EARLY ACCESS: They Put Frozen in my TV Show (Once Upon a Time Season 4 Recap)
Added 2024-07-25 16:00:54 +0000 UTCHere it is!!! It needs some audio massaging, I swear I accidentally deleted a clip of myself somewhere that I just can't nail down, and I need to add in the sponsor segment, but this is the nearly ready version of the season 4 recap!
I hope you enjoy it, I do get a bit Heated in the second half of this one. I don't know why I let this show give me so many feelings.
This will probably have to go public on Tuesday, giving you guys less than a week of exclusivity, which I am very sorry about! But I'm working with a sponsor and if they need it up in July, they need it in July. I hope you can forgive me on this one.
Comments
Really just love these recaps, I have never seen an episode of the show but I am now overly invested in the characters (especially Regina) and I love seeing you get heated about this objectively bad tv show. Also, despite all the wild plot twists, nothing could have prepared me for the line about the next season taking place in Hell.
Julianna Backer
2024-08-11 01:14:12 +0000 UTCI can't believe I watched the entire frozen arc in real time on ABC back in the day and then willingly tuned into the next half of that season.
Katherine Powell
2024-08-10 02:12:54 +0000 UTCgenuinely insane to me that "the author" becomes a mystery in season 4 as if that should always have been an unanswered question on our minds. if you'd asked me before this video who's the author i would have said with 100% conviction that it was august. like i'm not crazy right that's what you're supposed to think before this season.
Styx
2024-08-04 12:31:23 +0000 UTCSUPERNATURAL VIDEO??!
Cameron Clow
2024-08-01 19:29:06 +0000 UTClol they gave maleficent the new outfit this season cause it came out after the maleficent movie. so they tried to imitate ANGELINA JOLIE'S MALEFICENT, which was a wild choice. also maleficent was a good guy in her movie.
Jordy_La_Forge
2024-08-01 01:24:19 +0000 UTCMy sister burst into my room to tell me this was up on YouTube yesterday and looked so betrayed when I told her I was a Patron and had already watched it
Alex Watts
2024-07-31 22:11:34 +0000 UTCI have nothing but respect for Ursula for living in squalor because she’s blown all her money on tropical fish.
Blake Stewart
2024-07-31 11:11:24 +0000 UTCI DO watch the the end! lol I cna only imagine how crazy a 4 hr spn vid would get, im all in.
Beardic Knowledge
2024-07-30 22:42:59 +0000 UTCstoked for a supernatural video but i would also remove limbs for a steven universe recap....... should u be so inclined
jubilee
2024-07-30 19:50:40 +0000 UTCsprntrl ? hell yea
Joshua Caliendo
2024-07-29 07:46:13 +0000 UTCIt kills me, dude 😂 I hope to God that David’s contact photo is the same as Emma’s
Dani Bee
2024-07-28 09:34:23 +0000 UTCFinally watched to the end Yet again a fantastic video omg Hate the Zelena twist, hate it a lot, but hey, the video was great loll Also I swear as I was watching I was like "Huh, Haley's mentioning supernatural a weird amount" and then I got to the secret ending while doing something else and when I heard it my head just snapped up loll
ClaireOnline
2024-07-28 02:06:15 +0000 UTCMy hot take is that I kind of like the Frozen story line. But what really condemns season 4 for be is that they started being very Disney-accurate with the costumes. I cannot take Elsa's outfit or Cruella's outfit seriously they look like bad Halloween costumes and I hate it.
Annie Bonus
2024-07-28 01:34:47 +0000 UTCI will never stop laughing about Robin's contact list, which is Regina, Will Scarlet, Granny's Takeout, and all the Charmings. Literally WHAT
Milieumarch
2024-07-27 19:03:23 +0000 UTCis this the supernatural video you talked about in the beginning of your first ice age video?
Fish
2024-07-27 14:27:49 +0000 UTCor hey have emma be the dark one and have lilly be part of what saves her. have that free will theme and the role swap au they wanted so badly but do it right this time.
