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S4E22.5: Under the Skin

Now it's time that we talk about the Jonathan Glazer film with Scarlett Johansson. Check out the film Under the Skin (2013) before listening to this.

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Friend of the show Bella, a refugee evacuated from Afghanistan in 2021, is raising money for her gender confirmation surgery! Anything you can give would be hugely appreciated! https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/team-bella

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Check out friend of the show Mattie's new book Simplicity here, or wherever fine graphic novels are sold!

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FREE PALESTINE

Hey, Devon here. In our home, we talk a lot about how insane everything feels, and agonise constantly over what can be done to best help the Palestinians trapped in Gaza facing the full brunt of genocidal violence. My partner Rebecca has put together a list of four fundraisers you can contribute to- all of them are at work on the ground doing what they can.

-Palestinian Communist Youth Union, which is doing a food and water effort, and is part of the official communist party of Palestine
https://www.gofundme.com/f/to-preserve-whats-left-of-humanity-global-solidarity

-Water is Life, a water distribution project in North Gaza affiliated with an Indigenous American organization and the Freedom Flotilla
https://www.waterislifegaza.org/

-Vegetable Distribution Fund, which secured and delivers fresh veg, affiliated with Freedom Flotilla also
https://www.instagram.com/linking/fundraiser?fundraiser_id=1102739514947848

-Thamra, which distributes herb and veg seedlings, repairs and maintains water infrastructure, and distributes food made with replanted veg patches
https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-thamra-cultivating-resilience-in-gaza

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Kill James Bond is hosted by November Kelly, Abigail Thorn, and Devon. You can find us at https://killjamesbond.com , as well as on our Bluesky and X.com the every app account

S4E22.5: Under the Skin

Comments

I have actually done the Jason Bourne disappearing bit in real life, but the secret was to drop behind a knee-high wall and scurry

-Kris-

This does sound like a really interesting film, though it hits some specific triggers of mine that mean I sadly can't watch it. It was nice to hear you talk about it, and to experience such a powerful film through your conversation! But especially on the re-listen, I feel like there a side to this film or a reading of it that I'm surprised you didn't discuss, or seemingly think of. I don't think this is a film that intends to be transmisogynist, but I feel strongly that that's a reading of it. Her character looks like a woman but under her surface she isn't human, she preys on men and that's deliberately coded sexually, she starts to lose track of what she 'really' is and starts trying to actually live as a human woman (which is established to be impossible), she is confused by her own genitals during intimacy, then during sexual contact a man discovers her true nature and is motivated to kill her out of disgust and horror. On the face of it, that sequence of events could be straight out of a "Silence of the Lambs (with aliens)" story, but you clearly didn't feel that when watching it. Is there something about the experience of watching this film that sidesteps a transmisogynistic narrative or reading? From hearing you talk about it, it feels like the choice of having her be a woman does, perhaps unintentionally, echo our culture's transmisogyny? I think there's probably an interesting conversation there about how attempts to shift narratives around sexual violence and have a woman be a predator of men in this particular way, especially paired with her not being human, might fall into or be constrained within existing tropes and fears rooted in transmisogyny.

MagneticRose

Best movie of the 2010s? I think you're forgetting about a little film called Mad Max: Fury Road.

Ada Bee

just before the hour mark of this podcast i began to understand this film as like. shoot'n'cry the little mermaid

Peter Paul Rubens' Muse

"into the sluice chute, flyboy" was right there

ZaitsevFred

It’s wild that a major part of that movie is Redford’s character unspoken but plot relevant crush on Brad Pitt’s character

John Leavitt

only the Void can reduce a man to a soup-like homogenate

Juice

I've been meaning to pitch it for a while and it just got sadly relevant, so... would you be interested in taking a look at 2001's Spy Game? In a way, it's both a spy movie and a heist one.

Luca

"Wel. Come. ToMy. Black. Void." Sluicer caroline polachek

spectralspook

Recently joined the Patreon, so I'm working through from the beginning in between new episodes - this worked out perfectly, in that after the interesting but emotional hard going of this episode, I reached the Top Secret! episode. Some days are hard-hitting analysis days, some days are for listening to Abigail cry-laughing about gloriously stupid visual gags

Nick Siepmann


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