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[RPO - 'Devlog'] Upcoming New System + the Plans for Expansions over Nov. - Dec.

Hello everyone and thanks for being here! <3

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RECENT COSMETIC AND FUNCTIONAL CHANGES

First of all, and this is something some of you probably have noticed already, the old choice pop up system is now gone. I have replaced it with the same approach I have been using since the pre werewolf pack BG update came out - as said approach came with it.

So now, all my pop ups are of the same style, as shown below:


Another thing some of you probably already have noticed is that the setting system got some cosmetic changes, and improvements I even would say.

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NEW: ADDITIONAL CHANGE TO WW COMPATIBILITY

Now, on the matter of compatibility with wicked whims, I posted recently about some compatibility improvements.

I am happy to announce that there is one more such improvement now.

After a chat with Turbo, it turns out the reason why jealousy for WW stuff wasn't recognizing cases from my mods that preclude jealousy was nothing serious at all.

It was very simple to work around and that means that now, every context that warrants NO jealousy in Open Love Life and RPO m7 jealousy & fidelity will be in effect for WW interactions too.

-> Open Love Life has already been updated for this today.

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UPCOMING very soon:

(NEW SETTING) TO DELAY AUTO DISCOVERY OF PREGNANCY TILL END OF 1ST TRIMESTER

All right, now onto the completely new things.

This is a feature that came from several requests of last week on my discord.

These from users who felt that the automatic discovery of pregnancy when not taking a test happens too fast in game.

Their request then made me think that it can be a bit silly that ALL Sims note they're pregnancy before they're even showing, and that there was something behind the complaint of these users!

Therefore:


It is a new setting and system that enables you, if you so wish, to push back the automatic discovery of pregnancy that normally happens after a day of 'not showing' stage, to happen instead at the switch between first and second trimester.

So, a Sim will be starting to show because they are in their first trimester, but if they haven't taken a test, they still won't be sure that they're pregnant, unless they take a test or wait all the way to the second trimester.
So they won't have a trimester moodlet or pregnancy notifications until one of these things happens.

This give us fun possibilities such as this new interaction on mirrors, "Observe Self" (excuse missing cap in the screenshot!), for Sims who are in their 1st trimester and showing but don't realize it's a pregnancy yet.

The Sim has a chance to get doubts or to not notice anything much.

There's a few other tidbits like this interaction to make this more alive for y'all.

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Remember, this all is a Setting, so, you don't have to play with this system!!

Alright, alright.

While on paper this sounds quite simple to put together, in reality it wasn't because of the following.

The main Big Deal was integrating this with my own stuff from other mods of the RPO collection. Some of it is time sensitive and I had to come up with workarounds.

The other Big Deal is integrating with other mods by other people. Turns out quite a bit hinges on the moment of discovery of pregnancy!

So, if you use mods from other people that add pregnancy related interactions for Sims who are aware they're pregnant, for example, I need to integrate with them so that those do not show up for Sims who are in their first trimester and showing etc but still not aware of it.
This is something I can do unilaterally, I just need consent and references from the other modders. So let me know which mods you use that would need integration : D

I am currently working on this "Compatibility with other modders" aspect and once that is done, will be ready to release this update.

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Please note that this is NOT THE SAME THING as the cryptic pregnancy feature.
[Cryptic pregnancy is a rare occurrence in which a person is pregnant but has no pregnant belly, might still be getting periods, and basically experiences little to no signs of pregnancy, sometimes all the way into the moment of labor!  
In game, if you have the cryptic pregnancy setting ON, 5% of pregnancies are cryptic.]

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UPCOMING soon: A little QUALITY OF LIFE thing

In addition to that, there is another new feature upcoming in next update, which is something very small but that can still help with quality of life.

Between all the RPO mods, there are a lot of individual characteristics a Sim can have, and a lot of menus in which each type of characteristic (turn ons, fertility, preferences about family, woohoo roles, etc) gets changed.

This new feature makes it easier to navigate by offering a summary of all of your sim's RPO attributes in one place and quick links to change each thing.

As of now this is done as a pop up window, but it's looking pretty cramped, so I might rework it to something else, which is why I won't show it as it is now!

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AND AFTER THAT:
What other RPO mod expansions are planned to be coming in the following weeks:

Remember, 'Additions / expansions to existing RPO mods' is what won the poll, so.
A LOT is going to happen, probably there will be several releases.

