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Posssible Patreon Revamp?

Hello Patrons!

You know I always like to be totally honest with you, well the Patreon has kindof been on a slow downward trajectory for a while and we've now reached a point where it's not 'imminent danger' but 'orange warning light.' Like, we'll be fine, the show's fine, but it's made me wonder what I can do to maybe revamp the Patreon a bit! So, are there any changes you'd like to see or insights you can offer me?

The most common reason for cancelling pledges is 'My Financial Situation Changed,' which, fair - not much I can really do about that! But maybe you can offer me some advice?

Here are some specific questions I have:

All the best,

Abi XXx

Comments

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Michael Tardibuono

I signed up for nebula mainly just to get early access to your vids but that's the ONLY reason I signed up aside from watching the prince and draculas ex girlfriend. After that I just cancelled and came here because it was cheaper and I'm trying not to overspend on stuff.

アーレン キム

hi abi! i joined as a $2/mo member to demonstrate my support for your channel. i don't ever really subscribe to patreons based on perks, though i have subscribed to an artist's $15 tier which mailed out physical artwork to those patrons. i tend to give more money to youtubers who seem less-known and under-funded. i guess i had assumed your channel was quite big and you were floating fine. and btw, higher production does not equal higher quality for me! for example, your tiktok video (while the script was of course of high quality) didn't need to be on that set, shot in that way for you to have earned my patreon subscription. i value philosophy tube because of the well-researched, funny scripts, the theatrical segments (such as videos like "data" and your bit in the judith butler video where you talk to yourself pre-transition). i also watch because you are an amazing presenter. best to ya! thank you for trusting the audience by inviting our opinions! 💗

Birdie

I just signed up after your 2024 recap because it sucks to hear you lost subs and i really want to support your work, and ive meant to follow for a while

Fable

Signed up to Patreon just so that the youtube series keeps going. Not really interacting with Patreon-only content, so a subscriber like me is very likely to drop off when financial situation changes even a little. Something that'd keep me hooked - substantive, exclusive content, no matter how short. Maybe some - "hey, I just read this, it's super interesting, may not find its way onto the full youtube video, but I wanted to briefly discuss it" type videos. Video quality and production value need not be high for it to command my attention.

Utkarsh Gaur

I'm joined recently because I want to support the work in general and you listed this platform as the alternative to YouTube. Not interested in Perks much. I'd like to support more than I am but money is tight. I've been disabled since birth and have close ones who have dealt with various aspects of lgbtq right. The point is I appreciate your perspective and would like some opportunity to engage with you and your supporters more. But I also mindful of comments you made about distinct characteristics of parasocial relationships for better and worse. So I'm just not sure how that could be facilitated constructively. Sorry to ramble but it's just that I have so many things would be very refreshing to discuss with you but that would create a lot of demands on your side

Darrell Price

I would personally love to have a discord for this group. Would we a great place to discuss ideas and such!

NIK-V8PES boi

Joined on here 'cause YT algorithm threw you up after I'd been paid (and had seen some of your previous works) so was in a position to be able to cough up. Gonna be quitting then restarting Monday (28th Oct) to drop it into position for recurring after payday, but was delighted and amused to find out you're UK same as me (am Staff's/West Mid's border dweller). Coughed up 'cause ❤️ seeing someone sayin' stuff I wanna get "out there" in a way that don't look too dissimilar to how I'd wanna look, without me having to expend the energy to do so. So THANK YOUs. 😘

7rin

I just signed up because I saw you post this on other platforms. I don't really care about the benefits (even though they're cool), I signed up because your work is very important to me and I want you to be able to continue to do your work. I'm only patron to one other creator for the same reason: that I fear they won't be able to keep going without patrons and I really want them to. Also, I only joined at the lowest tier and I won't really be considering moving it up until I'm done with university and earning more money. If I had the money, I would gladly give much more.

moon

I just joined as a patron, and saw this; when I joined I was considering the book offer, but it was more than I could afford to pledge, at least at the moment. However, if does turn out to be a not very effective patreon reward and gets replaced, I hope it becomes available elsewhere for purchase, for folks who are interested. Maybe it is and I couldn't find it?

Tiri

I don't know if I would increase my tier anyway, but I don't pledge in order to get shout-outs or my name in the credits, so even if I think about increasing my pledge, the fact that any tier above $2 does that discourages me. (maybe it's optional? idk; the membership page doesn't say that it is)

nh

I moved my pledge up after watching an episode I liked, and I might move it down if there's little to no activity and I need to start cutting back because I'm not saving enough money. I don't pay too much attention to the tiers except for when the minimum tier is a bit too high compared to the amount of time I engage with the creator's work.

Michael Tardibuono

I'm still a big fan, I canceled my pledge due to money issues (which are resolved) and I'm planning to re-up once I clear the debt I took on during those few months.

Jenny Gamage

Doing shorter videos where you talk about current issues (from a philosophical lens) or talking about old videos to see if your opinion has changed or stayed the same could be really cool. I'm subscribed to Contrapoints LOVE her tangents, keeps me paying. This could be a great way to add additional content without it needing to be so formatted/artistic and gives you room to update your thoughts if needed.

Ginny

This

C2

I was a paying member and moved to free when money got tight . Ive actually forgotten I was a free member since I watch on Nebula, so maybe a reminder to check your Patreon level would kick some of us to switch to paid?

SigmundFrood

Hi, I feel like we haven't really finished our conversation last time, but maybe you feel otherwise and that's fine. I doubt the drop in patreon is because of the issues I raised. I think lower tiers could definitely help. I also think generating more content could increase engagement. Maybe short videos about more specific, lighter issues, like the philosophy of a single book or film, or a revisit of your older videos is something you could squeeze in?

Tamar Yarkony

I don't tend to support creators for the perks and extras. I just believe it's the right thing to do to support them financially because they put in a lot of work to make high-quality things that I value personally and regularly engage with. I don't tend to check video descriptions, so when Patreon links are just listed there I may not notice them. I did like in the NHS trans healthcare video when you bluntly promo'd the patreon—I always like when people are straightforward and honest with things like this. I'm still at the $2 tier because I try to directly support as many creators as I can, which winds up with me giving more people less money. I would increase my pledges across the board if my income increased. I generally don't ever reduce patreon contributions; I start low and increase only once I'm sure I can. If I no longer engaged with a creator's work at all, I might cancel my contribution altogether, but I've only done that once in many years—I currently have creators I don't engage with much anymore whom I still support since the low-and-broad approach is sustainable for me financially.

naomio

>the Patreon has kindof been on a slow downward trajectory for a while I think you are talking about YOUR slice of Patreon, but so far as the total platform I agree. I'd rather support my peeps more directly then whatever cut these guys take from you and I hate silo-ed service (IE I don't want to login to xyz and abc and nmo to find new things from the people I enjoy) >If you're a free member, is there anything that could persuade you to pledge? I'm lazy. I should be at $2, I just didn't click the button. I'll do it. I don't want anything for it, just that you can keep doing the amazing work you do and putting it out there for people to find for free. And I'm probably not going to throw more then a few bucks your way, although you deserve it. But, I'm no whale and I'd rather toss $2 at 25 creators I want to support then $50 at 1 and get a goodie. I do want you to do a discord. It doesn't make me more or less likely to subscribe and I would prefer it exist for free for anyone (unless putting it behind a paywall helps dissuade trolls and bots.) Anyway, some dumb fast thoughts from a fan. I hope they help.

cs

I don’t really ever use tumblr.

Alen

I think I also signed up for your patreon after the vid "I emailed my doctor 133 times" (I've also watched the vid twice, it's impactful stuff). I liked seeing my name in the rolling end credits but other than that I mostly pledged to support, "voting with my wallet" style. My engagement with Patreon has been mostly getting hyped by the BTS pics as a sneak peak into upcoming episodes

Nikolay Zhlebinkov

I joined cuz you yelled at me in the video, "I emailed my doctor 133 times" and told me to do so. So, maybe yelling at people more would help.

100 Percent Legal Penguin Tender

There's a glut of stuffy professors, fiery professors, lectures on tape, and folks who masquerade as thinkers out there. Your combination of content, style, narrative voice (literally and figuratively), and your ability to ground topics in personal experience is unique and valuable. So, I joined. Like some others, I don't join Patreon feeds for the perks. I have little clue about your overall business model, so I am loathe to offer any advice in that area. More "dissecting / skewering the posers" content might be a draw, but it could get old. It's not like you'd ever run out of posers to skewer and/or dissect. Collaborations with other creators can create new exposure (and, I'm pretty sure, all LegalEagle followers love you ;-). At the risk of (shudder) politics, I'd be fascinated to see what a meeting of minds with Cornel West would be like. I'm not sure if I've directly shared any Patreon links in my social media feeds so far or what would make me feel strongly enough to do that, but I am happy to share high-quality content that includes Patreon links or mentions. My diversified portfolio of Patreon feeds (geez, pretentious much?) is at a comfortable level where I can continue through most foreseeable, financial circumstances. If I ever need to make cuts, PhilosophyTube will not be anywhere near the top of the list.

RouxTheDay

I'm a 15+ member since 2022 and I really enjoy being able to watch PT episodes before anyone else. I can only guess, but I can imagine canceling one's Patreon subscription if say, Nebula subscribers get access to episodes even earlier than we do. I haven't canceled mine because I admire your work and want to contribute, but it would be nice to get early access for Patrons episodes at the same time that the ep drops on Nebula.

Diana

Oh I love that idea ❤️

Ava

I joined because I believe the world is better with your content in it. I upped my membership because I wanted to pass on my good fortune (I got a raise). I don't have many followers on social platforms, but I share your content with friends (because I think they'll enjoy it) and colleagues (because I think they will benefit from some clearer thinking 🤣).

m-

I joined your patreon years ago because your work in youtube was so valuable to me that I wanted to contribute to the effort of letting you keep on doing this for a living. This is the reason why I've subscribed to all the creators I support here, it's not about the perks so much, it's strictly about paying a small fraction of your "salary" because I want your content or art to be created. What helps me sign up in general is lower tiers and sometimes per-show tiers. This is how I can subscribe and support several creators without it burdening on my finances. What drives me to sign up is the knowledge that my contribution is probably essential for the continuation of a show or a podcast. One-time contributions can also be great for me since I can sometimes give a little more (the superchats would be great for that, only they're not supported where I live) As for perks, I'm not into those too much to be honest. Some creators share more thoughts and discussions, and those are nice sometimes but I never "conditioned" my subscription on those, especially since I know they can take so much time and effort to maintain. I am a fan of anything that I can download for further reading! So if I value a creator and a subscription will let me read more from that brain - it mighy encourage me to subscribe if I am financially able.

MarselCat

"Would I ever share another creator's patreon?" I have and do, with Dr. Fatima's patreon. Over there she's been doing a small reading group which has been crazy interesting--as it's valuable to hear the perspectives of all the really well-educated people in her audience. Currently we're reading "Against Method" which is a difficult text about the history and philosophy of science. I think that Philosophy Tube would be a great space for something similar.

