Firefly | Episode 14: Objects in Space | Full Reaction
Added 2025-02-06 18:00:10 +0000 UTC
I still can't believe this is the final episode of Firefly. It's hard to put into words how much I've loved my time in this 'verse- aboard Serenity, with the mismatched, found-family crew.
First, let's talk about the villain... I can't sugar coat it; I despised him. His unsettling calmness, the way he toyed with everyone like they were pieces on a board, his disturbing conversation with Kaylee- It was all so infuriating. I hated how he manipulated the crew, how he invaded their space, and how powerless he made everyone feel. He was an effective villain, sure, but I had a lot of issues with him and the added creep factor felt totally unnecessary.
But he underestimated one thing- River. Even though this episode was beyond unsettling at times, it was also beautiful because we got to see River in a way we have never seen her before! For so long, she has been the outsider of the crew. The broken one. The liability. But here, she finally found her voice. Her place. Watching her turn the tables on Early and using his own evil tactics against him was nothing short of incredible. And as she is floating down to Mal, I couldn't help but smile because she finally found her place amongst the crew.
This episode was all over the place. There's so much more story to tell, so much more I want to see. This crew, this 'verse... hell, I'll even settle on another run in with the reavers if it means we get to watch the crew escape their clutches again. And yet, even with the heartbreak of it ending, I wouldn't trade this experience for anything. Firefly has been an unforgettable ride, full of adventure, heart, and some of the best character dynamics I've ever seen!
At least we still have Serenity to look forward to! I'm very ready to ride one last time with this crew, even if I know it'll still hurt. See you all there and thank you for enjoying this journey with me!
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Relax and keep flying 🍿🌿
Link: https://youtu.be/sVRNyqLUwUs
I watched this on Disney Plus
Yes, I agree!! I feel like we finally got an awesome episode displaying River's true intelligence. Very cool for sure!
Kali Wali
2025-04-05 16:41:01 +0000 UTC
One thing I liked about this episode is that it spends so much time establishing Early as a horrible threat to everyone on board, only to show that he is ridiculously out of his depth when taking on River. She had him beaten from before he even got on board. That will never not be cool to me.
Michael Jones
2025-04-05 02:56:02 +0000 UTC
I definitely see your points. I disliked Early as a villain, but I completely agree that the horror of that scene served a purpose narratively. It made Simon's decision to go with him that much more powerful, but it was still an awful moment to sit through that I just couldn't stomach the thought of.
I love the story about Sean Maher at the comic-con panel!! So cool! If I had to pick an answer for the hammer question.. I'd probably pick Simon, too. He may not be perfect, but he has that pure drive to protect others and it makes him such a selfless character.
Thank you for the heads up about Serenity. I'm nervous but excited to jump into it next since I have gotten a few tissue warnings.
Thank you for hanging out here during this journey! It's been such a joy experiencing this series and talking about all of the lore and thoughts with fellow fans!
Kali Wali
2025-02-09 23:10:31 +0000 UTC
Sorry you did not like this episode. Many YouTube reactors also struggle with the Early and Kaylee initial scene. It is such awful situation we live in a world where the thought of sexual violence is so hurtful and possibly visceral to so many.
Narratively the horror of the scene did serve a purpose. The episode largely featured Simon and Early searching the ship together. The audience knows by now that Simon would never betray his sister. So there needed to be a logical reason for Simon to be with Early. Simon protecting Kaylee supplied that reason.
While watching on YouTube some Firefly panel at a past comic-con, an audience member asked a fascinating question. They asked which member of the crew was worthy to lift Thor’s hammer. Sean Maher who played Simon said confidently that Simon was worthy. Whether it was his sister. Kaylee or some random post-op hospital patient, Simon was always looking out for other people.
Thank you again for letting us view this wonderful series through your remarkably expressive eyes. Please note that the Serenity movie is more intense than an average episode of the series. As the River Tam sessions were produced as promotional material for the movie, they can be watched first.
Beyond the ‘Verse, Buffy is a great watch and I think you would enjoy it. It will also bring out “the feels” in many ways. Some happy, some not so much… but I think the show will surprise you if you choose to watch it.
