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LGBTQIA+: Gender & orientation Overhaul: Identities & Transition, In-Depth Orientations, Optional Auto-Assign, & more - Sims 4

Check Global Update Notes post for Latest Update notes.

** MOD DESCRIPTION HERE **

- (this is due to EA) if you change pronouns through my interactions, the change will not reflect on buffs (moodlets) until the next time there's a loading screen. They'll reflect right away on other stuff.

- Sims who are canonically non-cis/het might not be given the right identity by the auto-assign (example: Morgyn Ember.)
Fix it up manually if it came out wrong.
Pre-existing couples get assigned orientations based on their relationships, so that shouldn't be as bad in terms of 'wrong assigns'.

For some of them, I could give them a fixed auto-assign (Morgyn again haha), but I'd need to know exactly their identity etc for that, and it's not officially said anywhere.

- For anything else, see mod description.

****** PURE COMPATIBILITY QUESTIONS:

- Mc WooHoo's "No Strings WooHoo" / "Allow Friendlier WooHoo Partners setting is Incompatible. Note that this mod comes with its own setting that amounts to the same thing. DISABLE that MCCC Setting.

- No other known mods with compatibility problems / adjustments!

***** QUESTIONS OF INTEGRATION:

- Turbodriver's mods will recognize sexual orientations from this mod in their sexual attraction systems. However, note that his mods look only at CAS gender, and not gender identities from my mod. And, romantic orientations will not be looked at by his mods - their system having to do with sexual attraction.

*** If you are another modder wondering about how this will work with your mod / wanting to integrate, contact me! I can share some info and pre-built tools with you to achieve that ***

See on my website HERE.

Thanks to Frankk, Lot51, LeRoiDeTout and TwelthDoctor1 for their  invaluable python script tutorials /snippets and being there to help  when others need it!
Thanks to testers.
Thanks to MonoChaos for the collab on surgery scars!

TRANSLATIONS AVAILABLE:

See here: https://lumpinoumods.com/translations/

- IF UPDATING: delete previous .package and .TS4SCIPT files for this mod of course!

- Download the .zip file and extract it. Then install in the mods folder or in one subfolder (no deeper).

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- If you've installed and don't see the mod's menu on the active sim, Make sure that you have installed properly:

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NEED HELP? Check compatibility, download instructions and description links in this post. If they don't answer your question, contact me on Discord, here in comments or messages, or through the contact form on my website.

Find Index of All Mods here.

Lumpinou_LGBTQIA.zip

Comments

Hi check the compatibility section re your mccc settings

Lumpinou

hiya, i love this mod but i'm having an issue and i don't know if it's because of the new game update. my sims are refusing to woohoo with people they're in relationships with and i get the popup that the sim isn't attracted to masculine/feminine sims even when they have the bisexual or pansexual trait. is there something i can do to fix this?

Mauwa

Hey love this mod but I am experiencing an issue in gameplay and I am hoping it is just a setting that I have not set correctly or possibly missed. When I have my male sim transition all is fine until they get top surgery. At this point in attractions and other interactions in the game he is recognized as a female. Hopefully you can tell me its just a setting and how to fix this please?

ww

Hi, yes, the 'not allowed to change' serves to mark that, regarding what occurred with that particular sim I can't say - in your settings did you set it to still allow even when that's on? I believe there's a setting of that sort

Lumpinou

hello ! this mod is awesome and i love all your work, thank you for making all your mods! i have a question apologies if it's been answered but i couldn't find a direct answer for it; when looking at my sim's hidden traits, it has the 'identity/orientation not allowed to change' and 'ran discovery chances.' however, in another save, a sim that had those hidden traits still later discovered they're aroace, so i'm not sure if i have something wrong in my settings? i have all auto related settings on since i enjoy my sims just going with the flow, but sometimes the first sim i make i want set in their gender and orientation so i manually pick them through the mod pie menu, so i'm not sure what causes a discovery to still happen. sorry if this is convoluted, i just wanted to know if i can allow played sims to still self discover and be auto assigned identities while one specific played sim doesn't? no problem if it's not do-able :)

cheri

Hi, your sim had an auto assign happen then! Self discovery is a separate setting. Auto assign doesn't necessarily play into it, ie, if a sim was auto assigned straight they could still find they're bi or gay, if a sim was auto assigned gay they might find they're bi, etc. Same as if assigned nothing

Lumpinou

hi! i love this mod but the wording in settings has been confusing me, so i'd love some clarification. do my played sims need to have auto assign on for self discovery to happen? i hadn't encountered it yet when i had auto assign off for played sims, so i tried turning auto assign on and had one of my children age up and immidiately get the genderfluid trait with no discovery prompts. i'm not sure if i'm just misintepreting the settings amgmekg.

Roenais

I had a sim with an unexpected crush. They confessed to their crush (and it was accepted). When I went to the romance interactions, there weren't any, not even grayed out. I feel I may have messed up a setting somewhere, and I can't figure out which one(s). Any ideas as to which setting(s) it could be? Maybe I am missing an additional mod I overlooked? When I manually change their orientation to be compatible with the crush, the interactions appear again. I also have RPO and WW installed, and I do not have MCCC Woohoo installed. For packs, I have all major except the new Enchanted pack.

giakop

There was one for the patch

Lumpinou

Is there a update

Babe

Hi, in our experience, this is due to CCs - changing the Sim's frame in and off itself (which the hrt does) is not a source for problems

Lumpinou

hello im having issues with my trans sim being able to to change presets once done with hormone therapy, is there something im not doing correctly?

kikovanity

Hi, none of my mods allow any sort of romance between teens and older, and as far as I remember this as the same tests as everything else 🤔 do you have anything that might have interfered, just to eliminate that possibility?

Lumpinou

Hello! I wanted to ask, is there any way to limit unexpected crushes by the age of the sims involved? My teen sim got an unexpected crush on an elder 😭 I really loved that one of my active sims got a random unexpected crush, but the age difference was just way too creepy to let it happen! I read the mod description page and looked through the settings, but I didn't see anything about age (although I might have missed it--if that's the case, sorry for the unnecessary question!).

Susie Q.