Nathaniel Bookout

I'm a lifetime nebula subscriber... And after a while I realised it wasn't fair that I still get to enjoy all these amazing videos from you for years to come... But you get nothing from me for it. So I subscribed to your Patreon as well

Avalon Hamakei

For me, I signed up because I believe in your mission and genuinely love and appreciate the professional creativity and intellectual content that is conistantly delivered here. A patron of the arts, as it were. Yes, I did start at a lower tier, and have slowly upped it over time to my current level, both due to the increase in funds on my end and a want to continue to see content like this thrive and grow. Especially for certain videos like Catch-22 NHS, Transhumanism, and the dual-you video really showed your creativity and passion for the field. You've never let us down, and I hope to see even more amazing work in the future for as long as you'd like to do so. In regards to getting others to join up, I do share where possible, and even have a Nebula subscription as well. The cross-creator works that I see over time, both in lending voices and appearance (the Identiteaze premiere was amazing to attend, btw), can also help with that. If you'd want others that I know to join up, you'd need a contradictory level of both longer form videos with deeper, more advanced-level content, and shorter, more bite-sized videos that could be consumed on the road/before bed/shorter attentions. And, as for restructuring individual tiers on the whole, if I could wave a magic wand, I'd like to see even more BTS stuff on the process of just how an individual episode's made. Though this is does come with the caveat that it would cause more overhead in terms of time and energy, so it's just a wish at best. And, in regards to the $40 tier, if one's unable to make a stream due to scheduling, it somewhat invalidates the tier in and of itself.

David Demma

I’m just here because your work matters to me and I want to support it. As far as perks, I like some of the extra videos on other Patreons like Hbomberguy. Maybe some extra videos here? Like mostly BTS or extra length cuts. Tho since my support isn’t about perks I honestly haven’t checked if you’ve been doing that, whoops. If you find you need to ask people to share on socials I would do that.

Sequoia Alexander

I promise I don’t mean this in a harsh way, but because of social media engagement, you are not always top of mind. I know some people lol let’s call them older people see promoting things like Patreon as groveling. I see it more as a Renaissance era return to the artist/patron relationship. You are obviously a renaissance human being. Don’t worry about people leaving Patreon, think about bringing more people to Patreon. My suggestion would be doing a Patreon commercial for social media and I hate calling it a commercial, but it’s plain language I can think of. And also figure out how to do, some collaborations with other artists. There’s a half a dozen marketing words for individuals that leave a service. I would never accuse you of pandering to keep people, but you have such an amazing outreach to drive engagement, I do realize it’s more work, but I think that is your best way forward. Especially now for someone involved with dragons! I’m a designer that’s worked in several marketing departments. Please reach out to me if you want to have a further conversation about this. Sorry for the long message! But because of your message, I’m going to resubscribe right now. I sincerely appreciate everything you do for free education to us slowly masses.

EMB-HM

Never did get round to answering this post! 😂 I was at free tier until recently when I got a bit of financial leeway to go for the $5 tier as I've always enjoyed your work and wanted to help whatever way I can. On that note, Abi, I'd like to thank you for being so open about your experience with the NHS. Your anger in that video lit a fire in me and finally got me to stop dithering and to actually apply to college with an aim to do nursing. Ideally I'd like to specialise in gender care but not sure if that's even an option. Looking into it, for sure though. Long story short: love your work Abi, and thanks for everything!

Francis Farrell

I am a fan of physical knick knacks (it's my crow brain ). Like 2 to 3 sticker with illustrations of characters and themes of recent videos. It could be a middle to higher tier thing send out every half a year or sth. Posting about the designs would both create interest in the videos and the Patreon.

Emithemagical

Oh, also, I sign up to patreons at a max level that includes recurring perks or recognition, but not usually one time benefits. I only sign up for folks that I watch regularly because I feel like I should pay creators for the content I watch. I also got a lifetime nebula subscription through your link, so thanks for that! If you had a recurring thing that did not require me to be online for a Livestream, I would likely give more. Like, maybe occasional copies of your cliffsnotes of books you study or something, because I wish I had time to read more philosophy books with little kids running around and climbing all over me!

Ultraczar

So, something I would enjoy is, in addition to your other livestreams, maybe answering questions on a kind of Philosophy Office Hours. Where you could answer more targeted questions from a certain tier level submitted over the course of a couple months. I know Michael Burns over at Wisecrack does this occasionally, but I like getting hot takes from philosophy inclined YouTubers. So yeah, maybe some kind of FAQ or Office Hours would be good! Also, unrelated, but I've enjoyed Adam Conover's interviews for Factually and think you being on there would be amazing!

Ultraczar

I joined for the same reason I pay for podcasts. At a certain point this channel became valuable enough that I wanted to help make sure it stayed up. I can't give much but I can give some.

Grif 07

I pledged after the Identity video, because I think you said you were worried about losing support and I loved your content and wanted to support you. In general, with Patreon and other creator subscription models, I tend to pledge not to obtain specific rewards (although getting my name in a video is a nice ego boost) but because I like the creator’s overall “project” and want to support their general career as a creator. I don’t mind if some of the content isn’t of interest, although if a creator really changed course I might decide to stop pledging. I don’t post a lot on social media so I don’t see myself sharing a creator’s Patreon there (and frankly I doubt it would be very effective because I’m not exactly an influencer, lol) Also, reading others comments has been really interesting - I hadn’t thought about potential conflicts between paying for Nebula vs. pledging on Patreon but I can definitely see how people would prefer to do one but not the other if the content you get is more or less the same. I wonder how other creators who use both platforms navigate it?

Audrey Michael

I went back to school so my income did legitimately change. That being said, I had a few patrons that I continued at the five dollar level. One of them was naddpod, whose behind the scenes “short rests” I feel like I can’t live without

RebeccaC

So many folks here just out to support you. I guess if that's the case then there isn't much to do to guarantee an increase in revenue. Perhaps if we had a financial plan shared that asks for a specific amount, we could collectively know how much is required each month. What's extra and when it's short. We could work towards the goal each month perhaps?

Gereiam Gereiam

If I had less money for whatever reason, you might be high on the list of subscriptions to stop. Why? Not because of the quality or number of videos! I really enjoy philosophy tube. Weirdly, it's because you seem to be doing well? Patreon, to me, is not just about supporting a specific kind of content, but also about supporting a creator in general. You've been posting a lot about all the cool stuff you've been doing (acting, writing, producing), which makes me think "great! She does not need my money anymore!". Your post made me realize: Abigail might be doing great, but philosophy tube might not. These are two separate things. Perhaps more people need this insight to stay onboard? Also, saying "we need more money" often works. It has made me think about upping my tier.

F. Kruidhof

Well, I skimmed this post, and it made me increase my pledge, so there's that... 😅

Alex Riemer

I don't subscribe to any Patreons for perks, I just do to support creators. However, I am also subscribed to a LOT of Patreons and my monthly $150 bill is a lot higher than I'd like. I will occasionally go through the list and try to decide who I can drop, but when evaluating on an individual basis I can't bring myself to remove them. I've been thinking for a while that I might need to just unsubscribe from everyone, but I know I'll just start adding people back. I don't know how many folks are in a similar place as me where we want to support creators but there are also way too many people we want to support, but that's where I'm at.

emelsi

Why might I increase my pledge? – Because better personal financial circumstances allow it. Why did I sign up to the Philosophy Tube Pareon? – Purely to support the channel. It's something I want to exist, and to continue existing. Supporting financially seems like a concrete way to contribute to that. I rarely have the time to engage with the extras/benefits on Patreon (BTS pics, early access, etc) and would probably not miss them if they were gone. They're not the reason I pledge; for me, they're a minor perk at most.

Marcus Smith

Video teasers would be a good incentive! Hbomb and F.D often show partial and/or rough cuts early to Patrons. It might also be cool if you did more unscripted content, like maybe short reviews of books you're reading for research.

Mobius Scarf

I am not subscribing for any perks. I liked your content, found it educational, and felt its fair to pay. Like I also donate to Wikipedia for the same reason but dont expect to get any different contents. I think some churn in subscribers is just normal as peoples interest changes, and their priorities change. It must be tough to present educational material that is competing with tiktoks and other sensational style videos. I think a better statistic would be 'people who subscribe, how many people actually watch it'. If you can look who is watching (and what they are watching), then perhaps that can help with above questions.

Arthur Rabatin

Me too, Abi's voice was so startling and commanding, I jumped to sign on Patreon.

Erica Peterson

I signed up some time ago because I have always found your work educational and creative, so I kept coming back to rewatch a lot of your videos – a sure sign that there was something there I wanted to re-experience. I wanted to back you directly, not YouTube. I was never interested in Patreon perks, so if I ever pledged up, it would be purely to provide more support to the kind of work you do. Unfortunately, as I live in a country with a different standard of life than many Western European countries, the lowest pledge has been all I could afford. I used to have Nebula, too, and loved it but job insecurity forced me to cancel. I am waiting for my finances to stabilize so I can support you and other great creators even more.

Maiden of Stories

Hey Abi, I cancelled all but one of my Patreon Memberships this month due to a change in my finances (in France, income taxes arrive in September). I do intend to re-pledge as soon as I can (which will probably be after Christmas). To answer the questions that were relevant to me : - When I up any pledge for any creator, it's generally, that there is a specific project I want to back. I can up it for a few months because they are working on this or that, and I know/hope a few more $ will make a difference. - I signed up to your Patreon because I wanted to help develop your YouTube channel. The high production value and the multiple successes you've enjoyed recently might be giving off the vibe you don't need the financial patronage anymore...? Between The Prince, DEx and Game of Thrones, people might be feeling their money would help someone smaller more...? (Congrats, by the way) -I've shared that I use Patreon with friends and family and people think I'm silly to give money to strangers... So, I can't help there. Take care, and congratulations again for all the wins this year!!!

Diana.H.

Free member here - I subscribed to Nebula through your link instead of joining the Patreon. Your work is outstanding though and I want to see it continue, so I might have to consider double spending <3

Simon

I just moved my pledge up - largely, I didn't realize I was on the lowest tier! I signed up when I was still a master's student and then just never thought much about it after that. I think having something posted that's exclusive to higher patreon tiers can help get people to up their pledge, but ofc finding a way to do that without increasing your workload is tricky.

Bethany E. Toma

I am a free member now but I was previously part of a paid tier and, at the risk of some backlash, I can say that the biggest reason for going to the free tier is because you are so successful now and I wanted to support other smaller creators who are far more reliant on their Patreon supporters for their art. Fairly certain your video on "Data" is what originally inspired me to join the Patreon crew (still one of my favorite artistic works on the subject). I think that sort of original composition can definitely win over new folks. I have sent several of your videos to my friends privately and some of them are now your patrons, but I do not post publicly to any social media whatsoever.