Fish
2024-07-27 14:24:00 +0000 UTCthis was the season i gave up on when i first watch ouat my two favourite characters of the entire show were neil cassidy and lily i loved them. i loved that there were like emma in being from magic land but also stuck here i loved that they were also teenagers (mostly) and gave her the best chance at family and love either if them were capable off i was devastated when neil was killed off and then they go and fumbled lily story line?!? like i truly thought she was going to be the dark one. emmas refection the "potential darkness" that was taken from her as a fetus. i was so mad. the rest of the show ment nothing to me. so i stopped watching and never saw the final two seasons. i think i watched the first episode of season five and then gave up.
Fish
2024-07-27 14:22:08 +0000 UTCi do in fact watch the videos until the end, cannot wait to see a supernatural video - it'll be the most i've ever seen of supernatural outside tumblr gifs, ahahahaaha anyway, the sheer audacity of this show to make emma just... Like That with regina all over this season (not to mention her Experiences with lily), forcing us to sit through the bizarre frozen plot choices, and then to just pretend it means nothing.... truly a crime of the highest degree :P the stuff with isaac's roleswap au is like... it's not even a good story? like give me a snow who turns from spoiled to cruel and a regina who struggles past her hurt at daniel's loss to do her best at guiding snow down a better path! give me regina with a bit more luck and snow with a little less! just, man, you got it exactly right that these guys are just not the same people and it's uninspired to pretend this is how 'villains get a happy ending' - i am so glad they didn't kill maleficent and lily, though, like i could've sworn one or both of them died this season and i'm glad to know i remembered wrong (i watched selected episodes of this season, so i didn't know everything that happened in the episodes i didn't watch) OH ALSO i have a theory on will scarlet to make this season go down easier! but i can't actually share the theory until... sometime next season? i think? i'd feel guiltier about using future info to solve this plot hole, but the writers clearly feel no guilt on their end, so i refuse to feel any myself, ahaha
digimaniac33
2024-07-27 09:26:28 +0000 UTCI like to think that if they didn't have to do the Frozen arc then the three queens would have gotten a full season and perhaps wouldn't have been so rushed. Top 3 characters, for me: I have to give Henry my top spot because I think he really starts to come into his own as they set him up with "author responsibilities" later on. For number two, definitely Belle, I always love her and finally standing up to Gold drives home for me (though Lacey is still a guilty pleasure). as for number three, gotta be Regina, and really, Regina & Emma as Power Mom's; best Moms in the whole show.
Jordan Brauer
2024-07-27 04:29:31 +0000 UTCI think Neal would be a scout rogue, in all honesty
chronic_escapee
2024-07-26 23:17:16 +0000 UTCI’m still so mad that Lily’s story never got a proper resolution
Cadaver Cain
2024-07-26 22:22:06 +0000 UTCZelena is the worst. Being such a big Wicked fan, as well as WoO, I hated the characterization from the get go; and she only goes downhill from here.
Jordan Brauer
2024-07-26 20:32:21 +0000 UTCIt always makes me laugh that Robinhood and his family lived in Neal's apartment when as far as we know, Emma still has two much nicer, family friendly apartments. There is the one in New York where she and Henry lived during the year between parts A and B of season 3, and the one she still has in Boston, proven in season 6 when she returns to it. Why wouldn't she give Robin one of those much nicer places to stay?
Kate Baro
2024-07-26 20:25:12 +0000 UTCI THINK I FIGURED OUT WHY THEY SAID WONDERLAND HAD TO TAKE PLACE POST SEASON 2!: In OUATIW, Jafar breaks the laws of magic, one of which being you can’t go back in time, and that is Zelena’s whole thing throughout season 3 part 2, and she successfully does it. If the laws of magic were still in tact, she wouldn’t have been able to do so, but they aren’t, thanks to Jafar’s efforts. He’s the reason the time portal could even happen
chronic_escapee
2024-07-26 18:54:38 +0000 UTCRobin hood multiclass as ranger and rogue snow either cleric, ranger, or maybe druid emma is a fighter that later multiclasses into a sorcerer kind of against her will hook is for sure swashbuckling rogue
Avery Little
2024-07-26 18:42:37 +0000 UTCthe thing that drives me the most crazy about season 4 is the fact that they specifically say anna was gone for 30 years, and given that she met shepard david and pre-rumple belle, implies that the majority of the enchanted forest plots took place over TWO YEARS. TWO YEARS for david to take a mans place get married meet snow save snows life them defeat regina and take back the kingdom get married and have a kid. TWO YEARS for rumple and belles stuff to happen, belle to get kidnapped by regina and have her death faked, and for rumple to get all the dark curse stuff in motion, be captured by cinderella. like ill even be generous and say snow was like only pregnant for 8 months thats still 16 MONTHS FOR EVERYTHING TO TAKE PLACE. thats INSANE you cannot convince me that is true.