Hi, you'd need to send the error report file on discord so we can look at it for you :)

Lumpinou

Hi, I'm having an issue where I'm getting an error saying the Tuning script is bad for the mod. I've deleted it and redownloaded but it's still happening. Any ideas what I can do to resolve it? Thank you!

AlexBug

Hi, that sure is very weird. I recommend trying with no mods except the latest version of lgbtqia and mccc and with another couple and report back

Lumpinou

Hi Lumpinou, I am having an issue when my sims woohoo their traits changes to celibate, asexual, and graysexual and throws an LE. These are not their assigned traits. I have mccc friendlier woohoo disabled and I have the updated RPO and LGBTQ mods installed. I removed the settings file, cleared my caches and the issue persists. I am stumped.

A simmer

Hi, have you checked your mccc settings for compatibility with the compatibility section?

Lumpinou

I had the same issue as Nectotic Witchery with my sims. I tested with no other mods and it kept happening. Kept getting the "not interested in a sim they aren't romantically compatible with" pop up no matter what I did (I went as far as testing to make them both pan and no dice). I ended up having to uninstall the mod and you know how much I love this one so that was painful. I am happy to send you a save file for you to review; let me know.

Simslegacy5083

Hi, in case you use mccc check the compatibility section in this post regarding mccc settings. If that's not it, try with no other mods installed and report

Lumpinou

Hello Lumpinou, I have a bug where my male sim attracted to feminine sims has romance options still pop up for his friend in game when in settings I have the option checked: "Grey out interactions if other speaker doesn't fit Speaker's Orientation" plz help. Thanks. P.S. Romance and Friendship option to block / decide not to develop romantic feelings for a sim causes a LE to pop up.

moonlightsimmer

Just noticed the mod does not work on Sim Ghosts...

Aunty Slime

this is the first mod i look for after the patch

Duwhatgsimsdu

Hi, Sims only get stuff auto assigned at their first appearing in the world. They wouldn't change their name autonomously after that because they're part of the pool of Sims you might be playing or involved with. So I suspect something else might have changed the name 🤔

Lumpinou

Hello, would it be possible to add a notification if a Sim my Sim knows makes some orientation/identity change, or an autonomous 'Tell About Identity and Orientation' targeted to my Sim? My Sim was FWB with a female Sim and when I went to invite them over they'd changed their name and pronouns. I loaded into their house to do some gender-affirming stuff for them but I was just confused because their name had changed lol

magneticsouth

Hi, , my sim is trans(femme to masc) and had top surgery but now when they get busy (wicked whims style) it makes them have on pants the entire encounter, did i do something wrong maybe?

Kenaysha Clemons

Hi it's due to your mccc,, check compatibility section on this post

Lumpinou

I'm not sure if something broke with the Oct. 2, patch, but my sims will no longer woohoo with each other. I've taken all my mods out and narrowed it down to an issue with the LGBTQIA mod. I first replaced MCC and tested out. The woohoo interaction worked just fine. Then I put the LGBTQIA mod back in and ran into issues. I'm getting 'This sim is not interested in Woohoo due to not interested in woohoo with women' when my lesbian sim tries to Woohoo with her spouse. I'm also getting this with my heterosexual couples. Right now, the only mods I have in my game are MCC and the LGBTQIA mods. I don't know if anyone else has run into this or if it's just my rotten luck. I do have the 2.3v of the LGBTQIA mod installed. I double and tripled checked that just to be sure.

CJ

Hi, you will be able to choose in most cases, usually only Sims with the 'phobic' trait will just default to being negative

Lumpinou

hi! sorry if i missed this information elsewhere, but with negative reactions on, do i have control over which sims will have negative reactions? i want realistic gameplay but i don't want sims to be randomly homophobic if it isn't in line with the character i've given them

Charlotte Bloys

I've actually noticed that too when making a new save to troubleshoot the mod with my kissing issue. The game says it's in the mod folder and therefore in the game but once I get to the sims in game it's not available to interact with in the wheel options. Managed to somehow gain access to it once thought "testcheating on" and shift click during one out of 8 restarts of the game but that might have been a fluk because I could not do it again after restarting the game? Been very confusing. And just like you with the old saves it was accessible with no issues.

Necrotic Witchery

hi, I am having some problems with assigning the gender and orientation. When I click on my sim the gender and orientation does not show up on the wheel for me to select so I assign. It shows up in my old saves but I am making a new one and it will not show up. I have taken the mod out and put it back in even tried to make another new save but it still does not show.

Easter

Hi! Nobody else has reported anything like that so, I'd recommend checking with several Sims, and while no other mods are installed

Lumpinou

Hey, not wanting to disturb too long. I just wanted to mention an observation I've had with the Mod. Ever since the latest patch update to the game last week my sims despite being compatible before the patch will no longer allow their romantic partner any form of kissing after said patch. Removed the Mod to make sure if it was it causing this issue and it went away when removed from the Mod Folder. Just thought to mention it just in case. Wish you a continuing good week in the meantime. 😊

Necrotic Witchery

Hi, You're on the download page right now :)

Lumpinou

hi! where may i find latest update for LGBTQIA Mod?

Meg

For the patch

Lumpinou

Hello when was the last update?

Juliana

Hi, you might have missed the rules channel on the discord, where you need to click a reaction to be able to post. As for your issue, no that would not be a deliberate thing; I don't see a cause in the code either. We'd have to check with no other mods and in a new save to be sure we're narrowing things down

Lumpinou

Hi, I tried posting this to your discord but I'm blocked for some reason (I just subscribed to you here). I'm noticing that when I go into settings for this mod and put "0" for the % of NPC sims set to aromantic and asexual, then *all* of the NPC sims become aromantic and asexual. Is that because you haven't allowed for it to be set to 0? Or because I'm misinterpreting the meaning of the setting? Or maybe there's a mod conflict or something?

Ero Flyn

Hi, what are you trying to do related to the trait

Lumpinou

Hi, WW doesn't recognize the gender fluid stuff of this mod so that's what's what. Not sure how possible integrations would be considering other factors involved

Lumpinou

Why isn't the phobic trait working? Im doing a storyline with two lesbian teens and their parents are awful and homophobic so they run away together. I gave them the traits but i don't know why it's not working

Cloverkins

Not sure if this is caused by your mod or wicked whims, but is there anyway to make it so sims attracted to feminine sims will accept s*x with a genderfluid sim who's CAS gender is male?

