Video Quality on Large Screens?
Added 2025-02-08 20:18:17 +0000 UTCJust curious... anyone here watch these videos on a big TV?
I'm trying some different settings for bitrate etc., hoping it looks better, but today's videos look ... different to me somehow. Not as sharp? Mushy?
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Does 65" count? I also have access to an 85" if needed
James Davis
2025-05-19 20:28:11 +0000 UTCOn a 65" Samsung.
William Elliott
2025-03-06 04:44:26 +0000 UTCi noticed a setting in that video that referenced "interlaced" something or other. no idea what it does or why it was on. my latest video, hopefully, fixed that problem. Thanks Steven!
This Old Tony
2025-03-01 16:44:44 +0000 UTCI don't know what any of those words mean, but my latest video has some changed settings. Hopefully it clears things up!
This Old Tony
2025-03-01 16:43:57 +0000 UTCYES! I ONLY watch YouTube videos on my 72" BIG TV. PS Great hands! LOL PS VERTICAL Videos REALLY piss me off....Thinking about adding auto rotation to the TV.....
Richard Cournoyer
2025-03-01 13:42:18 +0000 UTCLooked perfectly fine on a 77" OLED.
Bumble_Fudger
2025-02-20 02:28:09 +0000 UTCI must be the odd one out. Watching on a 1080p 50 inch TV and a Chromecast (ultra?). I didn't notice anything untoward, and I think I am the sort of person who normally would. But I was also eating dinner at the same time so π€·ββοΈ
Benny Mackney
2025-02-12 13:05:45 +0000 UTCI also had a few artifacts here and there on the laptop at 1080p native and YT's 1080p enhanced bitrate. Nothing too distracting - the Tormek's plastic switch covers were slightly jaggy on the angle. Nothing to complain about mind you, just a 'huh that's interesting' and a check of my bitrate settings in Youtube. I just figured one of the encoding steps along the way had done it.
James French
2025-02-12 03:19:46 +0000 UTCLooked a bit like 4k scaled down to 1080p via nearest neighbor algorithm.
Andreas Vinnberg
2025-02-11 10:16:16 +0000 UTCI absolutely had some aliasing on the tormek video (on youtube 1080p "enhanced bitrate" - enough that I actually went looking for comments about it before finding this thread. It looked like old interlaced video or something. I'm always curious about people's production pipelines
Steven S O'Connor
2025-02-10 21:06:06 +0000 UTCThanks all. I think I turn too many knobs at the same time. For context (if it helps?) I film 1080/24. SOME shots where I know I want a good zoom i'll film 4k/24. That lets me 2x zoom and still be 1080 (I think). I'm thinking maybe the mixed 1080/4k timeline is what's doing it. I used to just switch to a macro lens, lol. On top of that, after export, I run it through Handbrake. So I'm not uploading 8GB videos. I think my settings match my source. The only thing I notice on the YT side is sometimes it lists it at 24 fps, sometimes 25, sometimes 30. I might have to take a few thou off my SD cards on the surface grinder?
This Old Tony
2025-02-10 16:01:24 +0000 UTCWatched it on 100" 4K projector with 1080P premium selected. I have to say you got good looking fingerprints and knuckle hair. I wasn't looking for anything specific, so it was enjoyable. And I didn't catch any "artifacts "
Master Of None
2025-02-10 13:48:36 +0000 UTCI usually watch it on a normal PC-screen... I think any artifacts people see on bigger screens may come from interpretation (upscaling etc.) of the footage, done by the tv... But yeah, when watching closely I could also find some artefacts 1:58 for example... (pulsating edge) As far as I know, YT does it's own compression/conversion on top of every artefact you built in due to messing around with bitrate settings. When we render things out for our customer, who posts the stuff on YT etc. we use CBR (constant bit rate) at a fairly high number (30Mbit/s)... this ensures, that hardly any artefacts come from our side (as we include artificial grain etc. which gets destroyed by compression pretty fast) As you often have stop-trick kind of shots in your videos, compression that tries to spot the difference from one frame to another (vbr), may produce artifacts even more. Nevertheless, as an more or less "professional" I didn't spot any difference in quality at first watch, without you pointing it out. ;o)
Gabriel Wallinger
2025-02-10 11:28:53 +0000 UTCOn the tormek video shots that showed the threads definitely had some weird artifacting that felt like some kind of sharpening pulsing in and out watching on a 65" 4k TCL
Victoria D
2025-02-10 05:16:38 +0000 UTCFor me, it looks like 720p being upscaled. Watching on a 1080p 42" sitting far too close, the jagged edges are very visible. Specifically the Tormek video. Xyla's tools looks good.
Alex Crouse
2025-02-09 20:09:02 +0000 UTCMy two cent observations... I can't get the Tormek in anything higher than HD, so I can't make a fair comparison between my 40" HD TV and my 27" 4K monitor, but I have compared other creators' videos side by side at native resolution for each of my screens. That said, it's clear that TVs have a lot of built-in image filtering turned on by default, so two same-size TVs from different manufacturers are going to display video very differently. In general, I've observed that TVs tend to have much higher contrast (making for a more 3D image), they have motion blurring that minimizes choppiness in some scenes, and more compressed colors which often make high tones look blown out and low tones compress into black. In my experience it's really tough to get a TV to look neutral like a monitor does, so the starting point is going to be much different when editing for TV, especially considering how different the factory settings are going to be across the TV industry.
