Did something happen to Mary that we didn't see? Because normally, it seems like she would take pleasure in having this sort of conversation with someone, but even here, she looks like she's uncomfortable.
Giant Speck
2024-08-17 18:07:33 +0000 UTC
I don't think Mary is any breed of feminist.
electric_claire
2024-08-17 17:27:40 +0000 UTC
Of course Mary is a TERF
Sarah
2024-08-17 16:28:15 +0000 UTC
I don't think this one has anything to do with transphobia specifically. I mean yes, Mary would call Carla a "lying man," but this is more about her belief that almost every guy is a simmering cauldron of rapey lust out to degrade girls and women and leave them sobbing and ruined. I do have to wonder what she knows about Joyce's history with Ryan--I don't think we ever saw her being told about it. Did Roz say something in an unguarded moment?
T Campbell
2024-08-17 10:52:55 +0000 UTC
Are things not going well with Peter lately? I kinda get the vibe that things aren't going well with Peter lately.
"Female space" is an interesting phrase from Mary, one I don't think she would've picked up without a semester-and-change of college behind her. "Fornication video" is more like the language I'd expect from her.
T Campbell
2024-08-17 10:39:25 +0000 UTC
There's a lot of overlap, or at least allyship, between TERFs and Christian extremists. Which is wild when the TERFs claim to be all about protecting cis women, then go align themselves with a group that wants to strip those women of their right to bodily autonomy.
Anna K
2024-08-17 08:50:29 +0000 UTC
One might be dead, which I admit is a fairly decent reason to not consider him a possible evil influence.
Simon Magid
2024-08-17 08:06:49 +0000 UTC
It is not quite the same thing. Joyce was lying to Mary out of fear and to protect herself, two reasons that happily do not apply to Joe.
Simon Magid
2024-08-17 08:05:57 +0000 UTC
This one was painful to read. I'm glad Joyce has a healthy dose of skepticism toward everything that Mary says. Mary is trying to be sneaky and plant her transphobia indirectly enough that it's supposed to feel like a bunch of logical inferences by the time she gets to her dramatic conclusion, or something. Joyce doesn't understand what Mary's trying to do, but at least she is correctly guessing that Mary's up to no good.
Lisa
2024-08-17 08:02:57 +0000 UTC
Joyce: “Joe, lying for social reasons is wrong!”
::immediately lies about not knowing about the Joe-Roz video for social reasons::
And the untruths are of a slightly different degree, Joyce’s was more direct.
Shane Wegner
2024-08-17 06:13:33 +0000 UTC
I feel like something is going on with mary this seems more like something a terf would say not a christian extremist I wonder if she broke up with her boyfriend.
Private me
2024-08-17 05:49:42 +0000 UTC
Well this should surprise absolutely nobody about Mary.
And Joyce, sweetie, it's technically TWO evil Grandpas, but one of those shoes hasn't dropped yet
BBCC
2024-08-17 05:32:51 +0000 UTC
I don't actually get what you mean, could you clarify a bit?
Jeremy AR
2024-08-17 04:48:43 +0000 UTC
Mary is jealous Carla can do eye shadow better than her
Gale Tazzin
2024-08-17 04:16:03 +0000 UTC
How long has it been since Mary was *objectively* wrong about something, instead of just wildly ridiculous in interpretation? This is the first I remember in awhile.
MiqoRems
2024-08-17 04:10:56 +0000 UTC
So we going to get a spicy pic of Joyce watching the video on laundry night lol?