I hope to go over every RPO mod and rework background stuff as needed in addition to adding new features.

Here is a non comprehensive list of the major plans:

- M1 Family preferences: possibility for preferences to change due to life experiences / events (setting)

- M2 expansion of protection failure system to let sims know exactly what failed. New ways of protecting from pregnancy.

- m3 WTDs: rework of the reactions into a pop up system, some potential additions 

- m4 paternity testing: better handling of and fixes for pregnant npc cases, a brand new additional paternity system for pre existing kids, and tests for blood relations of other types, etc. Global DNA testing system for all orts of family links.

- m5 teen pregnancy and reactions: general expansions and new systems for impregnators

- M6 temporary separations:  ? (don't remember rn what I'd said before)

- m7 jealousy and fidelity: new features regarding jealousy, new system for drama with the 'affair' sim in the handling of affairs 

- m8 insemination / surrogacy: egg and sperm donation

- m9 adoption: ? (don't remember rn what I'd said before)

- m10 permanent separation: highly requested step family stuff of all sorts

- m11: additions and reworks

- m12: additions for pregnancy recovery

- m13 miscarriages and pregnancy loss: stillbirth (setting!)

- m14: already made additions, maybe some more

- m15 romance and friendship: finishing the letter sending system 

- m16 meet and mingle dating app: further developments to the private message system 

- m18 expanded woohoo: more locations and more Sims for expanded Woohoo activities

- m19 Adult life: addition of new kinks (woohoo styles)

This is what I remember off the top of my head, there's more around in notes and convos with various ones of you so don't panic if you don't see something on the list! :)

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Thanks!
Till next time ~

Comments

Have you seen the foster family mod by LMS?

Sheila Lobert

Check installation Then make sure you have a context in game that would trigger the system :)

Lumpinou

What patch

Lumpinou

So, everything is good to go with the new patch?

MsShanelle

So happy to see all the updates! Id love to see stepfamily interactions; have you considered adding a foster care system at some point in the future?

Heaven

Hello, I love your stuff I just I am having one issue. I have in stalled the paternity mod and it will not show up. Everything else shows up and works perfectly fine but the paternity thing will not work.

Alex wells

Adoption is still there. If it tells you to age up first then do so, some people have too many bugs with transferring babies

Lumpinou

Can you still put your newborn up for adoption?

Crazygirl11683

Merci pour tous ces Mods qui rendent le jeu plus attrayant.

Brigitte Fortuné

I am LOVING what you're doing with this mod! Thank you for hard work!

Neen

Would it be possible when she doesn't know who the father is to have the option to tell a possible father the baby is his without knowing if she is lying or not?

Granny

Another thought: could we have sims discuss family planning? Not just bc/condoms but sterilization also? (Adoption already has to be a conversation per child which is perfect, tho if it could recognize MCCC adoption that would be so great.) Anyway you're the best, carry on

Nathalie

Hi yes panda is already integrated, as for kids their age doesn't matter so long as they're the latest kid at this moment, and the new systems to come that I mentioned in my post are to include alternate tests for the ones that aren't the latest if no test has been done before for them

Lumpinou

Hi, I've recently started using Pandasama's child birth mod. Will this be compatible? Also wondering if it would be possible for a parent to discover that an older child is not theirs biologically? Love your mods, really enhances gameplay.

Dee Pal

Thank you so much for all your hard work! Your mods are a must have in my game.

Tiara Hardy

Persea has a realistic life & pregnancy mod

Jackie

Yes Adeepindigo and I are regularly in touch for compatibility :)

Lumpinou

Hi! Would it be possible to make late pregnancy discovery compatible with Deepindigo's Healthcare redux mod? In their mod, pregnancy notifications appear almost immediately, preventing late discovery or cryptic pregnancy.

Little L

I am very excited! I cannot wait for - m4 paternity testing and jealousy and fidelity. I have my sims, a married couple with a daughter and the mother is having an affair. A so this updartes will be more interesting for my story! ehehehehhe

Inês Alexandra

I know you were making some improvements to your documentation and one suggestion I would make is to update a section that clarifies updates to compatibility esp. with WW and MCCC. There've been a few new ones and it would be good to have those all in one place. Trying to coordinate these 3 mods is a bit of a project for a user! Thanks for your amazing work!

Sam D.