Eric H
2025-02-09 12:58:41 +0000 UTC
I think there is some background in this episode going into Serenity
Matt Fong
2025-02-09 06:06:27 +0000 UTC
There is a time before firefly/serenity, then there is the time after
Matt Fong
2025-02-09 06:02:59 +0000 UTC
Totally agree that scene is just such a chilling moment, but also the acting was phenomenally done. You're right about the cord vs unzipping his pants. You can tell how mortified I was of what was happening because I completely just got blinded by it and saw what I wanted to see..
I do agree that Richard Brooks plays the part soooo extremely well. His calculated and creepy evil hit all the terrifying spots in my mind. He was a different kind of villain. One that lacks emotional intensity and that makes him even worse.
Kali Wali
2025-02-08 23:06:37 +0000 UTC
Yes, definitely realized this! I think I was so mortified my brain saw something else.. Which is why I just don't like when rape is put into movies/shows. I start to freak out haha... But yeah, on a rewatch I realize what is actually going on there! Definitely a huge misunderstanding on my part.
Kali Wali
2025-02-08 23:02:19 +0000 UTC
...in "Out Of Gas" Simon and Inara were alone talking, Simon said "I don't want to die on this ship" and Inara looked off and said "...I don't want to die at all...", which was also a reference to her situation.
Lazerx1
2025-02-08 21:02:32 +0000 UTC
also, kaylee wasn't raped, he was just a shit talker and wanted to scare everyone he dealt with....secondly, the last episode is Serenity and i can't wait to watch it
Cregg Riley
2025-02-08 01:48:22 +0000 UTC
Lol yess I can't wait for Serenity!
Kali Wali
2025-02-08 00:23:22 +0000 UTC
soooo...you're gonna watch Serenity too right? lol never mind i heard you mention it the previous episode intro...i'm just now getting to them after work
Cregg Riley
2025-02-07 23:58:31 +0000 UTC
It's definitely a difficult scene to watch, but I don't think he's unzipping there. He's unspooling the cord he's about to use to tie her up.
From a technical perspective, both actors really commit to the scene, which is one of the reasons it hits so hard. Jewel's emotional performance is outstanding, and Richard Brooks as Early brings a "casual evil" in full force. Mr. Brooks is a powerful actor, well known as one of the stars on the original Law and Order all through the 90s and then some. The role of Early came while he was still on Law and Order, where his character was usually fighting the good fight against difficult odds. I would imagine the opportunity to play a villain was too good to pass up.
As you noted, Early's ultra-violent threats combined with his subdued calm really is disturbing. It's not something humans are typically used to, and it really speaks to Early's mental state. He's absolutely a psychopath. Mr. Brooks does an outstanding job performance-wise, and I think it was an intentional choice to steer away from typical the movie version of a psychopath and toward something more unsettling.
Tim C
2025-02-07 23:44:28 +0000 UTC
I understand your hate for this episode. I shared it for a very long time. Every series swings and misses at least once, given enough time. Whedon shows are no exception. But it stings extra painfully when it's the final episode. And I'll understand if you never grow to appreciate it as I have. We all have our own tolerances.
I don't know if it helps your tolerance at all knowing now that you missed the part where Early was only threatening Kaylee with that violation and that he didn't actually do it, but maybe at least take comfort in thinking about his end this way. Sure it seemed anticlimatic at first blush to simply be pushed off the ship. But he's going to end up just floating though space for an agonizing amount of time left only with his tormented thoughts, completely helpless, the way he made Kaylee feel, until he breathes his last. And that's a fate, to me, far more satisfying than any epic fight he could have had with any of the crew.
Aaron Chandler
2025-02-07 10:45:30 +0000 UTC
I dunno if you realized it after, but if you do a rewatch, you can see him pulling a wire ziptie between his hands that he uses to tie up Kaylee (thus the unzipping sound as it unwinds).
Justin
2025-02-07 07:56:14 +0000 UTC
Yeah, it's a cheap way to get instant revulsion. I know it's "of its time" and all that, as well, but it was cheap back then too.
That scene could have been JUST as creepy, with the power dynamic and Kaylee's helplessness made clear, without just openly talking about and threatening rape.
Chris Truex
2025-02-07 07:23:03 +0000 UTC
Yeah, unfortunately for me that is my line. I believe you can make AWESOME villains without diving that deep into the human psyche to the point of them envisioning violating someone else. It's something I've always been super bleh about with media. Unfortunately, that side of me took the stage in this episode
BUT I will say I love that this episode was all about River! How she is officially a part of the crew, and how her spot on the Serenity is just as valid as anyone else's even if she is a liability.
