S4E11.5: The Mission
Added 2025-04-11 14:00:26 +0000 UTCThe year is 1750. The Guarani people in what is now southern brazil are stuck between various factions of Europeans- the Portuguese, who believe they are functionally animals and NEED to be enslaved, the Spanish who broadly agree but have better PR, and the Jesuit missionaries, who believe that they're something approaching human, but only in as much as that means it's an absolute necessity that they be taught about Jesus and not jacking off or whatever.
The Treaty of Madrid has ceded spanish colonial land to portugal- but will the jesuit missions continue to be protected by the pope, or will the portuguese get to kill and enslave the Guarani living in them? It's the latter. Sorry
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Comments
While you're doing Catholic movies, how about Constantine?
Willi Schinmeyer
2025-04-22 21:20:15 +0000 UTCHaving listened to the comments at the end of this episode about the cinematic treatment of indigenous americans, I am now curious to hear KJB’s reaction to Last of the Mohicans (1992).
JD Starflower
2025-04-22 06:05:29 +0000 UTCI'm not sure I would agree that the two films address the same themes.
Chibigodzilla
2025-04-18 23:44:56 +0000 UTCThe Mark David Chapman joke was aaaaaaaaaaaaaces
Patrick Lopez
2025-04-18 21:28:42 +0000 UTCoh interesting! i watched The First Omen and was gonna catch up on Immaculate to do a comparison
weronika mamuna
2025-04-18 21:21:59 +0000 UTCYES
Gareth Dennis
2025-04-18 18:31:22 +0000 UTCokay I love Devon so much for the insert double gag, it ruined me
Gareth Dennis
2025-04-18 18:29:40 +0000 UTChighly recommend a better movie (that is actually gay) about indigenous issues, religious repression of these cultures in latin america, and colonialism (and neocolonialism!) called Sueño en otro idioma (I dream in another language)
meg
2025-04-16 23:03:13 +0000 UTCIntent, impact, enabling application beyond the intent
Keith D. Jones
2025-04-15 21:34:47 +0000 UTCLiam Neeson fact: this movie came out the same year he guest starred on Miami Vice
BarFly
2025-04-15 15:49:09 +0000 UTCWas also going to say this. November has mentintioned In Bruges on the pod before so I have high hopes for this film making an aperance in robbery season. I think the alcoves scene has potential to completely derail the pod for at least 10 minutes.
Evie K
2025-04-15 03:43:40 +0000 UTCMoral of the story: God's blessing and support flows from the barrel of a gun. Kill that cardinal.
-Kris-
2025-04-15 02:12:53 +0000 UTCPope Judas, God's representative on Earth, tasked with tracking down Jesus. Why do you think they put up a big cross at every new church? They've gotta be ready when they catch Him.
-Kris-
2025-04-15 01:01:45 +0000 UTC"Let this cup pass from me." "No, My Son." "Then of the day or hour or place You shall find me, no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor You, Father." *Sound of sandals running over land and water into the distance
-Kris-
2025-04-15 00:56:57 +0000 UTCShowing little pictures of Jesus and going "have you seen this guy?" Brings to mind a fascinating imaginary religion where we believe the Messiah has already come, but is dodging His responsibility to Destiny and all that, so an international manhunt ensues
-Kris-
2025-04-15 00:55:54 +0000 UTCI don't see why they wouldn't just watch The Hobbit from 1977. I know there was that short film version from like a decade earlier but it's like 12 minutes long and Rankin Bass did a good job with their version.
mark bondioli
2025-04-14 20:24:46 +0000 UTCI mean, that would have to be Desolation of Smaug, which is simultaneously the heist bit and the classic approach of this podcast by watching the second one!
Tia Shafee
2025-04-14 20:18:45 +0000 UTCI listened to the bit you're talking about, and no sorry you're taking them wrong . First of all, the host themselves are creatives. They're talking about pirating from owners/capitalists, for work that creatives have already been paid for. There is clearly a line between people who own creative works, and people who make creative works. It's not a matter of brush broadness, they're two different class entities with different class interests.
Andrew Dunn
2025-04-14 13:46:21 +0000 UTCThough I will say that the ending caption pissed me off because the film is like "these people still fight to defend their culture" but the whole film prior was about glorifying the people who were committed to erasing their culture, justifying their humanity by how well they sung christian choir arias and built violins. It's a truly unjustified end note for the film it's appended onto.
Nah
2025-04-14 09:40:59 +0000 UTCThe vibes of Devon’s joke were so strong I didn’t even notice they messed up and got the wrong song.