I'm so excited for these coming changes! Do you think there's a way you could make the adoption system work so your sim can choose which child to adopt from existing Sims in the world? This is for my foster family gameplay, currently I just use MCCC to adopt the exact sim I want from the foster family, but I don't get any milestones or fulfill any have a child wants that way and it's so annoying. IDK if that's even in your bailiwick lol but thought I'd mention it. Very excited 🧡🧡🧡

Nathalie

Yes it would be compatible :) But if you already find it long enough you can also of course leave that rpo setting off altogether

Lumpinou

I'm loving this! Here are my two cents. I'm playing with longer pregnancies thanks to MCCC. Meaning the "discover pregnancy" in my game takes two or three days, then the first trimester starts and then another three days and so on. Not sure this is something that can be compatible, just my own suggestion, thank you so much!!

Morzat

If it's stuff before the test then there's no need for me to block any of that stuff, so, no compatibility problems there :)

Lumpinou

I kinda like the early pregnancy mod by PsylockeX that adds moodlets before the test. Thanks for all this amazing work

TheOne

Then I'm sure you noticed that line in my post: - m16 meet and mingle dating app: further developments to the private message system 😉😉

Lumpinou

I WISH MEET AND MINGLE HAD MORE NPC MESSAGES SPAWN WHEN YOURB PROFILE IS SET TO VISBLE, I NEVER GET ANY.

Brandmuffin89

Omg, so exciting!!! Lumpinou you continue to amaze me!! RPO is one of my must-have mods and I honestly didn't think it could get any better. But these features...just wow...I'm soooo excited!! You're the best!

Meka

Yeah Panda is already integrated :) Thanks!

Lumpinou

I use PandaSama's Childbirth Mod, not sure if that's been suggested already/if you already work(ed) with them! Also super excited for all the new things to come, I love your mods <3

tajmahaal

This is a great summary! The only thing I would mention is that Your FalseHope has a moodlet where the Sim begins to feel nauseated and wonders if it is morning sickness. Maybe this moodlet should stay, because it is one of the first signs of possible pregnancy and the Sim is worried about it. Or perhaps Lumpinou could create a similar moodlet.

horsetailhollow

No

Lumpinou

Yeah! but not sure it would be in these expansions or something later yet, could go either way :)

Lumpinou

I don't know if it's possible, but if you could work with YourFalseHope to Integrate her Cherished Pregnancy etc suite of mods, it would be amazing.

Shona Coverdale

I'm very excited for the upcoming features, especially the cheating ones since I have that situation brewing in one of my households. Is the Love Languages module still in the plans? I was looking forward to that one too.

Temesha Hostetler

Loving the new stuff so far! I did have a bug that didn't recognize one of the dads when using the surrogacy system- would it be possible in the future to work on some kind of way to adopt (aka add that person on as family that can't be Woohoo'd (might be that stepfamily stuff) pre-existing kids in a family? Just went with the science baby on the next one. The way that the woohoo style interactions get available and work better once sims are flirty is great- would love more 'how to' info pop ups (and info in the pop up like 'maybe X should try...') when a Sim rejects a proposition or even accepts so you can learn the system as you go

merchantfan

once again with fire future content updates. can't wait to play around when they're released!

hale

This all sounds lovely! I'm sure folks already mentioned Realistic Birth for compatibility, that's the 500 pound gorilla, but I'd also mention: No push to go to the doctor from Healthcare Redux by Adeepindigo No pregnancy cravings or ability to post about being pregnant from Plumlace's Pregnancy Cravings and Immersive Social Bunny mods respectively. No pregnancy glow or moodlets from Cherished Moments - Pregnancy by YourFalseHope No random pregnancy moodlets from MC Command Center I just finished posting a very long pregnancy series for my LP so this is top of mind 😄 ! That's all I can think of at the moment. Looking forward to it!

Simslegacy5083

Yeah no worries that's already done! She and I are regularly in touch for integration. Same with adeepindigo

Lumpinou

I don’t know for sure but I think maybe some of Pandasama’s Childbirth Mod interactions rely on discovery of pregnancy. That would be a great inclusion

Samantha Den Hertog

Are we supposed to have a separate file for WW compatibility?

Jennifer LaFaso

As usual, you completely blow me away! This is awesome!

Christina West

Your username killed me aha

Lumpinou

Omg exciting!!! 😆

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