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Reading Settlers 8 - This is the end, my Settler friend

Sean and Andy finish reading Settlers, Chapters 13 and 14

BLA's Message to the Black Movement: https://archive.lib.msu.edu/DMC/AmRad/messageblackmovement.pdf

Clips from Finally Got the News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5jMrfoH6qU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq_AS70pgq4

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Reading Settlers 8 - This is the end, my Settler friend

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No worries. Still planning on it, or naw?

ian morgan

not yet... sorry

The Antifada

Thanks for doing this series. Y'all mentioned a follow up episode with some guests to further discuss Settlers. Did this ever happen? i didn't see anything in your Patreon episode list, but perhaps i missed it?

ian morgan

I live in WV. I’ll tell you what I heard more times than not: “I would vote for Bernie, but they’ll never let him win. So, I’m voting for Trump”

Adam

it may be as simple as older people being slow to absorb and adapt to new information. what older generations of jews was told about israel was largely false. younger people have been able to learn the history of the nakba and the rightward shift since the intifadas through new media sources that the olds either do not access or ignore, because of the emotional commitment to defending israel so common in previous eras

The Antifada

Andy can you elaborate on why you think we American Jews have diverged with Israel and why Israelis don't understand it? I had a pretty similar relationship to Israel as you. I always was pro palestinian (made life hard for me in high school, especially after 9/11), but I used to think there was a salvageable socialist current in zionism and over the past 10 years have given up on zionism all together. Ironically, that coincided with the rise of antisemitism in the US and also a somewhat renewed interest in Judaism on my part. I'm still basically an atheist, but I have been going to shul occasionally and I decided to read the Tanakh and like to discuss it with my rabbi. Anyway, I would love to hear more of your thoughts on this issue. It's very personal to me, especially because I have family in Israel, and I am still trying to make sense of the fact that so much of my family and the community in which I grew up have gone completely insane.

Matt

Gotta start off thanking you guys for reading this book and going over it in the show. Heard about it for awhile but never got to it. While I can understand where Sakai was coming from discussing racism in the labor movement (most of my working life has been union work, industrial, trade and service) I saw it first hand. I also saw very heartfelt acts of solidarity. Being a bookworm I also read a book titled "Mean Things Happening In This Land" by H.L. Mitchell. It is his story from when he helped found the Southern Tenant Farmers Union STFU, a multiracial union of Sharecroppers in the Arkansas Delta. It was started during the height of the depression and while it was ultimately crushed it showed to me at least a better future. No doubt racism is still a factor of life in this country but this example and others shows me how class can and should be used to ease the problems of us all.

Michael Wadman


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