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Dragon Ball Z Kai TFC 103 (Full)

Dragon Ball Z Kai TFC 103 (Full)

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Videl and Goten share the same VA. It's a great tidbit when they interact with one another. Goten going SSJ from sparring with Chi-Chi is such classic Toriyama humor. I think outside of Frieza she's definitely the transformations biggest hater.

Shadowmist909

I honestly think my favorite part of the buu saga (and the movies during it) are the dynamic between Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Videl. Also, Krillin and 18 being the best couple outside of... another that might come.

LongJohnGray

Im pretty sure the big idea is that Vegeta did state with Nappa in early DBZ, that Saiyan-Hybrids are capable to wield much more power than pure blooded ones, which we've seen proof because of Gohan and Future Trunks. I don't remember if the episode was filler or not.

Strongestbubble

The flashback actually makes Goten look very weak since Chichi's power level is maybe 200 if she's seriously highballed and she was giving him a hard time and wasn't even injured when he hit her with an uncontrolled 50 times power boost. I guess fighting with Trunks got Goten to the point where his strength can shock Gohan. He actually didn't hit Gohan once with the rocks and didn't land a hit during their brief sparring match. He benefited from the shonen trope of the weaker opponent's surprise power making the stronger opponent go on the defensive for a short time despite being the stronger of the two.

Gary Willig

I wouldn’t go that far lowkey (my reasoning contains spoilers) but you are 100% right about it being a multiplier. Like how you are saying regarding all super saiyans not being equal, it’s completely dependent on how strong the specific character is in their base form

Tal Rubin

There really isnt a good explanation for gotens super saiyan besides toriyama being a 80 year old man inside the body for a 40 year old man and him wanting to get the story over with as quickly as possible, so he can retire and draw video game characters for the next 15 years

GodUsopp

Yes Karlil, ever since you reacted to the 18 kiss scene, ive been waiting for this day!!!!!! Mwahahahaha!!! Also 17 & 18 are both human with android enhancements

ShaquanVirse

Heres the thing people often forget. Super Saiyan a multiplier. Goten is far weaker than you think. Gohan on Namek is whooping the ass of SSJ Goten

ShaquanVirse

The issue with the "androids" is that they are all just cyborgs lol, Androids are robots that look human, Cyborgs are humans with robot parts i believe

GodUsopp

Or is was that the more of the those cells the easier it is to go super saiyan. I don’t recall which of the two it is

Tal Rubin

I always had the sperm theory as well but awhile back there was an interview (this isn’t a spoiler because it doesn’t get mentioned at all in the show) where Toriyama talked about the specific cells a saiyan has (S cells) and the more of those cells the more potential I believe. And we know from the saiyan saga that a saiyan/human hybrid creates a powerful warrior

Tal Rubin

Yeah I (Taylor) had never really thought about it either LOL

TKOhhh

I agree with Karli there, while I’ve grown to love the Goten SSJ joke, I still think it devalues the form itself. It’s never explained as to why Goten is so strong. Many of us chalk it up to training during peace time + genetics.

Snazzyway


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