I can't wait for Serenity!!
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:55:26 +0000 UTC
He 100% accomplished that! Which is definitely the point.
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:51:03 +0000 UTC
I wish I hadn't misinterpreted so hard in that moment haha, but I can't see past a show/movie just throwing rape out there to scare/haunt the viewer. It's just something I dislike a lot in media. It always haunts me to the core and hits feelings I wish I didn't feel.
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:50:34 +0000 UTC
This was TOTALLY River's episode, and it was so satisfying to finally tap into her mind and see what she sees! Looking back on all the other episodes now, I just wonder what she hears during those quiet moments in between dialogue. I totally thought she liquified also hahaha. She was now the ship in my mind for a long time. Pretty much until they showed her in his ship 🤣😭 I just blindly accepted it because "we didn't know she could do that, but she could" lol
Early was terrible. The scene with Kaylee kinda ruined this episode for me, as you can tell. I personally just can't when it comes to rape in a show or movie. I get so tuned out by it and it just hits me like a knife. But River putting him in his place was soooo satisfying! I'd love to believe some Reavers found him, but that's just poetic justice haha
The music in this one was sooo funky and different! The soundtrack has always been consistently great, but this episode really had that vibe. So many haunting overtones for Early versus the soft, beautiful piano of Simon and River.
And thank YOU for being on this journey with me! I know this was your first watch of this show as well and I'm just so happy we both loved it! Firefly may be short-lived, but the love for it always keeps going strong. This community has been awesome, and I can't wait to watch Serenity next!
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:49:26 +0000 UTC
It's a super personal preference that I just dismiss when rape is talked about in shows. It hits a true nerve with me for some reason and I can't see past it.. I'm sorry that it had to be in this final episode and took up so much of my emotional capacity :( I wish it hadn't, but I loved Kaylee so much throughout this entire show and that's probably why the nerve was struck so much harder here.
I'm not saying I hated the episode entirely, though. I loved River's beautiful showcase here and choose to just focus on that! :)
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:44:09 +0000 UTC
Firefly definitely balances danger with that playful, high-energy charm, but the Kaylee scene really felt truly unnecessary and downright disturbing. I'm sure you can tell, but it just hit a nerve with me and anything that has to bring rape into the picture to draw emotions on people doesn't have room in my book. It's just a really personal preference. But, it also somehow didn't feel in line with the rest of the show's approach to tension and danger at all.
But I also agree so much that River's cunning was definitely the highlight here! Seeing her take control of the situation in a playful but calculated way was so awesome to see and added so much more to her character!! It's moments like that that make me wish we got more out of this seaons. There is so much more potential to explore!
Thank you for the heads up about the cast panels! I'll be ehcking those out after Serenity for sure! Especially if I get to hear the story behind Jayne's hat hahaha
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:42:18 +0000 UTC
This is such a beautifully written share. I love how you took a moment of impatience and turned it into a metaphor for how we often focus so much on what's slipping away that we forget to appreciate what we do have now. And honestly, that is definitely one of the biggest lessons Firefly has given their fans. Sometimes things don't last as long as we would have liked, but that doesn't make them any less meaningful.
I really love the way you reframed this episode. It make me look at it in a different light, that's for sure.. I still hate it lol. But I love your reasoning behind why it's your favorite. And I absolutely get what you mean about closure being overrated. Sometimes, the best stories are the ones that leave room for us to dream. The fact that Firefly continues to live on so vividly in the minds and hearts of its fans says so much about the actual impact it had.
I really, really appreciate your perspective and the way you shared it. I think it'll be about time for me to rewatch through that same lens.
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:39:30 +0000 UTC
That scene was pretty shocking, and I see what you mean about the distinction now looking back. Early used a threat to control Kaylee, but didn't actually follow through. The unzipping of the pants and then the next time we see Kaylee she has her pants unzipped I was really worried.... And I really leaned into it here thinking they just didn't tell the viewer what happened. I don't like when rape is used as a threat in any form of media.. I'd just rather it now pull on that heart string. It's a really personal thing.. And it definitely hit a nerve for me, unfortunately.
Early is a truly strange and unsettling character, which makes sense given that he is meant to be a recurring antagonist. Part of what makes him so eerie is how calm and philosophical he is while doing terrible things. It's a contrast to someone like Niska, who is just overly sadistic.