ObediahJellyFish

Regarding the questions: 1. I moved up only one time in the initial month as a big late "Thank you" for all the work you created and I consumed for free up to this point. 2. Not applicable 3. Some financial leeway and the realization how much the videos made me think about stuff. 4. I do not really use social media (except YouTube and Spotify I guess) anymore, so the question is not really applicable, but I recommend your videos quite often to other folks in person. 5. Dunno 6.-7. Not applicable

Tim Cech

Hi so I’m someone who did actually cancel recently because my financial situation changed. Honestly there’s not a lot I can say other than the economy is bad times apparently. When one reaches the point of measuring prices in the number of meals this would buy, it’s kinda time to cut some expenses. Personally, I never really used the Patreon benefits even when I had them, it was mostly a “I support this show” sort of thing. I’ll probably become a paying patron again if my financial situation ever improves, and the deciding factor has more to do with “Is Philosophy Tube still a show I watch” more than any benefits on Patreon.

Chaos Gremlin Indigo

Personally I've considered cancelling because I could use your Nebula link for the same price, not because I don't support you. Are your contributions from that quite a bit less?

Braden Alm

not sure if this is possible here (or even a wise thought), but I throw money at things when I can spare it. If their was a way to track the total given versus only the pledges? I know you need ongoing capital, but perhaps some recognition for long term contributors?

Dave Buchanan

And that Tangent series is top-notch, imo. I wasn’t a patron of hers until she announced that.

Austen G

I pledged because your content teaches me about things I didn’t even know I wanted to learn. Sure, there’s the philosophy itself, but so much of your content teaches me about myself, and how I understand my own identity. Your work treats me like I’m an intelligent human being who doesn’t know the content, and not like I’m unintelligent because I don’t know. I know that in my case, sometimes it can be hard to go through the back catalog if I’m looking for a quick primer on a specific philosopher or school of thought. Would there be any value in assembling more short-form Philosophy Tube; a Philosophy Straw, if you will? Something like a teaser for the show, that grabs interest and links to the longer-form material? I’ll do my best to keep supporting as long as I can, especially if it helps others learn at no cost to them.

Dr. J

I pledged because I like the content and want to support your efforts.

FredShoey

I would love to pledge more, but I'm broke. I signed up because I love your work and I want to support it (and you). I'm not sure what motivates someone beyond that. I do share your vids on my socials, I'm just not on socials very much. The tiers honestly don't matter to me because I can only afford the lowest one no matter what. If I were flush, then I might care, but I probably never will be. As with most things in my life, it's not about what I want to do, it's about what I can afford to do. If I had a bunch more disposable income, I'd throw more money at you (and others), but as you point out, there's not much you can do about that. I hope you can keep making your awesome content, and I hope there are richer folks out there willing to support it!

Dave

I...just joined. This is second fastest I have ever decided to support a creator. I have a hard time watching - what is produced here is so good, and so thought provoking, I have had to frequently pause, think, go back, watch again...and it's wonderful. I did not have any idea that philosophy encompassed so many things that I struggle to talk about with other people. So, I don't have any idea how to update patreon experience, because I'm new to it. I'm in the US, and I'm watching "I Emailed My Doctor 133 Times: The Crisis In British Healthcare." I have seen people argue against public healthcare HERE because of the wait times THERE. This is the most in depth explanation I've seen. Here is the tragic tale away I'm getting so far - Britain spends less per person in healthcare, people have a right to healthcare - and still go without. The US medical system and patients spend more money per person and gets worse outcomes - basically, people are not getting care. I would have to ask my trans friends about the specific difficulty with getting treatment. I do know that a friend of mine was a driver for someone who had some form of gender affirming surgery in Canada - instead of here in the US. So there HAVE to be issues that prevent trans people from getting care here, too. This is just ONE of the videos that have given me this much to think about - and potentially much to do. More people need to see what is here.

Steve Marouchoc

This is very similar to what I would have answered. I'm a free member and mainly, I don't feel that I'm missing a ton of extra content from not pledging.

ctegirl892

Knowing that my contribution means "high production values" is actually not very motivating at all. But hearing that my contributions pay for fair wages for artists of a variety of sorts (including yourself!) motivated the hell out of me! They seem like they should mean the same thing but it was an episode where you specifically called out the labor involved and that patreon money compensated these people.. that got me. Which is embarrassing but true. An associated thought: do you suppose people see a long list of names or a high number of patrons and assume "oh she must be doing quite well, no need for my $5"?

Palpable Pips

Yep, the pound to Aussie dollars is almost double! That's made it impossible to go higher sorry to say😢

Will

It would really help!

Will

I can't afford the subscription above lowest tier as my medical bills take all my disability pension and I'm not medically fit to work. I'd love to go higher but the currency conversion means I'm paying double and that's far too much unfortunately because I think you're brilliant. Perks don't sway my vote nor do I engage in social media much, but I have recommended you to the people in my life which means every social worker, doctor and nurse I've met in the last 4 years has watched you. Also, when I came out as trans which was around the same time as you I doubled my efforts. Many have since told me they loved your channel BTW! Here in Oz much like the UK everything has increased in price so much that I've been forced to make ridiculous choices like weighing up food vs meds. I had several low tier subs. I kept 3 free tier subs and 1 flat tier sub but everyone else was cancelled, including KJB sadly. I would love to support you more if the Govt ever payed disability pensions so that it covered realistic expenses - which should include money for something other than medical expenses! - rather than the pitance it is at the moment. I deeply value you as a creator and appreciate your YouTube channel and it really helped me during my transitioning. I'll never be able to repay you for that. I would love to see the return of 'Adelaide' again. I think given that you're a busy lady, having a video twice a month might not be feasible but it would be great to see you more often. You could do a small production one like standing infront of your bookcase and one where you're more theatrical perhaps. A bit like the book club ideas others have suggested on here. I like you either way because I am hear to learn first so I wouldn't miss the glam so much :) good luck Abi and a huge thank you

Will

I’m a lowest tier Patreon, and I also got a Nebula lifetime membership via your affiliate link some time ago. Why did I sign up to your Patreon? I liked your work. And I’ve been supporting independent creators for years using all kinds of methods: Kickstarter, Indiegogo, Humble Bundle (for video games and ebooks), Patreon, YouTube memberships, several tipping services which no longer exist, buying merch, buying physical books (publishing a book is easier when your standard content is web comics instead of videos 🙂),… I prefer to give a small amount to more people if possible. And I do it because I want to support their work. I don’t visit Patreon that often, so I usually don’t see extra content. I don’t like creators putting main content behind a paywall, I prefer paying so others can get free content. Perks like behind the scenes, bloopers, bits that didn’t make the final cut,… are of course ok. I actually don’t like all those supporter’s names at the end of YouTube videos, and I absolutely see no reason for my name to appear in there. You’re the only YouTuber I support via Patreon. I support several others using YouTube memberships. For me this has the benefit of members-only videos appearing in my subscriptions feed, which is the main method I use for watching YouTube. What would prompt me to increase my monthly pledge? You asking. And you did here. I saw the only advantage of the next tier would be my name in the credits, so I didn’t change tiers, I just increased my monthly pledge in the lowest tier to €5.

Lemming

I pledged after seeing one or two YouTube videos of yours. I thought this amazing, high quality content deserves to be supported. I got to think more deeply about issues you are discussing thanks to you so that's very interesting to me. How to get other people pledge... Sorry, no idea.

Agnieszka Jakubowicz

I pledged since I love your content and you asked free members to pledge due to financial stress.

Jacob Palmer

I'm happy pleadging a bit more if you ask, or if that's needed for a special project. :)

Gabriela Surita

Is there like a discord server? That might be a way to get a few more patrons, spread. I think it best not to put such a thing behind a paywall, but you can have parts of it exclusive to paid members.

Mythra (Pouya) Sattari

I generally join the patreons of creators to help keep the "main show" going, so I'm not particularly motivated by Discord, AMA'S, streams, and other such perks. If you were able to produce more casual, mini PhilosophyTube videos-- something like Natalie/Contrapoints' "Tangent" series-- that might peak my interest into a higher tier.

Jon Skoog

I try to think of supporting creators on Patreon in original "patron of the arts" sense. I've got an ok job, I can afford to pay people to make stuff I like. I will admit however that I occasionally support people or select amounts based on the perks. The big one I think sells most people is exclusive content for subscribers. My favorites are more casual/lower production quality stuff in the same genre as the creators' normal videos. I'm guessing this would be super hard for you given your schedule but maybe something more in the style of your streams than a full video, sitting at your desk chatting about a topic, or even revisiting a topic from a prior video where you've learned something new/have additional thoughts.

Pascal

I pledge by amount I can afford. I don’t pledge for perks. My criteria for support is a yes to the following 2 questions. 1. Would the younger me have benefited if this content was around when I was a teenager/20s? 2. Could this content be funded through a capitalist system of ad revenue and endorsements, or is it reliant on private donations? Yes to both those get a few dollars a month. I am on a limited income right now. I’d prefer 2 really good deep dives into a topic video essays per year, than lots of updates or perks.

Mushee

I'm on Patreon solely because I want creators to get my money. I am personally not really motivated by and early releases or anything. There are unfortunately many different creators that I'd like to support. I think that if I'd had more Patreon budget then I would choose to add more creators to that list rather than to increase the individual pledges.

Electric Dusk

Josh strife Hayes has a method that I like which is offering a benefitless tier of 1£ per month. I have no reason to lower my pledge but for someone who wants to support but can't afford the 5. Having that lower barrier to entry may encourage people to jump on that otherwise wouldn't have. Alternatively may retain people that would have jumped ship for financial reasons as well.

Womobo

I signed up to the Patreon after "I Emailed My Doctor 133 Times": the joke reason being that you commanded us to do so in that video, the actual reason being that I wanted to support a series that tells the truth about about trans people amid a sea of hostile media. I'm hovering at €11 per month for budgetary reasons for now.

Jack Fennell

One other possible snag to people moving tiers: as I just found out, you can't go from a yearly to a monthly subscription until the year runs out, which means my plan of temporarily moving up to the $50 tier for a book means I'd have to pay for the whole year at once, which I can't really afford right now.

Sam Price

Personally budget is pretty tight, but just because of this post I will up from 2$ to 5$ tier for as long as I can sustain that with the few other subscriptions I have on Substack/patreon. It might only be a few months but I’ll do what I can. I’m one of those people who isn’t so much subscribing for content as I am for supporting you, but if l had to say something, I’d love a bibliography from your videos or a book recommendation that is additional to the content mentioned in the video but related to it. I dont want you to have to put in too much extra work on top of what you’re already doing but that would keep me engaged:) you’re always amazing!

Allen

Hi Abi. My motivation to sign up for Philosophy Tube Patreon was I liked you and I enjoyed your content and wanted to support that. Later, I also signed up for Nebula, primarily because I wanted to see The Prince and also as another means of support. I did increase my pledge because I liked the recognition of being on your Instagram sheet. I think a restructuring of the tiers could be a motivating factor for sure. Personally I find the thank you card attractive, but just can't afford that much on a monthly basis. I have turned friends on to Philosophy Tube and they enjoy it, but are not Patrons. I'll see what I can do. As always, best of luck with PT, life, and your acting.

