warner Brothers that made this terrible decision!)
CDMatthew
2024-12-04 12:12:19 +0000 UTC
Excited Dave and Devindra liked Nickel Boys, that was developed by my team at Orion Pictures as well as our partners, Plan B! Hope Jeff gets a chance to watch in theaters as I think he will really love it
John Terranova
2024-12-04 06:42:36 +0000 UTC
Every Which Way But Loose!
Davey Boy
2024-12-04 06:27:14 +0000 UTC
Again, do know with 100% certainty everything that's going to happen in it? Remakes are often quite different than the original, otherwise, why even bother remaking it? If i saw The Thing From Another World and then decades later John Carpenter's remake came out, only the vaguest plot elements were the same. This was also true with Cronenberg's remake of The Fly. Robert Eggers strikes me as a filmmaker who has more to offer than just an exact duplicate of a movie he likes, only this time with sound!
So yes, it bugs me when there are suddenly a whole bunch of reviews out there for a movie that the general public can't see for weeks. If the movie is ready to go, then they should release it now when there aren't really any other big movies coming out. Instead the studios always wait and then dump like 10 actually good movies all at once in the last week of the year, and if you don't scramble like mad to try to see them all, some are out of theaters in a week or two.
So even though it's apparently ready to go, instead it's releasing on the same day as A Complete Unknown, Better Man, Baby Doll and The Fire Inside, and less than a week after Mufasa, Sonic 3, and The Brutalist open. Either way, I don't like the idea of starting a bunch of conversations around reviews for a movie that can't be seen for a month. I get that they don't want a repeat of what happened to The Iron Claw, but then just go ahead and release it for everyone.
Stranger2Reality
2024-12-04 02:30:40 +0000 UTC
Devendra and David, you might like The Reformatory by Tananarive Due, which is an award winning horror novel that came out last year about a real life reformatory school in the 1950s.
Matthew Henshaw
2024-12-04 02:04:53 +0000 UTC
Thanks for this, it's been so long since I read the book or saw the Broadway I couldn't really point to anything one way or the other.
And I'm concerned about the 2nd part also.... It's a far weaker act for sure. And it does not end on a high note. Very curious to see how that goes over.
Margaret Peffy Margie Maggie
2024-12-04 01:58:54 +0000 UTC
Yes caring about spoilers is pointless, you will most likely forget most of it before you sit down and watch it. But a 98 year old project is embarrassing.
Thomas Hutter is going to Transylvania, there will be a count Orlok, vampires, just, death.
Grow up dude
Cardassian Vexillology
2024-12-04 01:54:24 +0000 UTC
So then it would seem like to you someone worrying about any spoilers for anything is hilarious, and thus your comment was pretty meaningless.
Stranger2Reality
2024-12-04 01:46:52 +0000 UTC
I'm different i don't care about spoilers I'm an adult. I watched the totally rad show were Jeff recommended Game of thrones season 1. So before I watched the season I read the Wikipedia page and learned all the spoilers about Ned getting his head chopped off. But I still was shocked when I watched the show.
So the idea of you being put off about learning about a plot point from the movie and that ruining the movie for you is so embarrassing.
As someone who doesn't care about spoilers I can't imagine your world view. "Oh I read a tweet that they kill the vampire at the end my day is ruined!!"
Is so hilarious
Cardassian Vexillology
2024-12-04 01:44:45 +0000 UTC
Also yeah Act 2 kinda stinks, very nervous to see how they can do it. But yes TWO new songs are in wicked part two, Bailey said it first, but Chu finally confirmed it
Jay Wood
2024-12-04 01:42:23 +0000 UTC
Will say while there is a lot in the book, they didn’t really incorporate that stuff here. The book is VERY messed up so it was more just dialogue in the scenes that exist, a lot of slower pace for delivering the lines - not rushing through the musical. But no, not a lot if anything was added.
Jay Wood
2024-12-04 01:38:53 +0000 UTC
Jeff Cannata: "no, it's the children who are wrong" 😂
Margaret Peffy Margie Maggie
2024-12-04 01:30:05 +0000 UTC
You, your own film review podcast: “How can we possible describe how WB treated a Clint Eastwood film.. how, how, how…?”
Me, a fan who also listens to Blank Check: “Theeeey ….. (deep inhale)—
John Halski
2024-12-04 01:19:47 +0000 UTC
Awards consideration- so they wanna make sure all the critics see the movie before voting period, but also don’t wanna release it to the public until much later. It’s so annoying and backwards
Jay Wood
2024-12-04 00:57:41 +0000 UTC
Why? Do know with 100% certainty everything that's going to happen in it?
Stranger2Reality
2024-12-04 00:54:51 +0000 UTC
Caring about spoilers for that movie is hilarious.
Cardassian Vexillology
2024-12-04 00:47:23 +0000 UTC
Why did Nosferatu get so many super early screenings? I'm excited to see it but bummed I have to wait till the 25th for it to come out, and with all the people who have already seen it I'm worried about spoilers. Maybe that's silly though, since it's a remake of a century old movie, but I don't know how exactly faithful it is to the original.
Stranger2Reality
2024-12-03 23:52:06 +0000 UTC