Caleb Williams Week 2 Full-Game Analysis vs the Texans
Added 2024-09-16 20:25:09 +0000 UTCLock in and buckle up. -JTO
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Yikes…
Ian Taylor
2024-09-24 00:39:34 +0000 UTCI definitely overhyped this perimeter during the offseason. Wasn’t until I watched your preseason breakdowns of us that I realized how bad this was. Really sucks. Spent all this draft capital and money on the perimeter just for it to still not be good enough. Then we don’t spend enough on the O-line and it’s still bad…
Matt G
2024-09-21 20:16:30 +0000 UTClol what about these 2 games make you think Caleb is "miles ahead" of Tyson? they're literally the 2nd worst offense in the league behind Bryce Young. Caleb does literally nothing better than Tyson other than have better arm strength. Tyson is light years ahead of Caleb in the mental aspect of playing QB.
Start Tyson Bagent
2024-09-21 00:04:47 +0000 UTCI love this city 😂
Bob Hannon
2024-09-20 17:01:58 +0000 UTCBreath dawg Caleb is miles ahead of Tyson.
Ian Taylor
2024-09-20 16:00:42 +0000 UTCPeople hate on Getsy, but he was a rookie OC and playcaller and was pretty damn good for a rookie and a 100 times better than retard Waldron.
Start Tyson Bagent
2024-09-20 11:28:19 +0000 UTCI truly believe the Getsy + Bagent play action, control the clock, move the sticks and go on long drives offense would be crushing it right now, especially with this elite defense. Yet we decide to go with whatever the fuck this Waldron + Caleb disaster of a scheme is. This shit is unreal. The Bears are just cursed to never have a good offense. Poles completely shit the bed with the Waldron hiring and its going to set this franchise back years and go down as an even bigger mistake than the Claypool trade. And its like Caleb is just like trying to make himself appear like a great NFL QB with all the audibles etc. but none of the audibles even make any fucking sense. This trash Caleb offense is never going to work. Fire Waldron, bring in any fucking one with a heartbeat that can run a heavy run + play action offense and start the best QB on the team TYSON FUCKING BAGENT.
Start Tyson Bagent
2024-09-20 11:00:49 +0000 UTCIn general don’t you want to highlight your skill players like almost 100% of the calls, and then use your Everett type guys as almost a play action to your skill guys. When you got em on the ropes, now your Everett guy gets a 30yd chunk. Not in early game design though. Seems off
TalkinTurkey
2024-09-19 23:09:28 +0000 UTCPFF and ESPN pass block win rates are known and admittedly flawed for a variety of reasons such as being walked back into the qb still counts as a win if blocker is engaged, I believe this has been acknowledged by the ones who made these metrics themselves. Don’t even wanna dive deeper into that because clearly you have a very strong opinion on their validity. My point was I’m not sure I watched one video where JT labeled their offensive line as average or saw one video breakdown all year from others that the offensive line was not frequently complained about as being problematic. Fields did not do himself any favors and would turn down open throws and hold the ball, that’s not the argument that the other guy nor I had made. You decided to quote “JT and countless others” as stating they believed the offensive line was fine, which I stated is disingenuous as the reality is they frequently laughed and couldn’t figure out wtf the lineman were even doing multiple times a game and always stated the line was a problem. They even had multiple instances where the offensive lineman blocked each other! Fields didn’t get rid of the ball quickly and the offensive line was awful, especially the interior. Two things can be true. If JT reads this and wants to correct me, I’m more than willing to admit I’m wrong, but I am supremely confident JT was not claiming that the bears Oline last year was fine in his videos. Saying “fields problems had nothing to do with the line” is a wild hyperbole, only using statistics and not film and game context is also a flawed way to go about an argument. Also, fields was not a free agent nor would he be extended for the low end contracts minshew and Darnold signed for on top of a lot of other contextual factors, flawed argument there as well
Robert Moauro
2024-09-19 03:24:11 +0000 UTCYou are defending Fields by blaming the line. Youre conflating several issues while presuming you're speaking coherently, which you're not. Pointing out the Bears had the lowest pass attempts doesn't undermine the pass block win rate, that's just something you're saying because you're realizing the stats don't back your narrative. Fields sucked primarily because he didn't throw the ball. His propensity to skip open receivers (because he doesn't throw with any anticipation) also artificially reduces the pass attempts, btw. Now, all that can be said while also saying the line can be improved. However, last year the line pass and run blocked at a league average rate per statistical data. This year is a different issue and more data needs to come on regarding win rates to understand what's going on. But Fields' issue last year had nothing to do with the line. They had to do with him sucking at the position. The league said the same thing by signing people like Minshew and Darnold to contracts before signing Fields to anything. That's why he's basically a backup now with no contract for next year.
