S2E28.25: Cop Land
Added 2023-07-12 22:00:03 +0000 UTCIt's a Double Dragon this week as Abi is getting, and I'm quoting directly here, 'Dome the likes of which you cannot imagine'. So instead of trying to imagine this, we watched the 1997 movie Cop Land! If you're one of the fans who suggested this, I chose this one because of you specifically. Promise.
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i have to argue somewhat with november here - while true you can read some less than savory aspects of this film, i feel like the misunderstanding of both the time period this is set in and the real genre hurt this review of it i put down that this 90s movie that is actually set in the 90s is less of a neo-noir/crime/cop movie and much more of a neo-western - you can see many of the traits of one here: the lone sheriff in a crooked town, the shootout in the early morning, hell even ray liotta’s call to adventure retaking is a western trope
kinoverite
2024-06-21 04:02:55 +0000 UTCI've seen some 'cop towns', during my couple years trucking... weird vibes.
Christopher Green
2024-05-06 06:03:47 +0000 UTCAs a south American, that you would to think that cops being involved with mob and drug trafficking makes them somehow extraordinary and not just run of the mill cops is fascinating.
Matias
2024-03-23 23:36:59 +0000 UTCI can't wait for you guys to watch the opposite of this kind of still own cop movie, Cobra
Steezcake_Factory
2023-08-02 13:07:11 +0000 UTCAhhh yes, I see now thank you
Will
2023-07-30 22:29:26 +0000 UTCyou see, when two women love each other very much...
Wisp
2023-07-29 07:48:24 +0000 UTCold man here, what does dome mean?
Will
2023-07-28 06:20:16 +0000 UTCi listened to this at lunch
Curatrix Ribston
2023-07-24 11:29:43 +0000 UTCWhat does dome mean?
Oh No
2023-07-23 02:20:29 +0000 UTCshouldn't have renumbered, coulda just had three episode 28.5s
A Sentient Mongoose
2023-07-20 12:32:01 +0000 UTCVery well said
Vincent Dahl
2023-07-19 17:20:37 +0000 UTCI took the ear thing as kind of a George Bailey type deal. Stallone’s character is meant to be sympathetic and good; He did the right and heroic thing in a moment of crisis without hesitation, but because of that couldn’t achieve all of his dreams. The qualities and implied motivations of wanting to genuinely help people that would’ve made him a ‘good’ cop made him unsuitable for the job
Rachel K
2023-07-18 14:51:55 +0000 UTCI know that it has no relation to Rambo nor Stallone, but have you considered doing Police Academy? You can totally skip the first one of the franchise, the second one is very transparent, has guys you might love to see and if it does for a good episode there are 7 other movies in the series ending in the USSR with Operation Moscow starring Christopher Lee and Ron Perlman, guys we definitely love to see.
Lew
2023-07-18 00:35:12 +0000 UTCMight I submit Demolition Man as an option for a future bonus? It’s another movie where Stallone is a cop but this time it’s sci fi
Mizzen
2023-07-17 23:00:21 +0000 UTCNext week: Rambo - Fourth Blood
-Kris-
2023-07-17 19:58:19 +0000 UTCI rewatched Grosse Pointe Blank yesterday and now I really want you to do that, it definitely has things to say about being a professional killer, killing the President of Paraguay with a fork and the necessity of joining a union and it's very fun. John Cusack may also be the most politically based filmstar on twitte and I do not say this lightly. Or not. It's your show 🙂
Cate Kneale
2023-07-16 11:48:40 +0000 UTCJames Mangold is not a name I particularly recognise, but looking through his filmography, he has directed quite a few I have enjoyed.
Scaredyfish
2023-07-16 10:11:31 +0000 UTCSpeaking of cops and masculinity, have any of you seen LA Confidential?
Bingus
2023-07-16 06:38:11 +0000 UTCHonestly hearing you talk about this, makes me wonder what you think about Max Payne. Cause it's also a failed Noir, spaffs it's game heritage up the wall. And has NY cops being all just. I'm a little guy, I'm a little guy that's never killed anyone. Or teasing the idea that Max Payne would get in trouble for his wallet being found on a dead woman
Foxing around.
2023-07-15 17:38:56 +0000 UTCAs someone from the super cop areas of New Jersey all of this clocks - a former uncle I had was a local cop who claimed the money he got to throw around was something he found in the woods
John Leavitt
2023-07-15 00:02:20 +0000 UTCToday while "working from home" I watched this movie, then Serpico cos obviously, followed by a rewatch of (last time was about 20 years ago) Dog day afternoon.. Holy shit please do Dog Day Afternoon!
mortran
2023-07-14 17:46:38 +0000 UTCtbh this makes perfect sense and is exactly what i'd expect of a mcro-society made entirely of bullies
Karl Childers
2023-07-14 12:51:25 +0000 UTCOn well observed characterisation and casual cruelty. I've been arrested a few times. And so had the chance to observe cops from the holding cells. There is a pervasive, vicious cruelty to each other. As soon as one officer leaves the room at least one other officer will immediately disparage them to every other officer in the room. Accusations of stupidity, laziness, incompetence, as well as a slew of gendered, racialised, and sexualised slurs. The kind of words to which violence would be an understandable response. Every cop has to know that other cops talk about them like this. Secondly, i happen to know several therapists who treat workplace trauma. All of them relate that cops spend all their off time socialising with other cops. But when a cop is off sick or on disability leave they are harshly ostracised. They are just cut dead. To me these anecdotes suggest that cops are bound together by mutual abuse. Like a hen, standing out means being pecked to death by the rest of the flock. 'Copland' half gets this. Most cops are the Stallone character. But they are also the Keitel character. All each other's Renfield. In a kind of inverse solidarity.