I'mJustGabe

Hi, I understand your point of view. Here is the logic of the mod: if a sim gets auto assigned identities, they can get auto assigned having done some choices in accordance with that, to simulate their life. An Elder probably already changed their name and such, for example. Younger Sims have fewer chances of getting stuff like that auto assigned and for any played sim, you can turn off auto assign for played Sims for example. It would not be realistic to assign identities to sims in the world but none of them has made any life choice to feel in accordance with their true self, wouldn't it? I understand it can be inconvenient if you want to play all these sims but in that case I recommend turning off auto assign for played Sims at least

Lumpinou

Hi, no, but the BG ones are integrated with the mod :)

Lumpinou

Not sure if you already answered this question, but do you happen to have a copy of MonoChaos’ functional binder cc? Or do you know of any binder cc that’s compatible with your mod?

Perfect Cyan

Hi, I don't know if it is an intended feature or a bug, but I've changed the settings to auto-assign identities and orientation for everyone, and I've noticed that those who were assigned to be trans had already changed names and bodies. I would have liked to do it through gameplay so I was wondering if it's possible to modify this?

chucchukk

I don't know anything about modding and have no idea how difficult it might be, but would it be possible that trans teen sims would need to ask for their parents permission before going on HRT or doing gender-affirming surgery and if they say no you get options to convince them and until then you can't do it? I just feel like that would make the gameplay more realistic :3

SpookyCece

Hi, that's not possible in fact due to EA code, so that part of the text is just 'for storytelling'

Lumpinou

Hi! This mod is awesome. I'm using it for the first time with a trans masc sim. They've gotten to the third stage for HRT (saying they can grow body and facial hair). Their body hair is coming in fine, but I can't seem to find where I would manipulate/change/select for facial hair. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thank you ~~

Aaron Burnell

I need a German Translation please

Vanessa Lu

https://www.patreon.com/RoshySims

RoshySims

Spanish translation on my Patreon

RoshySims

Thank you for all the mods you create. I don't think I would be playing The Sims 4 if it wasn't for your mods and those of other creators. I have a question / feature request regarding the LGBTQIA+ mod. I play the game on long lifespan and I was wondering if it would be possible to make the gender-affirming options (like the hormone replacement therapy and voice therapy) take longer? It would be great if the player could set the length, like the pregnancy length in MC Command Center, but making the options take, for example, twice as long when playing on a long lifespan would be great as well. I have no idea how hard it would be to make a change like this, but I hope you can take a look if it is something you can and want to do.

TheWorldsAddress

Hi! Status of all mods is always listed in the index. Last update date is in update notes of each individual mod

Lumpinou

Is this mod up to date?

Crazygirl11683

Not at the moment

Lumpinou

Just wanted to give you a headsup that the monochaos link to download isnt working. It leads to the page but the link to download on the site is going to a mirrror website that doesnt have the file anymore. Do you possibly know of an alternative place to download the file?

Naturalitarian

My sim who is male has his orientation set to being able to be romantically and sexually attracted to males. Thing is he still flirts, is romantic and woohoos with women. Have I missed something in the settings?

Aniis

Give an identity to your Sim and make sure they're not in a dorm. Appartements miiiight be an issue too

Lumpinou

How do I give my sim the option for reassignment surgery? it's just showing to opt for non medical transition like speech therapy and walk classes. on a premade sim they have the bottom and top surgery traits but im confused on how to gain them.

Johnna Collins

WW body parts must be taken care of via WW, my mod can't

Lumpinou

one thing i've had with this is my Sim after bottom surgery still has a penis. In CAS she doesnt but in game she does. Not sure if theres a fix for that?

Niamh Cara

Hi, Share the report please otherwise I can't help :) There are no known errors with this mod

Lumpinou

I keep gettig a BE error with this

dipsiesnows

Love this mod; would just like to suggest when Sim has realization, perhaps a rabbit hole or phone/pc option to get 'counseling' or go to a 'support group' to help work it out.

Positively SIMful

It does it individually per sim. Every time a sim appears for the first time or ages to teen, they will go through it. If you manually assign stuff to a sim, auto assigns will not change that

Lumpinou

Thank you so much for this amazing mod ! Its exactly what i needed I love it. I have a, maybe stupid, question, sorry! I enabled all of the automatic settings and i want to know if it only sorty the traits automatic to all sims or if there is a time where it sorts it new every few days7week? Because i enabled it and will now check on all my hoseholds what it gave to the sims and will change it manually for some sims. and i dont want it to change for this one but i want it to manually give them when family members grew up to teenagers or if the game generates new sims. sorry for the bad english btw

Sleepsalotl

I absolutely love this mod! Just one small problem I've been experiencing with it. When a sim gets an unexpected crush, they're unable to reconsider their orientation even if their friendship bar with the sim they're crushing on is all the way maxed out. Do you know if it might be a potential conflict with another one of my mods, or if its a problem with this one itself?

leiftheleaf

in german here https://www.patreon.com/posts/lgbtqia-und-v2-3-87117611?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

Germanmodsi

No

Lumpinou

Is this broken with the newest version?

TheeScamily

Hi, never heard of anything like this, so you should next test it again with all mods and cc out of the game except this one (don't save the game during that test!!!!) and let me know the result :)

Lumpinou

I love this mod, but I have noticed a small issue. When my female sim transitions to male, I'm not able to modify the sim's body anymore. I can change clothes with no issue, but after making changes to the sim's body (change shoulder size etc...) in CAS it just reverts back in live mode. Any ideas what could be causing this?

Thunder2079

If you don't see it for a specific sim, re do their assignments with the 'quick assignments' menu and it should un glitch itself

Lumpinou

I don't know if I am doing something wrong but there is no option to come out.

