S3E29.5: The People's Joker
Added 2024-10-11 14:07:29 +0000 UTC2:12 AM going back for more cool transgender art
This week, we're watching Vera Drew's seminal The People's Joker, a coming-of-age autobiographical movie about a closeted trans woman who moves to the big city (gotham) to try to make it as an SNL cast member (clown).
Check out the official website to find screenings or just plain buy the film
https://www.alteredinnocence.net/thepeoplesjoker
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Comments
One of the first lines of the movie is an absolute banger: (paraphrased) woke bruce Wayne has fucked everything up, where is batman
Maxwell Smith
2025-11-25 19:07:26 +0000 UTCI had the opportunity to see this movie at my local film festival when it was fresh, but my mom was in town and wanted to see stuff at that festival with me. Just being a semi-closeted trans woman seeing a trans movie with my mom felt like a no-go at the time, but if I showed her this specific movie I think I would have gotten disowned that night.
mimsycast
2025-04-07 05:59:43 +0000 UTCThis episode really hits hard after these last two weeks of hell news. It definitely makes me feel less alone. I'm going to go color.
Justine Moore
2025-01-30 16:19:26 +0000 UTCI DEEPLY appreciate that Devon has heard of Vampire: The Masquerade and jumped in with that bit. :3
Ariane Signalis is the Elster Signalis Fan Club and challenges you to play SIGNALIS without pointing at any of the characters an
2025-01-02 02:25:38 +0000 UTCThis was a really fun episode! 1:10:33 good luck with that screenplay on the go.
MagneticRose
2024-12-29 16:27:44 +0000 UTCi still get surprised when people recognize me sometimes, because it feels like i should look like a completely unrecognizable generic mii. Abigails part about feeling like you should be completely invisible to dogs hit
Frejo
2024-12-13 13:23:47 +0000 UTCHe's also the inspiration for the evil CEO's mannerisms in Brain Candy, which makes sense because he also created Kids In The Hall.
John Benfield
2024-11-12 05:11:32 +0000 UTCGoon / Guy you love to see: Bob Odenkirk was a goon in this
John
2024-11-04 12:42:27 +0000 UTCIn regards to the specific genre the crew talked about here, I submit Celeste for consideration as a video game example
Parker Squirrell
2024-10-30 12:46:00 +0000 UTCThank YOU KJB for doing really really good podcasting that’s worth paying money for.
Jacem
2024-10-26 10:51:10 +0000 UTCAutomatic doors never open for me.
Greg Dean
2024-10-25 23:43:29 +0000 UTCSNL was never the peak of comedy, but it was the show you watched when you first got to stay up as late as you wanted on a Saturday Night and you laughed a bunch because you were tired enough that a five minute skit that was 4 minutes too long was really funny to you.
Ben Schwabe
2024-10-25 15:30:16 +0000 UTCBest way to make money in Podcasting...butter up your audience in the first couple minutes of every episode. Maybe I should up my membership...tell me again how handsome I am.
Ben Schwabe
2024-10-25 14:40:43 +0000 UTCNovember as M, Devon as the bombshell zaddy, and Abigail as Bond.
Northerly Keebler
2024-10-24 04:20:08 +0000 UTCIt's really funny to me that this movie has closeted gay Batman, because when I watched The Batman for the first time, all I could see was a massive Trans Fem egg, performing masculinity so hard you could feel the pain radiating off the screen.
Miss Norris
2024-10-21 09:05:00 +0000 UTCFuck, I did the black shirt thing too.
