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One Tree Hill 2x19, 2x20

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Just happy these episodes got us closer to season 3!!! I can’t wait to see your reactions to seasons 3 and 4!!

Ashley Kinney

The CW LOVED a backdoor pilot. They did it a couple times on The Vampire Diaries and Supernatural.

Desiree Mclaughlin

Omg !!!! That’s why she looks so familiar!! She is very like her mum.

Giorgia M

Thanks for the info!! Once I said it, i was thinking I’d just imagined it 😂

Giorgia M

I’ve heard that as well, that they originally wanted CMM to have the role of Nathan, but he wanted to be Lucas instead. I’m glad it worked out that way. I cannot imagine anyone other than James as Nathan. Also, I second the 3 episode upload!!

Kelsey

I loved the "what if" episode. It really gave Nathan perspective and made him look at what their choices really mean. I love when Nathan learns things that make him grow. Cooper mentioned in the last episode the reason he was there was perspective and I think they carried it over to the dream. Nathan gained perspective on how the choices Dan, Deb and Karen made as kids (getting married so young and having kids of their own) really affected them and changed their lives. Even in this, Dan is still bitter, resentful, living in the past, (because circumstances prevented him from following his dreams) and taking it out on everyone around him. Dan is this way no matter which woman or son he chose. Knowing who Lucas is now, and seeing who he was when raised by Dan, confirms Dan ruins lives. As for Karen and Deb, like present Deb, this Karen is not happy with Dan and like present Deb, she was looking for happiness outside of the marriage. She threw herself into her work and was having an affair with Keith. As for this Deb, like present Karen, she was shown to have made sacrifices for the choices she made when she was young, dedicating her life to her son and putting her dreams on hold. Lucas is able to see this everyday with his mother, but I don't think Nathan has thought about it. The sacrifices and lost dreams are easier to see in this Deb as opposed to present messy Deb. I liked that through his dream, Nathan was able to figure this out. I loved Nathan and Deb's conversation when he woke up. Nathan holds grudges and holds onto his anger. He's been angry at his mother for a long time, with good reason, but at the end of the day she's human and makes mistakes. Him understanding, letting go of his anger and forgiving her will only make him better in the long run. Glad she's going to get help and work on her relationship with him. He needs her support and she needs his. The "what if" with Haley here is what if he and Haley married someday, way down the road, when they were adults, after they both realized what their dreams were and went for them, as opposed to today, when they are kids, not really knowing who they are or what makes them happy. They are choosing the course of their lives so soon. There are just so many different directions your life can take at this age when it's just yourself you have to consider. You need time to explore it all and figure it out. Marriage and kids can really limit your possibilities and does not afford you that time. Sacrifices might have to be made. 16/17 is just really young to face this reality. He also concluded, through this newfound perspective he didn't want him and Haley to be Dan/Karen or Dan/Deb or Haley to become Deb. Up until this point (well also his conversation with Cooper) he hadn't really thought about how chosing to give up his dreams would affect him or her and them as a couple later and that getting married so young, while they had their whole lives ahead of them was the maybe the wrong choice. Going after their dreams is the opposite choice, at least for Nathan, so maybe that's the right one, which is why he is so adamant about Haley not coming home. Ofc he loves her, but maybe they are better off doing their own thing. Basically, he doesn't want to become Dan and he doesn't want Haley to become Deb. Can't wait for season 3!!! It's my 2nd favorite after season 4.

Heather

That would make sense about the spinoff. WB/CW did almost the same thing with Gilmore Girls (trying not to give too much away since I know Michael is watching GG on his own time).

CGoerlich

The woman playing Daytona is Sissy Spacek’s daughter. That first episode was a little rough in my opinion. It just felt like major filler. The dialogue felt really stilted and clunky all around. And to introduce all these characters that just sort of disappear afterwards makes it feel even more like filler.

Desiree Mclaughlin

It definitely had that backdoor pilot feel to it.

Desiree Mclaughlin

I always loved the Uncle Cooper introduction episode. It felt very different, but it was nice to see Nathan and Lucas in a different element. The guy playing the younger brother to Daytona is James Lafferty (Nathans) real brother. I also could be making up a memory but I feel like they were considering making a spin off with Uncle Cooper and his Race car people so that is why it felt almost like a "side quest" episode. I started watching one tree hill back when it came out, and no matter how many times I have watched it season 2 was always my least fav season of the first few seasons. But watching it through your eyes has given me a very different appreciation for it, it has been so enjoyable. I am so pumped to get to season 3 it is one of my favourites.

Dani May

These episodes definitely felt more tv targeted pace, I feel like they could've being compressed to one single episode. OMG Dan is so odious, even in the dream episode with him playing a different way, I can't see his face without a visceral reaction. And completely agree with you, I hope we don't get a Chris with Haley romance storyline. At the same time I'm kind of excited to see where Nathan's character is going after this closure.

Mariana

he's a scumbag irl so playing the asshole should be easy for cmm 😂 i am so excited for season 3!!! seconding the request for a 3 parter upload to send off season 2 🥺🤍

ang

Yes, you're right about the dealership being originally Keith's idea & dream.

CGoerlich

Great reaction as always. So this might be a shock to you, but I actually don't have much to say 😂 The only thing I guess I can say is the "what if" episode is interesting because I'm pretty sure Chad Michael Murray originally auditioned for the role of Nathan and James Lafferty may have been Lucas. Not sure about James but I do remember hearing that CMM was going to be Nathan. So I think this gave us not only the "what if" about who Dan marries, but also the "what if" they kept CMM as Nathan. Interesting to think about. So since there are three episodes left, do you think we could get a 3-episode upload???? I can't wait for season 3, even though personally seasons 4 & 6 are my two favorites. Can't wait for the next upload!!!

CGoerlich

I think in the past they mentioned that the dealership was Keith’s idea and Dan stole it or something? So maybe Nathan was just playing out a reality where Dan is miserable, pathetic and penniless which fit with history of Dan and Keith? Idk it seems funny that he’s got Dan answering to someone else and Haley is back with him. Defo Nathan’s fantasy.

Giorgia M

I can't wait until season 3 it's one of my favorite

Portia Crain

Okay, the first episode felt like filler even though stuff was happening and the alternate reality episode is my least favourite of the season I think. Chad Michael Murray makes much a good bad boy in Gilmore Girls as Tristan but in this it feels so off and cringey! Maybe Nathan can’t really imagine him being as convincing a bad guy as he was, maybe that’s my head canon lol. It’s the worst, I hate going back to the start!! But it’s even worse than the start!! As if Keith would ever treat Dan like that, he doesn’t turn into Dan just because he was more successful. Oh, it makes me angry to watch lol but I have to remember, it’s just Nathan’s version of if things had been different.

Giorgia M


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