Avery Little
2024-07-26 18:37:07 +0000 UTCIngrid would be in my personal top 3 for season 4. Is she always written well, no. But, my gay ass saw her queer coded story about being different from and ostracized by her family and I just couldn't help relating. Also, Isaac took away Cruella's ability to kill anyone, not just him. Her happy ending was getting the ability to be a serial killer back, I love to hate her.
Daniel Enns
2024-07-26 17:13:22 +0000 UTCI’m still so mad that they didn’t do anything with Lily. I remember asking a friend who had already finished the show about if we’d find out who Lily’s dad is and she had to inform me that we never see her again? I was so mad. They could have done so much with the concept and they didn’t.
Chris
2024-07-26 16:18:21 +0000 UTCYes I do watch all the way to the end and I'd lose my mind over a SPN video!
The Plum Satyr
2024-07-26 14:59:27 +0000 UTCI'm honestly so glad you love robin as much as I did when I first watched this show because navigating the fandom as a swanqueen enjoyer and a robin enjoyer back then was rough and these videos have been so cathartic for 13 year old me 😅 (I always watch to the end of videos, very excited for the supernatural content!!)
James
2024-07-26 14:38:21 +0000 UTC“Next season we’ll be spending a lot of time in hell” were we not already spending a lot of time in hell with every single scene of Snow White and Charming being the worst people ever while the show insists theyre good?
Agumame
2024-07-26 14:19:49 +0000 UTCi remember gasping at the screen alongside gold doing the same. twist - for sure, but god WHY. how did she even know that this random lady is marian....
Rey
2024-07-26 11:47:24 +0000 UTCAnd it sucked the whole time 😤
Dani Bee
2024-07-26 11:33:30 +0000 UTCHere are some of the classes they actually (imo): Regina: Wizard for sure Emma: Paladin Henry: College of Lore Bard Snow: Ranger maybe? Charming: Fighter Gold: Warlock who sold his soul for evil Belle: Archivist Artificer Robin: Ranger for sure Hook: Swashbuckling rogue (duh) Marco: Artificer Zelena: a murderhobo sorcerer with 0 charisma Ruby: A druid lol Will Scarlet: Rogue Neal: i have no idea. August: A bard? idk Cora: a wizard or warlock? not sure
Dani Bee
2024-07-26 11:32:13 +0000 UTCNo you’re so right! The way you’ve described how the situation would play out with Henry DM-ing and how Regina + Emma would be roped in? Could not be more correct!
Dani Bee
2024-07-26 11:24:20 +0000 UTCooo, i've been wanting to hear haley's thoughts on this too!! the only ones i've really got concrete opinions about are regina, emma, henry, and the charmings henry would be the dm, i feel like he would thrive in that role and also it's the only way you could actually get all of them to sit at a table and play dnd together. plus if henry is dm-ing, regina is throwing herself wholeheartedly into supporting him and learning all the minute details of the game so that she can help him (and also so she can Win), while emma is going "cool, regina and henry know the rules? i don't have to study at all then" and truly never bothers to learn any actual rules of the game besides what she needs to roll for attack + damage. and she's right, because regina and henry would chime in and tell her what to do every time she had a question regina would never not be a wizard, i think. she'd take such pride in copying every spell scroll she could find into her spellbook and then having just SUCH a range of utility spells, but under stress would default to fireball during combat i could see a lot of different classes for emma so i think it'd come down to how henry sold her on it, but i could really see barbarian or rogue or paladin or some combination of the three for her. regina keeps teasing her about just hitting stuff with weapons when she COULD be doing magic, but emma looks at the 20-page printout henry gave regina of her spells and what they do and goes "no thanks, i'm good actually" unfortunately i don't see any world where snow isn't a cleric and charming isn't either a paladin (but like, the boring kind) or a fighter. but like, i love + respect clerics and paladins, but they would VERY much be the Annoying And Preachy kind, u know?
