Why Overcast?
Added 2024-12-21 12:22:09 +0000 UTC(Ignore sky and fog, sky is for reference to real life comparison and I didn't replace fog yet :D)
Album: https://imgur.com/a/HR0K0zC
Game textures are not PBR textures, when its rendered with PBR sunlight its losing a lot of details compared to PBR textures and becomes washed out.
Even if game had PBR textures, sunlight is always going to reduce details and this is a problem because games already have minimal amount of details compared to real life.
Lets say even game had a lot of details, without very high quality micro shadows like in real life, you cannot see the details because of lack of micro shadows.
Overcast = no shadow = higher fps for everyone
People think sunlight helps to improve variety of lighting compared to overcast but its false because as you can see overcast weather can provide a lot of different variety of lighting.
I am also planning to make some extra performance improvements later inside rendering pipeline so you can actually get more fps compared to default lighting.
I understand people think sunlight looks good with default game lighting but its never going to be realistic because of these reasons.
Only reason scene doesn't lose a lot of details with default sunlight in game because sunlight is just brightness multiplier, it doesn't do any realistic lighting calculation.
I might add sunlight later with updates but I'm not sure yet. I want to focus on overcast lighting first because its the best way to get most realistic result. Sunlight is never going to be realistic as much as overcast :/
This is with sunlight https://i.imgur.com/0R4S6jn.jpeg Sure, it looks better than default lighting but still lost a lot of realism because of the points I mentioned.
When I'm going to release it?
First I need to make new weather system with some static background and dynamic clouds. Then I can release new lighting system without new foliage because it looks pretty good. I can add new foliage later.
Comments
How about a beta version for people to understand better and exchange ideas?
AnStaff
2024-12-28 18:16:02 +0000 UTCI think it would be cool to have the option for it. You have so many cool features to add to SCS games that I believe your mods will soon be a MUST HAVE for all the truckers out there. You have something special here!
Ian Matthews
2024-12-26 03:09:39 +0000 UTCHi, great mod, but what a shame not to do it anymore for the triple screens, I think I'll stop my subscription now
nonier
2024-12-25 22:49:57 +0000 UTCThe problem with volumetric clouds is its going to look cool for a few days then its going to look worse than skyboxes, because of lack of detail :/ Volumetric clouds are dynamic but you are not going to see them moving while driving because you are going to focus on road, only first a few days you are going to focus on clouds. Its a cool feature but its expensive to render and it looks worse than skybox etc so I don't think I should use volumetric clouds. What do you think?
Snowy Moon
2024-12-25 17:47:02 +0000 UTCwhat about the volumetric clouds?
Royeer Modding
2024-12-25 16:58:33 +0000 UTCWhy you use either reshade or nvidia filters to counter act that, I’d like a full sky sun rain overcast etc but it’s up to you at end of day
Zach Attack94
2024-12-25 00:49:34 +0000 UTCFor me realism is also associated with the current season in real life. For example I can't play "hot" games in winter and vice versa, so although I'm a guy who prefers sunny weather, I'm more than happy to play ets2 in overcast during this time. Thank you, I just hope that the sunny weather will also come out by spring / summer :)
BONK
2024-12-24 12:57:16 +0000 UTCSUPER!!!
Станислав Орлов
2024-12-23 03:11:08 +0000 UTCThat looks great! It improves the realism a lot! I would appreciate it if you added the sunny day version, even if it doesn't look as good as the cloudy day one. What a great job you do!!!
luciann iann
2024-12-23 00:01:17 +0000 UTCНе могу поверить что ETS 2 может выглядеть настолько круто. Snowy - ты талантище!
s3rgyk
2024-12-22 10:20:58 +0000 UTCThe sunlight photo looks pretty realistic to me. I'd appreciate it if you could release the mods for all weather conditions, not just overcast.
Giang Luu
2024-12-22 04:56:22 +0000 UTCImpressive stuff Snowymoon. Breath of fresh air knowing there will still be sunlight. Better than I expected, keep up the good work. A lot of us really appreciate what you do!