Miss Norris
2024-10-21 09:02:35 +0000 UTCGet Vera Drew on board for the Gorilla remake, and also your remake of Tony Macaroni's wild adventure
Doctor of Entomemeology
2024-10-16 05:49:43 +0000 UTCI believe in you
Squash fei
2024-10-15 05:13:19 +0000 UTCTHE PEOPLES JAMES BOND
Squash fei
2024-10-15 05:12:22 +0000 UTC"You can be a 'The Prince' type of trans person"- NO IM NOT WHO TOLD YOU THAT
Candy H
2024-10-15 03:14:39 +0000 UTCDo Stress Positions it’s so good. And it’s a third type of trans fem experience
Connie
2024-10-14 15:01:18 +0000 UTCI'm currently working on the sequel to the "media about being in the closet and also a love letter to childhood media" That being "The transbian rom com about just being newly out of the closet and also a love letter to the media you fell in love with as you came out (in my case cheesy mooshy Chinese and Korean romantic dramatic comedies)"
Gabrielle
2024-10-14 10:39:36 +0000 UTCParts of this really hit me because I've spent the entire last week thinking about how I'm not a real person and specifically how I'll never be able to edit my book into something worth reading because of that
Alma Blue
2024-10-13 23:35:23 +0000 UTCEveryone knows: dogs can't see eggs, dolphins can see pregnant people
Carley They/Themsen
2024-10-13 18:48:12 +0000 UTCNaturally, the thing I latched onto was the whole "energy to create more art bit," sigh, paraphrased from memory. At times like this, I try to remember the adage, "It's more important that the work exist than for it be any good." In other words, finish that draft and then worry if it is any good, existing being the single most important part. I had a teacher who used to say, "Finish the shit draft. That's what it's there for, to be shit," paraphrased from 30ish year old memory.
Keith D. Jones
2024-10-13 18:36:27 +0000 UTCWay back in the before times, I had a podcast. Subject matter is way to embarrassing to mention here and also beside the point. Since the podcast was hosted on my website via RSS, which should tell you something about how long ago this was, I had all the raw numbers, and one episode was being downloaded over and over again to a single IP address. I found this bizarre. I did a reverse lookup of the IP and was able to determine it was somewhere in China . . . sooo, a bot was doing some kind of constantly download loop, I figured. This freaked me out because I was paying for the bandwidth myself. I tried to block the IP and accidentally blocked my entire website. My web host turned off my "block IP" function after that. So yeah, I can imagine metrics being hard to pin down while also being very wonky because there are probably tons of bots junking the stats.
Keith D. Jones
2024-10-13 18:30:43 +0000 UTCThe “I’ve never been happy” line I felt like was referencing the “I’ve never been happier” meme (the vibe of which is I think how a lot of cis people unconsciously view trans people)
HAUNTER
2024-10-13 16:08:57 +0000 UTCLong live the chaos podcast
HAUNTER
2024-10-13 13:59:32 +0000 UTCSo what’s the verdict on the teen formal fit of black shirt and TEAL skinny tie, cuz that was mine 🧐
Rune
2024-10-13 13:15:40 +0000 UTCLove that Abby shared this deeply personal and moving moment from her life and my brain is stuck on the thought "huh, dogs can't see eggs"
Noblesse Oblahaj
2024-10-13 12:56:45 +0000 UTCI think when you have people look at something like Parasite or Squid Game and so willfully ignore the thinnest veneer of metaphor to see what they want, it's nice for a movie to look at the camera and say: "it's about this. Fuck you"
Noblesse Oblahaj
2024-10-13 11:50:12 +0000 UTCI don’t know if it’s all the mother stuff throughout the film but the entire Mx. mxyzptlk bit made me SOB on the way to work out of NOWHERE I didn’t think I needed to see this film but fuck!
Hazel Smith
2024-10-13 09:43:59 +0000 UTCDoes anyone have any suggestions for how to view this film in Australia?
Damien Tonkin
2024-10-13 06:36:26 +0000 UTCFWIW, I decided to rewatch Speed Racer today and the greenscreen in that is far more jarring than the greenscreen in The People's Joker
Chibigodzilla
2024-10-12 23:13:56 +0000 UTCI drove 2 hours to see this movie in the nearest theater that was showing it back in May and it was completely worth it
Valerie's Gradual Futchification
2024-10-12 21:43:01 +0000 UTCHaven’t finished this but you mentioned Boys Weekend which I just read completely by coincidence since my comics professor brought it to class. Just think that’s a cool coincidence
Nerves
2024-10-12 16:34:25 +0000 UTCThe “singing over the line ‘I’m a midnight toker’ hits hard cuz my dad used to sing me “The Boxer” all the time and I didn’t know the line is “the whores on 7th avenue” until my 20s cuz he always sang “the girls” over it.
