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Ep. 801 - Wicked

David, Devindra, and Jeff dive into the world of Moana 2, sleuth around with A Man on the Inside, and walk a mile in someone else’s shoes with Nickel Boys. Then they take to the skies with the blockbuster musical Wicked.

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Weekly Plugs
David - Decoding Everything: Why We’re Stuck in an Endless Hell of Live Action Remake
Devindra - Engadget Podcast on the changing social media landscape + TWiT 1008
Jeff - Jeff’s Cameo Page

Shownotes (All timestamps are approximate only)   
What we've been watching (~00:05:46)
Jeff - Moana 2, A Man on the Inside, Nightbitch, Didi
David - A Man on the Inside, Nickel Boys, The Franchise
Devindra - A Man on the Inside, Nickel Boys, Nosferatu, Conclave

Featured Review (~00:57:21)    
Wicked
SPOILERS (~01:18:19)

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Ep. 801 - Wicked

Comments

1:03:28 Devindra with the “What?” regarding Turkey Trott🤣

Greyson Flax

This is a legit take, IMO…🙂

CDMatthew

The Clint Eastwood riff at the end of this episode had me gasping for air I laughed so hard!

Sean Fitzpatrick

“REMEMBER when a candy bar cost $.25”? You guys really are getting old ;)

Mark Griffith

The Wizard Of Oz is superior to Wicked.

Cameron Stewart

I didn’t think it was boring - in fact for a near 3 hour movie I was shocked at how briskly it moved, I didn’t feel the length at all - but I really think it was very mediocre. I don’t think even one of the songs is as good or as memorable as any from the 1939 Wizard Of Oz, I thought most of the direction was pretty aimless, the musical choreography pretty incoherent, the cinematography pretty bad. I’m surprised by the trio of rave reviews here. But I will agree that Grande and Erivo are both really great.

Cameron Stewart

I don’t know what Kool-aid everyone else is drinking, I would love some in order to enjoy this more. I found it terribly boring.

toeknee

Yeah but it is explicitly anti Nazi so gains all the points back 💪🏻

Reynaldo K. Cruz

You seem to be forgetting that the Sound of Music was not directed by the director of Crazy Rich Asians like Wicked was, so it's gonna lose points for that 😂

Stranger2Reality

Do you think they would first make an animated version of Hamilton (with anthropomorphized foxes or something as the characters), and then two years later do a live action adaptation of that animated feature? 😂

Stranger2Reality

It's back now! 😁

Armando Ferrari

I LOVED Wicked, but I feel like I’m the only person who thinks they botched Defying Gravity. Chu decided to pause the songs momentum over and over again to insert dialog and plot, thus causing the impact of the songs crescendo to completely fall flat in comparison to the stage version. The original song builds and builds into this incredible climactic moment, and Chu’s decision to draw it out and slow it down to show more of what’s going on made it way less impactful in the film version.

Steven Kennick

I thought Ariana was great and had big Miss Piggy energy, whipping her hair around and being dramatic. Also, isn’t “everyone” waiting to watch Juror #2 on MAX the one to watch for HBO on the 20th? I would wait a week for that review if you could.

Seth Offenberger

I would take one Julie Andrew’s over one hundred Ariana grandes. Absurd.

Reynaldo K. Cruz

Dave sound of music clears wicked are you out of your mind?

Reynaldo K. Cruz

I like convenience of Podcasts and music all in one place. I've had the Patreom feed on Spotify for a long time, but it disappeared this week.

Armando Ferrari

I recommend the Overcost app for podcasts, though I do use Spotify for music…

CDMatthew

How long do you think before Disney makes a film adaptation of Hamilton?

Mathew

Anyone else use Spotify for podcasts and getting the "not available in your area" error when trying to import the Patreom feed?

Armando Ferrari

Or was it Every WITCH Way But Loose??

CDMatthew

The last 4 minutes 💀💀🤣🤣

Pete Ek

It will always baffle me that Jeff of all people doesn’t care for musicals.

Reynaldo K. Cruz

Guys, obviously the sequel is called Wiicked. Thankfully Nintendo is not known to be a litigious company.

Matt Rockman

Unrelated to this week's episode, but I know Evil Does Not Exist has come up before. I just watched a funnier and somehow even more relentless movie. It's a 2024 US release on Mubi called Do Not Expect Too Much from the End of the World.

