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SNEAK PEAK: First Half of OUAT Season 4!

Did somebody ask for the FROZEN ARC???? Here it is <3

No I am NOT excited to dig into the Queens of Darkness arc, thank you for asking. But it's all worth it for the 2-part season finale. I'm just sprinting towards the incredible 2-part finale and high fiving Will Scarlet on my way there.

Also sorry for dropping this in the literal middle of the night, this one is for everyone being kept awake by fireworks.

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the whole-the whole time??? THE WHOLE TIME??? i continue to be flabbergasted by the wide range in production value/choices in this show, it is so inconsistent and bad on the eyeballs

cheyenne 🌠

I forgot about the author arc of this show and seeing as how right now my huge hyperfixation is the shaperaverse as a whole (because of YOU and your video on dolls) it's another thing to add onto the pile of similarities between this show and ballad of lost hollow (the trilogy after new albion tetralogy)

Slime Enby

so glad that im not the only person with insane beef with elsa's dress and the fact that she wears it THE ENTIRE TIME

Veerle Reinders

Wait does gold turning the apprentice into a mouse make him Mickey?!

Matt E.

This was also the season that I finally had enough of whatever Belle and Rumple have going on. The Frozen arc ends in a way that very much should have been final for their relationship.

Emma Stuart

I've watched pretty much all of this show, and I genuinely don't know why the writers made some of the decisions they did when it comes to the two of them. There are some truly baffling plot points for them that don't really seem to serve any purpose for either of their characters. Like, don't have your "good" characters do morally ambiguous/bad things if you're not prepared to deal with the nuances involved.

Emma Stuart

Cruella is pretty much the only part of that arc that I liked, besides the finale.

Emma Stuart

Honestly, I always liked the first part of S4 even though it's poorly written. I really liked Emma and Elsa's friendship, and Regina's arc was one of my favorites. I'm forever mad that they ruined it just for the nonsense that happened in the second 1/2. It would been so much better if Marian had actually been saved, especially knowing what really ends up happening with her. Also, I love the finale of this 1/2! It's so unserious and funny, and I love it every time I watch it.

Emma Stuart

I remember watching this show as a teen and never being particularly bothered by its Not Spectacular writing (and frankly when I finally get around to my rewatch I doubt I will be then either purely because it was so formative for me) but I *do* really appreciate your consistent refusal to accept the writers' nonsense and commitment to rewriting history so it. You know. Actually makes sense lmao

TheAceApples

I must admit, I actually liked the Queens of Darkness arc. Though Ursula was criminally under utilized, Cruella was fun for my camp-obsessed drag queen self

CC Daly

The way they used the EXACT same formula to introduce Neal and Lily 👀🙄

Sophia S

i dont know what it is but the flashback of emma and lily has been one of the maybe five things i remembered from watching the show that will just regularly make its way into my brain

notwilhulbert

Bro the *SPOILERS* Being manipulated against their will by the essential god of this place??? Like WHYYYYY was that in there

chronic_escapee

Imo, the biggest issue with the frozen arc is the fact that frozen was only 2~ years old when this season came out, and disney was still 1000% in their frozen era. Not sure when they filmed this, but it's possible that the movie was basically brand new when they began filming for season 4 (or at least the end of season 3). Disney wasn't gonna let OUAT of all things change a THING about their beloved cashcow, not at this state. Everything must be screen accurate, quality be damned. God I would KILL to see elsa and anna properly done up by the OUAT stylists. Aeuughjjhhhhhhh

Roman Lanslide

I waited until I had the time and energy to watch the part all the way through and I am so glad I did, this was *fantastic* and I'm *so* glad for the next part loll

ClaireOnline

i was really convinced frozen was so much further into this show… SEASON 4!?

Wren!!

that actually explains more about the show

Micah

I dont think it was a licensing thing (given the show was on ABC which is owned by Disney). I think it was a mandate from the higherups to keep everything Frozen more literal and one to one because Frozen was such a financial juggernaut.

Agumame

the disneyfication is definitely them trying to get their moneys worth for the licensing (i do not know how licensing works)

Micah

i will not do it, i cannot get on the show's side and insist you can just replace your previous neal with a new one

Haley Whipjack

oh the second half of this season is so bad for them

Haley Whipjack

The more and more of this show I get explained, the more confident I become that Mary Margaret and David Nolan are the true villains. Like actually the most despicable people in the show.

Agumame

i love how you just refused to cover up baelfire neal even tho that would put the baby next to its mother instead baby neal is banished to the furthest corner of the white board

Fish

thank you for making beautifully unhinged content in these trying times while i experience Depressed Enby Summer

spicymushrooms

Pop up books are fun at all ages I will die on this hill

Baddakid

As uh. not great. as the whole Frozen plot is, I appreciate that they gave us a villain who's motive ties back to the themes of the actual movie. Idk if it makes the Frozen stuff any better, but I appreciated it.

