S2E11: Jennifer's Body
Added 2022-10-26 21:24:30 +0000 UTCIt's a very spooky halloween spooktactular as we turn our vision towards a subject few would dare discuss: Teenage girls! Writer, Youtuber, Podcaster and Elected Government Official (Swedish) Mia Mulder joins us to ask one very simple question: Is this movie about 9/11? The answer is yes, by the way. It is.
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And listen to her podcast at https://twitter.com/leechfestpod
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Comments
Tapping in years late to confirm the movie is not in fact about 9/11. I’ll chalk the errors up to none of them being American and not really knowing what America was like in the 2000s
Joseph
2025-03-19 16:45:40 +0000 UTCI just realized something. At least to Nova’s mind, Chip is Colin Powell.
Ineloquent Reverie
2024-12-22 12:44:37 +0000 UTCAny update on November and Mia doing a podcast together?
Beach Boy Sammy
2024-09-11 07:26:19 +0000 UTCIncidentally, Megan Fox now has a trans (or at least gender non-conforming) kid, who she appears to be very supportive of
lousullivan.bf
2024-02-26 15:39:24 +0000 UTCI watched this movie before listening to the episode. I am also a Dev. (The first three letters of my name are dev) and I'm also a little baby (as Dev mentioned they were) This podcast inspired me to watch this movie, finally. Worth it, in spite of having to look away during the gory bits.
Her Fierceness
2024-02-03 12:51:53 +0000 UTCThey’ve mentioned the idea of doing a podcast together before on an episode of wtyp (the Hindenburg episode, highly recommend)
Fern
2023-11-13 04:05:28 +0000 UTCThis has been bothering me all winter. Oil is NOT ferromagnetic. It's not any other kind of magnetic, either.
OvO Hoot
2023-04-01 15:54:17 +0000 UTClove the arc Alice goes through on this episode. “You’re all insane, this movie isn’t about 9/11”. “It’s using 9/11 imagery because it was made in the early 2000’s and is more illustrative of small-town grief” “It’s a minor theme.” “oh pshaw, I know you’re going to insinuate that Needy using a boxcutter is a 9/11 allusion. Wait shit.” “It was an illegal kill squad!”
ThighPaigestess
2023-02-24 14:19:17 +0000 UTCJennifer’s body is not a movie about 9/11, it’s a movie which takes place in a post 9/11 world, and doesn’t shy away from it
Amy Rose
2022-11-15 22:26:11 +0000 UTCI hope you will make a episode of Bit, sometime :)
Angerboda
2022-11-09 12:16:53 +0000 UTCIt's weird how many people who were definitely around after 9/11 and were probably bombarded with American media of the time think this is a 9/11 movie instead of a movie that's basically using it as a backdrop. Tons of satirical media at the time would reference it because it was so inescapable, plus just enough time had passed and the reaction to the Iraq War had been so negative they could get away with making fun of it more than you could have in like, 2003 or 2005. The movie was way more about performative mourning than 9/11. It was just a useful cultural reference point for mocking it. Also, if you've seen a lot of Diablo Codie stuff from back in the day, and the things she wrote, and the things she said around her work, she's a very aughts style feminist and Alice's reading of it getting scared of it's own extreme response to patriarchy is probably the more accurate read of what happens to Jennifer.
Lori Butcher
2022-11-06 02:43:38 +0000 UTCFair, but if you've seen her tweets then you know that actually everything is about jk growling.
Cate Kneale
2022-11-05 13:41:15 +0000 UTCThis was a great episode thanks
Ed Bevan
2022-11-01 22:53:47 +0000 UTCI love "boy-run media" for the very 2nd wave 1970s-ass reason of using the same kind of language to talk down to men the same way adult women are talked down to by being called "girls". I feel like "patriarchal media" or like "man-run media" has more connotations of like Power and Intent, like Dudes in Suits In A Board Room whereas "boy-run media" gives much more "scared male children crying wolf to get their way". GOD I love this movie
Lee Aldowaldo
2022-10-31 12:43:59 +0000 UTCCommenting for the first time to say that I watched this movie months ago and 100% had both the trans/lesbian and 9/11 readings of it, everyone but Alice on this podcast is right and I 100% want more analysis of this movie to talk about it. Plus, to also poke a bit at Alice's "Official Narrative Believer" status, I'll point out that I got the implication that the band and/or whatever demons they were working with caused the fire as cover to abduct Jennifer. That gives me the extra interesting reading that Jennifer might represent the people of Iraq and Afghanistan that end up being victimized by the CIA/MIC after 9/11, but also eventually hunted and killed by Needy (the American public) who sees her as the monster instead of going after the people really responsible.