Mark Harper

@cardassian… Just going to interject that your trollish, condescending comments in this thread, especially to a fellow Filmcast supporter, are really jarring, and do not come across as coming from “an adult.” Please show some respect and treat members of this community with dignity and basic courtesy. One can disagree with someone else’s opinion without being nasty about it. That is all. Peace…

CDMatthew

Setting aside your review of WICKED, I’m just super-grateful that I got a bunch of giggles this morning from you guys riffing on JUROR NO. 2 and Eastwood movie titles…THIS is truly the content that I’m here for!! (It must have been “The Rookie” at Warner Brothers that made this terrible decision!)

CDMatthew

Excited Dave and Devindra liked Nickel Boys, that was developed by my team at Orion Pictures as well as our partners, Plan B! Hope Jeff gets a chance to watch in theaters as I think he will really love it

John Terranova

Every Which Way But Loose!

Davey Boy

Again, do know with 100% certainty everything that's going to happen in it? Remakes are often quite different than the original, otherwise, why even bother remaking it? If i saw The Thing From Another World and then decades later John Carpenter's remake came out, only the vaguest plot elements were the same. This was also true with Cronenberg's remake of The Fly. Robert Eggers strikes me as a filmmaker who has more to offer than just an exact duplicate of a movie he likes, only this time with sound! So yes, it bugs me when there are suddenly a whole bunch of reviews out there for a movie that the general public can't see for weeks. If the movie is ready to go, then they should release it now when there aren't really any other big movies coming out. Instead the studios always wait and then dump like 10 actually good movies all at once in the last week of the year, and if you don't scramble like mad to try to see them all, some are out of theaters in a week or two. So even though it's apparently ready to go, instead it's releasing on the same day as A Complete Unknown, Better Man, Baby Doll and The Fire Inside, and less than a week after Mufasa, Sonic 3, and The Brutalist open. Either way, I don't like the idea of starting a bunch of conversations around reviews for a movie that can't be seen for a month. I get that they don't want a repeat of what happened to The Iron Claw, but then just go ahead and release it for everyone.

Stranger2Reality

Devendra and David, you might like The Reformatory by Tananarive Due, which is an award winning horror novel that came out last year about a real life reformatory school in the 1950s.

Matthew Henshaw

Thanks for this, it's been so long since I read the book or saw the Broadway I couldn't really point to anything one way or the other. And I'm concerned about the 2nd part also.... It's a far weaker act for sure. And it does not end on a high note. Very curious to see how that goes over.

Margaret Peffy Margie Maggie

Yes caring about spoilers is pointless, you will most likely forget most of it before you sit down and watch it. But a 98 year old project is embarrassing. Thomas Hutter is going to Transylvania, there will be a count Orlok, vampires, just, death. Grow up dude

Cardassian Vexillology

So then it would seem like to you someone worrying about any spoilers for anything is hilarious, and thus your comment was pretty meaningless.

Stranger2Reality

I'm different i don't care about spoilers I'm an adult. I watched the totally rad show were Jeff recommended Game of thrones season 1. So before I watched the season I read the Wikipedia page and learned all the spoilers about Ned getting his head chopped off. But I still was shocked when I watched the show. So the idea of you being put off about learning about a plot point from the movie and that ruining the movie for you is so embarrassing. As someone who doesn't care about spoilers I can't imagine your world view. "Oh I read a tweet that they kill the vampire at the end my day is ruined!!" Is so hilarious

Cardassian Vexillology

Also yeah Act 2 kinda stinks, very nervous to see how they can do it. But yes TWO new songs are in wicked part two, Bailey said it first, but Chu finally confirmed it

Jay Wood

Will say while there is a lot in the book, they didn’t really incorporate that stuff here. The book is VERY messed up so it was more just dialogue in the scenes that exist, a lot of slower pace for delivering the lines - not rushing through the musical. But no, not a lot if anything was added.

Jay Wood

Jeff Cannata: "no, it's the children who are wrong" 😂

Margaret Peffy Margie Maggie

You, your own film review podcast: “How can we possible describe how WB treated a Clint Eastwood film.. how, how, how…?” Me, a fan who also listens to Blank Check: “Theeeey ….. (deep inhale)—

John Halski

Awards consideration- so they wanna make sure all the critics see the movie before voting period, but also don’t wanna release it to the public until much later. It’s so annoying and backwards

Jay Wood

Why? Do know with 100% certainty everything that's going to happen in it?

Stranger2Reality

Caring about spoilers for that movie is hilarious.

Cardassian Vexillology

Why did Nosferatu get so many super early screenings? I'm excited to see it but bummed I have to wait till the 25th for it to come out, and with all the people who have already seen it I'm worried about spoilers. Maybe that's silly though, since it's a remake of a century old movie, but I don't know how exactly faithful it is to the original.

Stranger2Reality


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