Star Trek: The Original Series - "The Conscience of the King" Full Reaction!
Added 2023-10-22 17:00:05 +0000 UTC
Watch along with me using your own copy of the episode! :)
Thanks very much!
bunnytails
2023-10-30 04:15:08 +0000 UTC
I don't have anything to contribute that hasn't already been covered in other comments, but just want to say thanks for doing these, Bunnytails. This series paired with your vibe and POV is a real treat. Wishing you a speedy recovery!
Michael
2023-10-27 06:21:04 +0000 UTC
I did like it more the second time around when I was editing it. It's not a bad episode at all. :) That's happened with a few episodes so far. (Mudd's Women and Charlie X)
bunnytails
2023-10-26 03:54:38 +0000 UTC
I will miss Janice. She's one of my favorite characters. :(
bunnytails
2023-10-26 03:53:33 +0000 UTC
It is pretty crazy to think that when Kodos said if the supplies didn't arrive before expected he would be a hero for saving 4k people he was probably right. 8k people could have died but also killing 4k people is hard to justify. I keep going back and forth on whether he made the right call or not.
bunnytails
2023-10-26 03:52:57 +0000 UTC
Yes, I will be watching all of season 2 and 3! And the movies :D
bunnytails
2023-10-26 03:40:51 +0000 UTC
Yeah when editing this episode for YT I enjoyed it more than I did the first time around. That's not the first time it's happened with one of these episodes, too. I can see why people have watched this series over and over again.
bunnytails
2023-10-26 03:39:56 +0000 UTC
lol Is this a thing that exists somewhere? :D
bunnytails
2023-10-26 03:38:09 +0000 UTC
Yeah, I really like Janice and it's sad that she won't be on anymore episodes. :(
bunnytails
2023-10-26 03:37:47 +0000 UTC
This is the only other episode where Lieutenant Riley was in. Thankfully, he didn't sing. I think this might also be the last episode Yeoman Rand appeared in. I won't go into why she left the show. But Grace Lee Whitney does ultimately return to Star Trek in a couple of movies and an episode of Voyage.
Carlos Stevens
2023-10-23 04:22:12 +0000 UTC
This episode is one of my favorites. It is well acted and thought provoking. You never think the sorts of things descibed in this episode could happen until governors start locking you in your home for your "protection".
Mike_G
2023-10-23 00:40:54 +0000 UTC
Hah, I always thought Shakespearean Star Trek started with TNG. A surprise, but a welcome one! I don't think I ever watched this episode. Nichel Nichols singing was wonderful. Wow! It's always nice to see her doing something other than informing Kirk that they're being hailed.
I hope... you watch some season 2... most of the best episodes in the series are in it.
SuicuneSol
2023-10-22 22:36:58 +0000 UTC
I've also liked this episode. Fine acting all around -- esp. from the guest actors.
Nowadays, I have a new appreciation for episodes like this (called bottle episodes) because there is a minimum of visual effects and action sequences. This episode stands on the strength of it's story, dialogue, the actors. and director/crew making it work.
Ron
2023-10-22 21:47:02 +0000 UTC
I came into this one not having a clear recollection of the episode's specifics it had been so long since I'd seen it. I remembered what it was about generally and kinda just figured it was going to be another "yeah it's fine" situation. I really enjoyed it more than I thought I would though. I'm a sucker for some over-the-top dramatic tv acting and the way they conducted the entire episode as something of play itself just hit all my buttons. Mystery, betrayal, murder, romance, somewhat hammy and overwritten dialogue all with my favourite crew aboard the Enterprise? Yes the fuck please.
You're right that some of the identification stuff surrounding Kodos doesn't really track, but I think it's the episode's way of, again, being a little overly dramatic. We have all these mechanical checks telling us it is indeed Kodos, but at the end of the day the only way Kirk can potentially kill him for what he's done is somehow just look into his soul or some such and "know" that it's him.
I think you nailed it with Lenore's memory thing. She was definitely a little wacky but I think part of it was also the trauma from having killed her own father and it pushed her over the edge.
Anyhoo, I'll just sign off by saying that if the next one is what I think it is (we're still doing the production order, yes?) then I'm kinda hyped since it's a personal favourite of mine, although I don't know how other folks feel about it. Catch you next time either way👍
Preaching to the Horse's Mouth
2023-10-22 20:34:41 +0000 UTC
You cannot possibly enjoy Shakespeare until you have heard him in the original Klingon.
deskmerc
2023-10-22 18:42:02 +0000 UTC
I've always liked this episode -- it's both different in how it does an old topic of a Shakespeare play, and also with that Star Trek flair to it. And this is really the episode where Kirk started to gain that reputation as a player -- deserved or not.
I hope you enjoyed your time with Janice Rand, as this was her last episode. It's still debated to this day why she was released, but both Whitney and Roddenberry have said it came down to costs and creative differences in how to use her. Also she was sexually assaulted by someone in the production staff around this time, and she refused to name who did it, even many years later when she talked about it at a con I saw her at about 20 years ago. She had been written into three more scripts, but since she was now gone new people were brought in to play the role.
I had forgotten that McCoy made a reference to Spock's 'father's race being conquered'. Spock would go on to say in a later episode that 'in the collective memory of the Vulcan people, they have never been conquered'. So that's either a clear error on McCoy's part or McCoy is assuming a distant past in which Vulcan was taken over. I'm more inclined to say the former.
Greg Polander
2023-10-22 17:13:01 +0000 UTC