Alix
2024-07-26 11:19:46 +0000 UTCLiterally! I am fully convinced that they were not planning this twist until after the first half of the season. They just threw it in to do something crazy and dramatic😭
Timothy Newton
2024-07-26 11:18:52 +0000 UTC100% agree. Zelena should not have been given a redemption arc in future seasons. No way no way no way
Dani Bee
2024-07-26 11:15:13 +0000 UTCright?! There are not one, not two BUT 3 storylines where men are SA-ed in this show! Two of which are under false pretences! WHY???
Dani Bee
2024-07-26 11:13:51 +0000 UTCi have to admit that i like season 4, the show is still fun, bits and pieces of it are great but so many plotlines are left undeveloped or dropped completely. but ummm. it feels like the writers wanted to give us complexity and some conflict with the characters we already know but instead of making them grey they are making them randomly do supervillian shit. gold is fine in 4a but what happened in 4b? he hated lying to his wife and wanted to keep henry around only to tell the author to write him a happy marriage and forget henry altogether. the charmings - entirely agree with what was said in the video, wtf was that. the whole zelena thing is so unnecessary and insanely cruel. she tortured everyone around, she forced herself onto Robin and then acts like being pregnant makes her better (it makes her worse). SPOILERS and she keeps being an awful person in season 5 but the writers act as being a mother changed her somehow in a matter of a month. i wish emma succeeded with the thing she was planning to do with zelena, it would've made 5a FAR BETTER. they generally just fail to make the characters grey. dark swan - what a waste, what was that. don't get me started on Regina's magically induced DID, I will yell about it in the next part's comments.
Rey
2024-07-26 11:12:39 +0000 UTCBetter yet: Ruby was right there and looking as sexy as alway! Will Scarlet had no business fooling around with a librarian when his entire girlfriend is waiting for him!
Dani Bee
2024-07-26 11:11:20 +0000 UTCShe has a PHD in hospitality bc homegirl SERVED this season. She said “Oh I get to play an unrepentant and entirely morally reprehensible villain? Say less”. I respect it so hard
Dani Bee
2024-07-26 11:10:15 +0000 UTCVery straight behaviour. Nothing to see here at all ✋🏻
Dani Bee
2024-07-26 11:08:34 +0000 UTCIt still pisses me off to this day! It makes no sense 😫 Zelena didn’t know she would be afflicted by the Snow Queen’s curse when she told Regina that “she could have Robin”, so that whole plot point is ridiculous! Zelena didn’t know Marian that well either, so how did she manage to perfectly fool Robin into not thinking anything was suspect for that long? Robin surely would have stopped to be like “hm my wife seems super different”. I call bs! Zelena disguised as Marian is the worstttt
Dani Bee
2024-07-26 11:07:21 +0000 UTCpleaseeee the way I could talk about this season all day every day is nuts. And you’re totally reading my mind here 👆🏻
Dani Bee
2024-07-26 11:02:45 +0000 UTCI vividly remember being absolutely gobsmacked at the Zelena twist😭
Timothy Newton
2024-07-26 11:01:08 +0000 UTCAlso I truly cannot express how obsessed I am with this season. Not even bc I love it so much or bc I think it’s great television, but because it introduces such prime angst material that I think about OFTEN. These fairy tail people hold a permanent residence in my brain. Such as: WHY was Regina in so much seemingly physical pain after drinking the infertility potion when Snow wasn’t way back after being cursed/poisoned by King George? Thinking about this one too much genuinely makes me so sad 😢 And absolutely everything with Maleficent drives me nuts in the best way. She’s such a tragic lady and I hope she and Lily are happy. Plus the vibes between her and Regina? I want to eat them. Regina is the world’s most bisexual woman ever. I adore her. And Robin Hood? Byeee ✋🏻 I love that man and his cute son so much! I could seriously talk about this season forever
Dani Bee
2024-07-26 10:54:51 +0000 UTCFirst off, excellent video as always. Love love love! Second of all I have an important question for the culture: What DnD classes do we think the Once folks are and what classes do we think they would play? Would love to hear thoughts, gang!