Jacob Vardy
2023-07-14 11:37:27 +0000 UTCI do agree with Devon that the idea that Superboy murdering the unarmed black men is slightly ambiguous--it tells a better story. HOWEVER, there is really no excuse for shooting at a fleeing vehicle?? You do not know who is in the car, you do not know clearly what is behind and beyond the car in that split second, and that car does not present an immediate threat to your life. It's a wrongful use of lethal force any way you look at it.
Alex Anderson
2023-07-14 01:08:36 +0000 UTCThis sort of Cop Movie, a Cop Movie made between Rodney King when America awkwardly examined cops as an occupying army and 9/11 when all cops are firefighters, is my Steez. The dumber, more high camp companion piece to this is A little film called Strange Days(1995). Warning, you will feel the urge to rend.
chris
2023-07-13 21:01:51 +0000 UTCnot sure how you'd ever work it but you should do Commando at some point as a movie where as an antithesis to Rambo when they come to demand the main character do some jungle action he just decides to do the opposite of that and kill them all. not sure its got a lot of messaging but it did affect the rambo franchise because arnold 1-upped rambo
scara b
2023-07-13 20:51:48 +0000 UTCIt’s also an extended infomercial for a Finnish submachine gun with all its available accessories
jimbozo
2023-07-13 18:09:41 +0000 UTClol i didn't realize that Tony Sirico snuck into this one, nice
Karl Childers
2023-07-13 16:29:02 +0000 UTC"Go to lunch" has big Liam from WTYP energy.
ScottAsh
2023-07-13 16:12:30 +0000 UTCI do like that we can divine the exact moment the timeline split is when Alice dropped from the call on First Blood and Devon and Abby bonded over how cool Rambo is
G Goldhar
2023-07-13 14:48:29 +0000 UTCAlice + Devon = Double Dragon Abi + Alice = Girl's Night Abi + Devon = ?
vercingix
2023-07-13 14:26:33 +0000 UTCYeah that was my thought too. So I think this might be a rare miscue by the KJB crew, as at one point they mention CDs in the movie. The CD wasn't released publicly until 1983 in the USA and didn't out-sell cassettes until the early 90s .
Mark Schwagner
2023-07-13 14:22:39 +0000 UTCjust picturing Abby in the photo with Trump and King Salman where they are all standing around a glowing dome and touching it
G Goldhar
2023-07-13 14:13:37 +0000 UTCa friend with questionable tastes recommended this to me years ago, man it was awful
anamoy
2023-07-13 14:05:57 +0000 UTCi don't think every police force everywhere is deeply enmeshed with organized crime, but the NYPD specifically is for sure deeply enmeshed with organized crime
Karl Childers
2023-07-13 13:57:41 +0000 UTCIdk why I couldn't imagine the whatever dome Abby is getting. Domes are really not that complex of a shape.
brodie
2023-07-13 13:19:15 +0000 UTC"If you're one of the fans who suggested this, I chose this one because of you specifically. Promise." I will hold this feeling of validation with me until I wither and rot into nothingness, hell yeah ^^
Delta357
2023-07-13 13:04:10 +0000 UTCim so glad you enjoyed this film! i wouldn't want to be a naughty hog who recommends bad films
Karl Childers
2023-07-13 12:59:52 +0000 UTCI'm curious if they'll get to Cobra. Probably won't get much out of it though the basic plot is that Sylvester Stallone kills members of a fascist death cult and has terrible chemistry with a super model.
Elder Dog
2023-07-13 12:38:12 +0000 UTCThe sign "Garrison, NJ - Pop. 1280" is a reference to the novel "Pop. 1280" by Jim Thompson, about a small town that is controlled by an outwardly dim-witted and affable and secretly psychopathically scheming sheriff. Also: the bomb squad cop is Edie Falco aka Carmela Soprano and the mob guy we only see in De Niro's evidence pictures is Tony Sirico aka Paulie Walnuts. Love to see them too.
BarFly
2023-07-13 11:53:26 +0000 UTCJames Mangold been making bangers since the 90s
kinoverite
2023-07-13 06:27:26 +0000 UTCBut consider: That WAS very funny
Jake Collingwood
2023-07-13 06:07:20 +0000 UTCI really really *really* hate to be that asshole, but this isn’t a 1970s period piece. New Jersey just looks like that.
Enby dill dough
2023-07-13 03:04:53 +0000 UTCA good hog rec to help pay the 1000 year penance for choosing Penguins of Madagascar that one time.
Tall Jeff
2023-07-13 00:27:29 +0000 UTCI listened to this while at work and I appreciate how Alice used the "go to lunch" drop at the end, because it was my lunch break time as the episode ended
AaronMk91
2023-07-12 23:59:49 +0000 UTC“I grew up in one of these” explains a few things about Alice
Final Bond Girl
2023-07-12 22:20:34 +0000 UTCMan, I must not remember this movie at all. I thought it was set in the 90s when it came out.
Brian Taulbee
2023-07-12 22:18:22 +0000 UTCThe Double Dragon tag had me excited that you were actually covering the movie Double Dragon.
Jon W
2023-07-12 22:16:52 +0000 UTCSome the likes you cannot imagine is wild, good for her
Mateo Castillo
2023-07-12 22:13:47 +0000 UTC