Whisky_Delta
2024-10-12 15:11:00 +0000 UTCI have found this film and plan to watch it asap. intensely relate to both the feelings of unpersonhood even post transition (I'm coming up on a decade this year!) and many other things. I fear I too am in this movie. relatedly: I have definitely legally obtained versions of the 2nd and 3rd Diabolik films that I think have subtitles? I haven't watched them yet but It's Out There if you are willing to use extremely legal means.
saoirse fitzpatrick
2024-10-12 13:07:41 +0000 UTCAdmittedly I did do the black shirt fit, but I skipped the tie because I was already transgending at that point
Princess Gwynevere
2024-10-12 11:39:38 +0000 UTCDamn near crashed on the freeway because of that
Saint Muerte
2024-10-12 10:45:08 +0000 UTCNovember dead naming herself hit me like a claymore, damn near crashed my work van.
Saint Muerte
2024-10-12 10:43:38 +0000 UTCWell shit Devon, a sure and a whatever, now I can't change my name back to Touchable Tips
Palpable Pips
2024-10-12 10:02:30 +0000 UTCI've been had
Katana King
2024-10-12 07:19:01 +0000 UTCWhat's the crisis roundtable podcast? Anybody figure it out? I'm interested in giving that a peep Jk I found it: https://deepcast.fm/episode/the-state-of-podcasting-roundtable-oct-2024
Katana King
2024-10-12 06:26:24 +0000 UTCI saw this in a packed theater of trans people shortly after I came out to myself but was still closeted to the rest of the world and I cried my eyes out after. It vocalized so much of my childhood that I didn't know how to express. I just recently came out to my mom and almost want to send her this to watch and understand what I went through, but, uhhhhh. No. That's not a good idea! I Saw the TV Glow also had an impact on me, but not nearly to the extent that this movie has. Chock another one up for team People's Joker girlies
Sula
2024-10-12 04:33:53 +0000 UTCchurning out podcasts at the kill james bond factory, a crisis comes along on the belt, "guess we doin crises now"
Candy H
2024-10-12 03:41:58 +0000 UTCNovember: make art Me: instructions unclear, I made a poem comparing my deadname to a candle
I'm a man now but cute nb frog icon can stay
2024-10-12 02:34:21 +0000 UTCThere is an old adage "those that matter don't mind, those who mind don't matter" . You should be true to yourself, even though it's terrifying at the moment. The psychic damage you'll suffer living a lie is a worse fate than living a truth that will be difficult for some people to understand. I wish I had better advice, but I do offer kindness to you. Good luck!
Jason Young
2024-10-12 00:26:27 +0000 UTCYou said in the first comment these movies lit up old memories, it's just the first time you've known what it was.
Public Universal Foe
2024-10-11 23:32:40 +0000 UTCI’m kind of dealing with them for the first time now. I’m not entirely sure. There have been times where i felt more sure about my place with masculinity. I don’t know what any of this means for me yet. But I will certainly need to come to some kind of resolution soon
Adam Ghostly
2024-10-11 22:56:51 +0000 UTCAs an American, Saturday Night Live is easily not the peak of comedy, the cool kids who still watch late night TV watch conan
Public Universal Foe
2024-10-11 21:46:00 +0000 UTCFINE, I FUCKING WILL!
ComicTF
2024-10-11 21:42:25 +0000 UTCOh HELL yes!
Brian Taulbee
2024-10-11 21:29:48 +0000 UTCDo you think it will be easier to engage with these feelings in a year? Do you think it will matter to your partner if it's been 8 years instead of 7? It's not going away, might as well make it sooner and not later
Public Universal Foe
2024-10-11 21:24:58 +0000 UTCthat estrogen that works instantly bit really did hit a little close to home
Alfie Hall
2024-10-11 20:30:50 +0000 UTCAlways love you all and ill follow till the end of the earth but FUCK ME THOSE BLEEPS WERE LOUD.
Christopher Barnes
2024-10-11 19:44:35 +0000 UTCI am having some uhh rumblings given these last two films. I am generally pretty lost in terms of self-actualization and feeling confident in who I am…Some of the details that I have connected to when hearing these two movies have lit up old memories I forgot I had. I remember fixating on the idea that my mother had a later miscarriage right before being pregnant with me, and that if I were a girl, they would have named me Alice. When my depression felt the worst in high school I would imagine Alice being born instead so that I could stop existing. There’s obviously a LOT more (including mostly being interested in lesbian porn when I first found masturbating) but none of this quite feels like a massive alignment towards a new understanding. It feels more like “huh…wonder what this is about?” What should I like do about this? I am in a seven year relationship with someone and even though I think they would take it well I feel so scared of engaging with these feelings. It also might just be that I feel lacking in self-understanding, and I really admire the hosts and trans people I know for their strong sense of self, and so I think to myself well THEY certainly know who they are—why not try what they did?
