[Mod] Charm & Chemistry: Attraction System (RPO, Mod 17) - Sims 4

Hi, this is presumed to be an interaction between m17 and lgbtqia, it is not understood, and the only solution at present is to remove either mod

Lumpinou

Hi, Lumpinou! First off, thank you SO much for your mods; they are the only reason I still play the game! My game is telling me that Lumpinou_RPO_Collection_M17_Charm&Chemistry_Attraction_v2.984.package The mod tries to run a “loot action” using ParticipantType.PickedSim, which the Sims 4 does not support in this specific context (DoubleSimResolver). This causes a game-breaking tuning error.

Katie Warren

Hi, Check the index, 2.982 is listed under 'early access' Goes public between today / tomorrow so then it will be the normal post If you get an error message, you can send it on discord for me to check it

Lumpinou

hi, i subscribed just to be able to comment. i got an error message yesterday for M17 charm & chemistry but it seems v2.982 is not available. when will it be available? i cant find it anywhere even for members. thank you! love your mods, ive been using them from day 1

cass !!

Hi, It's compatible. I however don't recommend having two attraction systems active at the same time. If you use Lovestruck's I recommend to leave this file out

Lumpinou

Is this compatible with lovestruck? does it overwrite the attraction system or sit beside it like social compatibility?

Sophie

No it should not matter. The menu is under 'rpo' then 'romance and friendship'

Lumpinou

Hii! Firstly, thank you for adding so much life to this game. Truly amazing! I apologize if this question is getting reduntant but I am struggling to get the chemistry system to work for pre-played sims. I did remove the meet & mingle module since I use another dating system. Would that affect my ablity to choose my sims turn ons/offs? because I cant find it anywhere :( Thanks for any guidance.

LightsMeAction

not lump, but i have both and have never had any issues :)

bean

Hey so I have MC woohoo installed will that mess around with ant of these mods?

Hi!! Wanna start by saying this is the best Mod EVER!! This Chem System is so great and a huge adition to the mod. I have just one small consideration. When I send one Sim to a Meeting& Mingle date it doesn't trigger the Chem System (they are both singles), so they end up with no chemstry level. Is that how it was supposed to be?

euelianamaia

Yeah I'll write it up when I catch a chance!

Lumpinou

I know there's so many things taken into account for the personality turn ons but is there any chance we could sometime see a general description of what each personality is influenced by?? I can't seem to get the sims i want to have really good chemistry only mildly good. Some are obvious must other less so. Absolutely in love with this mod!!!

Jules

Can chemistry change over time?

Jamie Loch

Hi, by default, only single Sims participate in the system. You can change that in settings if you want

Lumpinou

One more quick question- is there a reason why chemistry isn't triggering between certain sims? I have the same problem as above where it doesn't trigger, so I "ask about chemistry between" and they just say "I really haven't thought about that to be honest."

Jamie Loch

No worries! And thanks :)

Lumpinou

Wow, okay, I'm an idiot. Thank you so much, you probably get so many questions like this a day. Thank you so much for this mod. I very likely would never play sims 4 without your mods. They are gamechangers. <3

Jamie Loch

You can see it on this screenshot https://i0.wp.com/lumpinoumods.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/The-Sims%E2%84%A2-4-1_17_2023-4_50_33-PM-copiehh.png?w=824&ssl=1

Lumpinou

Thank you :) How do you remove them?

Jamie Loch

If you randomized them, the sim probably already has the maximum allowed. You would have to remove some to then be able to add some other ones

Lumpinou

Hello, I cannot seem to figure out how to pick your turn ons and turn offs. I randomized it and they're greyed out and I cannot change them at all when I go into "specify turn ons" and "offs" respectively.

Jamie Loch

Cant wait to try this out

Keke Colón

No you are not wrong at all. In fact nearly all mods by everyone will break. If it has a trait in it, it will break. If it has an interaction in it, it will break. And it might even be worse than that. Do you expect to the very worst in terms of mod breakage

Lumpinou

I'm waiting to put this in my game since the new patch/pack next month will surely break it and it will be just one more of many, many mods to update. I am thinking of you having to face a big patch with a lot of updating next month and hoping you can pace yourself and take care of yourself- or am I wrong in anticipating a lot of updates w/ the patch/pack ?

Sam D.

I think I may be installing it wrong, or the mod is conflicting with something else because I only see a blank bubble where I think it's supposed to be. :c

Matthew

Cool! Thanks.

Jes2G

thanks!

Ayz

Hi, it's totally up to you which mod you use and which you don't. You can delete mine, delete theirs, keep both, it's just completely up to you

Lumpinou

Hi, should I delete the chemistry system mod by thepancake? It seems like they do the same thing essentially.

Ayz

Yes, but also I didn't make it do that because there's indeed not the same. Esp. with education and wealth. I could make an exception for high paying job and wealth -

Lumpinou

Is it possible to make sure the turn ons and turn offs don't conflict? For example, I have a sim that is turned on by higher education and wealth but is turned off by high paying job. True, they aren't exactly the same, but I can't understand why someone who wants someone educated and wealthy wouldn't expect them to have a high paying job lol. Do you think there's a way to add some sort of check to make sure these traits make sense together?

