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Added 2024-02-06 05:11:51 +0000 UTCName a movie that didn't age well for you, and why.
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I can't think of anything as for now. Let me take a rain check on that.
Oskitello
2024-02-13 17:04:30 +0000 UTCI’ll tell you one thing for SURE — I don’t know ANYthing. Lol. Kill Bill Vol. 1 & 2 are great. That’s for sure.
Dean Imperial
2024-02-07 17:55:42 +0000 UTCDamn... tough one. Pulp Fiction was the one... but looking back to when Kill Bill came out I was super impressed and me being into anime and Japanese culture, it really hit the spot for me at the time... but yeah, I would have to say Pulp Fiction is his most important film... but what do I know 😜 🤷🏻♂️
Sutil
2024-02-07 17:52:31 +0000 UTCYou know what else didn’t age well for me? “Moonstruck.” Ooff. Don’t know why, I just couldn’t get with like when I’d watch it on HBO in my 20’s. It felt awfully corny.
Dean Imperial
2024-02-07 13:50:51 +0000 UTCI’m still a “Jackie Brown” guy when it comes to QT. If you had to ask me for THE ONE.
Dean Imperial
2024-02-07 13:48:24 +0000 UTCGot you — and, yes — ‘pulp fiction’ is absolutely meant to be cartoony. I’m going to watch it, again, in the next week or two. I mean, I still think it’s terrific.
Dean Imperial
2024-02-07 13:47:41 +0000 UTCPulp fiction didn't age well for me for a while too... but it's back in style! Also,... I think Pulp Fiction like literal pulp fiction not the film is meant to be cartoonie
Sutil
2024-02-07 07:02:37 +0000 UTCThe Butterfly Effect. As a fan of time travel movies with Back to the Future being my favorite of all time, it was only natural that I'd like TBE. And I did back in 2004, but even though I still like the concept the movie is built around, I find a lot of the dialogue and the way it's delivered really cringeworthy. And the ending especially so, although the director's cut is better in my opinion.
Xero
2024-02-06 20:59:09 +0000 UTCI hate to say it, but “Pulp Fiction.” As a kid I saw in in the theaters 11 times when it came out. Now it feels so overwritten and cartoony. Don’t get me wrong, there are still incredible things in it. It’s still deserves its place in the history of Cinema. However, Jules, reciting Ezekiel before pumping Brad with bullets, just feels a little too pointless and overly theatrical. I still have a lot of affection for the film. But it definitely hasn’t aged well for me.
Dean Imperial
2024-02-06 15:28:20 +0000 UTCWhen I was a kid, I really enjoyed August Rush.I rewatched it a few years ago and I remember thinking that this is really schmaltzy. I don’t hate the movie, but it’s overly sentimental.
Ken
2024-02-06 12:39:53 +0000 UTCSteven Spielberg's The Color Purple. Like critics and audiences at its release, I adored the film when I saw it for the first time in college. Then I saw it again a few years ago and it had way more issues than I first realized. I know you're not a fan of Schindler's List but it was R rated and was willing to get uncomfortable and hard to watch at times and appropriately so. TCP despite also having painful subject matter was PG-13 which held it back from truly showing the grit and unpleasantness of Celie's story and sugarcoated it with too much sentimentality. Spielberg wasn't mature enough of a filmmaker yet to tackle such heavy subject matter which is why Schindler's List is much more bold and courageous. TCP walked so that film could run.
Wolfman Brandon
2024-02-06 12:16:54 +0000 UTCI'm not usually one to adhere to presentism when it comes to films or other works of artistic expression. Instead, I prefer to think of the work as a reflection of the time and culture in which it was created. Even if it seems to not have aged well, I prefer instead to think that I am the one who aged and changed my perspective instead of the work itself. However, your question made me think of a personal story that I recently remembered, and I thought it could be an interesting tangent for discussion. A few years ago, a younger teammate at work who was in his mid-twenties at the time mentioned that he had never watched The Matrix. I recall being somewhat surprised when he previously also said that he was unfamiliar with the Back To The Future franchise. The Matrix seemed like a stretch, especially given our line of work being software engineering. After a few of us insisted that he watch it, he eventually streamed it and came back to us with a rather unimpressed impression of the film. This reaction would be perfectly reasonable in any other case since we don't have to all like the same thing. However, what was surprising was that as a self-proclaimed sci-fi enthusiast, he found the plot of The Matrix somewhat dull and unimaginative. This led me to the conclusion of two possibilities: the first being that the prospect of the simulation theory might not be appealing to everyone, even to those who make a living by writing computer code that could be applicable to some of the concepts explored in The Matrix. Or that maybe the philosophical angle of a world dominated by technology, in which humans are merely useful as a source of energy, might not be as groundbreaking as it was before the age of the smartphone, omnipresence of the internet, and massive collection of personal data as a way to fund massive corporations. Ultimately, my reaction was to accept that the latter may well be the case, and The Matrix could seem uninspiring to a younger generation. I wouldn't go as far as to say that The Matrix did not age well, but it certainly seems like it might not have kept up with the times so well.