Adam Ghostly
2024-10-11 19:29:05 +0000 UTCAs someone from inside the corporate podcasting industry there's a sort of dual crisis: a metrics crisis and an extraction crisis. The metrics crisis is that all of the metrics are terrible and how they're calculated and recorded change constantly and it's only getting worse. The trend right now is that most podcasts with a few exceptions (like the one I work on weirdly enough) are hemorrhaging downloads and it's not really clear why. This has spooked the ad people and they're pulling back and that's hurting a lot of people but all of that would be ok except the larger problem with corporate podcasts it that all of the ad money is being pumped into the hideously unprofitable tech-media companies which don't make any money, don't know how to make any money, and probably structurally can't make any money. So all of the ad money flows up to these corporate jackasses and since that's the main revenue stream for the shows and the podcasters don't control it, you have to take the scraps they give or you the ones you're able to claw out of them with a union. Meanwhile that money either gets spent on supporting the other sectors of the company that can't make any money, buying your CEO a new yacht, or gets spent on a $100 million celebrity podcast that no one will listen to like the fucking Megan Merkle one which she didn't even fucking do, her producers had to do the interviews themselves and then she recorded the interviewer's lines later to dub over to make it seem like she did it. So people with profitable shows are just getting screwed as management panics over the Adpocalypse and fires everyone. Meanwhile the company literally owns your name which makes it extremely difficult for anyone who's not already huge to go independent even if you could get out of the non-compete clauses. The corporate ghouls, desperate for revenue to cover for the fact that they don't know how to make any money, are effectively running an entire extremely profitable industry into the ground in order to divert the profits into their pockets, it's all just unbelievably grim. Now realizing this is an entire wall of text lol but someone has to know before they get us all.
The January Storm
2024-10-11 18:35:36 +0000 UTCAs someone who did stand-up on and off for seven years: YEP CAN CONFIRM
Ros Ballinger
2024-10-11 18:24:45 +0000 UTCClearly y'all are just built different
AU Dark Brandon's Evil Twin [Good person]
2024-10-11 17:49:22 +0000 UTCChecking in as a secret third thing listener
Cam Martell
2024-10-11 17:41:39 +0000 UTCGCPD is the organisation JKR wants to run. EDIT: also booo! Glasgow is sold out 😢
Buckeroo
2024-10-11 17:02:01 +0000 UTCWhat Pink Floyd song did she sing?
Jason Young
2024-10-11 16:43:55 +0000 UTCSeeing this in a packed house at the Music Box in Chicago was an all time great theatrical experience. Vera Drew was there and her opening statement before film was just an acapella rendition of a Pink Floyd song. I recommend going through her instagram and seeing all the outfits she wore during the tour. At my showing she had a fur pillbox hat, eyeball earrings, gold fishnet top, and crocs.
Samantha
2024-10-11 16:06:12 +0000 UTCLorne Michaels apparently the inspiration for Dr. Evil’s mannerisms. Otherwise yeah he’s just some sort of Canadian Melkor whose presence defiles the American Saturday.
Tall Jeff
2024-10-11 15:47:24 +0000 UTCFuck! The name thing! My mum will only refer to me by my initials after changing my name too. Weird stuff.
Antichrist Against Fascism
2024-10-11 15:07:53 +0000 UTCGood episode but Nova's bleeps are so much louder the the rest of the episode it almost knocked me out of my chair.
Zachary Wyman
2024-10-11 15:00:26 +0000 UTCListening to the opening: "RIP to your podcast, but I'm built different." I'm so glad the three of you are holding the fort with KJB! :)
Lydia Scribe
2024-10-11 14:35:47 +0000 UTCI've been waiting for this since they first started teasing it! Today is a good day for slop! Tonight we dine well hogs!
Antichrist Against Fascism
2024-10-11 14:22:24 +0000 UTC