Jes2G

When I ask opinion of chemistry is get a pop up that says "I haven't really thought about that stuff, to be honest."

BriBri

The chemistry isn't triggering for me for some reason. I only have MCCC and adeepindigo's education mod

BriBri

Got it, thank you. And I did answer one of my own questions from earlier when I re-read the mod info above - I do see that there can be negative chemistry.

ChelleBelle716

You can use the relbit cheats under 'actions' - just enable the first setting of the mod first!

Lumpinou

Hi! Another question. Is there already (and I just can't find it), or will there be, a way to cheat chemistry between Sims? I have a household where I play a story line where a female sim is secretly enamored with her male roommate but he does not feel the same way. I just had her "Get to Know" him and she only got "Rather Charming" chemistry with him. I'd like to be able to cheat it up higher so it can play into that household's particular story line. He did get "Neutral" for her, which is perfect, but it would be good to be able to have cheated that down if it triggered higher. Thank you!

ChelleBelle716

Thanks for the quick response! I looked at the profile of the brand new Sim that she introduced herself to and he showed "Neutral Chemistry" with her. (Apparently he wasn't as enamored with her and she was with him - LOL.) And then I looked at the profile of my Sim's husband and no chemistry is listed between them at all. Just says "Spouse" and "Soul Mates" and lists their first impressions. The first impression she has of him is negative (Pretentious) so maybe that's why it doesn't list chemistry? Will it list negative chemistry or does it just list neutral and positive? So then I just had her husband ask her about her chemistry with him and she said "I haven't really thought about that stuff, to he honest." I had her ask her husband and he had the same response. Still no chemistry triggered in either of their profiles. These two might be in trouble. LOL I confirmed that "Attention Status" is turned on for both of them, and their sexual orientations are compatible so there should no issue coming from that department.

ChelleBelle716

Hi, and thank you for the nice words! That's a good thing to bring up. Chemistry can only trigger once via get to know, so, it will throw it once and then done, it only checks whether or not it has applied it before, it doesn't really care about trait knowledge etc. And for first impressions integration, if no chemistry can apply OR if the results are neutral, a first impression will apply indeed. So here, either of those things must have happened with your sim. You can check if they got neutral in their View of the husband's sim profile. Now for the sake of logic it could be better to prevent the first impressions substitute for Sims who already know each other long... I'll consider! For pré existing Sims if you want them to babe chemistry, you can make each other ask about 'opinion of chemistry with ___-' and that will trigger it. Even if there was a chemistry before, that will trigger it again because, if you ask someone 'what do you think of me?' it can be different now from ten years ago ehehe. So I did it that way-. Anyways, hope this helps!

Lumpinou

Hi! First of all, I love all the changes you've made to the RPO mod. Thank you so much! And, OMG, the chemistry module is so much fun! I've only just started playing around with it. So fun to watch your Sim turn into a flirty puddle when they meet a truly charming sim. LOL I do have a question about the Chemistry module. I have the "First Impressions" mod also installed, so from my mod files I removed the "Intro Type Matters" optional add-on and changed my setting so that I could have the chemistry trigger on the "Get to Know" interaction. I always cheat my Sims the "Observant" trait so that they learn everything all at once. I just tested my married female Sim and had her introduce herself to a brand new male sim, so she learned all 3 of his traits immediately. Then I had her immediately do the "Get to Know" interaction and it triggered the chemistry for her. She REALLY likes this Sim. LOL So all worked perfectly there. I then tested it on her husband. She obviously already knew all 3 of her husband's traits so then I had her do the "Get to Know' interaction with him. But in that instance, instead of any kind of chemistry, it generated a First Impression. Apparently she finds him pretentious. LOL So I guess my question is whether or not the Chemistry trigger is or will be "retroactive" - will chemistry trigger if your Sim already knows all 3 traits from previous encounters, and you subsequently do the "Get to Know" interaction sometime after the initial introduction? Or does First Impressions come in at that point instead like I saw with my 2 married sims? I hope that makes sense. Thanks so much!

ChelleBelle716

There's no talk about marriage interaction in this mod so, doesn't sound like it's its fault :)

Lumpinou

I love this! I ran into an issue with this module though, my engaged sims keep getting into a nonstop 'talk about marriage' interaction loop with it in. I'll see if I can pull out other mods and do some more testing on it tomorrow, but I wanted to let you know!

Surely-Sims

I love this! It's giving Sims 2 and i'm here for it. If you ever made a zodiac/astrology mod you would crush it - so hard to find good ones

Melanie

Thanks! Yes WW or Wonderful Whims. And yes, if you want to try my system for physical stuff too, you can switch off Turbo's attraction system and that'll do it, while keeping his mods in of course, and that'll let them appear. But personally I'd say if you have WW or wonderful whims, I'd recommend to use Turbo's system for physical attraction because it is much more developed! But it's totally all up to you and you can combine Turbo's mods with mine in any way you want all through settings for each mod

Lumpinou

Another awesome update! I want to try this out later today. When you talk about the physical attractiveness mods by Turbodriver, do you mean WW? And if so, will we be able to use the RPO physical turn-ons instead of WW's if we switch the WW system off?

Carla