Cheryl Jolly

I had to bail because spouse is out of work. Until that changes... Maybe after the election. Transparency in what the Patreon is paying for is all I ask for.

Crissa Kentavr

Free tier here. I'm not a paid subscriber because I feel like I may have "outgrown" Philosophy Tube a little bit. I don't mean that as a negative. More as a "I started college taking introductory classes, and moved on to higher level classes." I've learned to do my own reading, and research, living, and thinking, so the new Philosophy Tube video is less "A whole new way of looking at the world, and she's got a fun vibe/outfit," and more "Yeah, I'm aware of what she's talking about, and she's got a fun vibe/outfit." If I were to look at who I do pay money to for their content they either put out a ton of iterative content showing process, very long form content (2-3+ hour deep dives) that may take 6 months-1 year to produce but the singular piece feels worth the total cost paid for those months, or weekly content that feels like a traditional piece of entertainment. A final thought - I think less is more in terms of advertising/asking for support. If a creator says "Hey, this stuff isn't great for ad revenue, I have a patreon." I'll definitely consider subscribing. But you tend to make a more in-depth meaningful/morality argument to support you, which dissuades me the longer it goes on. Additionally, you mix all of your work into your Philosophy Tube videos. That muddies the waters and can leave a bad taste in my mouth. I understand that Philosophy Tube is the most eyes you can get to promote your other endeavors, but at best it feels like a clunky pivot, and at worst it cheapens and detracts from the more important topics in the actual video.

Kacey

Big reason I haven't subscribed is that I'm already a Nebula subscriber so I see your content there. Also, I just played Harmony: the fall of Reverie and you were amazing in it!

Drew McParlan

IIRC, I increased my monthly pledge for the satisfaction of seeing my own name in credits and social media shout outs. It is a silly perk, but seems to be a consistent offering across Patreon offerings. Me personally, what would tempt me to upgrade further would be something like a study resource for each new video: annotated bibliography, discussion topics, reflection questions, your recommendations on next steps to take ideas on, etc. Other folks might be interested in access to a private Discord or other discussion forum.

GK Wagner

Personally, I had to cancel my subscription because it renews on the first. I often don't have money to spare on the first, so it's important for my subscriptions to have flexible start/end dates. Patreon seems to have two models. One where the sub renews on the first of each month and one where it renews on the same day of the month as when you signed up. Some More News, for example,uses the latter model. It might be easier for some of us with more limited incomes to maintain our subscriptions if we can arrange for them to renew closer to our respective pay days. I'm not sure how great of an effect such a change would have, but it would at least help me stay subbed.

EclipsedLiE

What made you sign up: The production quality is phenomenal, and it feels like something that is trying to be good for the public. I'm willing to chip in $2 for that. Would you ever share a creator's Patreon: I don't use social media that way. I used to hang out on Reddit, and I'm in the comments section sometimes, but I don't have connections with specific people on any platform. Are there any new tiers or restructuring of tiers you'd like to see: This is the first time I've signed into Patreon in months. I use this purely as a way to send you (and a few other creators I like) small amounts of money. If I had found you today, I don't know that I would have joined the Patreon because you look too successful to need my two dollars. I'm not trying to defend this position, I just hope that's useful information.

Jon Penn

I love the content and I was a supporter for awhile but as you mentioned my financial situation did change. A job loss and I became a full time student pursuing my Masters degree. I still watch the videos and I will become a supporter once my situation, job wise, changes.

Ted Ellis

Hi Abi, I am only subscribed to 4 people's Patreons and the total amount that comes out of my bank account each month is $10. I know that if I were to commit to more than that, it would start to feel like something I need to get rid of when I look at my household budget. I would rather be able to promise I can give $2-3 a month indefinitely, rather than hem and haw every time my work situation changes or I have to take on a new recurring expense elsewhere. As for why you are one of those 4 subscriptions, it's because my partner and I are both very impressed by the amount of thought and effort you put into your videos, and we really appreciate the amazing work you are doing for the trans community. <3 Gigi

Gigi Hx

I can only speak for myself but I consider stopping the support I give you because of the anti-Israel content you started putting in your videos. I watch YouTube with a delay of about 3 months because I was busy for some period, couldn't shrink my "watch later" playlist and don't want to skip videos so I didn't watch your last of your main videos yet, but I considered stopping my support because of the previous one (the one about Butler) and commented about it both here and on YouTube (I'm the second latest comment on Patreon) but neither you nor anyone else replied to me. I decided I'd give you until you post a new main video to see if this a real trend or a slip up and try to see if I can get you to explain yourself by commenting on that video when it's new before I stop my support, but maybe other people decided that's enough right when you started to post what to me seems like shit with no factual basis about my country. I'll be glad if you respond to my original comment on the video about Butler here on Patreon (or on YouTube if you prefer for some reason to have the final word on a lonely comment thread in the public internet, although in that case I won't be able to reply because YouTube recommendations become annoying if I rewatch a video). If not I'll continue with my original plan, which is stopping the support after your next main video if you don't reply to the comment I plan to post about it on Patreon until my next payment after it. I also had people thinking I'm a Marxist or understand anything about LefTube because they saw I was supporting you while I'm here mostly because I value interesting philosophy, so that's also something, but that was many years ago and so probably unrelated to your recent drop in supporters.

רועי סיני

Interesting questions. Here’s a long-winded answer to one of them: I’m a free member, and what prompts me to pledge money is a combination of how much I get out of the free content, how much extra content I’m missing if I don’t pledge, and how much a creator needs the funds. I give the most to my favorite YouTube creator duo EVER that also seems to barely make rent every month, the second most to a podcast that has a whole extra Patreon podcast that’s the same quality as the free one. And then there’s one YouTuber I really like who needs the money. I stopped pledging to her when she stopped making videos and was just gonna do music, but re-pledged when she started videos again. For you, I like a decent amount of your free content, you say your patreon is on the decline…at the same time, you seem to have a large network. You are, as your dad says, “easy to work with,” at least you seem to be from the parasocial window we have. To be completely honest, if I’m gonna add another Patreon pledge, the next one is gonna be somebody with a smaller network than you who is not as easy to work with, but still makes content I love. I’m doing okay financially right now, but I’m not easy to work with, so I have to be prepared for the worst.

Austen G

I discovered you on Nebula and sometimes watch some of your videos. Nebula has no mechanism to communicate with creators so when a Patreon is available, I signup.

justthisguy

- I signed up in 2021, I can't remember exactly what prompted it but that you'd been a creator I'd enjoyed for a while and had the ability to support! - Like many, I tend to subscribe at lower tiers unless there is specifically something I want at higher tiers - bonus episodes to a podcast, for example. I try to support more creators at lower tiers than fewer at higher tiers. Also, I am a Nebula subscriber as well. - I have bumped my subscription to creators at other tiers in the past because they asked. E.g. One podcast I like removed new subscriptions from the tier I was at because it was "no longer financially viable" but let everyone who was still there keep subscribing; I bumped my subscription when I could because they had asked. So, consider asking on your socials! - I would be more likely to share a Patreon if there was some sort of exclusive content there, e.g. Alexander Avila's podcast, the Fansplaining special episodes, the Hbomb or Contrapoints exclusives. If no exclusives, I am more likely to share someone's videos, or Nebula, as I feel that people respond better to a value proposition. - Honestly I do think exclusives would be more likely to get people to sign up. It looks like all your BTS posts on here are available to both free and paid subscribers. If there were only short posts available to free subscribers and longer posts available to paid subscribers, that might do it. - I would also consider subscribing or upping tier if Patreon could be a collation of your other socials, e.g. I didn't know you posted outfit notes on your Twitter until I saw it in a comment on this post. I don't have Twitter and Insta, I'm just a tumblr gremlin, so using this as a way to get all your stuff would be awesome. - Re $40 tier: didn't even know this existed, and honestly with the Superchat feature on Youtube primarily being used as a way for people to ask you questions, it feels redundant to me. I'm not at this tier, though, so I can't comment further. In terms of potential Patreon content: - Additional BTS stuff, this is what I love most about your Patreon. Commenting on choices for sets, rationale for outfits. - Little video tours (like 5 minutes) of the shoots, which could then be cut down to 1 min as a teaser/promo for Tiktok/YT and end with a Patreon plug. Or the reverse, as I think you might already do this a little for TikTok from the sets, extend it a little longer and put the extended cut on Patreon. - Others mentioned posts about book suggestions - I think posts about "for X episode I'm reading this book. Here are some freeform thoughts. What do you all think?" Would be a good post for paid subscribers at a certain tier. Drives community engagement in a different, more directed way than a Discord. - Some creators that have moved towards less frequent releases post early drafts of videos on their Patreon. Folding Ideas also recently posted a script read to Patreon, for community feedback on the details. Your editing process seems pretty streamlined, so that might not be a help, but it might not be that much extra work to do. - Agree with others saying any short freeform content in general would work. - Stream-like exclusives: FD Signifire has movie watchalongs, for example. - Unlikely because it means more work, but having one or two exclusive videos that SOLELY exist on your Patreon, not Nebula, not Youtube. You could do what Verilybitchie has just done and post a segment of an exclusive video on the public feeds, and say "subscribe here to get the rest". - For any future collabs, short informal chat with the creators you work with about the collab. Other things: being clear in the videos or descriptions what you use the Patreon for, i.e. why it is helpful if people sign up to it specifically, can be valuable too! I know that paywalling things kind of goes against the PhilosophyTube ethos, but honestly in this age of content saturation I do think that sometimes having that THING push e.g. "Hbomb's Myst video" or "bonus podcast about House MD" is necessary for people.

Claire B

Hello Abigail. I subscribed ages ago, having an interest in Philosophy from my college days (which are long, long past at this point). If I recall correctly, I subscribed because you were going to acting school and needed subscribers to keep the channel going. I actually joined Patreon because of that request, and I have no plans to leave or reduce my contribution. You ask about things that might be nice additions for patrons, and while I appreciate the thought, I generally view Patreon as a "set and forget" thing. I have a few others that I support here as well, and unless they send an email, I don't even visit the site. What that means to me is that I don't see things that get posted here with any regularity. Others will, of course, and I appreciate the value of such posts to engage and enlarge your audience. But I worry that adding more work could take away from all the other things you are doing. Striking that balance is not a simple thing for anyone, so please keep an eye on that. You ask if we might share your videos with others. I have, in the past, but I face a challenge due to my age. Your theatrical turn is great, but some of the looks you've used would - well, let's just say my mom might not approve. ;) Being ancient myself, the people I can share them with are older too, and that's the rub in my case. I share your posts on occasion, but sadly I think I am well past your target demographic. Take care, and thank you for all your excellent work. I look forward to many more years of it!

