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S3E15.5: To The Bone

If we're having fun on one feed, it frees us up to get REAL on the other one.
So Let's talk about Marti Noxon's 2017 movie To The Bone, a film about a young woman struggling with anorexia nervosa.

Content warning: Obviously, discussion of eating disorders start to finish.

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S3E15.5: To The Bone

Comments

So the conclusion about masculinity that this podcast about gender comes to is that I should become Keanu Reeves? That's kind of a high bar, I'm just gonna have a nap.

Australian Estuary Pirate

Ace here, THANK YOU for explaining sexual desire, I so don't get it lmao

Dannysaysnoo

@1:22:30-ish "It's hard to do the basic tasks of maintaining your life if you believe you don't deserve to live." This really got me. This episode helped me a lot re: I'M NOT ALONE. I have a hard time talking about certain things. I have GI problems, so eating is tricky, but also I think about food in weird ways, which I don't know quite how to explain. @1:09:30 -ish. Wow. I have scars, too. I had a friend who encouraged me to have them covered with tattoos, and if that's your vibe and you have the $$, go for it! If, however, they've just become a part of you, IDK. Until someone reminds me about them, I've forgotten they're there and about my stretch marks, too. All off this is tricky. It's a complicated episode. I appreciate y'all.

0ctomaton

3:45 given the topic at hand in this one i think it's also worth noting that another group of people that routinely get labeled as "difficult patient" is fat people. if you're fat then doctors will tend to write off any problems you have with "go lose weight and then we'll talk" and call you oppositional and aggressive if you push back. there are so many eminently treatable conditions that go ignored because not treating fat patients as real people is so standard in the medical industry, and it's difficult to even tell how much needless suffering and death has been caused by that naturally that's comorbid with other demographics like those abbi listed too - good luck getting any gender-affirming surgeries as a fat trans person, when most surgeons will simply refuse to operate on people above a certain size

mira_drgn

💜

Hannah Reid

This episode struck a cord, although I haven't dealt with an eating disorder myself, I've closely known and cared about people with it, I've dealt with depression for the past two years. Thanks for this episode, KJB team. *I accidentally hit send: Balatro is amazing. I love it too. Keep being real, folks.

AbigailTheAmazing!

This was an incredibly emotional episode, even though I'm a cis-man and on the other side of disordered eating from anorexia, I felt a *lot* throughout this, and that idea of moral delusion is a very good way to articulate that. <3 to all of you.

Gabe

I did wrestling in highschool which is just competitively having an eating disorder. Thanks for this episode Also I definitely remember the period where tumblr had a healthy aestheticized self harm sub community which was around the time this film would have been written.

Mallory Crumbliss

regarding SH as a "trend" - i definitely remember a period i the 00's where there was lots of social panic about SH, particularly with girls, and sometimes in association with EDs- maybe just as a "troubled girls do these sorts of things" grouping. it came up as a question a bit with my sister's ED diagnosis.

thejackalope231

No notes, or at least none I necessarily want to inflict on anyone via parasocial attachment. Just, thank you for this ep. 💜

Aundréa McMillan

I'm a compulsive overeater. I doubt I'll ever watch the movie, because it would be prohibitively discomfiting to me. I do appear the thoughtful conversation. I can't relate the the suicidal ideation, but everything else seemed well considered. On the topic of numbing vs. body image—and I know I'm oversimplifying what you said—in my experience it's both. It wasn't until I got clean from the food that I realized how much body dysmorphia I have. I'm quite capable of looking in the mirror and seeing someone m a slimmer body than mine. And. If I had to describe my addiction in one word, it would be "numbing". I ate because I couldn't handle the intensity of being alive in this body, in this moment. So yeah. I'm fucked up in both ways. The body image stuff can absolutely send me into a tailspin *and* assist with the numbing.

Ol' Firebones

I'm going to assume this episode is the universe telling me that it's gonna be fine, cause I'm gonna be real with you it's been a rough couple of days for me

Ryan Sch.

Thanks for talking about this one. It struck a chord.

QuoProQuid

Jesus fucking christ the tonal whiplash on "the baby fall out the pussy" hit me like a truck

DragonT


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