This episode ended on a really strange note.. But at least we have Serenity to look forward to and give us some closure! I still wish this season could have fully ended, though 😭
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:35:39 +0000 UTC
Yes! Mal's whole approach to fights and heists is pure guerrilla warfare. Always thinking ahead. Using misdirection. Never engaging in a straight up fight unless absolutely necessary. It makes a lot of sense given his background and it's a very consistent threat throughout the entire series!
I looove the parallel with River here. She really did take a page out of Mal's own book. Luring Early in, making him think he was in control, but setting him up the entire time. Such a smart way to show how much she learned from him, even if Mal doesn't realize he's a leading example.
Now I def want to keep an eye out for more of these moments! Thank you!
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:32:31 +0000 UTC
I didn't realize he died! He brought so much depth and warmth to Shepard Book. His performance really had such a quiet power, and even though he didn't have as much screen time as others, he made every single moment count!
I'll definitely check out some Barney Miller clips. Thank you for the recommend! It's awesome hearing that he had a rich career even after Firefly!
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:30:23 +0000 UTC
You're definitely right. Early was using the threat of assault rather than actually following through, which honestly makes him even more terrifying and gross in a way. But I think I was so shocked in the moment and the unzipping of the pants made it seem like more was happening.. Looking back now, I see that it was just a threat. He knew exactly how to manipulate Kaylee into submission, and that level of calculated cruelty cemented him as a villain to fear. I just wish they wouldn't do that to the viewer.. There are other ways to villainize than abuse one of the most innocent characters.
I also love your point about Early knowing to take out Book so quickly. Makes me wonder what else he really knew about him! Book's backstory is one that I can't wait to dive deep into after I watch Serenity. I just need to know more!
And yeah, I can see how Early and River have some parallels. But he does seem more like a high-functioning sociopath rather than someone with River's unique abilities.
I'll definitely be rewatching this very differently with the comments section here. Also yes, knowing River's plan makes it a different experience completely. Still not my favorite, but definitely interesting with all of this added context!
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:28:31 +0000 UTC
Wow.. Inara's secret adds such a bittwersweet but depressing layer to her character, and looking back, the hints really are there throughout the entire series! I remember her taking out the needle.. I remember the recap to when she first joined and Mal asking her "Why would someone like you want to stay on a ship like this?" and thinking to myself, yeah... Why?
I love how the show left room for different possibilities. Whether she was truly dying or if there was a chance for a cure. It makes me wonder what the writers truly had planned if Firefly continued... Would they have gone full tragedy? Would they have swooped in to save her? Either way, wow so much depth is added to her dynamic knowing this! It makes me wonder what the end of this show looked like for every character now.. What their fate would have been.
It's wild how much story potential was left on the table. Firefly really did deserve so much more.. Thank you for sharing this!!!
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:23:47 +0000 UTC
I can totally see why.. It just felt very unnecessary and uncomfortable. I'll prob be skipping on a rewatch, too!
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:20:12 +0000 UTC
Thank you for this info about The Pacific! I remember the historical introductions being mentioned during the end of BoB, but definitely forgot since it's been awhile! I appreciate the reminder and I'll be sure to watch those with my awesome Blu-ray edition ✨
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:19:51 +0000 UTC
I can't wait for Serenity! See you there!
Kali Wali
2025-02-07 03:18:48 +0000 UTC
Now that you've seen this episode, I can say the continuity error I mentioned from episode 12 when they moved it down in the viewing order. Remember in the beginning of that episode when River is trying to eat her ice planet and she says "My food is problematic," and then Jayne responds by saying "Girl's a mind-reading genius, can't even figure out how to eat an ice planet." Well, Jayne wasn't supposed to know that River could read minds until the crew has their conversation in this episode, where he clearly learns it for the first time.
Not the biggest deal ever, but a fun little discrepancy for those in the know.
I really like this episode. I definitely understand the qualms even if I don't necessarily agree (and I do think you misunderstood some of the plot, which made it appear much worse than it actually was, but still). I think when it comes to art and telling a story, nothing should be off limits, because it's all part of the human condition. But also, if those darker aspects aren't something somebody wants to explore in their media, that's also perfectly valid. Everybody gets to draw their own line.
Onward to Serenity!