Jeff Powell

I have a limited budget for Patreon. I like to think that, with my small contribution, I can help to support creators I love. I have been one of yours for years. When I saw your career going so well, I just thought I may move my budget towards a smaller creator who I could not support in other ways (going to see them at theatre as I do with you, for example). You did nothing wrong, you are still among my favourite. ❤️

Sara Giannetti

I'm one of the "My Financial Situation Changed" people. I initially subscribed because I ended up in a relatively high-paying job and wanted to give back, so I subscribed to a number of Patreon creators whose work I enjoy and want to see continue. (I have my own Patreon which brings in [hold on to your bonnet] US$14 a month :) ) When I lost that job I had to drop all my Patreon subscriptions, and I felt really bad about it. Then I got a new relatively high-paying job and I signed back up again; I quit last week, alas. I want to see your work continue, Abi, because it's entertaining, educational, and good, and you deserve every success. If I ever get another relatively high-paying job, I'll be back giving some to you. <3

Chris Rywalt

I'm a free member, but unfortunately I can't afford to subscribe. More accurately, I can't afford to subscribe to all the creators I'd like to subscribe to. For a long time now I've wished Patreon had an option to donate $X total a month, select which creators you'd like to divvy that between, totaling Y, and then automatically donated $X/Y a month to each of those creators. As is I can't afford to donate even $Y a month, because that would be something like $50, and that's nearly half my monthly income. I am subscribed to Nebula, however, because so many of my favorite creators are there.

Nastassja Riemermann

I'm subscribed ($20/m) strictly because I believe in the value of the work and I love what you're doing. I can't say that the Patreon provides much; there isn't an active community here, for example, and "early access" stopped existing since it releases on Nebula even before Patreon.

Yonatan Zunger

I joined a very long time ago, after watching your 'men, abuse, trauma' video. Having survived an abusive relationship, I saw a lot of myself in that video—it expressed so many things that I (as an autistic person) struggled to express on my own. You mentioned how making YouTube videos helped you to leave that situation, and since I was in a place where I could afford to offer my own support, I did. I didn't do it to receive any perks and rarely participate in anything, but I agree that more short, informal content here would be a lovely bonus for something I'm already planning to continue doing. I also really like the idea of including more book content.

jessi

The worry about 'changing up patreon to attract more paying subs/higher tiers' is that it may just mean more work. That said, the thing I'd like is also tricky, because of copyright & access... I'd love to see at the $5-10 dollar range a 'reading club' where you have links to texts you're reading for upcoming episodes, especially stuff in the 'journal article' page range, and approachable. Bonus points if it were things you found interesting, but ultimately don't fit in the end narrative for whatever reason. I'm sure you already have that kind of working bibliography, but also so much of it gets locked in journal paywall hell, or is just so dense that if you aren't already conversant with the applicable underlying philosophy, it's a bad read. That said, that kind of 'sneak peak' as you're working up new episodes wouldn't be a -huge- new ask, but it's also a nice value add.

BuckTurner

hi abi! honestly, i try to subscribe to as many $1/$2 tiers as possible with my limited budget, and as others have mentioned, when i subscribed to nebula i had to pick somewhere to compensate until i can afford otherwise. obviously you dont reap the benefit of the entire nebula subscription in the same way as a patreon pledge, but its less about what you could offer as an incentive imo and more about the fact that we're all poor and getting poorer for no real reason other than line must go up, ykno? on a purely abstract level, though, to echo what at least one other person has said: im much less interested in 'your name in the credits' style rewards and much more enticed by some sort of bonus content/insight - not necessarily a whole extra video or podcast though! i really enjoyed your bts photos; as another kind of example, an 'abi's book of the month' where you provide a brief writeup/review for something you've read recently (either for fun or for an upcoming video) would also be super appealing. obviously this is still adding more to your plate, but maybe it's aligned enough with your existing scriptwriting/production workflow that it wouldn't tax you too much. i personally am less a fan of 'stream recap/highlight' videos in general, but since it seems you're also covering book recommendations there maybe it could overlap somewhat there. as a worst-case scenario, i can at least speak for a section of your viewers who watches your work because they enjoy how you make your arguments and the way you break down and synthesize ideas. if the production scope of the videos narrows a bit (much as i love all your costumes and makeup styles!!), i know i will not be the only one still watching. while it feels weird to go back and watch your pre-transition videos, 'witchcraft, gender, & marxism' and 'steve bannon' come to mind as narrower than your current degree of production, but still exceptionally well-made, visually compelling, and with cogent arguments to boot.

hell

That’s a great idea! Having a little informal place for people to share their thoughts. Or perhaps making a post every so often about a book that you’re reading for the next video for people to share and feel like they’re reading alongside you!

Claire B

Just hearing this prompted me to upgrade my membership. Would love more short form content on here but also I'm mainly here to support the long philosophy tube masterpieces

Shifra Isaacs

I am new to Patreon. I just recently signed up to support Philosophy Tube because I am a fan and want to support your work. Your recent post about the decline in pledges was part of what motivated me to finally sign up. I picked the tier that would get my name in the video credits. I already get early access to videos on Nebula, which I have subscribed to since The Prince. I agree with what others have posted about more short informal content exclusive to patrons. I especially love your book recommendations, and I think having exclusive book-related content on Patreon would be a great motivator for people to sign up.

Hillary Davis Newhart

I will, hopefully, be upping my pledge sometime next year once I get a full-time job. I'll be doing so because I think your work is extremely important - as someone in academia, I am a huge fan of giving your education away for free. For me, it isn't about any particular perks, unlike other creators I pledge to for D&D stuff I don't expect too much from video creators beyond the videos. I don't even watch your live streams, haha, but I know I am probably in the minority. I try to promote your videos as often as I can, but I don't promote your Patreon - mostly because it is either my students I promote your work to with select videos that apply to the course material or my friends who I know don't have as much discretionary spending as I do. Right now, I am on the 5$ a month tier but paying for a yearly subscription and I would probably up my pledge to 10$ a month paying yearly once I'm off my graduate student stipend and into a real job.

Nic Frame

Hi! I am a $5 a month patron. I joined after watching so many of your videos on youtube and wanted to acknowledge how much work you put in and what I got out of it. Still feel good about that even though I don't really engage with much of your patreon content. It seems like your more theatrical turn is going really well but I don't think I am the target audience for that. I do send people your videos but haven't ever shared your patreon specifically because I am less about the bonus stuff and just support people whose content and perspective I think is enriching regardless of the perks.

Frances Webb

I'm one of the people who recently had to drop. It's entirely financial on my end, and I'd like to resub when I am able. I mention your videos to my friends at least once a week, I find them highly valuable and I want more people to see them! I could definitely share more on my socials though.

Nova StardustPaste

Honestly (and I know this is a touch obsequious), I give what I can and I wish I could give more. Rewards aren’t why I subscribed to your content; it’s the fact that, as a cisgendered father of LGBTQIA+ children (whom I adore) you have opened my eyes to issues I didn’t previously consider, and my relationship with them is better for it. I am grateful for your insight, Abi, and I’ll be with you revamp or not.

Benjamin Rutledge

I was subscribed, but nearly a year of un/under-employment has made me cut back on all my discretionary spending. I can't wait to come back. Good luck.

vanessa inanna mystyrica

Yeah I don't even look at the rewards for most creators usually, I just throw in a few bucks because I want the people who make cool stuff to be able to live. The only exception is probably stuff with bonus episodes, I'll watch those. But that's a very different level of effort compared to a Philosophy Tube *production*.

Simeon

Hi Abi, I'm going to give you a very honest answer here. I still love your content, but I have seen that you have differentiated a lot in your activities. I am very happy for you (and I signed up for and still am a member of Nebula because of you and your extra content there), but I feel that other creators might need my patreon pledge more than you do at this point in time.

Francesco Santini

I used to be a supporter don’t remember which tier but it was not the lowest one i think. For me the change in the content. I used to wait months excited for each episode to be released it was like a movie like a ongoing plot it was so fun. It’s been a year since I noticed a change in themes and felt I was not the target audience. I stopped being super exciting to just -Oh another video will check it out when get motivated to learn about this subject. Which I still do!

Ivan S.L Dager

I tend to think of Patreon as another Netflix/Prime/Nebula type subscription (though I spend way more on Patreon) where I can distribute the money to only the creators I follow. I'd love to increase my subscriptions, but unless my boss gives me a huge raise, I can't really increase my pledges for one creator without dropping another. For why I signed up in the first place: A bunch of your videos had been in my feed for a while and I finally clicked on one and then another. So I subscribed to your channel. The very next video you dropped was your coming out video. While you weren't the first channel I followed that talked about it, you are the one who changed my opinion from an intellectual acceptance to it being a core value. As someone in his 40s with a pretty established viewpoint, it's rare and wonderful to get that kind of perspective shift. I signed up for your Patreon that day and I'm not going anywhere.

Robert Gendron

I'm subscribed to a bunch of creators at the lowers tiers of 1 or 2 bucks a month because I'd rather spread it around a bunch of people rather than have to be picky with who gets what. By keeping individual pledges low I can just 'fire and forget' the money and support the creators consistently over a long period of time. The only time I've ever cancelled a pledge was when the creator stopped making the content I'd signed up for in the first place. There is also a wider point about 'content saturation' where there's simply too much stuff to keep up with and some things fall by the wayside as there literally isn't time enough in the day to watch it all. I've no idea what the right way to do things is but if I had to hazard a guess I'd say this: Concentrate on making the core product well and to a reasonable time scale. Don't get bogged down with mega-projects and side-content if they aren't explicitly worth the time/resource investment. I don't know if channels like PT are kept afloat by small numbers of high rollers or masses of smaller donors but I'd suggest trusting that the people backing you do so because they like the core product/personality behind the patreon and don't spread yourself too thin working on things people didn't ask for.

C2

I'm at the £2 tier because I got a Nebula membership for The Prince, and that gave me the early episode access I would have otherwise upgraded for once I had the money. I'm considering going up to £50 for a month to treat myself to a book for Christmas or something, but there's not much in-between those two tiers that appeals to me - If I have a question for the livestream I just take my chances you'll see it in the comment section - I know you're too much of an egalitarian to actually /require/ people to pay to have their questions answered! 😅 Ideas for new tiers: Access to episode bloopers, but then that sort of undercuts the value of a Nebula subscription. Perhaps the opportunity to suggest topics for new videos, but then that means your future content is somewhat decided by the people who can afford the fee... More book reviews??? What if you tried to get interviews with some of the philosophers you study/reference in the episodes, and then you upload those discussions as bonus content after the episode their work was featured in has aired? (I have no idea how feasible this is) Lastly, and thank you for reading this far, but will the "Don't Play With Matches" pins ever be back on the merch store? I want one so badly I am prepared to buy several to justify the cost to you of having them made. Even if you have any old ones just lying around, I will upgrade my membership to the £100 tier if it meant I could get my hands on one, pretty pretty please! 🥹

Sam Price

I've been a member since August 2021 at the lowest tier. I became a patron because I love your work, wanted to support it, and also I wanted those sweet sweet BTS posts. Honestly, I would have pledged at least $5 a month to you, except I became a patron of your channel and KJB at the same time and I obviously needed to pledge enough to get the bonus episodes over there, and I didn't feel like I had enough money to do both at the time. I still don't have a ton of money, I probably wouldn't be able to go above the $5 tier, but I would definitely bump up a tier for even a pretty small reward. A quick little video or voice note about literally anything you'd want to talk about each month, I know you mentioned a book list for a higher tier but even something simple like a quick recommendation for one book and why, or even like...a compilation of some of your tweets that month? Maybe that's just me, but I don't go on Twitter anymore and I miss following you. Or even just like...a picture of your favorite background prop for a video so we can play "I Spy" with your more intricate sets. These are all just examples. For me personally, recognition-type rewards (like getting a shout-out on social media) are not big drivers. A little bit more access (like the BTS posts) are much more enticing. It's a little tricky because you give so much access to the show and how you think about it through the livestreams and I'd never want those to be paywalled, but something small along those lines I think would go a long way to get some of us up to a slightly higher tier.