Pope
2024-12-22 03:23:31 +0000 UTCThis is a brilliant idea!!!
Ulf Bjarke
2024-12-22 02:48:54 +0000 UTCLove it man. What graphic mod is this? Textures look amazing! Is it PNG?
Boki
2024-12-21 23:43:24 +0000 UTCIndeed!
El Kamynante
2024-12-21 22:06:52 +0000 UTCI have not a clue regarding programing but I was always thinking that fukin sun broke my in-game graphic details (beside my eyes and badly. I figured out somehow it's not really a sun but somekind of extremely over-brightness thing). So I'm sure I'd very much love the lack of fukin sun (in game of course)! :-)))) Best regards!
El Kamynante
2024-12-21 22:05:49 +0000 UTCI guess Overcast makes sense for ETS2, since Europe is gray or rainy most of the year.
Laqueesha
2024-12-21 17:50:11 +0000 UTCImho useless like this but you do you.
Max S
2024-12-21 16:38:28 +0000 UTC<3
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 15:57:49 +0000 UTCI'm excited for what you have to offers despite all these negative comment. I'm happily patiently waiting to play and provide feedback.
maci kala
2024-12-21 15:56:00 +0000 UTCI care about graphics realism, nothing else matters because for me its the worst part of the game and probably for a lot of people. Also its not same weather, you just don't have sunlight :) Sometimes sun is going to be hidden behind a small cloud, sometimes its clear sunrise-sunset, sometimes its total overcast, also sometimes its going to be rainy.
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 15:54:29 +0000 UTCYou know it doesn't take 24 hours for a day/night cycle in the game right? How is that unrealistic? You just drive in realtime and only in daytime, not nights.
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 15:51:22 +0000 UTC"Sunlight is never going to be as realistic as overcast" If you're aiming for realism, I don't think having the SAME weather all the time is realistic at all.
funni man23
2024-12-21 15:35:24 +0000 UTCI want to have sunlight, that's all, I hope it will be something separate from the TAA or at least deselected.Moreover, even if we don't have sunlight, we also lose the night-day alternation, totally unrealistic, it's not a photo studio, it's a driving simulation, we have to stop there!
Vuzz Voom
2024-12-21 15:33:28 +0000 UTCThank you <3
Florian
2024-12-21 15:27:30 +0000 UTC<3 Merry Christmas <3
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 15:25:30 +0000 UTCIts not going to be same weather, just you are not going to see sunlight.
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 15:19:18 +0000 UTCThank you <3 You too <3
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 15:18:38 +0000 UTCThis is with sunlight https://i.imgur.com/0R4S6jn.jpeg Sure, it looks better than default lighting but still lost a lot of realism because of the points I mentioned.
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 15:14:32 +0000 UTCTalking about more realistic, I think driving around in overcast weather forever is not realistic at all. It sure is fun to look at it as it is more realistic looking but when it always stays the same weather it's just nonsense.
Mak
2024-12-21 14:37:03 +0000 UTCHello Snowy Moon, Wow, I'm so speechless about what you've come up with. All the greatest respect!!! I would be really looking forward to it if you could get the whole system so that you can play as realistically as possible without all the graphics and weather mods. I'll be happy if you publish it for Ats and Ets 2. And then let your system run on an Oled. I'm excited to see what it will look like?!. I wish you a happy holiday and a happy new year.