Jacem
2025-04-14 09:08:38 +0000 UTCMy version had a post credit scene of the cardinal staring straight down the barrel of the lens
Wuppdich
2025-04-14 07:09:20 +0000 UTCThe thing is THE FIRST OMEN is the better movie about the same themes but IMMACULATE is like the rubber monster Tales From The Crypt version which is arguably more fun
John Leavitt
2025-04-13 22:43:08 +0000 UTCRegrettably, the sentiment enables its application with a broader brush
Keith D. Jones
2025-04-13 20:11:26 +0000 UTCSadly, no
Keith D. Jones
2025-04-13 20:10:53 +0000 UTCI thought this was an interesting film to connect with the then-ongoing South American dirty wars and ongoing Reagan era Monroe doctrine shit, if only to provide an angle on the inadequacies the podcast already covered.
Nah
2025-04-13 18:40:45 +0000 UTCThis is actually free on Tubi
DocBones
2025-04-13 13:21:55 +0000 UTCWould 'The Grand Budapest Hotel' count as a heist film? I love that one and would love to hear their take on it.
Ross Nolan
2025-04-13 13:08:48 +0000 UTCI love when Devon goes fujoshi mode
Evelyn Miner
2025-04-13 01:46:20 +0000 UTCIf we're going to continue with 'Religion Season' I would like to request Immaculate (2024)
Chibigodzilla
2025-04-13 00:51:09 +0000 UTC"Incongruous on a Horse", was my band in high school.
Wolfman Jack
2025-04-12 20:09:09 +0000 UTC"We are Catholics. We believe in the teachings of Cathol and everything he stood for..."
Wolfman Jack
2025-04-12 19:59:22 +0000 UTCCan't wait to hear November's take on Conclave! Especially the monologue on doubt delivered in the beginning by Lawrence
neoncity
2025-04-12 19:42:08 +0000 UTCDevon carrying all their podcasting equipment up a hill as penance for fumbling the joke
1st gen exvangelical socialist daddy, my child will have no shame
2025-04-12 19:35:01 +0000 UTCThis is a truly surreal experience for me. I am half Paraguayan and hearing the combined Kill James Bond talking about the Guarani, made my brain buffer. Paraguay is often ignored, or when alluded to for a joke is relegated to shit hole, Nazi Safe Haven or someway shifty (even Charlie and the Chocolate Factory isn't safe from this). The languages spoken in Paraguay are Spanish (Castellano) and Guarani, and often the two are mixed in and out of each other in conversation. In a weird reverse of the Irish/English language dynamic in Ireland (where I'm also from - I still remember Patriot Games), where everything is written in Irish and English but Irish is largely not spoken often - Very little in Paraguay has written Guarani, even though its common part of everyday speech. Thanks for reading!
Pudlord Tynan
2025-04-12 16:46:06 +0000 UTCThe Hobbit was mentioned during this episode. Does that mean we're finally getting it as a robbery season episode?
mark bondioli
2025-04-12 14:49:58 +0000 UTCI thought the response to "may the force be with you" was "& with your force ghost"
Gil the Gilded Dragon
2025-04-12 12:26:04 +0000 UTCI would bet my life that the position of everyone on the podcast is to always pay small creators, and pirate from huge corporations if necessary
Andrew Dunn
2025-04-12 10:40:31 +0000 UTCIt was, yes. I trusted at least one of them would fucking know what a hurdy gurdy is
Its Devon Babeyyy
2025-04-12 09:30:47 +0000 UTCOk I found an article about the changes from 2008, November is right, "and also with you" is now only correct in Star Wars. That's even funnier.
Damien Tonkin
2025-04-12 09:22:09 +0000 UTCJust responding to the question in the opening. Catholic (at least round these parts) say "peace be with you", to which the response is "and also with you". This is now also the cannon response to "may the force be with you" to the relief of nerds rainsed catholic everywhere because it's a hard reflex to repress. I think the "and with your spirit" thing might be protestant but in fairness I haven't been to church since before Benedict was pope and he changed a lot of the words by having everything retranslated from the Latin literally. I remember there was a period when everyone was upset that the English mass didn't make grammatical sense anymore.
Damien Tonkin
2025-04-12 09:19:16 +0000 UTCAbsolutely watching this film when I get a minute. Still not hearing my name mentioned at the end tho... have I done something to offend?
mortran
2025-04-12 07:29:15 +0000 UTCyou mean the one about how piracy is oftentimes the only way to obtain a quality version of the movie because distributors just don't care about it?
weronika mamuna
2025-04-12 06:32:50 +0000 UTCAnybody know if that was a joke about pirating creative works rather than paying for them or if that was serious? As someone who has been told, "Why should I pay for your [creative work] when I can get it for free?", the joking about not paying for creative work on the podcast is depressing. It's come up on more than one episode, and it's actually starting to get to me.
Keith D. Jones
2025-04-12 04:55:50 +0000 UTCmaybe it was the milkshake
PrismShank
2025-04-12 04:02:37 +0000 UTCThe Fitzcarraldo reference reminded me how I YEARN for y'all to do a Werner Herzog film at some point.
Lauren Shear
2025-04-12 02:16:59 +0000 UTCGary, you're a genius.