Phant0mGam3sYT

Aw thanks for the kind words ✨

Lumpinou

I have been waiting to download this until it was out for a while and now is so the time because I just saw someone else using it. Then realized I wasn't a patreon to you?! I use so many of your mods I feel like a CRIMINAL for waiting for them to be public release. Love your work!!

Shawna Jackson

okay sounds good!

ristka

OK. This is all really hard to check via a platform that doesn't allow images and files, so, if you could come over to the discord server, then we can check more :)

Lumpinou

checking on my own sim! I don't have an actions button when I click on them

ristka

What sim are you checking on?

Lumpinou

Sorry, misread the question!

Lumpinou

hi! i've downloaded the mod and followed all the steps but the pie menu still doesn't show up for me? I have MCC and other mods installed and they seem to run fine--any help would be appreciated!

ristka

Hi there, So I have a stupid question. My teen sims are no longer getting the lgbtqia pie menu option. Is this a change? or a bug, or am I just imagining that they had this option? O.O''. I did remove the 'localthumbcache' in my sims folder, and I removed the old mod and updated it with the new. but it didn't help. Thank you for your time :)

Alysen

Either via 'romance and friendships' or via the phone app :)

Lumpinou

Ohhhhh. I failed to mention, but I did at some point do that too just to see if that would fix anything. Speaking of the Meet & Mingle app, I did download that too on its own as well. How do I access it in game?

Whyarewestillhere

Hi, you can get your setting file back from your computer bin if you want. That file however doesn't contain your sim's orientations, it contains only the mod settings, and its deletion cannot remove anything loaded on your sims :) only thing that can do that is saving without the mod installed. Meet&Mingle isn't available in the Lgbtqia Mod anymore because it has been Expanded and improved and became its own mod in the RPO collection

Lumpinou

Hi there! So I just downloaded the new version of this mod, but now my Meet and Mingle mod doesn't work at all. I tried doing what you said and deleting the global settings thing out of my saves, but all that did was delete all the orientation and identity settings I had for all my Sims. 😅

Whyarewestillhere

You'd have to remove the relationship status with cheats and then they could do it again :)

Lumpinou

hey I have a question!! i am planning a lets play where one of my sims is rejected by their phobic sister. unfortunately I accidently had him come out before I toggled the "allow negative interactions" switch in the settings menu, so when he came out, she was fully supportive, which completely conflicts with the storyline I was going for. i can't seem to reverse it and have him come out again, what can I do?

sophia g.

hi, it seems like this mod conflicts with your dating app mod and private practice?

Amelia

thanks :)

Atlas

Hmm, I see. I'll check it up

Lumpinou

By the manual change I mean clicking on the sim>orientation and identity>decisions on genderfluidity expression>(I already have "reflect identity shifts through gender expression" enabled, and the"change expression" option only shows up when "reflect identity" is enabled)>"Genderfluid: Change gender expression (now: X-leaning)". In place of the X is either "Fem", "Masc", or "NB". When I click that option it brings me to an input feature called "Genderfluid: Current Gender Expression" and prompts me to input 0,1,2,3, or 4 to indicate "Nothing", "remove", "fem", "masc", and "NB". When I input 2 for "fem" it gives me an alert that the identity has shifted to fem, but it doesn't do that when I input masc or NB. As far as I can tell, "remove" just disables the "reflect identity" option, and "nothing" keeps it enabled but removes the "change expression" option.

Atlas

Hi, It can normally switch to any, it just doesn't always switch, it can take a day or several or not change for longer then change. Not sure I totally get what you are saying about the manual change but I'll check it up when I have some time

Lumpinou

I love this mod so much! It's added a lot more depth to my gameplay. I just got my first genderfluid sim though and am having some issues with the genderfluid-specific features. I think the idea is great, especially with the changing pronouns and outfits option. Once my sim had the trait, they started out "NB-leaning" (gender-neutral outfit and they/them pronouns) and everything was going smoothly. While they slept I got an alert that their fluid identity had shifted to "fem-leaning" and they went about their next day using she/her and wearing the fem outfits. This was all going great until I noticed they hadn't shifted in a few days and I was still curious. There's an option to manually select the identity the sim is leaning toward so I used that and input "2" for masc and nothing happened. There wasn't a notification and the pronouns and outfit didn't change. The manual selection option always displays a "now" message for the way the sim is currently leaning and it did say masc, but that was the only difference I noticed. I switched it manually to NB-leaning and the result was the same. When I switched it back to fem-leaning, it gave me the alert that the pronouns and expression had "changed". Is there a way I can get it to work normally and auto-switch to any identity and not just fem? This sim is afab so maybe that has something to do with it? I'm not sure; any help is appreciated :)

Atlas

Hi again, just several more of your messages that hadn't gone through. The Patreon app eats up comments, sorry for the mess and illogical responses. This mod has been playtested at great length by me and testers already and we've not had such issues that I can recall. I have a Woohoo favorable demiromantic ace couple in game and all has been working for them as usual. However they are not aro so that's a bit different. I see now that you said you tried with no other mods in at all. If such is the case, we can rule out interference. Here's the next idea: it's best to test separately also for ace + alloro, aro + allo sexual, and then aro ace to pinpoint exactly where things don't behave as expected for your sims. That gives me critical data to check up both in game and in code. Thanks. (side note I am going to bed so I'm not looking at things until day again, so don't worry about delays :))

Lumpinou

I ask that you please playtest this. Set two sims as a married couple, make Sim 1 aroace and romance/woohoo-favorable, and make Sim 2 perform romantic and sexual advances on them. Even when the advances *do* succeed, there is a notification stating that they're incompatible.

BloomPupz

I already said that I removed WW, and it's still a problem. It says that asexual woohoo-favorable is incompatible for woohoo, and also says that aromantic romance-favorable is incompatible for romance.

BloomPupz

Hi, this is actually a WW thing and not my mod :) My mod sets the cas gender orientation for Sims. WW reads that, and requires that Sims have matching romantic and sexual orientation to allow sex. Asexual in the game and therefore in WW is considered non matching. Same for aro. In my mod, it is matching. My mod will let Sims Woohoo so long as their sexual orientation matches. I hope that makes sense!