Dani Bee
2024-07-26 10:49:04 +0000 UTCTw. Hey abc, why did you make the wicked witch of the west rape robin hood? Why did you write, film and play that on television
Mitchemditchem
2024-07-26 10:48:53 +0000 UTCOmg is Maleficent played by miss Pam true blood herself??? Queen
Oleafia
2024-07-26 09:27:04 +0000 UTCExciting exciting secrets!! And next season is actually the last season I watch activly but I dont remember if I finished it or not, I just remember Camelot then Hades? The underworld? Idk man this whole show is a fever dream. But I love listening to you talk about it
Kelsea Chadbourne
2024-07-26 07:02:15 +0000 UTCthe frozen arc purely existed to capitalize on frozen fever and at the time I was absolutely down for it... in hindsight it is such an absolutely insane thing that happened
Spapples
2024-07-26 06:11:24 +0000 UTCI am very excited for the secret I simply cannot wait
The Wizard Sea
2024-07-26 04:21:45 +0000 UTCSECRETS!!!
The Wizard Sea
2024-07-26 04:21:17 +0000 UTCIn regards to that end button I CARE SO SO MUCH ACTUALLY This was the last full season I watched as a child... or as an adult actually
FoolerywithNorrie
2024-07-26 03:36:29 +0000 UTCin the flashbacks with young ursula when she and her father are talking one of them mentions that she is named after said sea goddess bc the writers realized they had written themselves into a corner
Avery Little
2024-07-26 02:21:03 +0000 UTCIf the author isn't supposed to change just record... Why does the quill need to be able to do all that
Matt E.
2024-07-26 01:33:51 +0000 UTCCan't wait to see your commentary on some of the choices they make in 5b...especially in regards to your two favorite characters, Zelena and Cora 😬
Matt E.
2024-07-26 00:27:51 +0000 UTComg supernatural video, can't wait
annnnnnnna
2024-07-26 00:21:13 +0000 UTCfrom this point onward I am actually choosing to believe that opening a time portal at the end of season 3 is what derailed the show into this, it's an alternative fucked up timeline that was weirdly changed due to messing with time. the rest of this show is this weird because of this.
Rey
2024-07-25 23:45:39 +0000 UTCthe full video is soooo good!!! i've been waiting so eagerly for it and was NOT disappointed. also i can't believe you gave a shoutout to that scene from ep 5 in the mid-season break! i wasn’t expecting it and i got to that part on my lunch break in the middle of a super rough day at work and it completely made my day!! also rewatching 4b and the “you made me a monster but i won’t let you do the same to emma” “so that’s your answer, you’re choosing the savior over your beloved robin hood” makes me so insane every time. “let’s make today the day we both beat fate” too. and emma’s sacrifice, taking the darkness for regina!!! like, twitter and tumblr very much existed at this point! the showrunners + writers very much knew swan queen was a ship and knew exactly what they were doing here and just because i know it was deliberate queerbaiting doesn’t make me immune. adam horowitz and edward kitsis when i catch you— i’m so glad too that you went on the same rant i go on every time i rewatch the finale bc it pissed me off so bad that they marketed it as “the villains win” when it was just a roleswap au. i wanted to see the actual “what if the villains won” au so bad!!! and then it was just a straight-up roleswap that wasn’t even thought through very well!!! though regina (or really just lana, i guess, bc you’re very right about this just being a new guy with regina’s face) in the bandit outfit is soooo hot so i can’t actually be as mad as i want to be. and also because emma being the one who’s able to get through to regina always sends me spiraling i also very much loved the way you pointed out that emma gets to have very little actual agency in the series, because you’re so right, and also it makes the fact that what she chooses to DO with the moments of agency that she DOES have is protect regina just. so much more meaningful. (sorry, final aside, i know this is already super long, but can we talk about the insane sexual tension between regina and maleficent during the flashback where regina first went to her castle, because oh my GOD the once-over and “you’re lucky i already had breakfast” line sniped me from orbit. i VERY much agree with you about wishing they’d gone more maleficent-focused in s4 instead of splitting all that time with ursula and cruella, and it’s always so frustrating that none of that is ever even relevant again) anyway. loved the video!! and i am SO looking forward to hearing you talk about s5, because that was the season where *i* noped out when it was airing. the hell arc was my final straw (though i did sit down last summer and finally watch the last few seasons)
Alix
2024-07-25 23:34:56 +0000 UTCClicked my heels and went “yippee!”when I saw this posted!