Dude Longcouch
2025-02-07 03:14:42 +0000 UTC
Like many psychopaths Early's high Intellect allows his character to probe weighty ideas for the show. His insanity keeps them from being politely repressed & so reveal insight into characters. His struggle w/sanity makes him question what the meaning & purpose of people/things/actions/life, incl our crew & ship.
He & River both probe deeper into the crew's mind/personality. Interestingly we see River's potential danger at the beginning, but by the end we see while painfully burdened, River's is good & can use her insight for good. Early is smart but bad, and can't use gifts to help, only harm.
In a way the struggle that makes River contemplate leaving, helps her find good genius & heroism in her and the crew & us see she is 'safe'/good. The last scene reestablishes the crew is family again & Serenity is their safe home.
Mike
2025-02-07 02:43:47 +0000 UTC
I liked Early. Probably my favorite villain of the show. Much better than Niska's tropey evil bad guy mustache twirling. Early reminded me of Chigurh from No Country. He was supposed to make you feel uneasy.
Farbod
2025-02-07 02:22:10 +0000 UTC
Its the only scence in the show, you recoil at thought of seeing again. I felt it'd be tough, even w/o giving you the impression Early did what he threatened, which is easy to see. It seems even more horrific, because its Kaylee, such a kind, innocent soul.
As others said, his intention was to scare Kaylee to 'imprison' her in fear from trying to complicate his plan, just as well as he'd been able to imprison the others in quarters. It nice to see River's kindness & compassion help Kaylee 'break free' & ultimately foil Jubals plan.
The writer's purpose I think is to show how deeply psychopathic & he is & how potentially dangerous he can be.
Mike
2025-02-07 02:18:09 +0000 UTC
100%, loved that show & Ron Glass's role as Det Harris.
Mike
2025-02-07 01:48:42 +0000 UTC
I love that this really was River's episode! The whole show she's been such a closed book. So intriguing to want to learn more about, and we finally got a little more into her psyche. Feeling what she's feeling, and seeing her in control, saving the day so calmly was amazing. It makes me sad that the series ends, and we don't get to see more of her character develop and get further integrated into the found family of the crew. Also, on my first watch, I also 100% thought that River might have actually melded herself with the ship haha
Early is abhorrent. And is so easy to hate. With the Kaylee scene, beyond just the subject matter, the way he made her repeat back to him to drive that fear in even further - doing that to the most innocent member of the crew - really made my stomach hurt. And kinda had the wrong shock value for me, for a show that's generally been a little on the more lighthearted side. But it sure was satisfying seeing River bring him to his knees. Maybe the Reavers will find him floating out there. One can hope :)
The music in this episode was so good. Don't get me wrong, the music this whole series has been perfect, but this episode stood out. The creepy music for Early, and the beautiful Piano notes for Simon and River really set the tone well
Thank you for this amazing journey through this series! While I'm sad it's over, I instead choose to look back with fondness for all the great memories along the way. Both watching it for the first time myself, and then experiencing it again with you. Thank you for all the love and attention you put into all these episode! Onward to Serenity!
M1 Maz
2025-02-07 01:27:21 +0000 UTC
Lab4
2025-02-07 01:22:37 +0000 UTC
I agree that the scene with Kaylee was written poorly. It could have been handled better without such a threat being made. I get that they wanted you (the viewer) to hate this guy but that was too far. This show was dangerous but mostly in a playful and intense way but that bit of dialogue just made it creepy. If that part would of been written better, the episode would of been a lot more fun. I felt your pain and disgust. The only positive that came out of this episode for me was River's cunning. It gave you more questions about her and her abilities. Overall, I enjoyed the re-watch. I hope after Serenity you go on YouTube and watch some of the panels with parts of the cast. If you find the right one you will learn the origins of Jayne's fancy hat his mother gave him.
Lastboyscout73
2025-02-06 23:52:50 +0000 UTC
I initially really, really hated this episode, but after a long while it grew on me. So much that it even became my favorite episode, which I recognize and respect that is an extremely unpopular opinion. But that's not my hot take. For that, I have to tell you a story, if you'll stick with me a moment.