Lumpinou

It seems like selecting "asexual woohoo-favorable" just makes the sim's sexual orientation mimic whatever gender they're romantically attracted to. If they're romantically attracted to women, they're okay with sex with women. If they're romantically attracted to men, they're okay with sex with men. If they're biromantic or panromantic, they're okay with sex with any gender. If they're aromantic, they're not okay with sex with anyone, even if they're woohoo-favorable. Selecting "aromantic romance-favorable" does the same thing in reverse. If they're sexually attracted to women, they're okay with romance with women. If they're sexually attracted to men, they're okay with romance with men. If they're bisexual or pansexual, they're okay with romance with any gender. If they're asexual, they're not okay with romance with anyone, even if they're romance-favorable. I think this is where the problem stems from.

BloomPupz

It's still an issue without other mods. "[Sim 1] is not interested in romance with [Sim 2] due to being aromantic" and "[Sim 1] is not interested in WooHoo with [Sim 2] due to non-compatible sexual orientations" both continue to show up despite my sim being romance-favorable and woohoo-favorable. They won't stop rejecting advances from their wife.

BloomPupz

What do you mean?

Lumpinou

I didnt get any message from this mod.

kawaii_kitsune077

When I say WW I mean wicked whims not wonderful whims. But trying with no other mods would still be instructive to see if there are conflicts. And also telling me exactly what interactions are used and exactly what pop up happens. Separately for Woohoo and for romance stuff. Thanks.

Lumpinou

I guess it might be Wonderful Whims then, but that's odd, because I never had this issue with WW prior to downloading this LGBTQIA+ mod. I'll try without WW.

BloomPupz

Hi, are you talking about WW stuff or game stuff? WW has its own refusal systems. This seems to confuse a lot of people, so, I need to know that to know the answer :) But basically WW sex requires compatibility in romance and in sex and that's all on WW's side not mine. For aro in my mod and for the game, I actually re checked it at patch day, it should accept fine almost all the time if they're favorable, regardless of what type of relationship is established

Lumpinou

I ended up having to set my sim as pansexual and panromantic because I couldn't get around the rejection without changing universal settings. I want orientations to impact gameplay, but I'm disappointed with how little selecting "favorable" actually does. When my sim is set as a romance/sex-favorable aroace, they reject their wife because "this sim does not meet their attraction requirements" (paraphrased), despite the "favorable" setting. It sucks, because this sim is supposed to represent me (I'm aroace and in a romantic relationship irl). It sounds like my sims will have to divorce and become queerplatonic partners in order to interact romantically, which makes the "favorable" setting pointless. My sim should have romantic and sexual freedom by default with the "favorable" setting. It doesn't make sense for them to reject sims on the basis of a lack of attraction, when attraction isn't meant to dictate their favorability in the first place.

BloomPupz

Hi, Rejection should be a 10% when asked in that case. Once refused, while the refusal moodlet is active rejection is systematic, so of course one must wait till the rejection moodlet is gone. At any point barring that case, they can also offer it themselves which does not come with any refusal etc. Refusal in this mod always shows a notification explaining why. If no notice, the refusal is not from this mod. So that's an important thing to check :) Aro in this mod accepts romance only in qpr situations atm so that is another thing to keep in mind. That's sth I'll probably change onwards. As for grey out feel free to turn if off in settings. Albeit more developed than the game's own grey out system, it can still struggle with cases like this one. If refusal is constantly systematic, I'd try with no other mods in and report back

Lumpinou

I made my sim aromantic, asexual, romance-favorable, and sex-favorable. Yet, despite being romance/sex-favorable, many romance/woohoo options are greyed out, and romantic/woohoo actions attempted by others are always rejected by them. What's the point of the -favorable options if they're going to behave as if they're -averse?

BloomPupz

That second option is definitely it. I'm remodeling all the lots in the worlds I have and taking pictures of them but the bar I made I wanted to get a picture of it at night so I was on triple speed with my sim going back and forth within the lot boundaries. Thank you!

The Cautious Simmer

Hi, my guess is other sims from the played household are joining the outing and causing it to appear, and / or your played sim is hovering on the lot boundaries and basically considered to be leaving / coming back / etc, re trigerring it. Any of that sound possible? 🤔

Lumpinou

I have a question. For some reason when I apply the LGBTQIA+ Hangout lot trait to a bar my notification wall gets spammed with the special nights schedule every now and then and the same thing happens when the special night is going on. It's not that big of a problem and I'm not too bothered by it but I thought I should let you know.

The Cautious Simmer

And for some reason when I readded it, the only settings that didn't save were who he was out to and everyone's gender identity?? Literally everyone is questioning their identity now, which is a lot. Like I mean, get it I guess, but still. All their orientations saved, and I didn't change any settings.

Crea Blue

Update: Upon exiting CAS, I found that all my moodlets and sim's icon in the bottom corner had broken. This only fixed after removing the mod, loading the game, then closing and readding it. This was the only mod I removed to fix the problem.

Crea Blue

I don't suppose there's a reason top surgery made my sim shorter and shrunk his chin? It's easily fixable in CAS but still, extremely weird

Crea Blue

Thank you!!

Ayz

I think I did it - they now have both the "male" and "trans" trait (both from your mod). Hopefully I did it right!

Ayz

Hi, You would go to 'make quick assignments' then 'gender identity only' and assign the one that fits best :)

Lumpinou

Hi, my sim just discovered they were trans (so exiting, the first time its happened for me). BUT - they were afab, and now when it says they are trans it's keeping them as a female instead of changing to male. Is there some way to change that without changing the trans trait?

Ayz

Hi, usually that's due to cas assigns on played Sims and not to the auto assign system. The mod tries to adjust itself to reflect cas when not the other way around. In those cases, changing it manually is pretty much it! Hope this helps

Lumpinou

Hi I really love this mod! I'm struggling to get the 'match romantic and sexual orientations' setting to work, seems to be particularly common in married Sims, like a sim thats married to a woman might be listed as bisexual but romantically only attracted to women. Is there any other settings I might have changed to make this happen?

