Diving Into the Wreckage: Nationalism, Liberalism and the State 4 w/ C Derick Varn
Added 2024-03-13 15:50:02 +0000 UTCSean and Varn return with part four of their series on nationalism and the nation state. This episode is about the vexing questions of class and nation that arose in the 20th century and are unresolved today. Why did both the reformist and revolutionary wings of the classical workers movement turn towards state developmentalism? How did really existing class develop to conflict with Marxist theories of working class emancipation? What mistakes from past movements are we still making today whether we know it or not? How did the millennial left really die and how might we move past it?
Episode on Henryk Grossman with Ted Reese: https://www.patreon.com/posts/67780560
Endnotes - A History of Separation: https://libcom.org/article/history-separation-endnotes-4
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we did an episode with bevins in december. check it out!
The Antifada
2024-04-16 16:37:20 +0000 UTCOkay unless I'm missing something Bevins doesn't refer to the Muslim Brotherhood as horizontalist. In fact, he points to their organizational structure as foundational to their success. I'm actually a bit surprised at the reaction to (presumably) 'If We Burn.' My reading was not nearly so black & white on the hierarchy vs. horizontalist debate as your reading of it. I'd be curious to hear more what your takeaways were, because I actually thought about it when you were talking about being tired of the endless b&w dichotomies that stifle productive discussions.
Samwise
2024-03-25 08:49:20 +0000 UTCFantastic episode
Nik
2024-03-24 23:57:21 +0000 UTCPhil is seriously one of my favourite contemporary communist thinkers, look forward to everything he ends up putting out.
My fake name
2024-03-18 22:42:52 +0000 UTCOh yeah absolutely I've read the dissertation multiple times in the past few years, even went to the trouble of using a self-printing service to print myself a physical copy so I could read it without having to use my phone. It's a very good and very amazing piece of work. Just thought it also important to include this article from last year as it touches more directly and specifically on the premature de-industrialization issue and also you had included in your video's description. By the way, looking forward to that video, really can't wait for it to be up. Is it gonna go out early at all for patrons over on your Patreon? I am subbed over there too.
My fake name
2024-03-18 22:41:31 +0000 UTCThere's a TON in that dissertation. There is also a ton in those interviews I liked for my discussion. I was actually floored by what I learned from Phil.
Derick Varn
2024-03-18 19:29:35 +0000 UTCBig ending on this one
Soy Jim
2024-03-16 01:18:58 +0000 UTCI wasnt sure if your business agent was referring to just your local but out west here theres still a decent amount of commercial non PLA construction that is union. Though the general trend of basically just being the construction labor force for public projects is kinda true because of prevailing wage, and a but like UAW where in certain industries like petrochemical in CA, are covered by certain legislation that requires workers to have gone through apprenticeships to work on refineries even though they are private; similar to how protectionism keeps the US auto industry and the UAWs (at least main) base, not counting grad students or whatever.
Subscriber 1
2024-03-15 03:00:54 +0000 UTC🌞🌞🌞 the rare wrap up that leaves me with a beaming smile
MoldyTolge
2024-03-14 05:47:15 +0000 UTCI mean, isn’t getting over binaries like the most dialectical thing you can do?
Adam
2024-03-14 05:01:19 +0000 UTCIt's also very much worth a read.
My fake name
2024-03-14 02:22:25 +0000 UTCNeel doesn't just talk about "premature de-industrialization" in his dissertation. Varn in the description of his video for a month from now also includes an article by Neel called "Broken Circle: Premature Deindustrialization, Chinese Capital Exports, and the Stumbling Development of New Territorial Industrial Complexes", he put it out a year ago today actually, https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-labor-and-working-class-history/article/broken-circle-premature-deindustrialization-chinese-capital-exports-and-the-stumbling-development-of-new-territorial-industrial-complexes/334CA5CBD40587B4C770C55AA18F8D63
My fake name
2024-03-14 02:21:00 +0000 UTCPatron of both shows. Thank you, guys. Love the historical content.
Randall Patton
2024-03-13 19:03:37 +0000 UTC