Geckonator
2022-10-31 00:49:36 +0000 UTCPat Tillman was also killed accidentally by friendly fire. Which the top brass tried to haphazardly cover up, because they knew it could devastate their recruiting narrative. Which all just deepens the irony.
Kate
2022-10-29 19:36:50 +0000 UTCWhile we're talking about 9/11, Pat Tillman was a professional football player who went to war after the attacks, got killed, and then got turned into a figurehead and recruiting tool for the millitary. No relation to this at all, obviously. Dunno why I even brought it up.
Xavier Daughenbaugh
2022-10-29 08:32:54 +0000 UTCI would absolutely love to listen to a Mia and Alice podcast. I have no idea what it would be about (other than 9/11 of course), but I suspect that it'd be amazing.
Sylvie
2022-10-28 19:50:46 +0000 UTCi read the sort of maudlin grief over tragedy as earnestly more of a heathers thing, i think alice is right in that its about the sort of small town american culture where everyone is trying to affect the proprietousness of their grief, which is something you have to do with small town america and more specifically with small town american high schools, the fact that tragedy in the us is kind of inexorably tied to 9/11 is somewhat undercut by everything in the us, especially media being about 9/11 in some sense, 9/11 just becomes a sort of synecdoche for tragedy in general in all american media post 2001, im not sure therefore that its about 9/11 any more than its about the oklahoma city bombing, say
Login
2022-10-28 19:44:50 +0000 UTCMe, emotionally devastated from imposter syndrome after Hedwig and the Angry Inch: This movie has to be 100% about 9/11. Nothing trans-related, just 9/11.
gerewodezyakyry
2022-10-28 14:00:56 +0000 UTCThis movie is definitely about misplaced and performative grief. My favorite scene is actually only in the extended edition! https://youtu.be/6ysQYM7OldM It’s Colin’s friends at his funeral being goth and overly dramatic about his death, to which his mom snaps back. It’s so good and I wish it had been in the regular version!
Samariel Hastur
2022-10-27 19:37:30 +0000 UTCWaiting for a "That body of yours is just absurd" joke
Twi
2022-10-27 18:39:06 +0000 UTCWhen I watched this movie the vision of Megan fox levitating and yelling "why must you undermine everything I do?" was seared into my mind for weeks
brodie
2022-10-27 15:42:00 +0000 UTCIs Chip really supposed to intuit that the girl he's having sex with is psychically linked to someone else?
Ben Schwabe
2022-10-27 15:01:05 +0000 UTCCan’t believe they made a lesbian movie about 9/11
Ramona Mantegani
2022-10-27 14:00:16 +0000 UTCHere for the 9/11 tag
Eric Adams (German)
2022-10-27 05:28:21 +0000 UTCSlaps without having even seen the movie
Eric Adams (German)
2022-10-27 05:25:57 +0000 UTCALICE POD WITH MIA I WILL PAY REAL MONEY DO IT DO IT DO IT
Bryan
2022-10-27 03:04:30 +0000 UTCThis is indisputably my favorite part of the Alice Caldwell-Kelly extended podcast universe. Thank you
Mark Hardgrove
2022-10-27 02:14:19 +0000 UTCMalice Coldskull-Scary
The Good Poster
2022-10-27 01:05:23 +0000 UTCOh thank god I'm not the only person who thinks this movie is about 9/11.
DangCat
2022-10-27 01:05:16 +0000 UTCEverything is about 9/11. Except 9/11, which is about bottom surgery.
Hawxy
2022-10-27 00:24:06 +0000 UTCEveryone: This is a metaphor for 9/11 Alice: No! Also Alice: Needy has a box cutter Everyone: [Silence]
David L
2022-10-27 00:00:45 +0000 UTCMALICE Caldwell-SKULLY, Abi-GHOUL Thorn, and I guess Devon's scary enough on their own. Mia MOULDER if you want to go Crypt-keeper.
Raymond Price
2022-10-26 23:07:30 +0000 UTCPlz a Mia and Alice pod
dm
2022-10-26 23:06:21 +0000 UTC
