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Chocolate Extract

The next video is about making chocolate extract the proper way, and it has similarities to bourbon. Putting cocoa nibs in vodka does not make a proper extract, sorry. I think a good chocolate extract is great to use in cocktails, since many spirits already have hints of chocolate, either from the char on the oak barrel or from the grains. On the soda side, the Chocolate Phosphate was a popular soda, up their with vanilla and pineapple sodas. 

If you have any questions let me know and I'll see if I can work them into the video, or answer them here. 

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I do not see a video. Is the second video the one about making chocolate syrup? I thought the second video was going to be about distilling the used cocoa nibs and adding the extract back….or something like that. Either way I don’t see a video. Do I need a higher membership tier to see the second chocolate extract video?

Robert Ketcham

Natural flavours typically don't include those, but if you look at the nutrition label and see sodium, but in the ingredient list you don't see any salts then it may. For example, calcium lactate is a salt, but it is used as a flavour like in Pringles sour cream and onion chips. Many compounds can wear multiple hats.

Darcy S. O'Neil

Usually not, most colours are used in tiny quantities and tend not to effect the flavour.

Darcy S. O'Neil

An extract is typically made using a solvent like alcohol. A concentrate can be made by boiling or distillation. Essential oils are often considered concentrates.

Darcy S. O'Neil

lastly- does natural flavors mean the salt / acid ingredients for balance?

Coach Selby ~ Crystal Clear Clarity Coaching Expert

does extract for color add any flavor?

Coach Selby ~ Crystal Clear Clarity Coaching Expert

what is the difference between an extract and a concentrate-- I'm looking at ingredients of san Pellegrino drink ?

Coach Selby ~ Crystal Clear Clarity Coaching Expert

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Coach Selby ~ Crystal Clear Clarity Coaching Expert

Pectin can act like a stabilizer but it is mostly a thickening agent to add body to a drink.

Darcy S. O'Neil

one more question-- what about pectin? the Italian soda has it as an ingredient - is it considered a salt?

Coach Selby ~ Crystal Clear Clarity Coaching Expert

ok-- will do some testing-- thank you for the clarifications

Coach Selby ~ Crystal Clear Clarity Coaching Expert

Vanilla is always easy, cinnamon might work. Heat up the glycerin (130F) as it will help extract better.

Darcy S. O'Neil

Only in certain cases, like chocolate, vanilla, coffee or gentian. Those ingredients are already partially soluble in water, so glycerin works.

Darcy S. O'Neil

Alcohol is still best, and glycerin is okay but its reputation has been pumped up over the years, but the results are less than stellar, except for things like vanilla, which is partially soluble in water anyway. For straight oils, like lemon, lime or orange oil glycerin isn't a good match.

Darcy S. O'Neil

i will get some vegetable glycerin and play around with it-- any suggestions for test projects?

Coach Selby ~ Crystal Clear Clarity Coaching Expert

Like dissolves like- so does glycerin take on the quality needed to bring stability/ balance to the formula?

Coach Selby ~ Crystal Clear Clarity Coaching Expert

Can I use glycerin as a medium to extract or alcohol is best?

Coach Selby ~ Crystal Clear Clarity Coaching Expert

A stabilizer, like glycerin, is can be used to help keep everything together. When I add glycerin, it can help keep certain oils dissolved in a syrup or alcohol solution. I'll eventually get into the chemistry details but the simple thing we say in chemistry is that "like dissolves like" so glycerin will help dissolve compounds that are similar to it.

Darcy S. O'Neil

Question-- you mentioned stabilizer. what is a stabilizer stabilizing and what is its purpose? Do all drinks need this?

Coach Selby ~ Crystal Clear Clarity Coaching Expert


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