Larry
2024-09-18 16:45:36 +0000 UTCHidden fallacy? No statistical evidence? There's barely any stats covering lineman performance and a lot of that comes out subjective. You wanna look at pass block win rate? Sure, that's highly manipulated by the percent of pass plays. Sure the Bears had a top 5 block win rate... but they had the second lowest pass attempts lol. The Dolphins meanwhile, had a league average pass rate and bottom of the league block win rate. Sure didn't stop them from being any good, huh? Just watch the damn Bears games JT covered alone. Practically every single one he goes off on at least one of the linemen having a bad game. You're also acting like we're defending Fields here when that's not that point, which is that the team's issues haven't been resolved to where Williams is now experiencing the same problems Fields was. The lack of a reliable line that can block consistently and an offensive scheme that is borderline high school JV isn't going to magically be fixed by the best QB prospect in the class.
ShyGuy
2024-09-18 16:22:29 +0000 UTCThere's no statistical evidence in your post, just a lot of monologuing. Where. Is. The. Data. I cited ESPN PBWR that had the Bears in the top 10 for PBWR. According to next gen stats and PFF, Fields was bottom three if not two in TTT. That explains the abnormally high sack % for Fields, relative to league average. Then you had JT numerous times this year and last suggesting Fields barely belongs in the league if he doesn't fix his timing and reading issues. Nothing disingenuous about this, I've cited my stuff twice now. It's you who are disingenuous (and lazy).
Larry
2024-09-18 14:16:22 +0000 UTCI watched all the videos last year and I’m not sure I ever heard him saying the Oline was fine last year. One of the worst centers and interior lines in the league last year just like this year, also couldn’t pick up a stunt to save their lives. Fields wasn’t great, but I’m fairly certain JT wasn’t out here saying the Oline was competent enough for success. Think we would have plays every week with “you can’t play QB in the league like this”. Hate fields if you want, he didn’t develop the way we wanted for a variety of reasons internally and externally, but this is a disingenuous take
Robert Moauro
2024-09-18 14:03:57 +0000 UTCCaleb must be better, but holy shit so does everyone else on that offense, it's all a problem. Most of it is correctable, but I don't trust it'll happen.
Brandon Cantu
2024-09-18 11:37:43 +0000 UTCWhen Shane Waldron was in Seattle did you like his playcalling more, or do you think this is how it was always going to look with him coming to Chicago?
Blaine Rowe
2024-09-18 06:03:31 +0000 UTCi didn’t figure you would enjoy the gerald everett bubble screen when i saw it live 😂, the back up tight end getting screens called for him is laughable
JOSH WHITE
2024-09-18 02:02:45 +0000 UTCWait till you get further. Kmet's blocking was atrocious. Still no excuse for why we throw to everett all the time.
Bill Cahoon
2024-09-18 02:01:14 +0000 UTCThis is it. 2nd and 3 and we can't take a shot because we have no confidence that we can run and get yardage on 3rd down if we need to. This film was good to see that Swift made some bad decisions, and at the same time we have no aggression in the run game. I think Herbert might be a good choice to be a thumper and let our line try to impose on some teams. We may be falling into the trap of trying to be a passing team at the cost of having a strong, multiple run game. Let Caleb feel at home with the strong Bears run game tradition first, before we put everything on his shoulders.
sean quincey
2024-09-18 01:51:44 +0000 UTC“Fuck you 14” made me laugh way too hard
Mitchell Jacobs
2024-09-18 01:45:11 +0000 UTCAre we fucked ?
Aj Green
2024-09-18 01:38:04 +0000 UTCThe “Fuck you , bro” at the false start was very cathartic, thank you JTO
Brock Workman
2024-09-17 23:27:40 +0000 UTCThis is really really sad. Another go-around of shitty offense for Chicago. Hopefully it gets better but unless there’s changes to O-line I don’t see it
tmaks2
2024-09-17 19:38:14 +0000 UTChang loose
Adam Sterling
2024-09-17 19:23:25 +0000 UTCUnfortunately if you get a new OC next year you’re in that new cycle of new offense every year stunting qb growth potentially
Steven
2024-09-17 18:57:21 +0000 UTCTwo hours of “the Bears still suck” makes me happy.
Charles M Olmsted
2024-09-17 18:12:38 +0000 UTCJust sloppy in general. It's week 2, a bunch of people here are expecting Tom Brady level of play. He's still figuring out what he can do. Coaching is definitely an issue. The Oline coach may need to be fired this was pretty bad. Now Calebs confidence is going down. He's rushing which is making his footwork bad. His time to theow is apparently 2.55seconds though do he's getting better at quick decisions but then he hesitates as well. We need balance man. That's coaching.