Karis Ritenour

Right. Especially because it doesn’t seem like it’s a 1 episode role either. Looks like a character we’d see a lot of in season 3, which is why I assumed it would pay really well

Michael

I definitely think people don't have much context for what an actor's income is like, even (especially?) for "big" shows like House of the Dragon. Or there might be a perception that sure, they're paid peanuts at first, but then they have a "big break" and the money starts rolling in - right?

enchantedsleeper

That would be cool!

enchantedsleeper

I suspect it's not that unusual for patrons to ignore the rewards. The biggest reward is seeing new videos! I wonder if the reason people even expect that rewards will motivate people is that we're taught to think that way by capitalist ideologies. I think there was a video where you mentioned David Graeber's idea of "baseline communism" but that idea is with me all the time now. I wouldn't mind a whole video about it, for example a review of "Debt: The First 5000 Years"

Captain Mikee

**I don’t like my message, so skip to the TLDR. Shouldn’t try to write this stuff as I’m starting work, and don’t have time to delete and start over** Um, no. Maybe you should explain to people that acting does not pay well? Because yea, I assumed you had made it as an actor being on one of the biggest shows out there, and that you could afford your lifestyle. Also how to do I say this. It’s not that you should use your own money to pay for the YouTube show. But that is kinda what you’re doing. We’re giving you money to live and support the show, and obviously you’re putting some of that back into the show But I assumed as your career branched out the show was more a labor of love rather than your full-time employment. Obviously your time is money, so I wouldn’t expect you to work on the show if you were actively losing money. So TLDR My assumption was that you were getting into acting, and the money there was enough to support yourself and YouTube was now the side hustle that you were doing out of love and loyalty (since it’s how you came up) and that you didn’t really need it. So maybe all that should be laid out for people?

Michael

Oh yeah, The Prince. I watched it by myself, I showed it to my kids, I showed it to my parents! I cried every time.

Captain Mikee

Having a mid tier bonus content level usually gets me to increase my sub. I've done it for a book club and a weekly group meditation. The content doesn't have to be that much extra work even. Could be you just reading bits from philosophy books you thought were insightful.

Jake Smith

I'm trying to remember why I signed up in the first place. There might have been a video that inspired me - maybe the 15 minute cities video? I was definitely excited about seeing the sequel to that one and wanted to make sure it happened. Or maybe it was an older one I watched, like the NHS/Catch-22 video. I think the video that got me interested in the channel in the first place was the Effective Altruism video. I had been curious about EA already - ever since I saw Hank Green do an ad read for 80,000 hours. I actually signed up for the EA intro program, and went through it, slowly feeling more frustrated and disillusioned with them. And then I saw your video and it brought all those problems into focus. But there were independent factors - I think I found out that Patreon had cancelled a lot of people's subscriptions without their consent, and I went in to check - it turns out mine had been cancelled. So I renewed the ones I wanted to renew, and added a few more, including your channel, Spice8Rack, Jessie Gender, and Andrewism.

Captain Mikee

Not sure I'm going to be much help but: - I'm on the lowest paid tier. Not that I don't value your time or work but I also support (checks notes) 55 other creators through Patreon and Substack, mostly. Plus I'm a Nebula subscriber. The odds of my increasing that are slim because my budget for this is kind of maxed out. - I subscribed after watching your content on YouTube. Loved it. Wanted to see more of it. Still do. Not that I don't appreciate and support your acting career but I'm mostly here for the philosophy explainers and deep relevant political insights. EG your ep on the fucked-up situation with the UK NHS was awesome. I sent that one to several friends. - Yes, I share your links but rarely on socials. Usually I send specific links to people I know who I think will be interested in the content. I am not the sort to post "rah rah Abi is great" (though you are) - it's just not my jam. I do try to share Nebula links when I can to get people to subscribe to that, but it's not very successful.

DrWex

Some people move their pledges up sometimes; if you have, would you mind telling me what prompted you to do that? I have moved pledges up for some creators for specific perks I have wanted, such as access to additional videos and my name in the credits. What made you sign up to the Philosophy Tube Patreon? I remember exactly: Your call to action in your video about the NHS. I even paused the video to do it. Until that moment, I considered my nebula subscription as adequate support for your work. In your call to action you looked directly at me through the camera and woke me the fuck up. Would you ever share a creator's Patreon on your own socials, or with friends? Would you ever share this one? I wouldn't, because it sits in an awkward venn diagram: I wouldn't push a Patreon to friends unless I know they are already fans of a creator, and most friends who I know are fans are usually already Patreons. But I do promote Nebula to friends as "unionising for youtube creators". Nebula is a simpler idea and a organisation I really believe in, so it feels natural to shill for it. It also gets to my previous question - when allocating my entertainment budget, it can be difficult to justify both nebula and the patreons of several nebula creators. So nebula may be cannibalising some of your patrons.

Jules

I signed up for the patreon after your coming out video, simply to support a queer creator making content I like. Currently for me, patreon is like a tip jar— none of the actual perks appeal to me all that much, so I remain at the level I'm at to keep putting a tip in the jar. I like another commenter's idea of making some behind the scenes or process videos available at higher tiers, that might motivate me to upgrade!

Em

So I lost my full-time job, moved down to a free member, then got this part-time job that pays enough for me to support some creators and i reupped my paid membership. I couldn't add back on all the creators I had been supporting, but I've been a fan of philosophy tube for a long time and remember how it was founded on the idea of offering education for free then transforming into this very entertaining, very well designed channel about philosophical questioning. Instead of accepting society's ills, we're asked to question the reasoning to how they came to be. Plus the music and aesthetic are gorgeous. There's elements of camp and horror combined with high concept designs. I'm absolutely here for it. Coming from a theater background, this is the type of media I want to see in the world. The Prince was fantastic. I've been a nebula subscriber for a while and it survived the subscription purge. Of my non-essential expenses, media and the arts are the primary portion followed by restaurant takeaways. I think I'm an anomalous kind of Patron: I don't even look at the perks and posts most of the time. Contributing to the work is my primary reason and, for a number of creators, hearing my name read out at the end of an episode is kinda thrilling. An example of something i couldn't do any more, even though I got a part-time job, listen to Well There's Your Problem podcast, because I don't commute anymore. TLDR: So being reminded to change/reinvest my pledge to Philosophy Tube when my circumstances changed for the better was helpful. It may be meager, but I feel that it's worth it.

Northerly Keebler

I pledged a couple months ago as I just found your content back in July. I pledged because your content is extremely thought provoking (and entertaining). As a father of a lesbian non-binary child, your content has helped me grow as a parent and as a human being. Well worth my Nebula sub fee and my pledge. Please keep up the good work! If I were to recommend anything to drive additional Patreon support, it would be more cross collabs with other creators. I became aware of you via Legal Eagle.

Kristopher Moniz

I do wonder how many people think ‘she’s a successful actor now, she doesn’t need my support’ - from the comments above, a few people have expressed that view. I can understand people choosing to support ‘smaller’ creators instead. For my part: I signed up because I watched one of the vids (the Transhumanism one) and was so impressed by it I wanted to support on the spot. And subsequent videos have made me feel that was the right decision. The length of time between videos is frustrating sometimes, but we know you’re busy, and that they take a lot of time to put together. I raised my pledge from the minimum level for the purely selfish reason that I like seeing my name in the credits. :) I have promoted your channel elsewhere occasionally, but I feel like most people who would like it know about it already…

Amyphist

In answer to your questions, I would convert to a paid pledge if I had more money, I would raise my pledge to a higher tier if I had even more money, and I want to be a paid member because I want to support the way you distribute knowledge without charge. Basically, fuck capitalism

Mattezhion Zane Corgan Campbell

Hello Miss Abigail! Well, i first pledged here on you patreon for the same reason i first subscribed to your youtube channel when i stumbled upon your NHS video. I honestly believe in your work, and i've learned a lot from you in these past couple of years. As for the pledging up, like i just did, well, its the same reason as above. I truly believe you work, and i want to do anything i can so that you keep asking these questions and probing these problems our world faces with this incredible mix of empathy, wit and style. I don't know how many people support you from countries outside the US-Europe group, but for those people like myself, currency exchange rates are sometimes a challenge. Sometimes the rates move in a way that makes it easier and sometimes that makes it harder to support you. All my admiration to you, Miss Abigail 🧡

Swordsmith_Doc

I just upped my membership from $2 -> $5, because you asked. I don't engage online much, so I don't get much out of any of the patreons I support. I just love every video you've made and want to express my gratitude and help you continue (and have some money to spare). So, I don't have much helpful to say, except that people love your work and will maybe pitch if they hear I direct request like the one in this email! PS - logistical question: when upping, Patreon offered to pay annually. I usually do this for every subscription because it saves me money. But in this case I want to be giving the money, so I kept it monthly. However, it made me wonder if maybe you'd see the same amount of money (as in, the annual is just a discount on Patreon fees?). Would be nice to know!

Nate Stender

Hi Abi, I joined after the strong call to action to join your Patreon in your video about the UK healthcare system and how it treats trans people. I've been here since and mainly pledge just to pledge, so I can't offer you any more insight. Hope you get plenty of useful data from other people. Have a good day!

Gosh Darn It, Jay!

There are so many more creators I want to support than my budget can handle, even at the $1-3 tier. When I signed up for nebula, I made the choice to switch to the free tier for creators on there. I suspect that math doesn't even out on the creator's end, unfortunately. I'll definitely revisit when I have an income again myself 🤦🏼‍♀️ Edited to add: I missed half the question! I did make the switch to Contrapoints paid tier for the "tangents." There's something about the lower production values that feeds my parasocial attachment way better than the fancy produced videos. I find unedited livestreams aren't focused enough for the time investment with my wild child-rearing schedule.

Sharrit

Free member here. I absolutely love your stuff and you're easily in my top 3 creators, I support you in other ways (made my Nebula account with the link to support The Prince and promoted your stuff on my socials and hyped up your recent acting roles) but when it comes to patreon I'm currently prioritizing less visible creators. There's so many I would like to support and limited resources so I have to choose and I chose this as a criteria. I do hope you manage to get more patrons and when I'll have the means to support everyone I follow I'll definitely be among them. For now I thank you for your incredible work, it never fails to amaze me.