Ruby Tebbs

Hi, I'll have to see what I set up for npc's as I don't remember right now to be honest! In case I forgot to have a way for them to reveal things, I'll solve that up :)

Lumpinou

Hello! I am wondering if it is possible for NPCs to come out on their own without having to play them? My sims NPC girlfriend won't tell them her identity and orientation even though they're max relationship, so I think she might be in the closet.

Sage

Hi, check the following installation list : 0. Is your **game up to date**? *My mods work properly only on the Most Recent versions of the game.* 1. Are all .package and / or .TS4SCRIPT files for this mod **extracted from archive files?** *(no .zip or .rar in mods folder)* 2. Are all files **directly in the mods folder OR in one subfolder** in it, but no deeper? 3. Are **cc mods AND script mods both enabled** in game settings? (must check BOTH) - *in game, in options, under 'other settings'* 4. Do you have only **ONE version** of the mod installed at a time and is that version compatible with your game version?

Lumpinou

hi, ive downloaded the mod but none of the pie options come up when i click my sim.. is there something i have to do in order to see the options?

Eunisah Burke

Hi, for reasons I don't understand yet, the 'reveal orientation' and 'reveal identity' interactions are sometimes missing until the player goes and re-does the same assignments under 'orientation and identity' then 'make quick assignments'. Can you try that and let me know if it gets it unstuck?

Lumpinou

hi, i love this mod and i've had so much fun using it though out my saves however, i've run into a bit of a problem. my teenage sim can't come out to their parents. this is most likey an error on my end but i tried to troubleshoot to issue but nothing has worked so far, so i was hoping you could help.

copaceticc

It has always worked fine for me and many others BUT there are some users who have the same issue with it as you do. It has to do with your game not liking the sim generation process for whatever reason (a process that happens if no match exists in the world and the mod must create one). So, I would advise using this interaction on'y once you know for sure that there are some Sims in the world that would potentially match your sim. So for example if you have npc auto assign on for various things, and have been on several public lots etc, chances are a match should exist somewhere. Once again I have no idea why some users have this issue, sorry!

Lumpinou

Hello! I've noticed that the "Go On 'Meet&Mingle' Date with Matched Sim" Doesn't work and my sim will be frozen in place unless I reset them, is the incompatibility with the MC woohoo or is it something else?

Matthew

What lot type is it? Those that show up and leave instantly are probably not lgbtqia and therefore leave

Lumpinou

Thanks again for your mods. Hope all is well. Just checking in because for some reason I've noticed when I set my lot trait to LGBTQIA+ hangout people show up to the area but never come inside or they show up and just leave. Any suggestions?

Evelyn

Hello again! I gotta share, the mod did it again, but this time, sadly, from the other direction. I allow potential negative responses and last night when they aged up my new heirs twin got the "phobic" trait. This is a sim with a non binary parent who uses the parental title "Nobi", they/them pronouns, and while mostly presents in dress congruent with their birth gender does wear accessories traditionally associated with the opposite sex. Now my brain is spinning on how to handle the situation in a realistic manner. I would like to save the parent/child relationship, but I have to be honest that my teen will struggle. This mod is really helping me grow, making me think about angles I never explored. Thank you again 😊

Simslegacy5083

Age and assignments of the sim you tried it with? Is your game up to date? On another side of things : what are your computer specs in terms of processor and ram? This is demanding for the game when no match exists on the sim world for your sim, and if you Mr computer is weak, that could potentially lead to your result. So, make sure a match would exist, by having auto assigns for npc's on for a while for example. But please do let me know the answers to the questions above :)

Lumpinou

I've just downloaded the mod and I love the concept so much! I've found that using the meet n mingle app causes the game to crash. Is this a known issue? Edited to add: I disabled 'no strings' in MC Woohoo and I was able to use it once, but on requesting a new match I got the force close again.

Cai Foster

There very much are. Is your sim in an apartment or a dorm? Or not at home at all?

Lumpinou

why there are no options for medical transition options (like top and bottom surgeries)?

אור מטלון

I assume your sim has full orientation assignments? Let me know all of it so I can be sure. Those other sims he's flirting with, do they have any assignments (identity is what I need to know here mostly), and what do you have for the first two settings in the 'orientation' section of settings?

Lumpinou

Hi hope you feeling better, my played sim is straight but he keeps trying to flirt with male sims that are also straight. Have I got something wrong in settings as my sims traits say attracted to females only..

Cathy T

Weird 🤔 Is your game up to date? Did you make sure the script file is no deeper than one subfolder in, and that script mods are still activated? Did you make sure your settings file for this mod is fine? (nothing in double, no weird spaces, etc) (if you don't know how to do that, you can send it to me or simply delete it)

Lumpinou

Bonjour, voici les choses à vérifier 1. Tous les fichiers .package et/ou .ts4script de ce mod sont-ils extraits des fichiers d'archive ? (pas de .zip ou .rar dans le dossier mods) 2. Tous les fichiers sont-ils directement dans le dossier mods OU dans un sous-dossier, mais pas plus profond ? 3. Les mods cc ET les mods script sont-ils tous les deux activés dans les paramètres du jeu ? (doit cocher LES DEUX) 4. Avez-vous une seule version du mod installée à la fois et cette version est-elle compatible avec votre version de jeu ?

Lumpinou

Bonjour, votre mod est juste incroyable mais pour une raison que j'ignore il ne s'active plus sur mon jeu même si je supprime tous mes mods et que je re crée une partie complètement. tous les autres de vous fonctionnent mais pas celui ci, est ce qu'il y a quelque chose à faire que je fais mal ?

camille

Hey, I don't know if anyone else is having this problem, but I'm not getting a notification when my sims ask other sims what their opinion is, what orientation is, or even what their pronouns are. I've re-downloaded the mod, I even took all my mods out except for this one. I also look at all my settings and can't figure out what is wrong. Please help.

LydiaJane Smith

Hi, sorry to bother you. I have translated it in my patreon and also shared to Taiwan SIMS game community. My primary translation is Traditional Chinese. Attach the patreon translation link to you, only the Chinese translation file will be released. Thank you for your hard work in making high quality mods. Link : https://www.patreon.com/posts/70536025 You can deal with it when you come back from rest. I wish you a nice holiday. :)

MeowCats

Where did you click? I've replaced the link with the correct one in most places, let me know where I forgot https://monochaos.blog/blog/2022/06/28/ftm-starter-kit-b00b-be-gone-by-monochaos

Lumpinou

Hi- The link to the Monochaos cc does not lead anywhere. It looks like they have quit simming according to a post on their blog and won't maintain their cc.