Many years ago, late in the distant past of the late 20th century, I was fortunate to find myself, at dawn, atop Cadillac Mt. in Maine, near to where I grew up. Depending on the time of year this is the first place that the sun touches the continental United States. As I waited for the sun to crest the horizon, the conditions were perfectly aligned to allow for all those amazing red, orange, and yellow colors to gleam behind the wispy clouds, over the dark ocean. They were incredibly vibrant and beautiful, as if they were painted on the sky by the very brush of God Himself. Never before, and never since, have I witnessed such glorious natural beauty. It took my breath away. I was so overwhelmed by it, I became anxious about when it was going to dissolve into straight sunlight. I gazed with deep amazement, but uncontrollably I kept searching for the sun to peek out enough, over the Atlantic, and dissolve this wonderous sight. I failed to appreciate the moment. I failed to be in that moment. I have been chasing that feeling I felt that morning ever since, to no avail.
When Firefly was canceled, I was devastated. I had only been able to see a few episodes due to how Fox kept bumping it from its time slot and other shenanigans. I felt robbed. I felt betrayed. I didn't get to watch the full series until it was released on DVD the following year. Of course, I binged it before that term had even been properly coined. We had no idea a movie was coming at this point, and thinking about all the questions that never got answered, and all the unfinished storylines, only upset me more. Then the movie came, and it was amazing, which only deepened by anguish. Over the years there were rumors of revival. In the early days of social media, some trolls who saw the cult following growing thought it would be a clever prank to post fake news stories that the revival had official been greenlit. Joy! Happiness that can not be measured. Only to have the rug pulled out from under me. Maybe that's why I don't do social media to this day.
One day I was telling a friend about growing up in Maine and the topic of Cadillac Mt. came up, which reminded me of that one morning all those years ago. And for some reason, that's when it clicked with me. I had been so worried about the end, so angry, that I wasn't really appreciating what we had. This motivated me to rewatch through a new lens. And you know what? I formed the belief, that even if we didn't get the movies, these 14 episodes were a perfect "complete" series. Mysteries were introduced. There were good arcs, even if we didn't get all our answers. And I saw Objects in Space differently. Yeah, Early is evil personified, and I enjoy the thought of him floating through space for all eternity. Somehow that feels like a fitting end to him. But in this episode we got to see great moments between Kaylee and Simon. And we got to see the crew come to a better understanding, and dare I say, acceptance and appreciation for River. Did we get closure? Closure is overrated. Perhaps that's just because I have a deep imagination and I love creating stories. And I spend many a night falling asleep imagining for myself where this crew ended up and what they're doing now. Because it didn't end properly, it fan live on forever in my mind. I sleep soundly and wake up with a smile on my face, as I fall asleep on journey's with my crew.
It may be me, but for those reasons, I am ok with this episode being the last episode.
Aaron Chandler
2025-02-06 23:50:11 +0000 UTC
The conversation between Kaylee and Early is certainly very shocking (by design).
I think due to this you have misunderstood what he said though; He threatened to assault her, if she didn't comply. But she did comply, and thus was "only" tied up and left there.
I'm not saying it's not horrible, but not nearly as horrific as you were imagining.
Early was a very weird character, I agree. And certainly, this is not a great episode to end things on. Thankfully we still have Serenity (2005) to look forward to! 🤗
Onno Smits
2025-02-06 22:43:03 +0000 UTC
One of my favourite pieces of writing with this series is that if we look back at every one of Mal's plans for a heist or a fight is that they all are set around the ideas of either misdirection, contingency plans, having the area pre-scouted, leaving someone lying in wait, etc. All very guerrilla warfare stuff. Keep an eye out as you're rewatching, it's in almost every single confrontation. And here we see that River learned from him, she baited the hook for Early to take her and leave while she had set up Mal to spring the trap.
Preaching to the Horse's Mouth
2025-02-06 21:24:13 +0000 UTC
RIP Ron Glass (aka Shepard Book). I am always left with additional sadness at the end of watching the series knowing he is no longer with us. Most of the people that find this show have not seen him in much else. Most of his career was made up of small bit parts in movies and tv. But, I am old enough to remember watching him as a kid when he was much younger as Det. Harris on the comedy Barney Miller in the 70s. He was a great actor and I am happy he found the love and recognition he deserved from Firefly fans. If you get a chance, look up some old clips on YouTube of Barney Miller, its a real treat. 🙏❤️☮️
Matthew
2025-02-06 21:02:44 +0000 UTC
you're completely right as to the intention but that doesn't make it ok. Whedon, a man, is trying to shock us by using violence against women in this way. He's doing the same thing with the story about the dog and I don't think he understands the difference (dogs aren't watching the show).
Totally agree that it's an easier rewatch though.