Peter Argyropoulos
2025-02-09 19:32:57 +0000 UTCI'm watching on a 65" 4K, completely agree with you, and had a very similar experience.
ARohde
2025-02-09 19:30:04 +0000 UTCWatch on a 1080p LCD. Did you do something funny with the framerate on the spinning bit in the lathe? Seems like it was a cartoony 10fps while everything else was smooth. Kinda looked cool.
Jacob Ford
2025-02-09 18:30:12 +0000 UTCWatched the video on two tvs. A 65 inch Bravia (oled) and a 65 cheap (lcd) Onn. There are some differences, notably the contrast. Hands seem a little overexposed and some grains in the background on the cheap TV. Youtube premium on both tvs.
Gonzalo Brusella
2025-02-09 18:20:04 +0000 UTCWatched on 65ish 4k looked great. Noticed the gray in the beard.
John Dyal
2025-02-09 15:10:30 +0000 UTCIf you can, knock out some of the louder sounds. Ngl I can fall asleep to these videos in peace
Jeremy Malvich
2025-02-09 14:33:25 +0000 UTCWatched the Torkmek video on a 60β plasma on TY premium birate, didnβt notice any sort of difference compared to the other videos.
Berend Michielsen
2025-02-09 12:52:44 +0000 UTCCan confirm it was not quite right. Lots of βmosquitoβ noise frame to frame, and diagonal lines very jagged. Itβs almost as if it had been interlaced and then badly de-interlaced using a simple algorithm. Not something Iβve ever noticed on your videos before.
Steve Lupton
2025-02-09 09:25:59 +0000 UTCTo me it looks like some kind of sharpening filter was applied, and there are sharpening artifacts. I've seen that come from a setting on the camera. This especially makes the threads look weird, or diagonal lines with high contrast look jagged, like others have mentioned.
Benz and Chang
2025-02-09 05:24:52 +0000 UTCNo complaints on 4k display and youtube premium. A little disturbing seeing Xyla's hair folicles in the casting, though. π
Glenn Brown
2025-02-09 04:52:56 +0000 UTCCame dangerously close to a face reveal there, I even saw a chin hair. You should put a 90's tv black bar over it next time.
Josh B
2025-02-09 02:40:45 +0000 UTCWatching the last two videos, and comparing against the butt clamps video, with YT premium 1080p bitrate on a 55β LG OLED, via the Apple TV YouTube app: itβs all sharp, but maybe focus got off in a few places? But what I did notice is that when you cut in for closeups I can easily see the jagged edges of the lower resolution. And Iβm also seeing moire patterns in stuff like threads, so things are sharp (sharper than the 1080p resolution, but maybe that ends up not looking as good?
Aaron Wood
2025-02-09 00:58:23 +0000 UTCYep. Looks good. Nice and sharp. The hand closeups are near overexposed, especially with the chisels in view. Blacks are deep, but detailed (Tormach in focus, and black cases in the background have detail). Scratches on the work bench, grains on the grinding disks all look nice. I'd say it looks pretty well like a classic ToT joint. 55" Samsung at factory defaults.
Jey
2025-02-09 00:35:57 +0000 UTCStill trying to get over the raccoons flying airplanes bit. :) At subscribe.com. Quality looked good to me. I'll re-watch it look. Baby girl had a melt down right when your video dropped, so i was a bit distracted.
Benjamin Wagner
2025-02-09 00:31:08 +0000 UTCLooks sharp on 65 inches but I saw some jaggies on diagonal edges, and fast motions looked off. But that might just be because I was looking for it. I'll have to go watch all your old videos over again to double check
David K
2025-02-09 00:17:10 +0000 UTCI watch on a 27" 1440p monitor, so not big persey, but I did find there was a lot of moire in the Tormek video
Patrick Kennedy
2025-02-09 00:09:41 +0000 UTCI watch 99% of my YouTube on my 65β TV
Jessie Fenton
2025-02-08 23:39:32 +0000 UTCIt's a bit chunky as if it was shot either at lower resolution or in some weird interlaced mode. Still plenty enjoyable.
naorunaoru
2025-02-08 23:12:24 +0000 UTCIn teeny-weeny-eyestrain-o-vision
Brian Clark
2025-02-08 23:06:21 +0000 UTCYeah there was some really weird stuff going on. Specifically when you were turning the thread on that bar. Iβm on YouTube premium and I was watching it on the High Bit Rate setting.
Alexander de Hotot
2025-02-08 23:00:25 +0000 UTCOn an 86" LG 4K TV on the 1080p "Enhanced" bitrate stream, I noticed some issues on the threading sections and on the close-ups on the edges of the gasket scrapers. Felt a bit "chunky", if that makes sense.