Sam D.

So far there's been lots of little emergencies like this, but now I hope it's all done and I can rest 😭

Lumpinou

Hope you have had (are having?) a restful break! Thanks for the update, appreciate how you are always so on top of things and prompt to fix issues!

Simslegacy5083

Dating app is in 'relationship decisions' on your sim

Lumpinou

Absolutely love this mod, I might be missing something obvious but where do I find the Meet and Mingle app?

Ruby Tebbs

Yes of course. Just have him do the top surgery then. It's separate

Lumpinou

Is there a way to allow your male sim to have top surgery and keep his natural genitalia area? I don't want to rush his transition in my storyline.

Evelyn

Is your game up to date?

Lumpinou

I am unable to Ponder Gender ID and Orientation. My Sims just stand there. I'm not sure what's wrong since I haven't changed any of the settings since I set it up the first time. Sending Well Wishes !!

Rabbit Goddess

It's the settings, not Sim's assignments. Because this mod has been undergoing heavy core changes between each update, the settings keep changing in ways that make the settings file of previous versions obsolete. That is why it must be deleted. A new one will generate with default settings. Normally, this would not be necessary as often or at all, but like I said, this mod has been undergoing constant heavy transformation. Assignments are untouched by that process of resetting settings.

Lumpinou

I'm not clear what the settings file is relevant to- individual assigns, global settings, both. It seems with each update we have to delete the settings file and I'm not clear what I have to redo. Thank you for this update. Hope your hands are getting better!

Sam D.

What's the Sim's assignments? 🤔

Lumpinou

Hi! love this mod so much it adds so much to gameplay and is so fun to play with! quick question though I have a sim that is queer and has the added trait of "in the closet" but I can't seem to find how to they can come out am I missing something? I have the option for the sim to tell others about there orientation and identity but it doesn't change the in the closet trait or give any moodlets or pop ups. Im a bit confused haha.

helena posnick

If a sim has 'ace' assigned, they already know they are ace, as far as the system is concerned. The discoveries are for Sims who have something that is not what would be discovered, ie Sims who think they like only one gender might find out they like more, Sims who think they're allo because they're not really aware of what is what might find they're not, etc.

Lumpinou

It's due to a pack test, it is ignorable and will happen when shift clicking Sims, if you re download it won't happen as I fixed it two days ago. I am working on v2 which will come out soon hopefully so, it's up to you!

Lumpinou

Im getting errors from this mod today. Do I need to remove it from the mod folder or is it ignorable? Heres the error (wont attach the entire thing but heres the important bits). Possible Cause (Confidence: 100%) \Lumpinou_LGBTQIA_Mod_v1.5_July26\Lumpinou_LGBTQIA_Mod_v1.5.package Reason Exception occurred while attempting to populate a repeated field: (AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'influence_by_active_mood')

Kristin Cottrill

Hey! How do I forcerun the aro/ace discovery system on a sim who I quick-assigned to be ace? I just want to be sure it works.

Andauril

For example, I added the LGBTQIA trait to a bar lot. It's a Tuesday night in game. There are only four sims present aside from my sim and the bartender. I've assigned Gay and Lesbian traits to numerous sims, so I'd like them to show up at a lot designed for them, not just on certain nights.

Jonathan

As I mentioned in an another post, I'm new to the mod. So far, I love everything and I thank you for sharing your talent. I wondered if it would be possible to add some hot spot lot traits for specific orientations; Gay men, Lesbians, Transgender, etc. It would be so great if it were easier to find like sims. I admit I don't fully understand the "special nights" as described for the current lot trait but I would prefer if I could designate certain lots for certain orientations / identities. Thanks again for this brilliant mod! Hugs!

Jonathan

Settings can be changed in game. But, for some updates, removing the existing setting file (or, if you prefer, manually editing it) is required. If you are updating from a version older than v1. 3 to v1. 3+, either delete your globalsettings file from this mod or manually edit the file, instructions are on my website. It is recommended to just delete the file and re do settings in game if you aren't tech savvy. For more info you can check out the mod description page

Lumpinou

Maybe I'm just dumb, but how do I fix the settings is it in game?

Mykaela Baker

Thanks for the nice words! I'm glad the mod is playing out well in your sim stories and that you like the additions it's gotten since its very first version :) y'all make this possible

Lumpinou

Hi, just wanted to say as someone who got this mod during early access, I really am incredibly happy to have supported your mod making because this mod has made me happy in ways i would have never expected from a game. I've been playing a legacy challenge recently, but still rotationally checking in on my spares' families and my twins aged to teens just now and turns out one is a trans man [they/them] (not to mention t4t! a lovely addition) and the other a trans woman [she/her] and it was such a pleasant surprise as a trans man myself seeing their new names and having them come out to their extended family; i really was on the verge of tears tbh. So thank you so much for this mod! I'll gladly continue to support your content <3

vince

The auto assign systems decides to auto assign some transition steps to some Sims who are auto assigned trans. Not all of them will have had any change, some will have had some changes, some will have had all changes. This is to represent all sorts of realities. It is up to you to continue an auto assigned Sim's transition in gameplay if you wish, or decide that they are where they want to be already. Sounds like the sim in the example above is born assigned male and went and had top surgery. Those who've had top surgery will have had chest changes. Those who've changed name will have a name fitting their non-birth gender. Same with pronouns, impregnatability, pee standing or sitting, etc etc. You can see in the trait panel or in 'view orientation and identiti' if they've had any surgeries, done hormones, or not. As for outfit preference I used to auto switch it systematically but decided to integrate it to the auto assign systems differently, so that some trans Sims can be 100% pre transition / 100% closeted, etc. At the moment the outfit pref does not quite well sync up with the other changes however, but that will be different in the next release as it's stuff I've already changed. Sims who are manually assigned 'trans' don't get any auto assign of transition steps because if you are doing manual assigns, it is expected that you intend to have control about this specific sim, and play them and play their transition in gameplay if that is what is wanted. There is however a shift+click menu and various cheats under the cheat / 'make assignments for' side of the mod to fix up a sim to whatever may be needed.