Rob Stanley
2025-02-06 20:41:00 +0000 UTC
Regarding this episode, I think you might have misinterpreted what happened between Kaylee and Early. Early was using the THREAT of assault to force Kaylee to do what he wanted; he didn't actually go through with it.
That scene had two purposes: First, it was designed to make the viewer uncomfortable and establish Early as someone to fear and hate. But the second purpose was to show how much information he had on the crew. He knew EXACTLY which psychological buttons to press to scare Kaylee so much that she would be completely compliant. Not only did she tell Early where to look for River, she was still so scared afterward that she couldn't bring herself to do anything to stop Early until River prompted her.
Along those lines, Early also knew to take out Shepherd Book quickly and violently, without any warning. I wonder why he did that? Maybe he knows something more about Book than we do. ;)
It's pretty clear Early had some form of psychiatric disorder. Probably antisocial personality disorder or something like it. You're not the first to link River and Early, but I suspect he's a little more mundane: just a high-functioning sociopath. The plan was for Early to be an occasional recurring antagonist had the series continued, just like Niska, Badger, Saffron, and maybe Patience.
I'll also note that the episode is more enjoyable on rewatch because you know what River's plan is from the beginning. Also after watching the movie and knowing all the secrets because it explains what River is hearing from some of the others. Even with that, not many fans consider it a favorite. You're very much not alone with your feelings of it.
Michael Kemmet
2025-02-06 19:46:01 +0000 UTC
As promised, here is Inara's secret. It was supposedly confirmed by Joss Whedon, but it was definitely confirmed by Morena Baccarin at a convention many years back. You can find it on YouTube if you search for "Inara's secret".
During the entire series, Inara was dying. She only had a year or three left.
Shortly before she joined Serenity, she was diagnosed with a terminal, degenerative disease. She joined Serenity to see as much of the world as she could in the time she had left. It's also why she tried to not allow herself to form romantic relationships. I'm sure she tells herself it's to protect others(Mal) from the eventual grief of her loss, but I'm also sure the real reason is because she's scared.
There are hints about her situation from the first episode, and almost every episode has at least a little tidbit that furthers the storyline just a bit. The syringe she looks at in the pilot episode when the reavers are threatening is there to end her suffering when the disease eventually becomes debilitating. There are at least three times in the series where she points out how long she's been on the ship. This is important because in Ariel, she says all Companions have a major medical exam once a year. If you plot out the times, you'll see that she joined Serenity just after an exam. And it explains Nandi's comments in the last episode about how Inara just up and left her previous life with no warning.
How would the storyline have wrapped up? I have no idea. Maybe she would have really died. Maybe Simon would have found a cure. Maybe River had a cure locked in her head somewhere. Maybe Inara wasn't really sick, but someone in the Guild that was jealous of her faked the medical test results. Your guess is as good as mine. Part of me wonders if the writers didn't even know and wanted to keep their options open to see what audience reactions were and maybe to have something to use if Morena Baccarin wanted to leave the show or something down the road.
Once the show was cancelled and the movie green-lit, there wasn't time to resolve this plot, so they just retconned it away for the movie. So in a weird way, Inara is dying in the series, but perfectly fine in the movie. They could do that because they only hinted at it in the series and never set it in stone.
Hope this wasn't too much of a bummer. ;)
Michael Kemmet
2025-02-06 19:22:03 +0000 UTC
I skip the Kaylee scene when I rewatch by myself. The girl in town in heart of gold too. I don't think they add anything. I love the "River is the ship" stuff otherwise I'd probably skip this whole episode.
Rob Stanley
2025-02-06 18:55:35 +0000 UTC
Hi Kali! This was a great series to watch along with you! Just as a heads up for your next series: if you’re doing a reaction to the Pacific (and watching it on the Blu-ray set that was gifted to you), don’t forget to watch it with the historical introductions. There are interviews with the real veterans in there as well as some great background info! They are done in two or so minutes before the ‘HBO’ intro pops up on every episode, so you can just start the watch-along timer as soon as you see the HBO sign come up since most people probably won’t be watching along with the historical intro version. Thank you so much for sharing your reactions with us, you’re such a joy to watch along with!
Jake McGrath
2025-02-06 18:35:30 +0000 UTC
Glad to be here for the journey, next stop Serenity!
Brown-Coats forever!
Scott S
2025-02-06 18:28:46 +0000 UTC