Roman Lanslide

HOW DID I MISS THIS

Haley Whipjack

i actually did cut a lot of 'hey ladies' vibes from the end because it was getting just so long, but yes that conversation is so much. They are so much.

Haley Whipjack

there are a Lot of contenders

Haley Whipjack

and I believe it!!! The showrunners straight up apologized to him!

Haley Whipjack

I think it's interesting when we get into the ideas of essentially free will, if there is ever a chance for the characters to break their tropes. If I saw a book with my entire life in it I would also probably spiral about it!

Haley Whipjack

it makes me genuinely unwell that Ingrid's entire existence and somewhat meaningful relationships in this show are only possible because of the utterly abhorent abuse of memory-wiping spells. she just keeps hitting the reset button

Rey

that cat is simply too adorable

hduke

New drinking game, take a sip everytime "the whole time" gets said

Mitchemditchem

absolutely excellent first half, can't wait for more!! (also sorry i never wound up commenting on the full version of the s3 video--watched it and loved it but then got fully subsumed by a separate hyperfixation whoops) you're so right about the outfits, first of all, it is SO jarring that they just straight-up have elsa in storybrooke in a bad costume of her movie outfit the whole time. like what WAS that decision??? also i very much agree about the ways that robin loves regina, and that every regina+henry scene is Very Cute (the scene where henry demands to be let back into the house gets me every time) the thing about me and s4 is that there are So Many ways in which it is Not Good but god every emma/regina scene in it has had me in a chokehold since i was a teenager so i am incapable of being normal about it. once upon a time for me really is, i am realizing, what supernatural was for a lot of my friends lmao. also i am SO glad we're on the same page about Whatever The Fuck was happening with emma and lily lmao. i did want to ask your thoughts on the emma/regina scene at the end of that ep, though ("they don't understand what it feels like to be rejected and misunderstood, not the way i do, not the way YOU do. and somehow that makes us...unique, maybe even special. i wasn't looking for you to assuage my guilt, i was just looking for you to be my friend" / "you thought we were friends?" / "crazy, right? but i thought it could be that it was possible... i'm not gonna stop trying, even if you still want to kill me" / "emma...i don't want to kill you") bc every time i watch it i go FULLY insane and i totally get that the first half of this season's vid is already 2 hours and you probably had to streamline it for time but like. you know??? to borrow your turn of phrase: ladies?????? excuse me, ladies????????? anyway i would love to hear your thoughts/feelings (if you had any! it is possible that perhaps this is an insanity i am alone with)

Alix

oh thank you!

Joshua Caliendo

loved the first part! i actually can't wait till the second one for the ending where you choose the loser of the season because BY GOD everyone lost so bad. genuinely can't remember who has had a good time in season four

Rey

To be completely honest, I'd be sad if I didn't seem Hermes in a video.

Chris

Michael Socha described filming Season 4 as "soul-destroying". Make of that what you will. I love that you call them "Elsa Frozen" and" Anna Frozen" like it's their government names. 😂

Scoobert Doobert

I’m an Australian so perfect timing

leila of paper

They really did just insert every Frozen pun and reference they could. Surprised you didn’t react more to Elsa’s “cold never bothered me” line. Personally I really hate the author arc. Perhaps why you’re not getting a happy ending as a villain is because you keep doing terrible things? You hurt a bunch of people? Like particularly Regina and Rumple, almost everything that comes to them is of their own doing. Even with Marian - like Regina did fully kill her earlier in her life and that’s a small consequence for the mass murder she did as the evil queen.

leila of paper

I feel like it must needs be said (and apologies if it is said later in the video) that the apprentice is turned into a mouse. The Sorcerer’s Apprentice is a mouse… HE’S MICKEY GODDAMNED MOUSE!!

Billie Turner

Also Hermes is the cutest thing in the whole world!! Him looking up at you and purring is ADORABLE 🥹

Dani Bee

Did I stall starting my day to watch this 2 hour long masterpiece? You already know I did! ✌🏻👁️👅👁️ Cannot express how obsessed I am with the fact that the two broody dark-head hottie villains/Emma Swan’s boyfriend and girlfriend spent the entirety of season 4A mooning over their good-guy partners. Regina Mills and Robin Hood hold a permanent residence in my brain so bad, dude. I want to eat them! 😤🥺

Dani Bee

Australian here, just finished work when I got the notification

Chris Hope

Our American hero

nix

I literally constantly listen to the first three to sleep and was doing exactly that seconds ago (and failing on the sleeping part) so this is perfect timing!

RainbowNomja

Oh this is in fact perfect timing (guy with fireworks anxiety) This is the second to last season I can remember anything of I also remember it being the first time I went "This is bad AND I LIKE IT"

FoolerywithNorrie

I live for the crazy hours you post just when i needed something to watch. Cannot wait to see the whole shabang

Axeres

I'm awake because bec summer break so my sleep schedule is non existent and now I have an reason to be up!

Midnightrose


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