Raf 022
2024-09-17 18:12:17 +0000 UTC2 hours holy shit
Mac
2024-09-17 15:08:46 +0000 UTCThe hidden fallacy in your argument is that the Bears o-line failed Fields. That is fake news. It was a talking point circulated by pro Fields cry babies who refused to accept theirs QB sucks. As JT and countless others said, the line was fine. It was league average. According to ESPN pass block win rate, they were above average in pass blocking. Fields was the slowest QB in the league when it came to time to throw. That's why he was sacked, not because of the line. Your argument is not grounded in any statistical reality.
Larry
2024-09-17 13:42:09 +0000 UTCKeep the great analysis coming JT! Hopefully Caleb can learn from this and come back better.
Joe Brcak
2024-09-17 11:22:34 +0000 UTCAlright so I am only about 25 minutes in, but it was already mentioned so much that I gotta say - Cole Kmet, in EVERY capacity, is a better tight end than Gerald Everett. There is legitimately not a single thing that Everett does better. Kmet has better hands (and i'd argue the strongest hands of ANY tight end in the league, ex: catch in the 4th qtr that you'll watch, only 3 drops in two years) he's quicker despite the bigger frame and a significantly better blocker. Kmet got a 4-year $50 mil extension in July last year, that he absolutely earned and instead of the typical post big contract drop-off, he had career highs in multiple areas last season. Whether it's plain favoritism from his past job, or Kmet f'd his wife, whatever the reason Shane Waldron is so freaking obsessed with trying to feed Gerald Everett it's not based on who is actually the better player. Hell, they even threw the 40-year-old senior citizen Marcedes Lewis on 1st and goal so he could false start instead of having Cole Kmet on the damn field. Being a Bears fan is genuinely a curse
Ryan Woodall
2024-09-17 05:51:14 +0000 UTCThis isn't about Fields being the problem, but realizing that scapegoating Fields isn't going to solve anything when the team still has the same issues as previous years despite clearly upgrading their QB. What's truly sad is how the fanbase buys into a front office knowing what it's doing and blaming shit on a QB while they literally repeat their same issues after replacing said QB.
ShyGuy
2024-09-17 03:33:32 +0000 UTCWe really are not a smart fanbase, but I do think a lot of it is just trauma.
Edward Bills
2024-09-17 02:40:30 +0000 UTCHello darkness my old friend.
Edward Bills
2024-09-17 02:39:23 +0000 UTCGreat effort, JT. Marathon Man!
Terry
2024-09-17 02:00:30 +0000 UTC2 hours 😭
Ryan
2024-09-17 01:40:35 +0000 UTCTen mins in and JT is already hot. Long one.
Justin Apodaca
2024-09-17 01:23:13 +0000 UTCIt's been two weeks, bro. He looks better than Fields. Meanwhile Fields is leading the Steelers to an explosive 15 ppg.
Larry
2024-09-17 01:20:50 +0000 UTCBlaming Fields' failures on him alone is a bit much when the team drafts the hands down best QB in the class yet still has the same issues. The team's front office is so incompetent that it doesn't matter who you put at QB at this point.
ShyGuy
2024-09-17 01:14:50 +0000 UTCI think Caleb will fare no better than JF. Maybe he won’t be as well liked as Justin. Time will tell
dwc
2024-09-17 01:10:16 +0000 UTCCaleb shows more anticipation in one play than Fields did in three years
Larry
2024-09-17 01:00:41 +0000 UTCCaleb Williams has also shown more anticipation in two weeks than Fields did his entire Bears tenure.
Jack Long
2024-09-17 00:48:18 +0000 UTCAnother issue here is the average intelligence of a Chicago fan is quite low. The Fields saga is the most recent example. There's no way that guy belongs in the league as a starter. He's more Olympic level javelin thrower than he is NFL QB. Fans mistake his throwing skills for NFL QB skills. The two are different. JT taught us as much over three years of in depth stuff. Yet you'd think Fields is some transformative Peyton Manning circa 1997 level prospect given the Chicago fan discourse about him. Media and fans literally cried when he was traded. It's embarrassing that a below average failed QB like Fields captured the city's heart this way. Low intelligence city.
Larry
2024-09-17 00:24:49 +0000 UTCThat's on poles. Allen should have been an o line rookie picked in the fourth round (that's what we traded for Allen). Instead we got a 32 year old who sits out four weeks each year due to severe sniffles.