Andrea Pennasilico

I signed up to the Patreon because I was learning so much from your videos -- about philosophy and about being human. That was valuable to me so I wanted to support you in return. I'm not on socials but I frequently recommend Philosophy Tube IRL. I can only afford to support a few Patreons at a time, so from time to time I will cancel one to sign up with another. Later, if I'm still connecting to the first person's work, I'll sign back up with them again.

_motive

The biggest reason I pledge to a patreon, besides and obligation to compensate artists for their work that I regularly consume, is to get access to all their content. Frequent additions of shortform content behind the paywall would certainly have incentivized me, were I not already pledging.

RefinedUrsine

I usually support creators at a lower tier because I like the content, simple as that. Once or twice yearly I comb through all our family subscriptions in general and cancel a few. With content creators it's normally because I'm no longer watching/listening as much, or because there's fewer content to enjoy. I have little interest in higher tiers usually. To gain more traction, you could simply ask people to support you - no frills, just ask. Your content is awesome, you are amazing, own it and go forth!

Jan Ebrard

Whoops, mistakenly posted into the Dracula comments. Here it is in the right place. You posted your coming out video about 2 weeks after I came out as a TransWoman to myself, to everyone I knew and to the world. I was feeling quite isolated and unsure and searching the internet for Trans information and community and connection and assurance I was not crazy. I was looking at Jessie Gender's YouTube channel when she posted a "Philosophy Tube has come out and why it means so much to me" video and immediately linked directly to you. No clue what Philosophy Tube was. I watched with an open heart, great vulnerability and all my hope. I'm not sure what I was hoping for but I was such an enormous, glowing ball of feelings, searching desperately for understanding and affirmation. I watched your coming out (of course assuming that Rhys was you). Such a powerful experience for me. Watching you walk through the door as Abigail and sitting down to talk and explain as yourself for the first time online. I was racked with sobs and filled with joy and was affirmed as me in all the ways I had been searching for. As never before and seldom since. You were powerfully emotionally imprinted in me as a part of my coming out experience and will be with me all of my years. If I were to claim to be 'your greatest fan' it would be trivializing my feelings. You, your voice and image, your mind, personality and creativity are woven into the roots of my life as a TransWoman. You have a part in my celebration of who I am. I had no idea what Patreon was and gave it no thought until watching the Catch-22 themed vid, "Emailed my doctor 133 times" and the moment when you explode with "Fucking Subscribe to my Patreon!!..." that I went looking for Patreon and was Celebrity Crush thrilled to sign up. And I always watch your Patreon people scroll up the screen at the end of your videos and pause to see my name, Erica Peterson, and feel a modest thrill to be a part of it all. And in my case, that is why I continue my Patreon subscription, to read my name in the credits.

 And to express my sweet, gentle adoration.

 And I don’t want to hear you complain when I share these feelings. This is what you signed up for when you starting being brilliant and gorgeous all over the internet, touching hearts and minds. It’s not my fault I’m so especially vulnerable to you, to your talent.

 I subscribe to about ten Patreon creators, usually to support them and help them make it in the world when they are starting out. That’s why I signed up with you. If I had more money I would probably up my membership with you a step, and I can’t imagine I would ever cancel my subscription. You are pretty well stuck with me. Yours, Erica eupeterson (at) mac.com

Erica Peterson

The only thing I can think of is more short content between larger releases, and make it exclusive to patreon.

Addie

I signed up initially to get early access to videos. But now i have nebula and don't need to. I do it still bc i want to support and can. I think that is the main reason i sign up to patreon at all -- to get a creators early access. That said, i did find the 15$ a bit steep for early access when nebula is 6$ a month. I feel most channels have that at the 5$ tier. It feels like the barrier to entry to get something meaningful is pretty high in this channel. If this wasn't my favorite channel i'd probably cancel, the perks of the lower tiers aren't really appealing. i think maybe having some "less early but still early access" or something for 5 or 10$ would be appealing to people, given the alternative is nebula.

Mai

I sign up when I really repeatedly enjoy content and feel like it needs to be supported/lifted (usually with a small contribution). 2019 for me here. I cancel, if I feel like I am not consuming the content as much any more (partly youtube's Algorithm) or like the content does not resonate with me as much any more. I don't really care about most bonus material, and I don't care about live streams. I have considered dropping my subscription, mostly due to the the appearance of less content than when I decided to subscribe (2019). Your content has changed a lot since, I feel. Much more refined and well-produced, but also less frequent and longer videos? Length and weight is an issue for me... Just makes it more "demanding" for me, i.e. requires more concentration. I would probably recommend to have some shorter videos sometimes. Also. I really liked your transparency on money in the past. Although the detail level seems to have decreased. Finally, -- and this is going to be tough and difficult to pose (I already see the hate coming. DO NOT read "I am not anti-LGTBQ" or anything, that is not what I want to say, all the power to everybody) -- I did not like listening to some of your most recent narrators. Most narrators are great... I would probably advice to look into the subscription date of people that are unsubscribing. (Financial situation might just be a way of saying "I have to budget and right now Philosophy Tube is not making the cut").

David

I sponsor a lot of content creators on patreon. Some I do top tier and some bottom tier or free. It really depends on the quality and quantity of the content. There are a few that haven't posted anything in months and in some cases for over a year so I don't sponsor them anymore. But if they start posting again i will reconsider. Usually the top tiers don't offer anything I want. To be honest a lot of creators seem to have youtube fatigue. It seems the pressure to create content frequently is too much for them. I can understand and relate to that. As for this channel, you stopped producing content of interest to me for quite a long time but i assume its because you are doing a lot more acting and therefor don't have the time. But i came to your channel because of the topics you covered. I'm always hopeful you will get back to the type of content you used to do. Would i post a link to this channel? - I have done so in the past for the youtube videos but not the patreon itself. Facebook has recently taken to deleting posts with links off of facebook so not sure we can even do this anymore. I'm not active on any other social media.

Caroline Mathieson

Perhaps you could cut together some footage from the making of episodes for Behind the scenes + bloopers/alternative cuts or cut scenes to make a little extra content that's exclusive to paid patreons. People are always pretty interested to hear about your behind the scenes creative process during the Post mortem Live streams, the outfit pics you post on socials with little explanations of how you and the team put them together, and I for one always find the bloopers amusing when you put them at the end of the videos. So I reckon you could combine all that into a video, if you can find the time.

Eireann Bullimore

Hi Abi, I can’t help much but I will be sure to let my friends know about you. I can only answer one of the questions you asked. I subscribed to your patreon because I love your content and I wanted to do my best to support it. I know that doesn’t help much but its the truth 😁

Alice Austin

I subscribed because I wanted to help ensure it kept going. The coming out video also touched me on an emotional level. Given the spirit of the channel, as I interpret it, is for the information to be shared wide, so I wasn’t expecting too much in terms of subscriber exclusive perks here. I also am a Nebula subscriber though, and I will say I like the exclusives. However, regular episodes are more fun to watch on YouTube with the live comments. I keep my current tier here partly for my ego I guess, I like being in the credits and to support the channel.

Rin Kuryloski

· What made you sign up to the Philosophy Tube Patreon? Gratitude. And wanting you to continue to share your knowledge and insights with us. · What do you think might get someone else to sign up if they haven't already? Exclusive content, but still on philosophy. Maybe some frequent shorter videos about random philosophical stuff from the top of your head. It doesn't need to be the same quality/standards as your main videos. Don't be a perfectionist. You can do much much much less than that as exclusive content and still be attractive.

Heitor Leal Farnese

I think I stopped pledging money here when I signed up for Nebula, because I got your content early (and some extras like The Prince) on there instead. I’m currently only financially supporting one Patreon creator and it’s because it’s the ONLY way to get their videos. They rarely post public on YouTube. (And this creator is making a living this way.)

Tish Black

After having watched for yours following a recommendation from a friend, I wanted to help support the work and effort you were putting out. After my transition, I especially wanted to help support another woman make distinct, informative, creatively independent, honest, and transparent works of media. When I recommend the show to others, I usually throw a mention in of the patreon as well.

Aiya Korra

I signed up to support you and the channel and it depends heavily on my own financial situation and not really on perks. I'm also a nebula subscriber, so some of my money finds a way to you in different ways as well. That said, more regular short form content would be appreciated and might add value that I'd consume and engage with. Live streams and the podcast don't really work for me, tho. (But that's just my socially awkward adhd brain)

Sarah Peper 🏳️‍⚧️

Agree with pretty much all of this. It honestly does help to be clear about your "need level". I support the work I want to make sure keeps happening, but when things get tight, I prioritize smaller creators who (I perceive) "need" it more. When you're like "y'all, I need money" I am more likely to keep this channel in my patron budget.

Lynnferno

I'm on the lowest tier, and to be honest, I am on the lowest tier for all the Patreons I support. No one has ever really offered me an incentive to move to a higher tier that I wanted. I just want to chuck the minimum amount I can to help out. There could be a point that your lowest tier is less expensive than all but one other creator by 2-3x. I recently had to drop a few creators that I really liked because a lot of the slowed their output, which is really valid, but it meant that I just wasn't engaging with their work anymore. But with new creators that I had started to support, and the bloody cost of living going up, I really couldn't justify the cost. I barely manage to keep it under $50AUD/month as it is.

LaterKater

That point about the streaming service pricing is a REALLY good point, thank you!

Philosophy Tube

Interesting! You might be surprised to learn then that I did Star Wars and HOTD in the same year and the amount I was paid for both was less than I paid in rent alone that year! Acting does not pay well lol. I'm also curious - so, right now Philosophy Tube pays for itself, there's a bit of separation in the finances between the show as an entity and me as an individual. But would you want me to use my own money to fund the show? No problem if that's the case, just trying to understand the layout here

Philosophy Tube

• What made you sign up to the Philosophy Tube Patreon? The “I emailed my doctor 133 times” video wherein you said, “Patreon dot fucking com: I’m not asking anymore.” I said, “Yeah that’s fair.”

Alice McPike

Same as many: limited budget, I move the money when something makes me think about it (this time, your email made me believe you needed some support). When channels seems very big I will tend to think they are doing good. I dont really care about rewards, the videos are my rewards

Camilo

> What made you sign up to the Philosophy Tube Patreon? Really enjoy the videos, they are well researched, and I feel long form, thoughtful, and niche content is hard to do and market, and really want to support people putting that effort in as it isn't available elsewhere. I also love the outfits. > What do you think might get someone else to sign up if they haven't already? The Patreon's I most enjoy are ones where there is interaction with the creator through the app - I support a smaller web comic and I just love the degree of chatter there is with the creator that generates this little bubble of community. I'll be honest, the BTS pics are awesome, but the Patreon for PT is a bit dry compared to other creators (not criticising, it's not why I signed up, just an observation). > Would you ever share a creator's Patreon on your own socials, or with friends? Would you ever share this one? Yes, but at the same time I avoid X and Facebook out of principle, if I share stuff it's in private channels. > The highest tier includes a guide to creating a YouTube channel, but I feel like not many people actually make use of that. Top tier patrons, do you agree? Is there something else that could be a good reward for the highest tier? I think folks able to drop that kind of money for support are doing it because they want to support PT, not get a reward. I'm one tier down from that, and getting a signed book was a lovely personal touch that felt great, but wasn't why I subbed, I think PT is doing something important and needs to continue to operate. I'd feel folks taking the highest tier are in a similar boat. If anything, something similar like the book or something personal would probably be a good hook.

