S3E23.5: The Duke of Burgundy
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This week on the bonus feed, November brings us The Duke of Burgundy, a beautiful, timeless movie about just how fucking exhausting it is to be lifestyle D/S.
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The Duke of Burgundy or The Inconsiderate Sub or Kinky Jeanne Dielman
NowhereMan661
2025-05-13 20:32:52 +0000 UTCthis is one of my favorite movies also, I signed up to patreon to listen to this episode! loved hearing y'all talk about it. I remember watching an interview with Peter Strickland where he explained that he deliberately chose to set the movie in this kind of outside-of-society world where the usual complicating factors don't exist so that it would make a point about compromise in relationships in general, rather than about kink or sexuality or gender (I'm paraphrasing not very well, but hopefully that makes sense)
tristan
2025-01-11 18:24:16 +0000 UTCAs a companion piece to this can I suggest "love and leashes". An excellent South Korean feminist film all about consent, care and BDSM. It's a little BDSM 101 compared to the Duke though, no human toilets sadly. Very wholesome, very cute the anti-duke of burgandy if you will.
Gabrielle
2024-08-15 02:19:57 +0000 UTCRather, I feel like the last shots explain exactly what it going on with them, as emphasized by the bug lecture about... i don't remember which moth it was that mutated into a digger for the winter, then came back up in the spring. My take on the relationship is that Cynthia is not even remotely into kink, but loves/is satisfied by Evelyn, but is deathly afraid of losing her. Meanwhile Evelyn loves Cynthia, but is also HORNY. And terminally sub. And so the cycle : in the summer Cynthia tries her best to fulfil Evelyn's kinks even if she doesn't really enjoy any of it, until she breaks down. At which point Evelyn is mortified, and tones her shit down so they can keep being together while doing, well, normal couple shit - loving embraces, picnics, hikes in the fall, snuggles through the winter. Evelyn is bored but she bears it all out of love (and, possibly, fear of losing Cynthia)/ Then Spring comes again and Evelyn grows HOR NY again, and so on. To me it's not a tragedy, it's a modus operandi between two not necessarily compatible persons. Which, ultimately, will never satisfy both of them at the same time ; but as Desproges said, "In love, there's always two people : one's bored, the other sad"
Kobal Deux
2024-08-09 21:34:28 +0000 UTCHaving watched the movie now, I'm afraid I disagree with the gang's interpretation of it being about a "relationship that's gone on too long", or the tragedy of a cycle being revealed in the last few shots.
Kobal Deux
2024-08-09 21:27:11 +0000 UTCsubscribed for this one 😊
Breely
2024-07-26 00:08:59 +0000 UTCI had to watch this in with breaks because Cynthia is too relatable. Especially when she's checking her que card a dozen times because she's really nervous and doesn't want to disappoint Evelyn.
Mags
2024-07-23 23:42:41 +0000 UTCWhat's the cost to sponsor a mannequin since I'm in the states?
Raven Alexis
2024-07-20 05:54:44 +0000 UTCThe "What does it say about kink and queerness" question always feels a little off to me. I'm not sure a movie like this necessarily is, or has to be, saying anything about kink. You could trade out the kink and queerness in this movie while still maintaining the relationship dynamic it explores. If Evelyn was a wife with a very "The man is the head of the house" mindset, who was married to a man who liked model trains, the arc of the movie would be something like, Evelyn loving trains more than he does, pushes him to build more elaborate train sets, enter contests and maybe open a business around them so that she can be a part of it. Under the guise of enjoying their shared hobby together, she begins to treat him as the tool that gets her trains, and he grows to resent the obvious fact that she loves trains more than him. That movie would say nothing about model trains. I really like treating movies like this as saying the same nothing about kink. The kink is neither the problem nor the solution. It's the incidental interest of a couple with an unhealthy relationship dynamic. I think part of recognizing and welcoming kink as a normal part of human nature is allowing it to be incidental.
Rebeccaej
2024-07-20 03:23:29 +0000 UTC