Augustine Savoca
2025-02-08 22:32:04 +0000 UTCI just watched your latest two videos on my 4k 27" computer monitor. I didn't notice anything on the maker santa one, but on the Tormek one there were parts where some things were not as sharp. I also saw interesting video artifacts, specifically at edges of objects. Best example is the last 25 seconds of the video as you are doing your outro. The tormek adjustment nut, your 3D printed tool for rounded chisels, and the wedge on the hammer handle are shifting up and down on a consistent 3 - 4 times a second.
William Smith
2025-02-08 21:50:28 +0000 UTCI try to make sure to watch on the living room TV. Not a big screen by modern standards, though. Fourty-something inches, but HDR 4k, and I use Apple TV 4k, and YouTube Premium. Will report back status on the latest videos
Gerber
2025-02-08 21:17:51 +0000 UTCI always watch on my phone. π€
Arvid Haglund
2025-02-08 21:13:47 +0000 UTCI actually jumped back and checked the quality settings. It was the clip showing off the gasket scrapers, and some of the threads on wider shots looked funny. 65" using a Nvidia Shield Pro.
Matt E
2025-02-08 21:04:35 +0000 UTCYep, I do. 65" in the living room, so it's like hulk hands but less green.
Brian Fisher
2025-02-08 20:57:50 +0000 UTCAlways on big screen. Looked pretty good. The grease onto the fist had realistic lustre and shine, could almost feel the slippery stickiness. And the hyper-realistic trim nail in the toolbox just blew me away. Great flick mate π¦πΊ
Geoff Williams
2025-02-08 20:57:40 +0000 UTCI would have to unlock "high bitrate" via youtube premium - that's how you know you've made it - when youtube tanks your bitrate for those who don't pay!
Simple Electronics
2025-02-08 20:56:59 +0000 UTCI watch on a 55inch Full HD (1080p) and the two videos you posted on YT today do not appear to be different to me than your videos from a year ago (I do commercial video)
Bernard Doyle
2025-02-08 20:54:31 +0000 UTCBig screen? What am I, a Rockefeller?
MuchMoreThanDoug
2025-02-08 20:53:00 +0000 UTCYep, I watch from my living room tv (specifically the youtube app on a 4k apple tv hooked up to an LG 65" 4k OLED, if the tech setup is of any value). No quality issues popped out at me in the "Handsome" video. I'm about 4min into the Tormek vid. now and only one thing stuck out to me so far... at time 1:58, the digital-zoom in on the scraper edges has a pretty noticeable horizontal artifact. Almost looks like transcoded interlacing. Maybe it's normal for digital zoom on 1080p videos, haven't tried comparing anything else to check. Edit: I have yt premium, and have confirmed I'm watching with the "1080p Enhanced Bitrate (Premium)" setting. Edit2: Yeah, the quality is worse than normal. The horizontal "bad interlacing-like" artifact is noticeable without digital zoom. The zoom at 1:58 just makes it much larger, almost like it was present prior to render (e.g. not caused by the final render). It's easiest to notice on high-contrast angled edges (such as the thin shiny toolholder edges against the darker bench at 5:33).
Joel
2025-02-08 20:50:08 +0000 UTCAlso: holy shit two videos in one evening?!
Yannic Meyer
2025-02-08 20:26:31 +0000 UTCyeah, YouTube gifted me premium through there content creator program, and it is better but not worth spending the $ on imo
Gearomatic
2025-02-08 20:26:08 +0000 UTCYouTube can deliver 4K or even 8K, more than the 1080P this Xyla present video has. (Patreon limits to 1080 so I'll watch Kurtis at CEE work his magic on YT as long as Karen drops them there too)
Gregor Shapiro
2025-02-08 20:24:50 +0000 UTCPart of the issue is that Youtube locks the "high bitrate" verson behind premium. Common trick to get better encoding on Youtube is to upsvale your video to 4k and upload it, and they allocate more bits to the video. Easy to do with FFMPEG if you cant export that way in your video editor
Gearomatic
2025-02-08 20:22:32 +0000 UTCYes. Most of the time, wife and I watch videos like yours on the 4K TV together. I'm a nerd - she's an engineer (aka nerd)
MJ Linde
2025-02-08 20:22:23 +0000 UTCIβm always watching your videos on my tv. 55β
Robert C
2025-02-08 20:21:37 +0000 UTCI am on a 38in 2K IPS curved display, looks great! Was actually gonna request a 21:10 aspect π haha Edit: some of the machining clips aren't the best, and weren't the prettiest. But the rest of the video was crisp clear on my monitor.
Matt Govero
2025-02-08 20:20:15 +0000 UTCI only watch your stuff on my 55β OLED and yes, it doesnβt look as awesome as normal, but I thought that it was just my old eyes.
Kate Gerry
2025-02-08 20:19:56 +0000 UTCDepends on your Definition of big screen but the Video on xylas Hand Tools Looks fine to me on My 42 in TV (through Linux).
Yannic Meyer
2025-02-08 20:19:54 +0000 UTC