Martin Buhr

I signed up because of a few specific banger episodes. I love almost all your videos, but a few of them hit especially hard. The cosmonaut, identity, emailing 147 times with your doctor, Judith Butler. I don't share stuff on social media, I barely have any. But in real life I recommend you to all my friends that are even remotely interested in left-wing or philosophy content. For me, I support you because I want to support you, pretty regardless of the bonus content. The behind the scenes videos and the bloopers are the bonus content I most enjoy. All the other things are welcome but not necessary for me. I guess the parasocial relationship works better through videos than through pictures/e-mails for me, haha. I share a belief that others have voiced, in that a creator with a larger platform has to hit a higher emotional threshhold for me to support them versus a creator with a smaller platform. If the credits of a video are already this long, then to many it looks like the creator is doing just fine, and adding their name to that list is not changing much. In that sense, you might be a victim to your own success. Still, your content was and continues to be very educational, inspirational and formative for me, that is what I am here to support.

Aischa

I haven’t changed my pledge level on your patreon, but I have upped in the past for other creators, and it was usually because of some new exclusive content. So I’m not sure what else you could offer, but is you, say, started doing a podcast with other left tubers or something (honestly just the first thing that came to my head and not even close to the best idea, probably) and made that exclusive to people subscribed to the tier above me or something (I cannot stress enough how important keeping it less than the price of a streaming service is - another YouTube channel I like has directors cuts for like 15 bucks or something and I signed up, binge watched and then dropped immediately, because that’s as much as it costs for some streaming services), I’d probably be all over that. No idea if you have time for any more projects or if my logic is the same as other people’s, but that’s my two cents

Angie

I became a member less for the content and more just to support the work itself (hence why I'm at a lower tier). I adore the main episodes (+ their respective livestreams), and so joined because I wanted to support their production, even if just a little bit. To that end though, I don't know if I'd jump up a tier. What I like about this platform is that it can keep various creators afloat, so I'd say I'm more likely to become a member of other creators' Patreons before going up a tier here just so I could spread my financial support a little further. That said, i think more casual videos could be good to maybe entice people? I consume everything you put out pretty much (ignoring when I can't watch for spoilers because I haven't gotten to HOT D season 2 yet :p) and reckon more chill content could bring people in. I thought the livestream highlight videos you've started doing this year were incredibly clever (you'd have the metrics to know if they were a success I assume), and think content like that but exclusive to Patreon could maybe help? .

Thomas Anderson

Free member: long time fan, sadly im an early retirery which leave me with very limited finances. I do however share most of your videos on social media. I would feel uncomfortable sharing the patron, but i think your videos are the best advertisement for your work anyway😊

Ronnie

I usually try to support creators i like and believe may need the support . I have upped the support on certain creators if there was content only available for another, yet still available tier. Especially with creators who (like you ;)) progressed from "thoughts in front of camera" to "professional movie built on philosophical thought" i'd be willing to pay for shorter, less researched, less edited content, maybe the intresting tangent that came up in research but didn't fit the main video...

Sara A.

As of what made me sign up, I just became financially capable enough to support creators that bring me joy. It's a priority for me generally, I just couldn't do it before. As of a tier I would personally like: more talking about your research. If it's about specific books and what made you reach for them & what you got from them or generally adding short notes to your bibliography. I'm very interested in your research

Forest Joy and Shahar Shrek

Like a few people have said, I effectively have a limited budget for Patreon and I sometimes move it around to much smaller channels that I perceive as needing it more. So it’s not specific to you Not sure if you’re familiar with CJ The X’s Patreon, but that has changed recently to include an album, film and book that they encourage you to read each month and then leave your thoughts about. I know that is a lot more involved, but I thought I’d mention it just in case it gives you ideas

Cliff

About signing up to patreon and moving up pledges, I'm afraid it's as you say, it entirely depends on my personal financial situation, not much you can do about it. I've had a list of creators I wanted to support when I had stable income, and that's what I've done as soon as I got a salary higher than an intern. I don't do it for any of the rewards, I'll take the discord access and early videos, but I don't use discord much ansd usually by the time I can see a video it's gone public anyway. Appearing in the credits feels warm, but I don't think I'd raise to any particular tier for that. It's the public videos and posts that brought me here in the first place and that is what would keep me here and make me reconsider how much to give. About sharing, I'll usually share videos or social media posts, not so much the patreon. I have shared public patreon posts I've found interesting though.

Am1vf

From the perspective of a free member, my financial status isnt where I'd like it to be, but mainly its that Im using this patreon as a way to keep up to date with you and your stuff, which is why the free tier and the announcements/news work best for me

TaveyMavey

I’m also interested in cross overs of philosophy, psychology ( and sociology I guess) because these ideas frame how we can discuss stuff. So yeah..

Lu

I lost my job a month after joining, I’m still unemployed. I enjoy the content, I am on nebula because of you.i watched draculas ex girlfriend, and just finished reading “Key Lime Sky” wondering who recommended it to me then read this email, it was you! I like discussion of philosophy, I tend not to remember what I read. So for me, streams discussing and comparing theories more, even the big boring ones, and how we are seeing them play out in the 21st century is my jam. The fact that your video essays are amazing memorable and educational is a bonus I didn’t expect.

Lu

I am one of the cancellers this month. The main reason is perceived success in your other ventures which I am very happy to see. I know you've said explicitly you know it can all go away in a flash and that the channel is the backbone of what you do. However, for now I feel my money is better going to smaller channels. I did sign up to Nebula for a year though so this could be seen as a pivot to a different income stream. I also saw The Prince when it was on so for me it feels like the same money leaves me in your direction. Hope this is insightful.

James Ulke

What made you sign up? I try to support most YouTube channels I regularly watch. Would you ever share a creator's Patreon on your own socials? Most likely not. Are there any new tiers or restructuring of tiers you'd like to see? I mostly don't really care about the perks. I decide on an amount independent of the tiers and pick the highest tier that applies (and set the custom amount).

Jonathan

I always find for me to sign up to a patreon usually requires either bonus material I really want to see, or some video having a real emotional connection with me. For this patreon I think it was the latter. When my financial situation has changed in the past, usually what makes me stay is bonus material. Personally, I'm never that fussed about livestreams (the format doesn't work for me), and while I always think the BTS pics are cool, I don't think it'd be enough for me to stay. On the other hand, I think a lot of podcasts have member only episodes which would mean I would be missing out on content I really enjoy if I unsubscribed. Likewise, some YouTube channels do this with deleted scenes, or full member only episodes like Contrapoints' tangents. Having that content there makes me less likely to leave once the emotional response that made me subscribe faded away.

zccajgb

> What made you sign up to the Philosophy Tube Patreon? What do you think might get someone else to sign up if they haven't already? For me it's always about trying to make sure people who make great stuff continue to make great stuff and enabling them. Something that may entice some people to sign up for a higher tier might be mini-reviews of the philosophy books you're reading or even a book club. Something like a once a month video where you talk about what you've recently read and what you thought about it. If you can go e people a heads up as to what you're reading, it could almost function as a philosophy book club, It doesn't need to be high-prep, but for those that really want to engage more in philosophy it might be a good perk because it lets people engage even more with the philosophy. As you're already reading a lot, hopefully it won't significantly add to your workload.

Josh Grey

I have a limited amount of disposable income and when I signed up for your patreon, you weren't as well-known as you are now. Basically I move the bit of cash I have from one creator to the next. I'm on someone's google family account so I have YouTube premium, it helps me feel a bit less guilty about all the creators I can't support directly, because at least (as I understand it) theres a better payoff from views with premium. But, yeah, essentially, not enough cash to go around

Alex England

Oh, I was one of the people who cancelled apparently! Yea, I had to cut a few creators because I'm broke. Honestly, and this is not meant to be something you're supposed to feel bad about, but I cancelled in part because of HOTD and all the other acting you're doing. That's great for you! But because I don't have the money to support all my creators (there are SO many) I try to prioritize based on who I watch the most and who I think needs it the most. I assumed you were making good money doing the other stuff I do still give Jenny Nicholson money despite her probably being richer than most now, but a the $2 level per month her exclusive monthly videos well worth that pledge, and since she rarely puts content on the main channel it makes sense to me. I'm hoping for a promotion next year. Hopefully I'll be back. Until then I do share videos that that I think others would like

Michael

> What made you sign up: Your videos are entertaining and I feel like I am learning something that I would not learn otherwise. I wanted to support that. Also, the way you conduct yourself makes you seem trustworthy. > Would you share the patreon: I do not rlly have social media but I have been telling ppl about your stuff. Personally, I find Nebula amazing and I mostly try and coax them towards that. > Moving up pledges: If I ever do that it is usually tied to my finances. I have a patreon budget that scales roughly linearly with my income, I.E. you cannot do much.

sörellos

I would absolutely LOVE to see quick little updates including stuff like book recommendations, other creators to check out, and similar stuff like that every now and again... I think that would make a lot of people feel more engaged with the page, and feel as if it's a worthwhile investment! I know it would definitely draw me back here a lot more frequently :))

Logan Q

I absolutely love Philosophy Tube and Kill James Bond, but I can only afford to pay for Nebula right now. If there was a way to get all three things without paying three different fees, I’d immediately go for that

MTheMagnificent

i signed up because i love your work and want to support you!! i think itd be cool if maybe there could be some patreon exclusive maybe low effort chill videos, like the tangents contrapoints does on her patreon, but i think ur talent is enough of a reason to sign up no matter what!!

plutonium

I personally usually sign up to Patreon just for supporting creators, not for the perks. However, I just thought that an interesting perk could be receiving some kind of "philosophy notes" — an interesting idea that you may have learned from your reading or elsewhere that's not big enough for a video but still thought-provoking. I would even move up a tier for that.

Lev

Maybe a little silly, but I used to be a member of a few artists patreons and I really enjoyed it when they posted polls for art related things. Maybe a patreon poll where we get to pick a prop or small set detail? It’s fun but also keeps current patrons engaged and feeling like they’re ~part of something~ and when the episode comes out, a large chunk of patrons will have a “hey it’s the thing I picked!” feeling. You could also tease things for upcoming polls on socials and bring people to patreon from there as well

Mari

> What made you sign up ... Approachable and fun form of philosophy topics and feeling the need to support a high value, high effort work. > Would you ever share a creator's Patreon Don't have any, doesn't apply, but I did share the videos in personal channels when they apply to something we talked about...

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