Lumpinou

So I have been playing with this and noticed two sims so far that are listed as transgender. They have masculine body, masculine clothing type, pee standing up and can get women pregnant. But they have breasts. So im not sure if its that they should be using a female clothing type or if they shouldn't be able to get people pregnant. Is it possible for the mod to do checks like that when it gives someone the transgender trait? But over all I love this mod. And im so excited to see where it can go after after they add the updates to the game. Awesome mods

Heather Dasher

Hi, this has been asked a few times, I gave some answers to this person asking it here for example https://modthesims.info/showthread.php?p=5841385#post5841385

Lumpinou

I love this mod! Are you planning on expanding the gender identities/transitioning options for kid sims in the future? Trans kids exist and it would be amazing to be able to tell that kind of story. (I know that kid sims wouldn't be able to have all the gender affirming/transitioning options, but it would be great if a kid sim could have access to the "decide on new name" and "decide on new pronouns" options + parental reactions to their kid expressing gender confusion/being trans.)

Andauril

Would love to see what you will do for the upcoming sexuality and gender features of the upcoming patch. For my own part, I plan to continue using your mod! Thanks so much for this!

SimBeowulf

The choice of 'out' will come up when assigning identity / orientation. So you are left with just adding 'queer'. And no not really. I've been thinking of making yjr window repeat itself though, like the settings one.

Lumpinou

Hey, is it possible to let us choose all the extra traits we want in one go rather than one at a time? I do not enjoy having to click through the menues two times to make my sim out and queer.

Anna

*LittleMissSam SimDa Dating app :) I love that mod as well

IrieGamerGyal Banton

A dating app would be great! I used to use lilsimsie’s simDa dating app but it doesn’t respect gender preferences so oftentimes my sim would end up on a date with someone who wasn’t interested in him lol.

ZR

Hi, Yes there will be lot traits, but first, so that the lot traits are more interesting, I would prefer to flesh out more socials between Sims who are various 'degrees' of being out or not, Sims who have various experiences to share, etc etc so that it all makes more sense. I would also like to have some sort of dating app thing to find Sims specifically matched :) Anyways, this mod is still being developed in every direction so, it just takes time and work haha. Right now it's the turn of the unexpected crushes to get more developped. One thing at a time we'll get there. But who knows maybe I'll throw some hyper simple lot traits to begin with and expand later.

Lumpinou

Hi Lumpinou, First off, I wanted to thank you for such a wonderful mod. I know the sims community is filled with LGBTQIA+ simmers and it's wonderful to be able to reflect that more accurately in our own games. I wanted to ask if you had ever thought about creating a "gay hotspot" lot trait or even just a general "LGBTQIA+ hotspot" lot trait that I could apply to a lot that would prompt primarily LGBTQIA sims to spawn. I've been trying to create a world that generally reflects real life, so my LGBTQIA sims are generally about 10% of my total townie population. This sometimes makes it difficult for my sims to find a partner or even just a simple hookup without just wildly asking everyone their orientation. I'd love if, just like real life, I could make my own gay bars or nightclubs where sims could meet likeminded folk. There was another LGBT mod I think that was missing a lot of your features, but this is one thing they did well and that I think would be a good addition. Thanks again, Zach

ZR

Do you have an old version left over? That's probably your problem. The setting is very visible on the first page of the settings menu

Lumpinou

quick question, I'm trying to turn on negative reactions but I cant find the setting in game or in the settings file how do I turn the setting on?

VioletGames

Do any of the religions from Rambunctious Religions impact reactions if neutral/negative reactions are turned on?

Laura Zographos

So glad you like it! In technical terms, it definitely is the product of all the learning I've been doing making mods for the past two years. It's so exciting to me to have reached a skill level in modding this game where doors have opened to make works such as this one possible.

Lumpinou

I just have to say, I've loved your mods for a while, and this one is absolutely one of my favorites, if not my absolute favorite! I've been hoping for a mod like this for a long time, and it does everything that I've always hoped for. Thank you so much for this amazing mod!

cyazurai

It should have been doing that since v1. But if your sims had no assignments at all, the situation might have been different. There were fixes early on about things misbehaving when Sims had no assigns. So maybe that's what you needed. Let me know. You can always re do assignments if they're wrong. For me I've never had an issue of them being wrong

Lumpinou

Quick question. I tried this mod when it first came out but removed it from my game because it had my already married sims or sims already in relationships refusing romantic interactions with each other due to incompatibility. It says this version takes already married or partnered sims relationships into consideration when auto applying. Was this not in the previous version or did I do something wrong last time? I have downloaded the new version and am about to put it into my mod folder.

Kristin Cottrill

Thank you so much for this! Especially the inclusion of asexuality 💜

Kelley Frank

Hi Jorge! If you still need help with this, click on a Sim's PC in your game, click on MCCC, then MC Woohoo, then Woohoo Activities and then No Strings Woohoo. You can disable the setting in there. :-)

ChelleBelle716

Yeah for this update, delete every previous file and version of this mod including the settings file :)

Lumpinou

Hi I have a question, I was trying to update the LGBTQIA mod & I noticed I had other files such as: Global settings and then gender identities, do I delete those?

ImPerfecctiion

Thanks that’s what I though I’ll keep looking

Jorge Mejia

Idk exactly, but Mc Woohoo settings are all on sim computers so, check there

Lumpinou

Hi and thank you for this mod … I do have a question regarding setting up and compatibility of the MC no strings woohoo I can’t seem to figure out where the setting is to turn off

Jorge Mejia

My Open Love Life mod is made for that

Lumpinou

Curious! Does this mod allow for poly relationships?! : O

Azai Drek

You are correct! It was incompatible at first release (June 11) but the next day, that had already been solved :)

Lumpinou

Thank you for the update! Was this mod originally incompatible with "Better Romance" and is now compatible? (Or am I mistaking this mod for a different mod...)

epimythia


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