Clown from Clown Town
2024-07-25 23:13:49 +0000 UTCHey was Ursula not the benevolent goddess of the Sea in season 3? There was the whole thing where Regina disguised herself as Ursula to trick Ariel? Is this a different Ursula?
Roman Lanslide
2024-07-25 22:34:43 +0000 UTCI didn't need another infidelity arc, and I ESPECIALLY didn't need it with my main man Will Scarlet. Belle could've cheated on her husband with any other man I stg.
Roman Lanslide
2024-07-25 22:19:31 +0000 UTCI had the same issue as well
Lucy Rhodes
2024-07-25 22:11:12 +0000 UTCDo the charmings know abt the dark curse before the whole removing Emma's potential for darkness thing? I could understand wanting to make sure ur prophecy child doesn't turn out evil. Still verrrry very messed up
Slime Enby
2024-07-25 21:28:56 +0000 UTCIs Cruella's inclusion in this season wild? Yes Did I love it because Victoria Smurfit knew the assignment and chewed every bit of scenery she could? Absolutely yes.
HarperHex
2024-07-25 19:59:15 +0000 UTCFinally!!! These things are like crack for me! You are the best!
Kazran
2024-07-25 19:56:14 +0000 UTCIt’s a different curse these days! You keep your memory but you can’t come back!
Haley Whipjack
2024-07-25 19:37:57 +0000 UTCWait, I'm confused, why's Regina expecting a text from Robin? Like, the entire reason he's gone is due to the complications around memory loss when people leave, is he somehow immune to that?
Stephi Anne-with-an-E
2024-07-25 19:33:34 +0000 UTCOk but Regina in the full Evil Queen outfit from Disney’s Snow White would slay. She’s the only character in the show who could pull that off
Agumame
2024-07-25 19:29:53 +0000 UTCOmg this is the best birthday present ever
ClaireOnline
2024-07-25 18:36:54 +0000 UTCNot rude! Good to know, I knew I had audio work to do and it’s good to know where the problems are, after sitting with the videos for so long I’m sometimes pretty blind to things
Haley Whipjack
2024-07-25 18:20:26 +0000 UTChey, before i ramble about the show, the audio is pretty quiet, I'm watching this in headphones on the highest setting as opposed to somewhere in the middle. little bit in the beginning feels the most quiet but 4a and 4b are perfectly evenly quiet. I swear I'm not trying to be rude just wanted to report on that before it goes on YouTube
Rey
2024-07-25 17:55:00 +0000 UTCIt’s wild how much Will’s behavior aligns perfectly with his pre-spinoff self, plus it gives so much actual justification for why he has the drawing of the Red Queen in his apartment that he was throwing darts at. Instead of him having MAYBE a day with his memories back, he had like 2 years of added resentment before being whisked away by the rabbit after season 4
Heather Reid
2024-07-25 17:46:17 +0000 UTCYou say it was the last straw but for me, if I made it through the frozen season, there was not going to be anything that was gonna shake me
ashraven
2024-07-25 17:30:56 +0000 UTCCruella !!! My belived
Sasha
2024-07-25 17:27:00 +0000 UTCYou have no idea how honoured I am that my Mickey Mouse thing got a shout out 😅 it has been rotting my brain for YEARS!!
Billie Turner
2024-07-25 17:24:40 +0000 UTCSeems like hetero gals being hetero pals to me🤷♀️
Christina Tzipora
2024-07-25 16:45:57 +0000 UTCBoth, but I ended up skipping ahead because I had already watched the Frozen arc. I noticed it most in the scene where you talk about Marco and Regina
Evan Linden
2024-07-25 16:44:09 +0000 UTCcould mean anything!!!
Haley Whipjack
2024-07-25 16:39:42 +0000 UTCin the very first bit, or the new evil queen first bit!
Haley Whipjack
2024-07-25 16:39:30 +0000 UTCFellas, is it gay to sacrifice all you've ever known and your own morality itself to save the woman you platonically share a child with ?
Christina Tzipora
2024-07-25 16:25:05 +0000 UTCdon't worry about it not being just on patreon for long I'm just excited for new content!!!
Midnightrose
2024-07-25 16:22:12 +0000 UTCI'm so excited! The sound is a bit muffled at the beginning though
Evan Linden
2024-07-25 16:06:30 +0000 UTCI’m sat.
nix
2024-07-25 16:02:29 +0000 UTC