Larry
2024-09-17 00:18:13 +0000 UTCFacts
Bill Miller
2024-09-17 00:11:11 +0000 UTCWaldron is inept. I mean we are playing Gerald Everett and D’Andre Swift over Cole Kmet and whatever other rb you want. Plus we’ll be back to force feeding Keenan Allen when he’s healthy. It’s miserable
Cody Britt
2024-09-17 00:10:02 +0000 UTCRome appears to be dumb. Running the wrong routes and in the preseason not understanding the end zone boundaries. Weren't he and Caleb fast friends after being drafted? Why are they so off? Nabers and harrison aren't doing dumb things like Rome is. Maybe there's a reason he dropped
Larry
2024-09-17 00:09:35 +0000 UTCJf1 sucks ass.
Larry
2024-09-17 00:07:16 +0000 UTCO-line is bad, Caleb’s not there yet…but I don’t think the bears weapons are very good like they were advertised. Better than before, sure, but look around the league they still haven’t caught up with the good teams. Jets, Cowboys, Vikings, Dolphins, Lions, Falcons, Bucs, Niners, Ravens, Colts, Texans, Bengals, Eagles, Seahawks, Chiefs all have at least one legitimate weapon that’s a game changer to go to in crunch time, or at the very least be a huge headache for opposing teams. Guarantee you a lot of those teams are in the hunt at the end of the year. Bears have good players on paper but nobody that truly scares you as an opposing defense. Hope Rome can become that someday 🤷♂️
Bill Miller
2024-09-17 00:04:26 +0000 UTCThe poor run game was what I was reacting to the most. It's absolutely demoralizing to have these run plays that lose yards so consistently. Imagine being Caleb, making a good play, and then ending up losing yards or breaking even on a run; that puts even more pressure on him and makes the rush even more dangerous.
Revan777
2024-09-16 23:33:53 +0000 UTCJT dropping a 2 hour dime here, this was a tough ass watch
Dejan Karic
2024-09-16 23:31:12 +0000 UTCHad to resub for this, back to misery
Luca Gonzalez
2024-09-16 23:09:00 +0000 UTCSo far it seems like Justin’s deep ball accuracy is better, which isn’t great!
Jack Belcaster
2024-09-16 23:07:25 +0000 UTCCaleb’s quick game is much better and I don’t think there’s as many examples of Caleb turning down open reads. But you’re right, there are some of the same issues
Jack Belcaster
2024-09-16 23:06:32 +0000 UTCI'm not sure how noticeable that really is because if you look at both of them there's a lot of the same issues. If it's not a play blown up because of the O-line it's the QB not making a throw that's there. The only noticeable difference I've seen is Williams making adjustments at the line, but that doesn't seem to be helping to the point of being worth it.
ShyGuy
2024-09-16 23:04:25 +0000 UTCJF1’s footwork and eyes were also a mess. I think it’s pretty clear that Caleb has a better grasp on what’s going on than Justin did, especially considering it’s only his second start. For the record, I was a “build around Justin” guy, so I’m not a JF1 hater. But I do think there’s a difference that’s already noticeable
Jack Belcaster
2024-09-16 22:58:09 +0000 UTCThe design of this offense SUCKS. Caleb’s margin for error is incredibly small, so it’s a catastrophe every time he does make a mistake. The run scheme sucks, the run blocking sucks, and the running back (swift) can’t make the right read even when it does work out. The pass scheme sucks, the pass pro sucks, and when it somehow works out, the ball goes to Everett which is like a loss of downs. I thought Shane Waldron’s floor would be Luke Getsy’s ceiling, but my god, Shane Waldron has been a DISASTER so far. Caleb made mistakes in this game, but what is he supposed to do? It’s frustrating because I think he really was drafted into one of the best situations for a #1 overall pick, and it’s as if Waldron is single-handedly turning it into your stereotypical #1 pick situation.
Jack Belcaster
2024-09-16 22:34:36 +0000 UTCYou’re a sicko JT. We love you though
Joshua evans
2024-09-16 22:11:07 +0000 UTCPlease come be the OC for the Bears
Quincy Butler
2024-09-16 21:29:35 +0000 UTCFeel like JF got the "this line is bad but you gotta play better" whereas CW gets the "nobody could be good with this line"..... I'll be watching the Steelers baby. Love you JT. :D
Kevin O'Connell
2024-09-16 21:08:32 +0000 UTC2 hour vid less than 24 hours after the game on a Bears QB, we're so back
Najee Adams
2024-09-16 21:00:32 +0000 UTCCan hear EJ pouring up from across the country already
Slade Richards
2024-09-16 20:36:56 +0000 UTCJust re-subbed to see this disaster
Doug Thornton
2024-09-16 20:31:50 +0000 UTCJT UR THE GOAT
Joaquin Martinez
2024-09-16 20:25:44 +0000 UTCLETS GO
Joaquin Martinez
2024-09-16 20:25:27 +0000 UTC