Florian
2024-12-21 14:26:18 +0000 UTCPerfect - thanks for the quick response. Then I'll wait patiently for your publication notification.:)
T wie Tom
2024-12-21 14:14:42 +0000 UTCHi, thank you <3 This is just going to replace lighting system and weather, you can use it with any other mod, it will override them
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 14:05:23 +0000 UTCHi Snowy Moon, I've been driving with your graphics optimizations (TAA&Co) since version 1.49 (ETS2+ATS). To put it clearly: ONLY this gives the game (for whatever reason SCS doesn't manage to do this so 'perfectly') real added value visually for me as a frequent driver [and realistic nerd]. A big thank you for that! I'm following your current project with interest - although even in IRL you rarely see a completely cloud-free sky and pure sunshine. (Except perhaps in the southernmost countries - ETS2 and Texas - ATS) I'm a little worried after you finish and publish your 'extension' and then use it as a result of whether I'll be able to continue using my "beloved seasonal mods" from Grimes. Thank you again for your intensive and cool work(s)! Best wishes and Merry Christmas TT - Trucker Tom
T wie Tom
2024-12-21 13:58:39 +0000 UTCThank you <3
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 13:24:13 +0000 UTCYeah, I'm pretty sure people are not going to want realistic graphics and lighting. Default weather/lighting and other mods are not even close to these pictures.
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 13:22:48 +0000 UTCThe fact that it's just an overcast weather system I kind of fail to see how this is significantly better than the vanilla or a few weather mods around... It feels like it would be too small of a change to an already dreary and quite boring game TBH and your time and talent could be better used for something else IMHO.
Roberto Enduro
2024-12-21 13:11:22 +0000 UTChopefully you give a realistic fog effect to the street light spotlights
F H L V S
2024-12-21 13:03:42 +0000 UTCokay , hope it goes smoothly.. i love your hard work bro
F H L V S
2024-12-21 13:02:20 +0000 UTCWooow
Faouzi Achraf
2024-12-21 12:56:13 +0000 UTCOh also I'm going to use some flowmaps to animate static clouds and it should look better than volumetric clouds when I use both flowmaps and dynamic 2d clouds <3
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 12:46:15 +0000 UTCOh also I'm going to use some flowmaps to animate static clouds and it should look better than volumetric clouds when I use both flowmaps and dynamic 2d clouds <3
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 12:46:13 +0000 UTC<3
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 12:43:33 +0000 UTCVolumetric cloud doesn't look that realistic also its pretty performance heavy :/ I think people think it looks cool but problem is its going to be cool for 2-3 days, then you are never going to notice movement of clouds :D So I think its better to use static background + some dynamic 2d realistic clouds for movement.
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 12:42:20 +0000 UTCVolumetric cloud doesn't look that realistic also its pretty performance heavy :/ I think people think it looks cool but problem is its going to be cool for 2-3 days, then you are never going to notice movement of clouds :D So I think its better to use static background + some dynamic 2d realistic clouds for movement.
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 12:42:11 +0000 UTCI might add night system later but if I don't do that, you can instantly disable my lighting system in game when its night to switch default night lighting <3
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 12:40:46 +0000 UTCWill you still use volumetric cloud later?
F H L V S
2024-12-21 12:37:19 +0000 UTCUnderstood, whatever is best buddy! Will the clouds be volumetric? One of my dreams is volumetric clouds, imagine seeing a rain cloud forming in the distance (it doesn't necessarily have to be in sync with the rain, but it would be beautiful).
Lohran B.
2024-12-21 12:31:31 +0000 UTCIncredible 😲
Nuke Nabber
2024-12-21 12:31:18 +0000 UTCThis looks incredible, Snowy! Being used to overcast weather in real life (typical for Ireland), I find this addition makes the game feel so much more immersive. I voted for the day/night cycle mainly because I enjoy driving at night, not so much because of the intense sunlight during the day. I hope a balance can be achieved between the two, but what you’ve shown here is truly impressive. Keep up the amazing work, and wishing you a wonderful festive season! 😄
Topo
2024-12-21 12:31:05 +0000 UTCLooks amazing real
Nuke Nabber
2024-12-21 12:31:05 +0000 UTCFirst I need to make a new weather system for the game, then I think I can release it even without new foliage. Because it looks pretty good, I can change foliage later. So I'm not sure yet, depends on the time I'm going to spend for new weather system
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 12:27:53 +0000 UTCLooks good. When will it be available?
Cristi Popa
2024-12-21 12:24:41 +0000 UTC