Lauren Shear
2025-04-12 02:15:14 +0000 UTCI like big milkshakes
SpookyPenguin
2025-04-12 01:02:55 +0000 UTCWet, Cold, Jesuit Summer
Nick Gully
2025-04-12 00:22:20 +0000 UTCI love so much that Abigail also doesn't speak religion, just like me ❤️ Her also not knowing the terminology makes me feel included.
Enver
2025-04-12 00:19:40 +0000 UTCGonna have to drag all your podcasting stuff up a waterfall to redeem that manged joke lol
Douglas Bishop
2025-04-11 23:33:04 +0000 UTCAlso I think maybe he redidcovers his biological family but since five has only known tribal life. It's very bad. Between this and The Mission was one of a set of movies my well meaning liberal mom (who not votes Trump) got into when I was in Highschool and she ended up making me watch for, I dunno, Environmentalist Reasons
AaronMk91
2025-04-11 22:51:03 +0000 UTCIf you are going to do a season based around bad movies about indigenous struggle then I want to recommend The Emerald Forest, a movie about an uncontacted tribe in Brazil that kidnaps the blonde haired blue eyed son of an American engineer there to build a dam or mine or something. The blonde haired blue eyed boy is adopted by the tribe and grows up to be a quirked up blue eyed blonde haired white boy who becomes the chieftain or shaman for the tribe after they fail to stop the White People, and in a magic frog trip manages to summon an epic rainstorm to wash away the dam.
AaronMk91
2025-04-11 22:49:36 +0000 UTCI very much agree. I haven't had a chance to listen to this episode but speaking as a vaguely Catholic believer (technically agnostic but leaning much more towards belief) I've been very impressed by this religion season and how engaging and thoughtful all three hosts have been.
Ross Nolan
2025-04-11 22:44:10 +0000 UTCAbi’s idea ~6:00 of confessing to a priest that you’re murdering him is something that was done in In Bruges, to Ciaran Hinds!
Fred Carson
2025-04-11 21:47:35 +0000 UTCI think the musical instrument Devon was thinking of was a Hurdy Gurdy
Dr. M.R. Geldof
2025-04-11 21:05:31 +0000 UTCI have something to say about this movie. The Mission statement, if you will...
James Rule
2025-04-11 20:02:58 +0000 UTCImperialism: the Heist form of Capitalism
Andrew Dunn
2025-04-11 20:02:40 +0000 UTCDev, Nova and Abi can't see the huge grin on my face as it was announced that they are going to do the Fast Saga.
Doug King
2025-04-11 19:54:59 +0000 UTCAbsoloutely fiending for the "A Serious Man" episode very excited to hear the analysis
TorvusPrime
2025-04-11 19:41:33 +0000 UTCI watched this in class at my Jesuit highschool and it was a weird experience. I'm not sure what we were supposed to get from seeing it but as a burgeoning queer pagan, I didn't get the memo. Also, Conclave lets fucking goooooooooooo.
James Vacca
2025-04-11 18:52:16 +0000 UTCWhile I don’t want Nova to disassociate, I do really want to see you guys talk about Conclave.
Benjamin
2025-04-11 18:48:16 +0000 UTC“All transporters are Jason Statham vehicles, but not all JS vehicles are transporters…“
bobbler42
2025-04-11 18:19:54 +0000 UTCI watched this in 2007 after renting it from an independent dvd rental store. The guy working had it up on the tv. He’s also how I found out about The Duellists
Jermy
2025-04-11 16:50:26 +0000 UTCNgl, I think I’m preferring the bonus feed religion season to the main feed heist season. Please do continue with the religion theme!
James
2025-04-11 16:50:05 +0000 UTCYou wanna talk about sounding incongruous, check out Harvey Keitel in The Duellists (love that movie)
Jermy
2025-04-11 16:48:22 +0000 UTCI watched this movie in High School Spanish class. Shoutout to Ms. Chinian, you did not do a good job teaching Spanish but you had great taste in film.
Ben Schwabe
2025-04-11 16:45:57 +0000 UTCNot this dropping the same day that KJB highlights does Stellan Skarsgard breaking through the lesbian forcefield. She likes her boys haggard, muddy and dehydrated
Maladapted
2025-04-11 16:42:53 +0000 UTC"A cool instrument like an oboe"
Tripp
2025-04-11 16:39:11 +0000 UTCDevon really practicing contrition and repentance this episode in that cutaway, maybe we’re too deep into Catholic season.
Tall Jeff
2025-04-11 16:09:49 +0000 UTCWhen you think about it, colonialism is also heist season.
Gary
2025-04-11 16:00:05 +0000 UTCI have been at the Iguazu falls 14 years ago. It’s both terrifying and beautiful at the same time. Mostly because at least back then, you could just go on a pier above the falls with just a thigh high fence. One of my school mates lost a hat because it was sucked in by the air pressure. One of the places of all time though. 10/10 can recommend!
Anarcho Slowpoke
2025-04-11 14:16:51 +0000 UTC