Jerome Faria
2024-02-06 11:07:54 +0000 UTCAvatar aged like a carton of spoiled milk, to me. It was DOA when I saw it in theaters. I was completely unimpressed. I felt the same way about Cameron’s previous film. The stories for both were unoriginal and the screenplays were sophomoric at best. And yet they both received high praise from critics and audiences saw them to the tune of billions of dollars collectively. I’ll never understand why. But that isn’t a good example, in my opinion, of a movie not aging well. It sucked to begin with. Films like The Blair Witch Project endeavored to try something original and had a killer marketing campaign using the World Wide Web, which was still in its relative infancy at the time. They weren’t the first to do a found footage film (Shirley Clarke’s 1961 film The Connection was the first), but it was the first to really bring the found footage style into the lexicon. Was it scary? Not particularly. But it was hella atmospheric. And having unknown actors (again, due to budget constraints) was a stroke of genius too. And the actors using their real names added to the mysticism of the film. It made people think they were watching a real documentary. Of course, as all films eventually do, once the hype died down, it was ripe for parody. Some parody was good. Some was awful. But again, for me, that phrase “did not age well” will most often be used when describing a movie’s content, not the production or story as a whole. And for that, just like with monuments being removed around the United States, it’s like saying that this film is offensive because of history and therefore should be history. As in forgotten. Removed. Destroyed. And that’s what really hasn’t aged well.
TenzingNorgay82
2024-02-06 06:52:27 +0000 UTCI would also say that, that film hasn't aged well for me... but for different reasons... when I first saw it I was blown away by the cinematography and the long choreographed takes... but when I look at it now... it's not that interesting to me. Now I know the trademark look of cinematographer Emmanuel "El Chivo" Lubezki so when I think about it I mostly liked this film because of it's cinematography... put that cinematography on any film and it's hard for me to not like... ironically it's the reason why it didn't age well for me because this masterful "look" is almost distracting to me lol...
Sutil
2024-02-06 06:37:30 +0000 UTCChildren of Men — I watched it recently for the first time since I saw in the theater its opening weekend in 2006. I struggled with it this time. I think it’s a well made film, but watching it as an older American millennial having now directly or indirectly experienced a pandemic, environmental catastrophes, economic disruptions, wars, and political turmoil over immigration and other issues — the story didn’t quite resonate for me in the same way with burden of everything that has happened since it came out. However, that’s probably less a flaw of the film and more just the consequence of the film having fairly accurately presaged many aspects of the last two decades.
Ryan Holliway
2024-02-06 06:25:38 +0000 UTCYeah... and I agree that now a days people talk about a movie not aging well because it used actors with black face or things like that... like saying "the birth of a nation" did not age well can fall into that category but in terms of it's filmmaking merit it's a classic... But like I said, it's not exclusive to that... nor exclusive to CGI... I totally agree that a million films have bad special effects (most sfi fi films from the 90's and under) and they are still great or has even added charm... that means it aged well... it cannot age well in our opinions for many reasons... it's all I'm saying... another example for me would be "the blair witch project" although it still can be effective for people that have never seen it... to me it has completely lost it's charm...
Sutil
2024-02-06 06:18:46 +0000 UTC"Timecode" 2000. We studied this film when I was in film school... because of it's innovative editing and shooting techniques... and at the time it was cool to watch... but it didn't age well imo because it was just a gimmick... a gimmick that worked at the time because it was incredibly hard to pull off that whole "one continuous shot" thing with split screens and interconnecting characters... so it felt and it was good filmmaking on that sense... but not so much in story and acting
Sutil
2024-02-06 06:09:53 +0000 UTCI guess it’s a matter of perspective. There are films that have crappy effects. Perfect example being The Mummy Returns horrid Scorpion King effects that was explained because The Rock wasn’t available that day for motion capture so the visual effects artists basically created from memory. OY!!! Shoulda put some extra money in the budget to bring The Rock in for the motion capture. People ripped the effects for that film when it came out. I can’t really think of examples where a movie’s obvious cheap production values would cause someone to say “that movie didn’t age well.” If anything, those instances add to the charm of the movie. The Scorpion King debacle is not one of those examples. Universal could have spent some extra dough on the effects. But to be honest, you don’t really hear about a film not aging well because of its effects. You hear it didn’t age well because it offended people. Yeah, there are those with examples like you gave with Avatar. The script was woefully unoriginal. I call it Dances with Smurfs. The acting was Razzie-worthy from all involved. The visual effects might as well have been for a video game. Same goes for the sequel. It’s all style and no substance for Cameron these days.
TenzingNorgay82
2024-02-06 05:53:34 +0000 UTCI don't think that's what "It didn't age well means" ... a film may not age well if the cgi looked amazing at the time and now looks just silly for example... or many other things that have absolutely nothing to do with the politics of a movie or it's racism or whatever it might be... I know people use the phrase "well that didn't age well" when it comes to a comment someone made that was maybe seen as more appropriate at the time and now it's offensive to some... but it is not exclusive to that... a movie I think didn't age well for example is "avatar" by james cameron... but not because of it's "message" I thought the world looked amazing and was blown away by it that didn't pay attention to much else besides the visuals... when I watch it now I cringe... well, I don't watch it now actually.. but you know what I mean... so that's cool that you don't buy into that mentality but it's just a way of saying a film that was seen as good or great at the time now it's totally forgettable... sometimes the opposite is the case... when a film comes out and people trash it until it becomes a cult classic because it DID age well... although I do admit the term has been hijacked by the "woke" mob into films that today's audiences don't get or find funny and now are creepy to them... but I don't think that's what DFL means here...
Sutil
2024-02-06 05:42:20 +0000 UTCI don’t buy into the “that movie didn’t age well” mentality. That’s usually an indication that there’s something offensive to some demographic of people in the movie that woke culture doesn’t approve of. My feeling is if you don’t like it, don’t watch it. No one is forcing you to watch it. But spending time ripping into it because it’s not how people act or think in today’s culture just seems like an incredible waste of time.
TenzingNorgay82
2024-02-06 05:19:45 +0000 UTC
